Theron to Davis: "You're Hot as Shit"

[shapolfab]

Clooney makes an interesting point (although i wish he would shut it a bit) however since he is also a Writer/Director when was the last time he hired a black actor/actress?? there is always a fair deal of hypocrisy when it come to movies and non white-actors. Latino, blacks, whatever...

[gevbrave]

Clooney is hilarious

[marbeque]

Everyone in that room is sort of oblivious to what she is saying, Charlize makes it a self-esteem issue, George makes it about business, and Tilda made it about women. No it's about race.

[DarkeningSkies1]

@marbeque Of course they are oblivious. They are white.

[nmasumy24]

Charliez is so oblivious, she needs to get a grip of reality, she soon will be 40 something and become the hollywood expendable. Beauty fades.

[TaylorJae17]

Viola Davis, thank you for being so candid. To the rest of you; only James Lipton wants to hear you blab that much.

[ChrChoi]

And where are the asian male leading roles? no one saying anything about that! at least there are parts and really good Black Actors out there to represent black people. But I agree with them . "the audience wont get this. Beacuse viewers are stupid" " the audience are not ready to see this. How the fuck would you know. You arrogant prick" Michael is so great!

[Kwanfu74]

@ChrChoi Or female for that matter. I was so looking forward to seeing a live action Avatar the Last Airbender, not just because of how great the cartoon series was, but how great an opportunity it presented for Asian and Inuit actors. And they just made all the characters white.....pisses me off. Too often in a bid to westernize a film, they'll take an Asian film and give secondary roles to Asian actors, but always make the main character white. Sad.

[01imusic]

I've never had a problem with Clooney and I still don't really but in these videos he's like the kind of person you think about once you get in your car after a party with huge relief and think to yourself  'man that guy was an annoying prick.'

[ohcrap1989]

i don't see a problem of a person participating in a conversation if he or she has a point, and i do see clooney's point...so i don't have that much of a problem of him involving himself in the conversation...

[ridewave444]

Clooney doesn't know when to stop sometimes. Sometimes he's too damn cheesy and too damn smarmy.

[B10NICBURITO]

Why is Michael Fassbender in the "Oscar roundtable when he has not been nominated? 

[ScarecrowHuggins]

Why are people complaining about George Clooney talking? If I was in an interview situation, I'd answer the questions. Fucktards.

[B10NICBURITO]

@ScarecrowHuggins they all just want to hear fassbender talk.

[ETROLEz]

George clooney is just very down to earth, smart, sickk actor and a person..people dont get it , they want someone to sit there and pretend to just listen, hes being very natural and engages in the conversation which is the point of this sit

[Claire3124]

Interviewers*

[Claire3124]

Everybody cool the fuck down!! Honestly what is everybody's problem with the legend that is George Clooney?! Everyone making a massive deal out of him....answering.a.fucking.que­stion. I'm sorry but he does not deserve all this hate! The interviews asked a question which everyone at that table participated in! George has a very strong opinion big whoopee shit that he spoke about it! If the others were that bothered they could have interrupted him but clearly they agree with him and respect him!

[zbruce1]

I just love Tilda Swinton, so classy, unique and ridiculously talented.

[m0sthated80]

charlize has no clue what viola meant when she said she doesn look like halle. Viola was simply implying that the black actresses who are light get the juicy stuff like halle, rashida jones, and paula patton

[oddradish]

OK CLOONEY LET THE OTHERS TALK PLS.

[peachie0keen]

I really wanted Viola to keep talking....gah! I'm glad George understands, but let's hear from an actual minority pleasseeee

[fairground8888]

Clooney comes off as the biggest egoist PRICK in all these videos. He steals conversation, diverts all topics back to talking about himself, always ME ME ME.....so boring and tiring to watch. And no one in the group DARES to shut him down. I hope he loses in Oscar this year but I guess he will win.

[calaftheeast]

@fairground8888

I'm not his biggest fan, but really the person who posted these is the one to blame. These are very lengthy sit-downs and they only took the Cloney snippets and posted them on youtube as videos, as if nobody else sitting there mattered.

I bet they all talked and he did not poach the airtime. But it seems that way since these videos only focus on him.

[starry118]

@calaftheeast That's a good point...I wonder why they didn't post the interview in it's entirety.

