@illeistheshizzle yeah its perun and dates back further than viking paganism much further. its caucasia where white people evolved caucasis mountain people the oaks. tough woriors oak tree is a sybol of perun. there were no people in northern europe at this time. so northern europe paganism has been influenced by them. its logical to me
This has nothing to do with Perun, nor with Slavic mythology or paganism. And it also has nothing to do with norse paganism. This is satanism what you are doing.
Russians never can find themself. This fucking comunism destroyed them. They use slavic swastika but believe that being nazi is slavic. Now they think being slavic pagan means playing satanic metal. Dumb! I like Russinas but not every shit that comes from your ass. This is true slavic: watch?v=IcWREXFvAFM
@G6600 Actually it's not! That's influenced by Turkish music a lot. Go listen to Vedan Kolod, or any song from Zobena Dziesma album by Skyforger. That's real Slavic music! Check out Tuman Yarom song by Arkona. It's a great cover of an old Ukranian song. When it comes to the pure old Slavic music in Serbia, there are only some songs performed by Pavle Aksentijevic and his band Zapis, as far as I know.
P.S. Писао сам на енглеском да би и остали разумели о чему говорим...
@stefannikolicns Actually not. That what you think that is slavic is actually orthodoy respectively greek melos.
The whole national dances of Westslavs and possibly Ukrainians is influenced by gypsy dance čardaš. Slavs didnt use many instruments but rather voices.
Frula is romanian word and romanian = balcanic instrument. The only instrument slavs had is gusle. It is actualy the only common slavic word for an instrument. But group vocal singing is slavic, like singing while dancing kolo.
@G6600 Incorrect, but I won't be starting yet another conversation with a person of mixed of Slavic and non-slavic probably either Greek or Albanian descent.
@G6600 1) I just responded to your comment, you started the converstion...
2) I am Proud to be German
3) Well i'm sorry to hear that, but the German soldiers shouldn't be blamed and don't blame Hitler for those 22 million, that Georgian cunt Stalin should be blamed for those deaths.
4) Possibly, even results of genetic test's proved that serbians and other slavic nation are not really that related to Poles and Russians, genetically serbians are very close to Romanians.
1) If you didnt wanna start the conversation, you woulda kept yourself out. But you didnt!
2) Kein Problem Junge, keiner verbietet dir das!
3) I didnt blame Hitler. He is already dead. I blamed you for supporting those who killed so many people and braught such a shame over Germans.
4) You can keep having children with your sister and you'll stay clean :) besides what big factor are you, little Nazi, to may keep telling me who I am... I know one thing... I am not scheiß Nazi!
this is the same as..."Hey look..my tribe has been wearing shoes..haha ! This is my culture, you are all copying!" Its just stupid mate, just to say that russians were the firs to make idols, wear furs and that they had woodcarvers.
There is "Pagan Reign". I from Russia, I listen pagan-metall, I will tell to you that among Russian pagan-band nazi music is played only by 8 % NO MORE.
Some people confuse: if play heavy guitar music with voice "growl" such people automatically rank this group to the nazi, but on such logic, nazis become all pagan-metall, black-metall and trash groups.
I love Pagan Reign but what Paganism are they supposed to represent cus it feels like they are doing like ensiferum and using Norse paganism, but with russian influences. I know vikings from sweden had a great influence on the slavic culture, but if that is what they are trying to portray, can please someone tell me
Acctually the Norman (viking is a despective term) went from scandinavia to arabbia (if you watch the movie 13 warriors you'll find out) even they created the city of Novgorod
@Draqenfrost Viking was a profession.At home they were Danes, Swedes or Norse, looting on drakaar they were vikings.Novgorod existed long before the Varangian chieftain Rurik made it his capitol, it was used for centuries to trade with the Eastern Roman Empire.
