Tom Daschle on Health Care

[MegatronAngel]

9:10 "I disagree".

Wow! How can any American disagree with that?

That's like describing Hitler's Germany in a detailed paragraph then contrasting it with early American principles and at the end the listener or reader says: "Yup, I agree with Hitler".

WTF? Unbelievable!

[dullgeek]

In this interview, I think Daschle made some very rational responses. Corelation does not imply causation. In general, the principle that you were suggesting is, I think, correct. But we don't know. Maybe Daschle's right. Maybe healthcare skyrocketed for reasons other than those laws. If we could rerun the experiment, maybe we could rule out unrelated variables. But we can't. As a result, I don't think this interview will convince anyone who disagrees with you.

[dullgeek]

In this interview, I think Daschle made some very rational responses. Corelation does not imply causation. In general, the principle that you were suggesting is, I think, correct. But we don't know. Maybe Daschle's right. Maybe healthcare skyrocketed for reasons other than those laws. If we could rerun the experiment, maybe we could rule out unrelated variables. But we can't. As a result, I don't think this interview will convince anyone who disagrees with you.

[HandyMan101]

that's all I needed...

the interviewer wants more freedom and choice and all I hear is "I disagree"



[HandyMan101]

Tom Daschle is a socialist.

just like all liberals.

[razerfish]

You should have made it even more clear. If you can go into a store and buy as what as you like and only be charged a penny, would a person end with the same amount of goods had he had to pay full price for everything? If he tries to say yes, he'll be made to look the biggest idiot on the planet.

[mikeandlaurie1979]

Typical response by another fibbing politician. Jan's point is valid. However, it's true that in this country we have many people who do not have fair, and adequate access to healthcare. The problem is.... our current system is managed and regulated by the government. Since george bush became president, I have no confidence that our government will honestly and effectively represent all people of this country with the equal rights we're told is the foundation of this country.

[Shrunkenhead61]

Technology should be bringing things down. In technology there are patents. Patents are making the private sector horde patents and keep the little guy from "inventing something" to compete (big corporations buy little guy patents, its a patent game). The government hands out patents too. Microsoft and Apple have been here for 20 years. No one else has come with competition. I respect Linux, it has its own little sectors, I support Linux. Liberty for a little security means A LOT.

[andrewh817]

"If we pool our resources...."

Nice euphemism for, if you give the government control of your money.

[Pissoutmyassnow]

Hey Everyone, back off this is my step-dad!

[GordonMorrice]

I love how the guy refers to sick people as "consumers" and not "patients".

[heymisterderp]

LOL the body language is just too good. The swallow at 0:52, eyeballing the camera at 1:13.

Then we get to his answers:

"There was an earthquake in Japan today..." as if to say, nothing we do in Congress has any relationship to bad things that just happen.

[timfowmo]

I loved that awkward silence you made him sit through at the end.

[Jyoyo1]

Jan,

See Karl Denninger's "marketticker" blog for some very useful ideas regarding timely and critically important questions to ask these clowns.

Media issues are distracting the public.

These people in CONgress are complicit in fraud and looting. They are bringing the system down. We either make them fess up now or it's too late.

[janhelfeld]

I needed more time to catch him in very fancy footwork, so I settled for a speech.

[rock90123]

It's not a debate, jan, nor is it a lecture. it's an interview. it's where you ask a question and he answers it.

You are a tool. How do you respond to that?

[Jyoyo1]

Thought I'd give you a second chance Jan and watched the whole thing.

I have to stand by my previous comment.

I agree with your position 100% but you came off shrill.

Are you interviewing or making speeches?

Daschle actually asked you "what do you suggest?"

That's the first time in awhile I've heard a politician ask that, vs telling you "how it is."

You lost this one.

[Jyoyo1]

Don't get me wrong. I like what you're doing Jan and I love seeing politicians exposed for the idiots most of them are.

But let the guy answer your question for more than 3 seconds before you cut in to repeat the same question! This is not an interrogation.

Let him make his point. That is usually enough to expose their ignorance. Then you can go in for the kill.

I could only watch 56 seconds before quitting in disappointment. Mellow out a bit and use a calm approach.

[falconclaw5000]

I'm gonna have to agree with this, sorry Jan, not your best interview.

I understand that you are very emotional about these issues, as am I, but you kind of made the Senator look good here.

[dtpac]

sweet tommie is the mother of the death panel concept, which he stole from his socialist boyfriends in europe.

[electroexecutee]

Like your boyfriends and their rectums, eh?

Look at dtpac's favourites. He has RECTAL EXAM videos which he watches more than anything else, and masturbates violently over them.

Never bend over with dtpac around. He'll be inside your rectum with his camera in no time.

[andrewh817]

oh man...... Tom looks like such a douchebag once the interview is done!

[dtpac]

he looks like a douchebag because he is. and he doesn't enjoy hearing any talk of "freedom" and "liberty."

[libertarianjury]

Can I personally buy a remedial economics course for Mr. Daschle at the local community college? Maybe we can take up a collection.