[blacksandiamondust]

@mizzdiamonds, excellent analogy! well said.

[MizzDiamonds]

@blacksandiamondust thank you.amazing how people do not understand and let their adoration cloud their mind I mean how many time can a girl explain LOL

[TheTurnerBot]

Plummer was silent wow.....

[cernuros]

GEORGE CLOONEY SHUT THE F..K UP AND LET THE OTHER SPEAK!!!! I honestly wanted to hear Viola Davis' point of view!!!!!!!

[SondheimFanatic1]

@cernuros I WAS JUST THINKING THAT! You read my mind!

[peales1]

wow! these intereviews are great, i just realized these are real people.. ftw!

[Eddierangers1989]

You know what I took out of watching this video??

CHARLIZE THERON IS A BABE! Nothing else.

[BlueStar1990]

It's obvious Charlize's comments was not meant to be malicious, but the fact is she did trivialise what viola was saying. Regardless of whether or not Charlize thinks Viola is "hot as shit", she still is, as she says herself, a 46yo black women and Hollywood hardly ever puts African American women in lead roles, unless it's one that spins Whites as the ~saviour (case point: The Help). Clooney is being an arrogant prick as always and derailing the conversation.

[dw29376]

Seriously if you don't understand why that comment was inappropriate, you never will. I don't think Charlize was malicious, rather ignorant. While Clooney was just being himself, the center of attention, a story for everything, anything you've done, he's done it too...

[originalwharris]

Charllize was honestly being sweet, but she didn't get what Viola was saying. Viola was referring to how dark she is and how women who look like her don't get the romantic leads like someone who looks like Charlize. Halle Berry has enjoyed more success because she's light skinned (half white) and more closely resembles the Hollywood standard of beauty.

[MizzDiamonds]

@originalwharris Exactly when it comes to Black women in hollywood you have to have a certain look to be cast in a variety of different roles. Love interest, action woman etc and that look is usually light skinned, straight hair, keen features. It goes back to the days of Lena Horne to Dorothy Dandrige to Vanessa Williams to Halle Berry and now Zoe Saldana. But even Halle and Zoe have harder times getting lead roles often hearing "we were not looking to go Black with the role."

it was dismissive

[SyrenniaLestrange]

Amazing how people make a mountain out of a molehill. Charlize Theron's comment has been taken out of context & people revel in the supposed "controversy." More than 1/2 of the people complaining know good & damn well her remark wasn't intended to be inflammatory or meant to ignite fury among the "masses" who have nothing better to do with their time. And before anyone comes at me sideways with foolish rhetoric, I'm half black, half American Indian. I'm not taking sides, I'm using mother's wit!

[MizzDiamonds]

@SyrenniaLestrange No one is getting upset we are just pointing out how she was dismissive when she was trying to talk about an issue nobody called Charlize a racist or said anything bad about her look at all the comments nobody said anything like that, maybe you are getting a little defensive maybe?

[SyrenniaLestrange]

@MizzDiamonds : @MizzDiamonds : White America always accuses the black community of "playing the race card." It's more than a little bit disheartening to see so many taking insult to a comment that held no malice. The media makes it more than what it is, and it's just sad to see Ebony Magazine and other reputable sources taking exception. As for these comments, Dr. King said it best : "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."

[MizzDiamonds]

@SyrenniaLestrange Who is taking insult, once again we are saying she is being dismissive and derailing. Why is that so hard to understand? For example say if you were telling me you have trouble finding good products for your hair type to get it how you want and I said "You need to stop saying that you have such pretty hair." You didn't say your hair isn't pretty you said you had trouble finding decent products because of your hair type.

understand now?

[MsFloopdedoop]

Aw poor Christopher Plummer doesn't say a word :( If I were in there, he'd be the only one I'd talk to LOL

[Marllon]

Charlize does not know what she is talking about.  She needs to walk a day in Viola's shoes before uttering condescending remarks.

[SyrenniaLestrange]

@Marllon : She said "You're hot as shit." What, pray tell, is condescending about that?

[Marllon]

@SyrenniaLestrange You are misinterpreting what I mean. It's a dismissive compliment for her to say that right after Viola Davis is trying to explain the lack of roles for dark-skinned black women in Hollywood. She's basically belittling everything Viola is pointing out about the film market's attitude towards dark-skinned black women in leading roles.