@Draqenfrost the city of Novgorod has been mentioned in Russian, European and Byzantine chronicles prior to the invocation of the Vikings. Had been ruled by generations of Russian chieftains before Scandinavian Rurik came, the last one was Gostomysl, who, on his deathbed ordered envoys to be sent to the Vikings because there were no male heirs left to rule ( he lost 4 sons in battles), while his younger daughter Umila was married to Rurik, thats how the Vikings ended up in Russia
@illeistheshizzle norse paganism came from slavic paganism. when slavs have spread out through europe alot of different groups were created, such as vikings and celts. All white race has come from one origin which really does not matter what paganism this is. Pagans have same gods but name them differently and have some features different. Thor's hammer and Perun's axe: one god of thunder.
people worshipped thunder in many lands cause it was a very common occurence and even today when we know what it is- we still feel overawed at how loud and powerful it is. its only natural people would develop ideas about it being a god. just because zeus is the god of thunder in greek mythology doesn't mean that he's is the same as thor or perun.
"it is the same Deity he just received a different name among the Greek and just different folk stories we're attributed to him" replace 'Deity' with 'storm, lightning, thunder..anything' and you'll get back to my point. Which is what I'm saying basically...
NWOBHM2006 - yes I am aware of what you are trying to say
but your opinion unlikely mine is based on an atheistic view on the Gods denying their existence
so from here on this could only lead to the complicated discussion of religious reason and observation of the natural world which I haven't yet figured out completely myself
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Im more thinking that Perun and Odin are the same(almost) and Zeus is very different than them...yes they are gods of thunder and everything, but...Zeus had to be always on top,always the best, when on the other hand Odin and Perun were not like that...and im not insulting Perun goddamit you know were im from...my ancestors worshipped Perun so dont come to me and talk shit...
lol, Odin isnt god of thunder.. THOR is god of thnder.. Odin is like Zeus, because hes the king of gods... BTW you may like Concubia nocte - Sekerou Perúna, Kladivom Thóra ;) [By The Axe Of Perun And Hammer Of Thor]
Asatro (Asa tro) in fact means "loyalty to Aesir" (the Nordic Gods lead by Odin). Slavs have rodnoverje/rodzima wiara (native faith), which is a different religion and set of beliefs. Of course, there are similiarities (as between all Indo-European religions and, to lesser extent, between all polytheistic systems) as well as differences.
gle, pretpostavljam da si srbin, i neam nikakvih problema sa srbima, dapace i ja bi se spojimo, jer koji ce kurac svijetu 2500 raznih nacija i vojski, medutim ocigledno u ovom modernom svijetu to ocigledno ne ide bas tako, + vi nonstop sanjate o velikoj srbiji i da je trst jebote vas
PS nacijonalnosti su sranje, "mi hrvati!", "mi srbini!" sve skupa oba dvoje smo zapravo slaveni
I love this band because unlike Termnozer or Nokturnal Mortum or other pagan metal bands, they arent psychotic nazi's hell bent on killing everyone who isn't a direct descendant of hitler :P
not many pagan metal bands have national socialistic ideologies. Most of them are not political and usually IF somehow political they are Nationalistics... And yeas Slavic people supporitng hitler is damn stupid shit.
@illeistheshizzle yeah its perun and dates back further than viking paganism much further. its caucasia where white people evolved caucasis mountain people the oaks. tough woriors oak tree is a sybol of perun. there were no people in northern europe at this time. so northern europe paganism has been influenced by them. its logical to me
flossy26 3 months ago
Chwała Słowianskiemu narodowi Perun naszym Panem
marcin4612 9 months ago
man after 2:30 it just drives u crazy...kept on gettn goosebumps..
man tis fuckin beautiful \m/
surajjjjj88888 9 months ago
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surajjjjj88888 9 months ago
Perun was the main God of Slavians. I know that because I'm a Bulgarian and we are half Bulgars half Slavians. The god of the Bulgars was Tangra.
TheOwnagefan 10 months ago
@TheOwnagefan The name of Tangra is very similar to the ancient Hungarian God Tengri, that's why Bulgarians are turanians too.
crusadefor2009 6 months ago
Greetings from Serbia my Slavic brothers! Слава!!!
IroN3WolF 1 year ago 2
This has nothing to do with Perun, nor with Slavic mythology or paganism. And it also has nothing to do with norse paganism. This is satanism what you are doing.
