How to play Shogi(将棋) -Lesson#6- Capture and Drop

[trumpeter811]

The single act of dropping makes this game like 100X more fun then chess or checkers

[seishinryohosha]

HIDETCHI-sensi, For the capture-part.

Can I first pick up my piece have it in the position to snap it, but before I snap it I take the opponets piece with my thumb,ring thinger and pinky and snap my piece then. Short: I take the opponents piece and snape my own at the same time. Is this also rude? Please help me.

[hirohiigo]

@seishinryohosha It's not against the rules to do that, but it's common courtesy to move your opponent's piece to your komadai before even touching your piece.

[exscuela]

I knew you can use the peices that you captured because shikamaru was talking about it when he was fighting tayuya... btw your videos helped me learn shogi!

[TinyViet1990]

at the start of a game of shogi. how do you know who get to make the 1st move? like in western cheese whites get to go 1st at the start of every new game

[hirohiigo]

@TinyViet1990 You use "furigoma," or pawn toss. Details can be found in lesson 21. :)

[k13scdude]

We call it a "tray" in English.

when you capture the pieces.

Hope that helps

[Dunpeal875]

Amazing videos man!!! Great work and effort!! Can't stop watching! Thanks a lot!

[EmperorTaizong]

Can a pawn capture a piece that's diagonal to it like in chess?

[hirohiigo]

@EmperorTaizong No. It can only capture directly forward.

[TorisLaCroixFilms]

So 'horse' in Shogi has rights as western one. In Xiangqi horse cannot jump over another figure. If not a kanji, Shogi would be most popular version of chess ever, despite of logical rules and fast gameplay, isn't it?

[TorisLaCroixFilms]

So 'horse' in Shogi has rights as western one. In Xiangqi horse cannot jump over another figure. If not a kanji, Shogi would be most popular version of chess ever, despite of logical rules and fast gameplay, isn't it?

[alirubit]

hahaha, I found my self answering your questions as if i were in class xD, 'Yes, it can'

[minicm122]

Is it better to get a travel kit for Shogi, or the one where you need to sit and play?

[hirohiigo]

@minicm122 It depends on what you want to do with it. I have both sets; I bring the travel-sized set everywhere with me. But the size of a sit-down set is easier to play with.

[p90killsyou]

wait could you drop a piece to a position that puts ur enemy king in check or even checkmate???

[HIDETCHI]

@p90killsyou Of course

[PeponcioXurripamfil]

@HIDETCHI but not a pawn, right?

[KampungJering]

Hey. Can I ask you something? Let say I have a Pawn in hand. I want to drop my Pawn in the opponent camp. Once I drop my pawn, can I straight away promote it? By the way, how to say "check" and "checkmate" in Japanese?

[HIDETCHI]

You can't, of course.

Check is ou-te, checkmate is tsumi.

[winedragon]

I want to ask, what happens if you capture a piece, and then put it on the enemy's camp can you promote it immediatly?

[hirohiigo]

@winedragon No. The piece have to move AFTER being dropped to promote.

[HallowedError]

I just tried to watch a championship video and before they started one guy shook a bunch of pawns like dice and let them go and then set them up again. Is there an explanation or was it just tradition?

[HIDETCHI]

See lesson#21.

[TorisLaCroixFilms]

@HallowedError it would be like Go rule about choosing 'colours of stones', if they were at same kyu-dan level (they're used at Shogi anyway, Hidetchi-sama?)

[iLuvHinata360]

nice, spawning was doubtfull in some occasions, thank you for clearing it out ^^, Hidetchi sensei.

[qqcu1]

The captive is brainwashed and used again as a spy. lol

[Saito113]

Hola, ante todo me encantan los videos, pero por favor a quien haya escrito los subtitulos deberia corregir todos los errores ortograficos y gramaticos que tiene su trabajo. Estoy encantado de que alguien se haya preocupado de traducirlo a mi idioma, pero por favor arreglalo xDDD hay frases que no tienen sentido alguno.

Y de nuevo Muchas gracias por el creador de los videos y por el chico que ha puesto subtitulos, solo ese defecto de tantas incoherencias ;)

[willimarconi]

por si sirve de algo, tengo subidos un par de videos en castellano acerca del shogi.

Espero ayudar =D

[graceoverall]

At 2:37 we (western America) usually call a spot like that a "graveyard." Because it's like we have killed the opponent piece and it goes to rest in the graveyard. This may not fit well since the pieces can come back in Shogi, but perhaps it still works.

[hirohiigo]

I don't think it should be called a graveyard. Shogi soldiers are never killed, so there is no need for graves. It also makes the game too grim. It just doesn't match the atmosphere of shogi. ^^; We just call them piece stands, or just "komadai."

[graceoverall]

I suppose you're right, haha. ^.^

[Gundam4life]

@graceoverall

i think "jail" could work to

[sangotiger4321]

lol when u were talkin about captureing 'most of you might do this *knocks piece out of way*"

When I played chess I wouldn't just knock it out of the way, I would send it flying off the board cause I would be so excited about getting a piece XD

[pikapower427]

I think there is something wrong, In the video at 5:08,  I can't hear anything. How do you drop a piece?

[HIDETCHI]

Oh, nothing's wrong.

How you drop is explained from 5:08.