[Marllon]

@BellaElsman You're taking my statement out of context. The reason why Charlize's comment was condescending was because she basically dismissed Viola's remarks as pessimistic self-sabotaging, which is not the reality. It was very belittling of her to compliment her in that fashion.

[OscarWinnerDjakarta]

The fact that these white actors are even asking such questions bothers me. They are so oblivious. It seems that only George Clooney is aware of this and willing to speak intelligently and openly about the subject. Take a look at films and count the number of black women you see cast in them. It's obvious there is still an undercurrent of racism prevalent in mainstream storytelling.

[starry118]

@OscarWinnerDjakarta Agreed...it amazes me how people can act so clueless. Regarding George, he was open about discussing an aspect of what Viola mentioned (women), but he clearly steered the conversation away from the issue of race, because he could tell some people were becoming uncomfortable.

[lanadaily]

Typical of Clooney to turn a reasonable discussion into another rant about himself.

[GatorGirl04]

George seems EXTRA thirsty this awards season. All of his pandering and schmoozing is expected but now it's maaaaaad annoying. It's like he's appointed himself the grand Marshall of all this Hollywood and folks just fall in line.

Charlize and George can have SEVERAL seats

Viola and Tilda are regal. Michael F is FANTASTIC and C. Plum is THAT dude.

[SyrenniaLestrange]

@GatorGirl04 : Yeah, and when Theron and Clooney take these seats, they can sit on their Oscars, Golden Globes, and countless other awards.

[GatorGirl04]

@SyrenniaLestrange It has nothing to do with awards. It has everything to do with Viola and black actresses in general being largely ignored and dismissed. As Charlize and George both so poignantly presented. The way Viola's point was interrupted and then dismissed rubbed folks the wrong way. Nothing wrong with stating that.

[Tigerlily21]

OMG one little compliment in reference to one part of Viola Davis' overall comment and people are jumping to the conclusion that Charlize Theron doesn't understand that black women struggle in hollywood or is completely naive to the plight of all black women. People are reading way too into it. Why make a bad thing out of a compliment? She wasn't trying to step all over the plight of black women.

[umichgal1]

Why the hell did they place Viola in a corner with dark clothes, so you can barely see her?

[dw29376]

I wish Theron and Clooney had of let her finish. I wanted to know what Viola would answer to

Michael's question. But of course King Clooney had to jump in.

[Rosannasfriend]

and why should we expect any white woman to already "get it"? Charlize doesn't share those struggles, so if that is indeed what Viola was trying to talk about, she could have just said "actually Charlize, what you're not understanding is..". Again, Viola had a chance to speak after that, and I believe she got to say what she wanted to say. If she didn't, that is not Theron's fault.

[Rosannasfriend]

the people here complaining were just assuming Viola was going to give some long lecture through which they can vicariously hear THEIR own frustrations vented out by her. This is a roundtable with lots of discussion on lots of topics, and YES, lots of interruptions. Anyone picking on Theron can just get over that.

[calaftheeast]

Hollywood is run by aging Jewish men who are in love with quintessentially European-looking women whom they call 'shiksa' I believe. Women liek Charlize Theron etc. It has been always like that since the Golden Age. Even Jewish-looking Jewish women do not get that far in the industry unless they can sing or something retarded like that, since they are never perceived as attractive.

It is an industry shaped and directed by white Jewish businessmen who are racist, ageist and sexist.

[calaftheeast]

Charlize Theron, as a 36 year old woman, actor and moviestar, should not use the term 'hot as shit' when she is referring to someone's looks, esp. a black person. She also came from a challenging background, but let's face it; her quintessential 'Versace girl' looks handed her a great career. Whereas Viola does not possess the same advantages - blond hair, white skin and beauty.

Theron attempts to sound endearing and cute, but comes off as dim and dismissive. I also think she was drunk here.

[Rosannasfriend]

@calaftheeast well, I do not think she comes off as dim or dismissive. I think too many black women are overreacting. And yes, I am black too.

[calaftheeast]

@Rosannasfriend

Hey, I agree!

Also not every single person (black or white) has to be a moviestar and not every black rapper-turned-actor should whine and bitch about the lack of opportunities and getting typecast as gangsters.