Russians never can find themself. This fucking comunism destroyed them. They use slavic swastika but believe that being nazi is slavic. Now they think being slavic pagan means playing satanic metal. Dumb! I like Russinas but not every shit that comes from your ass. This is true slavic: watch?v=IcWREXFvAFM
G6600 1 year ago
@G6600 Actually it's not! That's influenced by Turkish music a lot. Go listen to Vedan Kolod, or any song from Zobena Dziesma album by Skyforger. That's real Slavic music! Check out Tuman Yarom song by Arkona. It's a great cover of an old Ukranian song. When it comes to the pure old Slavic music in Serbia, there are only some songs performed by Pavle Aksentijevic and his band Zapis, as far as I know.
P.S. Писао сам на енглеском да би и остали разумели о чему говорим...
Поздрав из Новог Сада!
stefannikolicns 1 year ago
@stefannikolicns Actually not. That what you think that is slavic is actually orthodoy respectively greek melos.
The whole national dances of Westslavs and possibly Ukrainians is influenced by gypsy dance čardaš. Slavs didnt use many instruments but rather voices.
Frula is romanian word and romanian = balcanic instrument. The only instrument slavs had is gusle. It is actualy the only common slavic word for an instrument. But group vocal singing is slavic, like singing while dancing kolo.
G6600 1 year ago
@G6600 Incorrect, but I won't be starting yet another conversation with a person of mixed of Slavic and non-slavic probably either Greek or Albanian descent.
WodzuUK 1 year ago
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G6600 1 year ago
@WodzuUK Sir, you dont wanna start conversation with a person of mixed slavic descent? Answer pls:
1) Haven't you already started conversation by writing me anything.
2) Arent you "pround of your 50% German" like you wrote on your page. + you are a Nazi and you listed only Hitlers citates on your page.
3) Nazis killed over 150 members of my family from my village and killed over 25 millions of Slavs.
4) I am Serbian and you telling me, I were mixed with Albanians?
Just dont write me anymore!
G6600 1 year ago
@G6600 1) I just responded to your comment, you started the converstion...
2) I am Proud to be German
3) Well i'm sorry to hear that, but the German soldiers shouldn't be blamed and don't blame Hitler for those 22 million, that Georgian cunt Stalin should be blamed for those deaths.
4) Possibly, even results of genetic test's proved that serbians and other slavic nation are not really that related to Poles and Russians, genetically serbians are very close to Romanians.
WodzuUK 1 year ago
@WodzuUK
1) If you didnt wanna start the conversation, you woulda kept yourself out. But you didnt!
2) Kein Problem Junge, keiner verbietet dir das!
3) I didnt blame Hitler. He is already dead. I blamed you for supporting those who killed so many people and braught such a shame over Germans.
4) You can keep having children with your sister and you'll stay clean :) besides what big factor are you, little Nazi, to may keep telling me who I am... I know one thing... I am not scheiß Nazi!
G6600 1 year ago
Paganism never sounded so good! n_n
BlizzardMoonDragon 1 year ago
Slava všem slovanům. Pozdrav z Čech
Moodinek 1 year ago
Slava Perun!
Pozdrav iz Hrvatske,braćo Slaveni!
necrophyl6 1 year ago
Sława Słowiańskiej Krwi
Slava Slaws Blood
WojSwaroga 1 year ago
GLORY RUSSIANS!
mosnsp 1 year ago
Perunov znak, pozdrav iz Hrvatske.
Yugoslaviarock 1 year ago 4
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VendPrekmurec 1 year ago 3
Slava rodu!
SprskiFront 1 year ago 5
Slava moja slovenska braco
Sholmi13 2 years ago 6
good song, checking out summoning btw =>
AngelOfDeath1897 2 years ago 9
Chech the hungarian band Dalriada.
KoRnos666 2 years ago 7
they are really good
Petrichorus 2 years ago
@Petrichorus true
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Russianitro 2 years ago
this is the same as..."Hey look..my tribe has been wearing shoes..haha ! This is my culture, you are all copying!" Its just stupid mate, just to say that russians were the firs to make idols, wear furs and that they had woodcarvers.
BarabaChaos93 2 years ago
There is "Pagan Reign". I from Russia, I listen pagan-metall, I will tell to you that among Russian pagan-band nazi music is played only by 8 % NO MORE.
Some people confuse: if play heavy guitar music with voice "growl" such people automatically rank this group to the nazi, but on such logic, nazis become all pagan-metall, black-metall and trash groups.