[pikapower427]

?? oh thanks xD

[YuTe3712]

Hello HIDETCHI! I have been searching for sites, vids, etc. on shogi for more than three months, and I found you! These videos are beyond what I needed, and I am absolutely grateful for your hard work! Thank you so much!

[polkaspotsss]

This totally beats checkers and chess.

[alirubit]

@polkaspotsss Hell yeah, this is way better

[raydeld]

omg i wanna play you so bad even tho i know i would lose :P but atleast i learn from the best :D

[LoroSanLoveRamen]

where did you ordered the new board? want a Shogi board so much!!

[666pandemic]

Look on ebay hundreds of 'em cheapest I saw at a glance was $20 and came with the pieces.

[LoroSanLoveRamen]

Ty m8

[666pandemic]

No prob

[xDAZZE]

So you can even put a drop, for example, a Flying Chariot, right in front of a king and put it in check, or also promote it in the same turn that it was dropped?

[HIDETCHI]

As I've said in the video, you can drop it on any vacant square with only those exeption I've mentioned.

And I've said that you drop a piece instead of moving a piece on the board, so that means when you have dropped a piece, you lose your turn to play and your opponent will make a play.

[MXdetty]

its starting to get complicatet and yes what hapens when you put a pice in enemys camp dose it promote ore do you have to wait?

[HIDETCHI]

You drop a piece always with its unpromoted side up. So you'll have to wait for the next move to make it promoted.

[pimporosz]

You should call the piece stand  jail.

[WalkerRIley]

I believe it literally translates as "Shogi piece table" or something similar, so hidetchi's term was spot on.  Though calling it a jail would be humorous.

[paladinner]

Hey, HIDETCHI...I'm very interested in playing Shogi and appreciate your videos, but I have a question about this video.

Can you promote a piece that you drop into your enemy's base camp, or do you have to wait until you move it out?

[HIDETCHI]

You drop a piece always with its unpromoted side up. I thought I mentioned it in this video. If we could drop pieces with them promoted, we'd have many Golds to drop and it would be a strange game.

Oh, and Youtube notifies the uploaders with e-mail alert when a new comment has been posted. So don't worry about the video being too old to have a new comment noticed.

[YuTe3712]

Take a look at my reply with Hafisie's comment. (about 8 months ago.)

[InsaneOverlord666]

Lol, you pointed it out in your description. But not untill that did I notice the nifu. But Uhh... those are all pawns down there infront of your knight... when they where part of your team... how did they get there?

[neosullachiappa]

Hi. Thanks again for the clear explaination.

[willimarconi]

oh, I forgot it, I am learning how to play shogi and your videos are very good, they helped me a lot, thanks mate

[willimarconi]

i've got a cuestion?i have seen that you have been talking about chinese language.but i heared that shogi comes from japan and, as i am learning japanese(and english), i realised that most caracters are written like in chinese but they have got different meanings. so, where do you think they come from??? I am a bit confused,lol

[HIDETCHI]

We always use Chinese characters in Japan. The meaning of each character is the same between China and Japan.

These shogi pieces are invented in Japan, but it's just that we named them with Chinese characters as we always do.

[YuTe3712]

Almost all "chess" games originates from India actually. Also, Japanese use three writing systems: the original (Hiragana), a version of the original to fit foreign words not included in the Japanese dictionary (Katakana), and one which is similar to Chinese, only it looks very slightly different, and also means things slightly different. So you could say that it's a Japanese version of Chinese, although that's not accurate.

[superfullvic]

I like the fact that you take your time to explain everything clearly and slowly. Thanks for your videos.

[HIDETCHI]

Thanks for your kind comment.

Hope you enjoy my future videos, too.

[jjblades1010220]

Hey thanks for the video again Hidetchi, but what is the name of the piece stand in Japanese, I'm curious. I wouldn't understand the Japanese letters but how could I spell/pronounce it in english.

[HIDETCHI]

Hi, thanks for your comment.

We call it a "Komadai" in Japanese.

[Start0ver1]

dude this helped me so much ive been having trouble with my drops

[Hafesie]

Hi The sound was a bit fuzzy so I didn't quite get the promotion part - If you capture a promoted piece does it unpromote?

[HIDETCHI]

Hi. It's just that you always drop a piece with its unpromoted side up.

[YuTe3712]

I think of it like this: Promoted pieces = soldiers with information, like a spy who escaped the enemy's camp. When they "die", their information is no longer available. When a "new" soldier is introduced, no matter what, they have no information, so you could consider it umpromoted. That is why they need at least one move to promote. Any chess is similar to real war. FYI not promoting is probably like a spy being cautious, making one last check, then gaining information. Sorry if it's to long.

[thephoenix4ever]

actually I'm left handed it seems easier to move the pieces with it cause I write with it (I take Mandarin Chinese at my school so I know how to write some basic things like "Ni or something but I'm better with pinyin lol.

[HIDETCHI]

Hi, thanks for leaving a comment.

I didn't understand what Mandarin Chinese means at first, but after I looked it up in my dictionary, I noticed it's the language spoken in Beijing area. It's Pu-Tong-Hua, right?

Oh, you learn Chinese by only using pinyin? So you mean you basically don't use Chinese characters and just use alphabets, like "Ni Hao, Wo Shi Zhon-Guo-Ren"? Hmmm, I see.

[DrakeZetavon]

Your lessons are great thanks alot

[trashcan666]

Really helpfull.

Thanks alot.