But Charlize does not come off as she is comprehending what she says. She came off very dim in all these videos. Btw, 'hot as shit'? Come on. It's so lewd and unseemly.

It's not like she was not fishing for compliments by saying she is not beautiful.

[Tigerlily21]

@calaftheeast Actually it was Charlize's talent which she showed in Monster that handed her her great career. Before that performance, her looks did not give her a great career and she was playing nothing parts in crap films. She had to prove herself. Sounds to me that you want to tilt this thing into something negative because you have something against Charlize's beauty. Somehow I think that if Tilda Swinton told Viola she was hot, no one would be making a big deal about this.

[BellaElsman]

@Tigerlily21 : THANK YOU. I don't even think the majority of these people know that Charlize is South African. Are we to call her a racist, then? With all of the charity work has done and continues to do for her country? Good God in Heaven!

[calaftheeast]

@BellaElsman

I never said she is racist. She just seemed dismissive. You can be born in Siberia and not be racist or you can be born in Namibia and be the most racist person in the planet. It is what it is... black, white etc. doesn't really matter.

What does her birthplace have to do with anything?

[starry118]

@BellaElsman Who called her a racist?

[starry118]

@calaftheeast I agree with most of what you said, except for the part about beauty. Viola does possess beauty, she just doesn't have European features, which is basically the point she was making in her responses.

[DeathlyMasquerade]

everyone's drinking coffee, Fassbender's got a drink

[amna04]

Charlize and George are dismissive of the truth and frankly very hurtful to Viola. George has even gone as far as to say how forward Hollywood is in term of race relations. A real arrogant prick.

[creativitybyjenna]

Viola Davis is so articulate and intelligent. She really is an inspiration to all aspiring actors coming from struggling backgrounds. I really admire her and the way in which she understands and 'becomes' her character in both her films and theatre productions. I mean, look at Doubt. She was superb. I really do hope she's awarded Best Actress. She's a formidable actress.

[yunerz]

3:03 Fassy goes HAM! Love it!

[nikkiolough]

Fassbender, Theron and Swinton all snubbed! And yet Jonah Hill and Melissa Mc Carthy get nominated.... What a joke!

[axreason]

@nikkiolough yes, the oscars nominations this year are ridiculous.

[TimbucktwofilmsRoman]

@nikkiolough Jonah Hill deserved his nomination..and his nomination has no effect on Fassbender as they are two different categories...but Jonah Hill was wonderful in Moneyball..along with Brad Pitt..both gave great subtle performances

[calaftheeast]

@nikkiolough

I know. McCarty is nominated for what reason exactly? That she farted on screen and did an even more retarded Zach Gali-whatever impersonation on one of the most horrendous films of the year?

What a joke.

[aniekh100]

@nikkiolough agreed

[TransmissionFilms]

@nikkiolough I don't think that counts because their all supporting and were getting buzz since last year when their movies came out; Jonah before his movie came out.

[spxeli]

@nikkiolough That doesn't make any sense. Jonah Hill and McCarthy are for supporting. All of the actors you mentioned would of been leads. Also, have you seen the movies?

[ellematic]

Oh George, I love you but you really need to learn how to take a back seat sometimes.

[whenhecallsmekitten]

This is a great roundtable!

[ladybruin12]

So ummm...Love michael!!! And Viola does make a point, however, its not only BLACK woman it is any minorty groupd. You don't see people standing in line to give Latinos the leading role that doesn't involve them being a Gangster or some stereotypical character!

[tifo316]

@ladybruin12 But she's not Latina, so she's speaking in her experience.

[starry118]

@ladybruin12 However, the questions that they asked Viola were about her, specifically. In answering those questions, she mentioned being the Black race and being a Black woman because that's how she is identified.

[ladybruin12]

@starry118 Ya I know, im just saying cause in an interview with, i believe it was salma hayek, they asked her basically the same question and specifying it to her a latina but she mentioned all minorty groups, including black race. Anyways im not tryin to make this an argument It was just something i found curious, but i do get your point

[starry118]

@ladybruin12 The question was posed specifically to her as an individual, so her response reflected that and was completely appropriate. Also, since she was cut off, we don't know all of what she may have said, had she been allowed to finish her thought. Perhaps she would have incorporated other races in the discussion. However, the little that she did say was enough to make others uncomfortable, hence, the derailing of the conversation as it pertained to race, which is unfortunate.