When helfeld mentions "free market" you can almost see the stomach acid squirt. ..."My employer, the taxpayer" LOL!

"But to say that's the only factor"... (ie: There are enough "other factors" to allow me "wiggle room" so I don't need to have principles, and can blame the disasterous effects of my policies on minor unrelated factors that muddy the waters...)

[allgoo19]

This interviewer should have looked into other countries with national health care and how it's working before asking, "If the medical spending will sky rocket?"

In fact, US is the one medical spending is sky rocketing.

Does anybody here thinks medical spending will slow down in the future with the way it is now (meaning w/o national health care)?

Medical spending vs. GDP in 2008:

US :17%

Other countries: around 10%

US medical spending by 2017: 20% of GDP

[shmabadu]

Listen to the interview around 6:00 minutes.

[allgoo19]

shmabadu: "Listen to the..."

It doesn't explain why other countries with health care have 1/3 the growing rate of US.

Having medicare and medicaid are not the same as having everybody under the health care plan. Insurance companies knew it and that's why they didn't put up much fight as much they do now for the national health care.

[carltonjhodge]

it's not the governments business how much i pay for anything.

[allgoo19]

carltonjhodge: "It's not the government.."

Sooner or later you'll lose your insurance policy, many people go out without insurance. Premium will go up and keeps going up. It'll be your business how much will the *government* pay you for the treatment.

I hope you'll have a guts to refuse the treatment and let the nature takes care of your end.

[carltonjhodge]

i don't have insurance. i do live with it.

[allgoo19]

cartonjhodge: "i don't have insurance.."

I kinda knew it. ^_^

Do you know there's no law that limits what the hospital can charge to the uninsured patient? And that it can be 5-8 times the amount they pay for the insurance company because the hospitals are always short of fund? They don't have to explain what you are charged for.

If you can qualify for the Medicaid, they'll pay but it's the same government running health care you are opposing to.

[Mozzzoo]

I think your work is quasi heroic, Jan. I do think you cut people off too quickly at times, though. I know it can be hard not to do that :)

[y2knoproblem]

Medical care is much different from grocery shopping. Poor argument by Jan.

[jthongb4ker]

"...i disagree"

what kind of pussy, cowardly cop out was that?! who the fuck keeps electing these morons into office??

[508307]

He was appointed by the annointed one, the Muslim Obama. I wonder how many more Gangsters he can put in Government. this guy is a # one Dirt Bag Crook from South Dakota.

[mayurasana]

I really love how politicians can never seem to answer questions clearly.!!!!

[oaky132x]

Tommy D. Answers questions about as well as he pays his taxes.

[WOLF333999]

I had awarded this video **** when I had yet to watch the ending. I would have awarded an additional star.

Daschle: "I disagree."

Helfeld: *pushes red button that opens the floor underneath Daschle*

[mrbrunelle]

Tom is completely naive. He disagrees with the founding fathers of this great country who were for human liberty. I wish people like that would just move to another planet.

[qstendious]

It's very unfortunate but the entire foundation of the United States is a hypocrisy. Take the Three-Fifths Compromise for example. Many of the Founding Fathers owned slaves. How much could they possibly have loved and believed in liberty while displaying these actions? Liberty for mankind or for white man? They seem to have been as one sided and hypocritical as modern day politicians. Slavery was legal in the US until 1865. From that point on until 1964 we had Jim Crow laws. I wish it wasn't so.

[StorminNormin1977]

Agreed slavery was wrong and a hipocrisy by many. So your answer is for all of us to become slaves to our govenrment?

[openyourmind888]

Jason this is pretty interesting. I was viewing one of my videos when it ended & this video popped up as related or preffered to me according to the vids I watch. I watched this vid dying laughing at Jan. He is so funny. He reminds me of Borat. After I was done watching it i was reading some of the comments & what a small world it is. I found little old you questioning the founding fathers. How dare you? They were good men that enslaved humans w/ dark skin. They believe in liberty for everyone.

[dtmbcorp]

WOW! Gripping bottom line.

This guy is really sharp.

[davyjames]

medical innovations lower costs

[Nielsio]

Precisely.

[SUGARDON209]

Daschle is a tool for the bankers . he is like Gore for Global Warming.. FAKE , Liars !!

[billfro1]

Well what he is implying is that there is more waste; people are going to to doctor unecessarily more often than they did before.

[prrolg]

It's nice to show how stupid these politicians really are. Especially the supposed "smarter" libs and Democrats.Thank you for the video

[tbrookover]

Are you saying that if your Mom broke her hip, you would want her in a wheelchair as opposed to getting a hip replacement where she can resume her life?

So break a hip.....and live with it?

[JakeandElwoodBlues]

Go pay your taxes TOM!!!!