Russianitro 2 years ago 5
I wish more ppl realized that.
mroubison 2 years ago 4
SLAWA PERUNOWI
ignar14 2 years ago 3
heil PERUN , SVAROG & PAGAN REIGN !!!!
lokipagano 2 years ago 3
I love Pagan Reign but what Paganism are they supposed to represent cus it feels like they are doing like ensiferum and using Norse paganism, but with russian influences. I know vikings from sweden had a great influence on the slavic culture, but if that is what they are trying to portray, can please someone tell me
illeistheshizzle 2 years ago
they sing about slavic paganism. slavic and norse paganism is very similar. it's all in the same corner of the world.
Petrichorus 2 years ago 5
That's true, it's just fascinating how similar they are. And since I don't know russian I was very curious. Thank you!
I do know some slavic paganism, and my favourite character it think was called Vodjanoj, a water spirit
illeistheshizzle 2 years ago 2
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VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
@VendPrekmurec i agree. it is all the same.
Petrichorus 1 year ago
@Petrichorus All European pagan faiths have similarities.
BytheBeardofYmir 5 months ago 2
@BytheBeardofYmir absolutely!
Petrichorus 4 months ago
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yugster78 1 month ago
@illeistheshizzle
Acctually the Norman (viking is a despective term) went from scandinavia to arabbia (if you watch the movie 13 warriors you'll find out) even they created the city of Novgorod
Draqenfrost 1 year ago
@Draqenfrost Viking was a profession.At home they were Danes, Swedes or Norse, looting on drakaar they were vikings.Novgorod existed long before the Varangian chieftain Rurik made it his capitol, it was used for centuries to trade with the Eastern Roman Empire.
joakeimmcgrath 1 year ago 5
@Draqenfrost the city of Novgorod has been mentioned in Russian, European and Byzantine chronicles prior to the invocation of the Vikings. Had been ruled by generations of Russian chieftains before Scandinavian Rurik came, the last one was Gostomysl, who, on his deathbed ordered envoys to be sent to the Vikings because there were no male heirs left to rule ( he lost 4 sons in battles), while his younger daughter Umila was married to Rurik, thats how the Vikings ended up in Russia
RussianKostya 1 year ago
@illeistheshizzle norse paganism came from slavic paganism. when slavs have spread out through europe alot of different groups were created, such as vikings and celts. All white race has come from one origin which really does not matter what paganism this is. Pagans have same gods but name them differently and have some features different. Thor's hammer and Perun's axe: one god of thunder.
ukrainianpagan 1 year ago
@illeistheshizzle should have just googled "Perun" to get your answer.
BytheBeardofYmir 5 months ago
Check out,,,Horn-The Fading Landscapes Glory.
triumphelf 2 years ago
Hail!!! Support the Pagan clearness!!!!
WinterVine 2 years ago 3
My understanding is that Perum is similar to Thor....
whitewarrior1964 2 years ago
Just on the first look...
boolet7375 2 years ago
Yeah they just share the thunder but protoslavic religion is quite different.
Universe593 2 years ago
or similar to zeus...
atsalos25 2 years ago
zeus is a pussy...
bloodharlekin 2 years ago 3
Perun Zeus Hadad (Baal) Thor Set
they all are the same Deity
its just that this Deity was known under different names in different lands and among different peoples and cultures
Gjallarhorn7 2 years ago
people worshipped thunder in many lands cause it was a very common occurence and even today when we know what it is- we still feel overawed at how loud and powerful it is. its only natural people would develop ideas about it being a god. just because zeus is the god of thunder in greek mythology doesn't mean that he's is the same as thor or perun.
NWOBHM2006 2 years ago
NWOBHM2006 - you don't sound to me like a polytheist
if you indeed aren't a polytheist I wonder what do you do watching this video anyway (no insult intended of course)
and btw - Perun is more of a storm God rather then a thunder God
Perun is not thunder itself but rather thunder is simply a manifestation or embodiment of Perun in this world
Perun is the same as Zeus
it is the same Deity he just received a different name among the Greek and just different folk stories we're attributed to him
Gjallarhorn7 2 years ago
"it is the same Deity he just received a different name among the Greek and just different folk stories we're attributed to him" replace 'Deity' with 'storm, lightning, thunder..anything' and you'll get back to my point. Which is what I'm saying basically...