[fourgee0]

@jessie1793 i love viola and she totally answered the question appropriately, but i think george might've just been easing the tension. everyone looked pretty uncomfortable

[stillhere0326]

i Love Michael Fassbender.  That's all .

[kiwiwold11]

Charlize Theron's fucking annoying!

[Tigerlily21]

@kiwiwold11 She's awesome and hilarious. Because she'sso beautiful people want to believe she's being a bitch when she is being fun and nice.

[Rosannasfriend]

@kiwiwold11 if you want to think so, we cannot stop you. :)

[Ghostb]

Viola warms the cockles of my heart.

[turquoiZe]

they keep talking about the industry and how it has changed or not changed over the years while Christoper fucking Plummer is sitting RIGHT THERE. how about asking him or letting him speak instead of trying to piece together a narrative about Hollywood from impressions you have of how it was when you were still working in a department store?

[Ghostb]

@turquoiZe because he represents one experience from one perspective of hollywood.

[turquoiZe]

@Ghostb of course. i'm not saying his word should be gospel; I'm just saying it might make sense to turn around and ask him at that point and I'm surprised no one thought to.

[crimsonlakes]

Viola and Tilda were very articulate, although Tilda didn't talk that much. I got the impression the reason she responded little because she knew that George just wanted to boost his ego more.

[crimsonlakes]

George needs to stop talking and interrupting people. I wanted Viola to finish making her point and George is always making generalities about Hollywood. His pretentiousness was too much at the table. At least Michael asked Viola her opinion on why there aren't many women of color in Hollywood and seemed genuinely curious.

[Rosannasfriend]

@crimsonlakes yeah, George is the attention seeker to me. There is not one video here where he isn't cutting in to make a joke and be the "star" of the moment.

[jessie1793]

@crimsonlakes

I know right. George needs to simmer down. He changed the direction of the conversation. We need to discuss why it seems like the only way to get an Oscar nomination and be black woman is be a maid/slave/mammy/or some other stereotype. I think Viola said she was the only one who hasn't had a love scene and she's been in the game for some time now.

[dw29376]

@jessie1793 Exactly!

[MizzDiamonds]

@jessie1793 Exactly the first Black woman to win an oscar was Hattie McDaniels for playing Mammy and now if Viola wins she is winning for playing mammy. Funny how things change but also stay the same

[larafied]

i take it that the full video won't be posted?

[blavia77]

Newsweek should upload videos this long where you get to hear the actors have a long discussion instead of the 1 minute segments.

[RavenStillBeguiling]

I don't understand why Viola's point went completely over Charlize's head. Her comment about her being hot was just so condescending. And why exactly did George completely derail the conversation from what could have been, FINALLY, a discussion within hollywood about why minorities do not get lead roles.

[luckstruck]

@RavenStillBeguiling you'll notice in the rest of this round table that Charlize kinda fucks up everyone's point, she interrupts too much, and i don't think anyone in her life tells her to ever stop because she's beautiful

[Bananabear20]

@luckstruck no Charlize is awesome- funny, gregarious, outgoing. And no she didnt fuck up anybodys point- everyone there was just kinda mucking about . Charlize was just trying to pay Viola compliment- they have been friends for a while.

[Rosannasfriend]

@Bananabear20 agreed. I've noticed many want to call her a bitch, so lets not stop their fun.

[Rosannasfriend]

@Bananabear20 and at the Golden Globes there was a BEAUTIFUL photo of the two of them sitting and smiling together.

[Rosannasfriend]

@luckstruck I didn't see her interrupt Clooney's point in the other video, but I'll check out the others.

[Bananabear20]

@RavenStillBeguiling i think you are way too sensitive. and check out the roundtable with charlize and viola earlier this year. they are friends. she was just trying to be pay her a compliment.

[RavenStillBeguiling]

@Bananabear20 But Viola wasn't there talking about how ugly she is and that's why she has trouble getting roles. She was citing her age and race as the reason. Charlize's comment not only had nothing to do with what was being discussed but it felt condescending and dismissive, whether she intended it that way or not. Or maybe it did go over her head but i assume she's smarter than that.

[Rosannasfriend]

@RavenStillBeguiling she was trying to be nice, and perhaps didn't completely understand the point being made. Anyway, they were all talking over each other and kidding around, so I wouldn't take it so seriously, Viola wasn't mad.