[marceads]

Saturday I recieved a letter from Anthem Blue cross Blue shield. It was a very nice form letter stating that my health insurance coverage will increase by 22% this year. I am a self employed small business owner and this is an increase that I did not see coming, had not budgeted for, and will make it very hard for me to provide insurance. This is because of assholes like Daschle who are too far removed from reality positioning for universal health care. DO NOT TRUST ANY OF THESE PEOPLE.

[oilhammer04]

Don't confuse Daschle with the facts. The facts just get in the way of the Liberals socialistic agenda.

[CorrosionX3]

In Canada old people go to the emergency room when they feel alone. "Free" health care is anything but free.

I want free health care, but free as in free speech, not as in free beer.

[ruralpotter]

OOOH, I want two shots if they are half price!

Oh and while I'm at it, I think I will get two tumors out instead of just the one!

[kevindanielbrown]

Great interview. At least Daschle didn't deny that government intervention is a factor in raising health care costs. The end is priceless when all Daschle can say is "I disagree." LOL he obviously has nothing logical to say in response.

[janhelfeld]

Have you seen my documentary To Invade or Not Invade on the Iraq war?

[WhiteShark392]

No. You have interviewed Bush? I would love to see it posted on youtube...

[WhiteShark392]

I like jan, but I must admit Tom did a great job in this interview. There's no way a Bush or even a regular person put on the spot would have answered so intelligently. Bush would have probably started snickering, getting up close in his face, and talking about muslims again. Watch some of those interviews, they are hilarious. I hope jan interviews him and asks why he killed all those people in iraq.

[atrickpay11]

Tom is an idiot. He seems to have difficulty thinking in principles.

[slowbuildings]

He's not taking into account the financial benefits of preventive medicine. It could save billions yearly. People who can barely afford health care tend to put it off until their medical expenses are ten fold. I also don't think the cold, purely greedy hand of capitalism, which is fine in most areas of our economy because it is an excellent arena for entrepreneurs and the growing of some industries, should be involved in health care when people are sick and dying and need help.

[timbosforporn]

Did Jan say that the cold hand of capatilism would actually be responsible for helping others? There are lots of ways people help each other in this country that don't involve govt intervention and quit preferably I would prefer the cold hand of capatilism to the controlling back hand bitch slap we get from government.

[slowbuildings]

BRYAN351, I don't think the interviewer is delusional because of his beliefs, although I disagree with them.

My problem is the interviewer just seems to lecture Daschhle. It's rude. He seems to think he's being purely logical, but he is usually just trying to trap his interviewees with sophistry, disguised as logic. It's like he thinks he's being clever, but it's kind of obvious and really off-putting. And the tone in his voice is very creepy and obsessive. Thats what I picked up, anyway.

[slowbuildings]

I think Tom Daschle thought this guy was a delusional radical and just wanted to get the hell out of there! Can't blame him.

[BRYAN351]

slowbuildings, what exactly did Jan say that makes him a "delusional radical?" Be specific please.

It's sad that we've come to the point in our history where a large percentage of Americans think that advocating liberty, personal responsibility, and free market capitalism makes you a "delusional radical."

[vivalabag]

That was so funny at the end. Jan provides an eloquent defense of the free market and individual rights and all Daschle can say is "I disagree."

[JesseKantstopolis]

Jan proves statism is dead.

[irdial]

"I dissagree". WHAT A SCUMBAG!

[Nickelodeon2002]

I think this is the a good discussion. It remained respectful for both sides. Is it just me or does Daschle seem to give up in the end? I guess in the face of over whelming reason there is no choice....yet he still clings to his government interventionist beliefs....I wonder if he thought twice about it in the days after the interview.

[lukeev]

Yeah I suppose I can give him *some* props (as nasty scumbag politicians go) for not totally losing it as most others have with Jan.

[tesla921]

Daschle , a member of the parasite class, is an economic ignoramus. He is and always has been a freedom killer. Puting him in charge of anything will add to the current downfall of our ever shrinking prosperity.

You should ask him this question. "Why would you, as the moral, freedom loving person you say you are, want the gov't to force someone to pay for your health care?"

People are forced, at the point of a gun, to pay for his healthcare. Do you think he cares?

[2ndAsstJizzMopper]

lord above, it's like talking to an AOL customer "service" rep. dunno how jan stands these interviews, though he does interrupt far too much in many of them. obvious he's rushed by the precious little time with these pompous lunatics.

google "If You're Paying, I'll Have Top Sirloin" by russ roberts.

[billyjoeallen]

I discussed this exact issue on my weekend rant. Check it out on my channel.

The level of economic ignorance in this country could only be the result of government-run schools.

[billyjoeallen]

Daschle isn't that stupid (I think).That kind of economic ignorance is willful.

[shroomingnewman]

of course he isn't that stupid. he's a big govt liberal that believes govt can solve all of our problems. incidentally, he was just confirmed as the secretary of health and human services. get ready for the push for socialized healthcare.

[timbosforporn]

As long we believe govt "cares" about us then it can do whatever it wants to us. Thats how we think in this country today which is really really sad after you read what some of the revolutionary ideas that spawned this country.