PTSD and Veterans: Beyond the Yellow Ribbons

[voiceforveterans]

Yes, exactly! It is a matter of understanding and support for the families for them to be aware.

[charles8499]

OMG, this is RIGHT ON, 5 by 5. trouble dealing with this. It is not my wife's burdon...it is MINE.

OMG...

[carl1124]

You know that PTSD is no joke. Too many of the Service member come home to be scared. And you know that there is many other things that go unreported. There is many PTSD women and men that never faced the end of gun, but faced stigma of sexual assault. It lives with you forever. It goes untreated and looked at like you had it coming. It also goes un-compensated in any way.

[danMillstein]

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[7514328]

Diagnosed PTSD. I did not know what was happening, but it worsened. One minute I become hyper vigilant. Next minute depressed. I am always tired and stressed. I would try to find a way to laugh it off by looking at things as a joke. How do I tell these doctors what its like to see a white sheet soaked in blood covering a body? A bullet coming through the roof? Being pulled over at gun point? Sparodic gunfire at night? These people have no F'ing clue. Now I am on meds at the VA hospital.

[dieper2dieper]

then don't start wars all the time.

america lives from making war,

exept your losses.

besides, that banker realy needs his bonus,

so who cares about some grunts with ptsd ?

it's like human sacrifice,

offer some to make the individual's life better.

the natives of america did this too,

because it realy works.

it's barbaric, but it works.

[DrewDawg50]

They forgot to tell you people that if you are very honest with the doctors, they'll hold you in the hospital. That's why soldiers don't trust anyone. They say,"just tell us what's on your mind." But then they say, "if you say this or that, I'll have to report it." Fuck them.

[XIPM3]

ptsd is a failure of the military, the only reason it occurs is because the various militaries across the world have failed to train and hone their soldiers minds to prepare for the stress. it also depends on the society. who ever heard of russian soldiers with ptsd? it doesnt happen because russia is far more brutal then america, their minds are honed and trained for violence so they are not phased by it, the same thing goes for elite special forces- they arent affected by PTSD.

[junebugmeg]

lmfao! god man, read a book for once. ptsd doesn't only apply to soldiers but anyone who has been exposed to a traumatic situation, ie rape, severe physical abuse, natural disaster. ptsd symptoms in vets have been noticed for centuries if not longer. and the reason why you don't hear about russian soldiers with ptsd is because russia couldn't care less what its soldiers feel and wouldn't have the money to treat it anyways. and elite forces do have ptsd. read something from those who research it.

[RichardDdog]

Oh ok so you did your study on Russian troops? Where did you get your stats? When's the last time you checked a russian soldier for PTSD symptoms? You can train one to only a certain point. You're thinking about the movie Hitman here..guess what this is real life and real humans

[dieper2dieper]

you can prepare, nevertheless not for the real horror's of war.

you can't learn how to deal with your buddy splattered all over you in parts.

war is just so sick, you cant walk away saying

it didn't affect you.

well, you could if your behind a desk in the pentagon.

[eclipsepb87]

does anyone know how to save videos on youtube onto your computer....i really want to use this video into my stress film i have to make

[soberinstrument]

theres this program called youtube downloader thats how i get movies into my pc

[illinois1776]

this MILITARYEX fellow is a dumbass. as a veteran, i'm telling all of you, yes, PTSD sucks; but we're doing good things over there. i've seen things that made me grab my gun and crouch in the corner for no rational reason while state-side. but i still have faith in our American way of life. i love this Country and would do it all over again in a heart-beat. Hoo-Yah

[MILITARYEX]

This career damaged our military members & our families. In the Iraq War,they have been used as underpaid hit men to fight for the profits of WarBiz, Inc. They aren't heros! We are disgusted at the treatment of VETS,benefits delayed-denied. We will protect our children from this career that kills them returned in designer american flag body bags or damaged with ptsd, dismemberments,diseases! If you want to do some good for your country, be a police officer, fire fighter,attorney not military!

[chloebware]

You signed up and served just like me. Well the group you said never gets compensation. You will. The rape victim doesnt get a check like you. Deal with it. Its not curable but it liveable.

[sodeserving]

So true!