[Rosannasfriend]

@RavenStillBeguiling actually, if you listen she said she isn't as good looking as Halle Berry. THAT is what Charlize was responding to.

[jessie1793]

@RavenStillBeguiling

I know. She is talking about race. Viola knows she is fly. Michael, my love, being African American and trying to succeed in entertainment is still hard.

[Bananabear20]

@RavenStillBeguiling did you see Charlize say anything after that? no she let viola talk. She was just paying her a compliment. chill the fuck out.

[Rosannasfriend]

@RavenStillBeguiling actually, when she mentioned Halle Berry, we do not know whether she was talking about how dark she is compared to her or the fact that Halle can get more roles because she is "prettier" than Viola. I, like, Charlize took it to be the latter. If it was not so, Viola had a chance to continue explaining herself, and if she didn't that is not Charlize's fault. To me, Viola was not offended and got to say what she wanted.

[starry118]

@Rosannasfriend Further explanation wasn't needed. Anyone with a basic level of intelligence regarding Hollywood and race relations (in the US, Western society, and many parts of the world) understood what she was saying.

[turquoiZe]

@RavenStillBeguiling exactly. did you see that directors roundtable video when Steve McQueen talked about the same exact point asking the directors there why the movie landscapes did not reflect the diversity of cities where the movies were taking place and no one could say anything! whenever it comes up big names in the industry steer the convo away because they are complicit in that set-up and it's dangerous for them to talk about since they cannot deliver on these issues.

[dw29376]

@turquoiZe I saw that roundtable, there was complete silence. They sat there with their fingers up there asses, while Steve kicked ass and took names!

[Tigerlily21]

@RavenStillBeguiling Why diss Charlize when it's obvious she meant well and was trying to compliment Viola? Sure it missed the overall point Viola was making, but Charlize was commenting on that part of it where she was comparing her looks to Halle Berry. Charlize was being nice. Stop that hate.

[BellaElsman]

@RavenStillBeguiling : There wasn't anything condescending about that comment. Females say that all the time to one another. People are blowing her intended compliment (Viola RECOGNIZED it as a COMPLIMENT) out of proportion and the foolish public are subscribing to the projected notion of "HATE" where there IS none. Come to think of it, that question should've never been asked. This is a time to celebrate credit given, not stir up ill-feelings, theories, etc.

[TheMichboa]

@BellaElsman, I have no doubt that Charlize had good intentions but the point is she misconstrued the point viola was making which wasn't that she had self esteemed issue , but rather, Hollywood is not exactly banging down the doors of black actresses of a certain age, who do not look like the typical acceptable 'light skinned' black women.Discussions about race should be continued to be discussed. Sweeping them under the carpet doesn't make it go away. Viola even said Halle was struggling.

[natoplace]

@TheMichboa That's a very simple way to see it, though. Everyone has their own shortcomings and troubles but not everyone allows themselves to be weighed down by it. Somehow it's acceptable to much of modern society to allow people whose race is not white to pity themselves. When I succeed I don't think, "Wow, I succeeded despite having ADD and OCD." Because if I did think that way I'd never have the courage or the belief in myself needed to do what I want. Don't put limitations on yourself.

[TheMichboa]

@natoplace, With all due respect, that is also a very simplistic way of looking at it. I don't think viola pities herself. Far from it. She is just candidly explaining that she is discriminated against because of the way she looks. It is not about lacking self belief in actuality it is about believing you can play a role as as good as anyone else but not getting the opportunity because of racial discrimination. Racism is real and still remains a barrier whether or not you believe it.

[natoplace]

@TheMichboa I never meant to imply that there is no racism. I don't want to get in too deep, however. There is much racism in the world today regarding all races (white people are discriminated against too). All people are discriminated against for something. Many people have barriers, you can't conquer them if you waste energy resenting them. Of course I believe racism exists; I encounter it daily. I believe, though, that Viola should pick her battles more wisely.

[natoplace]

@natoplace You can't force change on people, you have to let them see it for themselves.

[starry118]

@BellaElsman No one said she was being hateful, just crass, condescending, and not very perceptive. I got the sense that she just didn't get the context of what Viola was saying.

[thecodewerks]

Their 'roundtable' is actually a triangle.