NWOBHM2006 2 years ago
NWOBHM2006 - yes I am aware of what you are trying to say
but your opinion unlikely mine is based on an atheistic view on the Gods denying their existence
so from here on this could only lead to the complicated discussion of religious reason and observation of the natural world which I haven't yet figured out completely myself
Gjallarhorn7 2 years ago
alright
NWOBHM2006 2 years ago
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bloodharlekin - sorry for braking it for you but insulting Zeus you insult Perun
Zeus is the same God as Perun but just under a different name
if Michele Jackson changes his name to Sam Jackson that surely doesn't make him a different person
it just gives him a different name
you can't come anywhere by dishonoring the Divine
you just bring damage to your soul this way
nothing good comes out of it
if you want to insult somebody
insult jesus instead! not Perun!
Gjallarhorn7 2 years ago
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Im more thinking that Perun and Odin are the same(almost) and Zeus is very different than them...yes they are gods of thunder and everything, but...Zeus had to be always on top,always the best, when on the other hand Odin and Perun were not like that...and im not insulting Perun goddamit you know were im from...my ancestors worshipped Perun so dont come to me and talk shit...
P.S. I insult jesus every day... XD
bloodharlekin 2 years ago
lol, Odin isnt god of thunder.. THOR is god of thnder.. Odin is like Zeus, because hes the king of gods... BTW you may like Concubia nocte - Sekerou Perúna, Kladivom Thóra ;) [By The Axe Of Perun And Hammer Of Thor]
tatranista 2 years ago 2
btw Vikings actually copy the slavic pagan religion and add few new legends and few new gods ... they are almost the same in rituals ;)
metaldomen 2 years ago 3
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BarabaChaos93 2 years ago
¡¡¡Epic song!!!
Greetings from Argentina pagan Slavs
Long live the Kingdom of Perun!
FolkmetalerO 2 years ago 5
Slava to Pagad warriors.....From Poland!!!!!!!
forlorn1981 2 years ago 3
Pagan Reign is one of the few bands who sing about Slavonic pride, but don't support National Socialism in their lyrics.
FOCKING NS!!!!
FolkmetalerO 2 years ago 5
Slavic* you mean , Slavonic is refered to Eastern Croatia xD "Slavonia" i live there so i know
ZliBuhr3k 2 years ago
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slava perunu!!!! fuck thor and odin !!!!!
satyr666ns 2 years ago
Why such spiteful words to your Western cousins?
Svindsson 2 years ago 2
shut up you fool. you have no idea. satanismfaggot
MenschenfeindBZ 2 years ago 3
Slava to perun but if u dont know Odin is perun in Norse Mythologie ;) they copy it ;)
so SLAVA to Oden to ;)
metaldomen 2 years ago 4
Or we copied it :P
IlijaTun 2 years ago 2
dumb fuck every ancient nation had 1 supreme God!what"s to copy about it!?
brennner 2 years ago
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Universe593 2 years ago
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Gromovlad 2 years ago
and olso ROD and Dajdbog
ognemir88 2 years ago
he didnt help you in 1945, he got raped by slavic gods
dyucka 2 years ago 2
I'm living in Slovakia so I know a little about it....
Illidarnn 2 years ago
fuck you Illidarnn, if u don't know Slavic traditions etc. don't speak about it, u re just nerd, this culture is more than your fighters
hord50 2 years ago 2
Alexander Nevsky kick ass of tampliers knights on the ice of Lake Chudskoje in 1242!!!
Murder302 2 years ago 3
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Viking and Slavs-very different Thing...Slavs are gays they cant even fight they can just stole countries I hope they will burn in hell soon.
Illidarnn 2 years ago
Sława!
hord50 2 years ago 5
awesome band and song
Razorlives 3 years ago 4
Well, I hope the Slavs have better luck keeping their culture alive than the Nordics/Germanic, and Gaelics did. Blarg to immigrations eh.
NeoByzantineWay 3 years ago 5
Do the slavics still have Asatro?
Muffinz525 3 years ago
I thought that the Slavic people had their own Pagan religion. I believe the Germanic/Nordic people believed in a type of Asatru.