[timex129]

You forget that you need a military to help with those jobs back home. If it wasn't for the military defending the country, North America might be speaking German or Japanese. How is it that when an understandable reason of why we're in a war that everyone can live with it for the most part. Which is more likely due to the fact that the enemy is a country and not groups of people like insurgents. The thing with insurgents are that they are not fighting for their country.

[Scoundrelus]

I'm sure Russia helped in with the whole German speaking thing.

[dieper2dieper]

rofl, yep americans realy still believe that the US

defeated the third reich.

[dieper2dieper]

well, there isn't a powerfull nation like nazi germany anymore.

so why does the US need the biggest militairy machine ever ?

there can only be one reason,

to invade.

[garybrun]

Thanks for that. As a person diagnosed with chronic PTSD i could see a lot of myself in there. Ive never been a soldier or in combat. There are many people out there who have really traumatic experiences without going to war. For the soldiers... I take my hat of to you guys and hope that your goverments compensate you for your sacrifices.

[hypnofan35]

Sometimes the leaders cannot be fought. Sometimes you can see it coming. If you can vote against fools that might help. If once they gain power, they cannot be voted out and will likely have their way. The world can more easily be devided up into the dishonest of power and the honesty of workers. Sometimes the only out is to vote with one's feet but usually that means slammer time.

[hypnofan35]

Real haters find their way into the system where they are protected. My first grade teacher was protected while treating me like a traitor and telling me i should be run out of the country. She was a "post wwII mcCarthy republican red baiter" She hated small children and their damned families. She was like an evil prison guard.

[robsmackdaddy]

It's a very slow process. When the pro's tell you that it's normal...and it doesn't feel normal..it's tough to get passed. The only way to make it better for you and for your family(they are affected too) is to be pro-active in your own recovery.

[corkyra1]

corkyra1:

I first entered death in 1968 after getting out of going to Vietnam by joining the Army Special Forces, (Green Berets) National Guard.

I got a good paying job in Laos with the company Black Sites.

I take 15 different medications every day; the faces of death do not go away. I can feel their fear and pain.

Being a crybaby, because of my back pain and PTSD, death is my only escape.

Why will the VA or Company, not just put me to permanent sleep? "PLEASE"

[chloebware]

Do you mean you have no benfits from the VA?

[corkyra1]

No I am 100% disabled with PTSD and a broken back.

The VA has done everthing for me they can, I need help to find DVDs or Videos explaining what PTSD is to my family before I check out, so they will not blame it on themselves

[chloebware]

I waited a little to respond. You must be in your 60's. They have lived a long time with you and know your habits. I have a PTSD rating of 70% and my wife went with me to the Regional VA. I was terrified. What gives? Its not like you 20 coming back from Iraq.

[corkyra1]

I was not MAC-SOG I did the stuff they were not allowed to do at the same time they were there.

I went on the work for money, (a Mercenary) attached as a non-attached employ of the company.

All I believe in is that I gave our country all I could give, and now all I ask is for my county to put me to sleep.

[chloebware]

Look I am not trying to be an asshole but I was born in 1968. You get 100% from the VA so you were a Green Bereit. This means your family (kids) are older and have kids of their own. Look there are a lot of vet frauds and I am carefull.

[corkyra]

Chloebware,

What are your symptoms or maybe what has PTSD done to you that makes you a different person than you were before?

When I was in the VA locked Mental Facility there were about 40 other guys in there at that time. Only one was from the Vietnam Era Dwayne B.; I understood him and when he discussed his changes, state of being, from his tour of duty in Nam in 1973-1974 everything he said made sense to me.

[corkyra]

The rest of the guys I could not relate to, none of them had been close up, hands on but sort of just there when they experienced combat. Tell me about you experience that you fell may have caused your PTSD.

I have turned upside-down 100% different than I was. I did not go to the VA until 2000, I had a good friend M.D. that took care of me, but he died in 2000 so I went to see if I could find myself by getting VA treatment.

[chloebware]

The worse symptom I have is vomitting. If I smell anything that reminds me of a dead body I vomit.  As you know, a decaying body has a smell all of its own. The rest is typical. No sleep, nightmaters quick temper, and of course reaction to loud or unexpected stimuli. I have vommitted so much I know have something called GERD>

[chloebware]

I couldnt help but adding that it never gets better. I learned a few coping skills but I will never be what I was. I spend most of my time scared or drunk. Thats the way it is and I try to make the best of it.P.S. Get a dog. That truly helped me.

