Bach Chromatische Fantasie und Fuge part1 バッハ半音階的幻想曲とフーガ

[AYAMEVIOLA87]

sugoi Atsuko-san desu yo! *_* O0O

[AGLMIL]

Extroordinary technic and exquisite soul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[30inventionman]

well she's got my heart and she has expressive talent. I run into a few on vids on utube who are very expressive in their playing, And I really like that in music, almost more than the written music. Well, almost.

[30inventionman]

what is her name though

[hiro009able]

@30inventionman PianistAtsukoSeta

[dhtmlkitchen]

With taste. I generally prefer harpsichord for baroque period keyboard music and for this piece, but I liked your interpretation. Dynamics and pedal with the arpeggios. Though the fortspinnung feel is missing. Well I'm just a listener, not a real musician, FWIW. But overall, cool stuff.

[fcouperin]

nice Chopin

[angietihi]

Where's the fugue?

[olipippocinque]

trop pianistique .Evviva le clavecin!!!

[Terrdemarzielle]

@wcbroccoli 6+ means "6 or more."

[Phil42x]

I know that you two are both personal friends of Herr Bach, but why don't you tell us what you think of the lady with the piano. Then you can both go out in the street.

[SidedPanic]

My german is beautiful and the idea that bach wrote chromatic fantaisa away from a keyboard is crazy. It's full of the plus and minuses of free improvisation and even the fugue has numerous post improvisation alterations that stand out completely from what has gone before.

[SidedPanic]

What's with all this research post fail research. Silbermann himself had it noted as 6 voice while he boasted about bach complementing the king's new piano. That swieten, frederick and silbermann - but if they're all wrong, even then big wow. We're still talking about this piece above, which an absolute written down improvisation.

[SidedPanic]

Utter gibberish, utter utter gibberish.

[SidedPanic]

For one example of many, there is a very well known event where bach played a six voice fugue for royality (Frederick the great of prussia) on one of Silbermann's earliest forte-pianos.

This is irrelevant though, i'm still confused as to what is and isn't improvisatory. If you are arguing that mwv 903 isn't then, I am just dumbfounded as to what is. Especially as improvisatory works isn't even just improvisation.

[SidedPanic]

Ah Forkel, my dear dear Johann. My copy of bachs leben, kunst und kunstwerke is here with me now and delightful it is for you to pick such a lovely quotation. All in all I couldn't have written this paragraph better myself. The next paragraph however is not so sweet.

The quote did in fact confirm all that is needed to support my argument that bwv 903's historical performance = clavichord. The fantasia is the complete definition of 'private musical entertainment', even more so than the suites.

[SidedPanic]

It is a very personal piece written for his late wife and was only circulated amongst family and a few set pupils.

As for your furthermore, I'd love for you to explain to me what 'improvisatory works' are when it comes to bach. St Matthews Passion might be a little too long and complex to be described as 'improvisatory' but almost all of his keyboard works are exactly that. He was famous for improvising 6+ voice fugues.

[SidedPanic]

Aside from all this nonesense of politically correct put downs and subtle sneers that have become infested within the conversation, I would like to bring it back to original intent of my first comment. I play lots of bach on the piano, this piece included. Of course it must all be treated like a transcription, as bach had no concept of a modern piano when he wrote his music - but it saddens me to hear people sneer intellectually at music making of any kind. Music engages souls, not just minds.

[SidedPanic]

There are significant amounts of biographical Primary Sources (ie. evidence) that note bach's (and nearly all the other bachs) preferral of the clavichord and use of it in the home. If you require it, I will be more than willing to provide you with quotations, page numbers, book titles and authors especially seen as I myself require such for your proposed bach's inventory list. A list gone unnoticed not just by myself but also many eminent bach scholars.

[SidedPanic]

I made significant mention of the fact that clavichords were only used in private spaces (because of their volume). Harpsichords were an absolute must for orchestral works (particularly keyboard concertos) & for performances in large spaces without the facility of an organ (which he liked) - but this provides no evidence that he would use them for pieces played in private.

Of course he may well of played a partita on the harpsichord, but it would have been composed & played on the clavichord.

[SidedPanic]

In reply to your second paragraph.. bach did in fact compose this (and an aweful lot else) with the clavichord in mind. As this piece, along with all the partitas, french/english suites, clavier toccatas and fantasias etc. were pieces that were composed for private spaces and never found there way into a public arena of any sort. The clavichord Was bach's instrument of choice in the home and in general (he only found harpsichords useful in orchestral work because of there volume).

[SidedPanic]

My comment was also sarcasm, but thanks for the outburst of intellectual arrogance nonetheless. I am actually fully aware that clavichords 'weren't used in concert halls' and have, in fact, played them numerous times - so I remain pretty sure as to what one is.

My original comment, which clearly needs interpreting for you, was to point out that the snobbery towards the performance of bach on piano is pointless because the historical instrument in question, isn't audible in modern concert halls.

[SidedPanic]

Yes, you're sarcasm is thoroughly justified. I think we should just place clavichords in all modern concert halls and ignore the irrelevant details of a piece of music's audibility. Bach's too sacred to be heard by the tainted ears of our modern world anyway!

[lucisli]

Martha Argerich is one of the absolute most perfect perfomer of our century. Brilliant technique and an outstandig musicious understanding and expression make her an absolute jewel of nowadays musicians.

I`m just glad to know so many redordings of her1

[otterhouse]

Nice dynamics...

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[jiaojiaomusic]

trop de pedale

[punture2]

yea seems quite different from his usual stuff isn't it...

I think it is very romantic, which is rather not bach...

[mertensfe]

Warum versieht YouTube dieses Video mit 14mal???

Dabei wird hier technisch einwandfrei gespielt!!! Ein in sich geschlossener Vortrag auf hohem künstlerischem Niveau. Die Fragezeichen sollten weg!!! Und dafür der Name dieser Künstlerin genannt werden.

feme.

[maxdatha]

awesome Bach but Bach himself....

[mikepenny01]

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[mikepenny01]

Yes...?

[dreewch2001]

brilliant skills........

good touch.....