NeoByzantineWay 3 years ago
Oh okay. Thanks :).
Muffinz525 3 years ago
Asatro (Asa tro) in fact means "loyalty to Aesir" (the Nordic Gods lead by Odin). Slavs have rodnoverje/rodzima wiara (native faith), which is a different religion and set of beliefs. Of course, there are similiarities (as between all Indo-European religions and, to lesser extent, between all polytheistic systems) as well as differences.
OldWaysFollower 2 years ago 3
i feel like a viking
rawwwrrjoe 3 years ago
Slavic Viking LOL :D
5elin 3 years ago
POZDRAWIAM WSZYSTKICH SŁOWIAN! Niech żyje Perun! Sława dla was bracia!
Sława!
Slava!
Слава !
Vizharan93 3 years ago 20
@Vizharan93, All Slavic nations have to use Chirilic alphabet because it was alphabet made for the Slavs! So next time type just.....
СЛАВА!!!!!!!!!!
Blad771 1 year ago
SLAVIC PRIDE WORLD WIDE!
HenryV1415 3 years ago 4
Ne se izražat k nazi rajš rec
SLAVIC POWER !
5elin 3 years ago 2
I agree with acerb. The voice could be deeper.That would fit better together with the music.
I prefer deeper voices.
Tearsoftheworld 3 years ago
lucifire6669 has a point! that squeeky norwegian high pitched stuff is out! he needs a deeper voice !! like Amon Amarth!
acerb45666555 3 years ago
check out the project risen from the ashes of pagan reign. they have low vocals kinda. the band is tverd.
Petrichorus 3 years ago
yeah amon amarth rules ! cry of the blackbirds in particular but this is good to ! you should try heidevolk ! it's from my country :)
d1i2c3o4 3 years ago
The beginning is divine(like the rest of the song)
49935 3 years ago
i koji kurac se onda odvajat u 1500 granica
rogsvarog 3 years ago
SLAVA
49935 3 years ago 2
what the fuck is wrong with that voice!?!?! The song would sound awesome if it weren't for that voice
lucifire6669 3 years ago
harsh black metal styled vocals dude.
Petrichorus 3 years ago
neh, that is not the problem. black metal is fine, i just do not like this particular voice.
lucifire6669 3 years ago
I think the voice fits the song fine
this song is great, does anyone have lyrics?
kxnbx 3 years ago
all in russian. i have the album, but i dont think it has the lyrics in it. if i find some, i'll pm you.
Petrichorus 3 years ago
Great band can you hear that bass at the start (Y)
PaganPhoenix100 3 years ago 2
Yes, we were Yugoslavia too...
I think that southern slavic people should gather again, all of us.
6meta66 3 years ago
gle, pretpostavljam da si srbin, i neam nikakvih problema sa srbima, dapace i ja bi se spojimo, jer koji ce kurac svijetu 2500 raznih nacija i vojski, medutim ocigledno u ovom modernom svijetu to ocigledno ne ide bas tako, + vi nonstop sanjate o velikoj srbiji i da je trst jebote vas
PS nacijonalnosti su sranje, "mi hrvati!", "mi srbini!" sve skupa oba dvoje smo zapravo slaveni
rogsvarog 3 years ago
yes but fuck ns-political this is shit!!!!
NocturnalShadow666 3 years ago
Hail the pagan brethren!! May the fire never be strangled!!
6meta66 3 years ago 5
I love this band because unlike Termnozer or Nokturnal Mortum or other pagan metal bands, they arent psychotic nazi's hell bent on killing everyone who isn't a direct descendant of hitler :P
Kriati 3 years ago 3
Hmm I don't agree with National Socialism in Slavic countries - Hitler hated slavic people, so why would we support him?
6meta66 3 years ago 2
i don't agree with national socialism at all(for the most part).
Petrichorus 3 years ago
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I don't agree with it too...
6meta66 3 years ago
not many pagan metal bands have national socialistic ideologies. Most of them are not political and usually IF somehow political they are Nationalistics... And yeas Slavic people supporitng hitler is damn stupid shit.
ruuneberi 3 years ago 2
This is one of the best songs of that album
Necrophyte666 3 years ago 3
agreed!
Petrichorus 3 years ago