[bigtimepimpin666]

corkyra have you gone to the Vet Center?? Has it worked for you?

[chrome7713]

Very informative video.

People have to remember PTSD is not just as a result of being in combat..

[chloebware]

Yeah, but we did it for our country which most dont. We are different!

[ArchNME]

It's a really long philosophical debate as to whether it's subjective or not. That really touches on the validity of modern psychology as a whole. It is subjective to some extent and you can't prove a psychological disorder is debilitating. You can show a guy a picture of a gun and watch the fear center of his brain or whatever light up on a MRI but that doesn't mean anything more than that picture made an area of his brain light up. Everything else is pretty much his word.

[ArchNME]

"real" in terms of most psychological problems is very subjective. Also, my judgements are perfectly valid and acceptable. There really are vets who just want free money from the gov, that's reality, don't be so naive. Shammers are a real problem, they clog up the sick bay in the army when they want to get out of duty and they clog up the VA when they get out. It's not a fantasy of mine that these people are out there, I have personally known more than a few.

[chloebware]

Amen brother! Preach on! I turned down my PTSD sessions because of the Whiners and Bitches that as usual turn up at the local V.A.. My wife is a 20 year Navy Vet who survived spousal abuse, rape, and a volcano. She is tired of women trying to hog the spot lights.

[robsmackdaddy]

You're right Arch, there are "shammers" out there but they way you are coming across seems to be dicrediting the ones that genuinely have PTSD. Before I was diagnosed I thought it was the same and couldn't relate...after Afghanistan all of my other tours came back to me and it was and is hell. I'm for the troops.(I'm still one) and thanks for doing your tour of Iraq. Concentrate on the positive side of recovery not the leaches that buck the system...let the powers that be sort them out.

[lowerclassfighter]

Yeah, try having a family member come back with PTSD and fucking kill themselves. Then you can fucking talk

[ArchNME]

PTSD is such a sham. I mean, yeah, you see some fucked up shit in war no doubt and it's a sobering experience. Man has been brutally murdering eachother in combat for thousands of years though, it's not unnatural by a long run. These clowns just want a check every month. Lifes a bitch get over it.

[Mediaguy010101]

Support the troops, but to hell with them afterwards seems to be your approach. What we now call PTSD has been long been documented in history. But you want to ignore the research and the reality of vets in need. In your profile you're a fan of Reagan, I'm sure he'd be proud of you--calling soldiers serving 2,3, and now 4 combat deployments in Iraq "clowns". Instead of supporting folks a whole lot braver than you, you accuse them of being scam artists. Ya, you're a real winner.

[ArchNME]

Did you even watch that video in my profile it hardly makes me a fan. I support supporting troops with legit health issues and injurys to the fullest extent but I know a bunch of shammers when I see them. Also, I'm a veteran of the Iraq war myself so fuck you.

[chloebware]

To Arch: What was your mos and what branch did you serve in? Tell the truth.

[bigtimepimpin666]

chloebware, NO man not at all. my response didn't post under the right guy. He's a KKK/Skin head jerk who was saying guys with PTSD are full of S and just looking for a check. I have worked in the field and most guys don't even know about compensation. And if they know they mainly want help readjusting, it's touchy advising them about compensation - it is almost a bastardization of their suffering, but it is legitimate compensation for their service and suffering

[bigtimepimpin666]

chloebware, Have you gone to the Vet Center?? You are drinking to relax right? Maybe to go to sleep too right? do you think of scenes you don't like? Nightmares?

[chloebware]

All off the above but I will have to deal with my drinking soorer or later. Yes the VA has been wonderful. I think they get a bad rap. Are you a doctor or shrink? You sound like one. Give them Hell Bigtime. Keep them honest!

[bigtimepimpin666]

There are documentations of PTSD going as far back as history is recorded. Your tough guy stance just shows you are a rear-end coward. Obviusly you are not a Combat Vet. If you were you wouldn't be so full of crap.

[chloebware]

Hey big time: Who are you adressing? Me or someone else?

[Mediaguy010101]

I agree, a great video that presents the issue of PTSD from many angles--the soldier, the family and what we have to do as a society to help.

[jldarwin]

Great video - my rating was meant to be 5 stars, I goofed in entering it.