Competing in the Submission Wrestling League as a member of Straight Blast Gym has been one of the most enlightening experiences of my life. Training BJJ, boxing, and wrestling has been the single best thing I've ever done for myself. Anyone who criticizes what we do only does so out of ignorance. Come down to the gym and see for yourself. And as far as "un-evolved" goes . . . I don't even know what to say. If we got rid of our "hunter mentality" wouldn't we all go hungry, the ladies included?
People get stimulated by hurting someone because it means the er superior to another human being. If there is something you can't escape it is your instincts. Instincts can only be altered through evolution. And we are currently being more agressive. But not at the physical level.
Why do you then think humans are stimulated by simulating or even physically hurting another person. And why do humans learn the arts of hurting. Those are all questions answered by instincts. We are animals.
Agree but i would take it a step further ...why are we still trying to identify ourselves with our ability to fight and win over another human...we should have evolved (moved on) further. Why even attempt to learn to choke someone out...
Sir ..OK last time. Yes, stimulating combat is fun. I say: WHY is stimulating "hurting" another human STILL fun after civilization has evolved so much (supposedly) ...are we still stone age people at heart. Does a part of men never really grow up? Don't want to sound like a snob..but I think this discussion should be left for another time and place.
Why EVEN STIMULATING hurting someone is fun (not hurting for real but just learning how to)? I also feel it is fun...When as kids girls pretend to cook or dress a doll....similarly as grown ups we are learning to choke or KO people out. Why even learning that is fun is a mystery to me. I myself think it is fun. When I shadow box I pretend to have an enemy infront of me that I am trying to destroy !!! UMMMmmmm. Just wanted to know what peoples thoughts were thats all.
I see where you're coming from then. That brings up a pretty interesting question. Can one practice non-violence and martial arts at the same ti think me? I one can practice the techniques without nessicarily carrying violence in his heart, but I could be wrong
It's not the hurting of another person that draws you onto the mat - it's a warrior's satsang: the chance to observe yourself at the rawest levels. That is always a good thing. Note: you quickly realize, fundamentally, the fiercest and most relentless opponent ends up being your very own self, not the person you are rolling with.
"most relentless opponent ends up being your very own self"...very true BUT the channel, the path to "doing" this is STILL learning to choke or KO another human....and yes this is our rawest level..our most UN-EVOLVED level (the fight/aggressor/hunter mentality)...no wonder many think that we should have evolved to have more of the feminine side...that God is a women and the survival of the wisest instead of the toughest.
I think Matt highlights some of the potential postive benefits of training martial arts (there are of course many potential negatives). I myself have used martial arts as a vehicle to attempt to transcend identification of masculinity/self-worth with my ability to dominate others physically and mentally. His vid on google vid 'why we train' goes into more depth. I think grappling arts are great cos you can practice them without incapcitating your partner. (sorry for answering 1 yr on).
Wonderful!
fillsack 1 year ago
Matt Thornton has just got a whole heap of respect from me. love it.
kjax2008 2 years ago
Competing in the Submission Wrestling League as a member of Straight Blast Gym has been one of the most enlightening experiences of my life. Training BJJ, boxing, and wrestling has been the single best thing I've ever done for myself. Anyone who criticizes what we do only does so out of ignorance. Come down to the gym and see for yourself. And as far as "un-evolved" goes . . . I don't even know what to say. If we got rid of our "hunter mentality" wouldn't we all go hungry, the ladies included?
haircutdeluxe 2 years ago
People get stimulated by hurting someone because it means the er superior to another human being. If there is something you can't escape it is your instincts. Instincts can only be altered through evolution. And we are currently being more agressive. But not at the physical level.
Why do you then think humans are stimulated by simulating or even physically hurting another person. And why do humans learn the arts of hurting. Those are all questions answered by instincts. We are animals.
Rochondil 3 years ago
mma needs more of this and less of kimbo slice and the angry side of martial arts
lyfelife19 3 years ago 6
Agree but i would take it a step further ...why are we still trying to identify ourselves with our ability to fight and win over another human...we should have evolved (moved on) further. Why even attempt to learn to choke someone out...
By the way I still love this stuff
AIMANALI 3 years ago
Why learn? Because its fun and good for you.
If you're not having fun why bother?
aikighost 3 years ago
"...its fun": yeah thats what I meant...why is it still fun to learn to fight ?
"good for you"...so is yoga and cooking ..ie doesn't involving learning to KO someone of choke someone !!..see my point
AIMANALI 3 years ago
Personally I enjoy eating but find coking pretty boring.
As for combat sports its a hard test of your physical and mental self whats not fun about that?
aikighost 3 years ago
Sir ..OK last time. Yes, stimulating combat is fun. I say: WHY is stimulating "hurting" another human STILL fun after civilization has evolved so much (supposedly) ...are we still stone age people at heart. Does a part of men never really grow up? Don't want to sound like a snob..but I think this discussion should be left for another time and place.
AIMANALI 3 years ago
Do you mean, "Why do it for the sake of hurting someone, rather than for the sake of doing it?"
Greatsocratesghost 3 years ago
Why EVEN STIMULATING hurting someone is fun (not hurting for real but just learning how to)? I also feel it is fun...When as kids girls pretend to cook or dress a doll....similarly as grown ups we are learning to choke or KO people out. Why even learning that is fun is a mystery to me. I myself think it is fun. When I shadow box I pretend to have an enemy infront of me that I am trying to destroy !!! UMMMmmmm. Just wanted to know what peoples thoughts were thats all.
AIMANALI 3 years ago
I see where you're coming from then. That brings up a pretty interesting question. Can one practice non-violence and martial arts at the same ti think me? I one can practice the techniques without nessicarily carrying violence in his heart, but I could be wrong
Greatsocratesghost 3 years ago
yeahh...something to think about.
AIMANALI 3 years ago
Wow, in retrospect, that was a really jacked up sentence.
Greatsocratesghost 2 years ago
It's not the hurting of another person that draws you onto the mat - it's a warrior's satsang: the chance to observe yourself at the rawest levels. That is always a good thing. Note: you quickly realize, fundamentally, the fiercest and most relentless opponent ends up being your very own self, not the person you are rolling with.
goodkharma 3 years ago 6
"most relentless opponent ends up being your very own self"...very true BUT the channel, the path to "doing" this is STILL learning to choke or KO another human....and yes this is our rawest level..our most UN-EVOLVED level (the fight/aggressor/hunter mentality)...no wonder many think that we should have evolved to have more of the feminine side...that God is a women and the survival of the wisest instead of the toughest.
AIMANALI 3 years ago
"....Another time and place." Exactly.
goodkharma 3 years ago
I think Matt highlights some of the potential postive benefits of training martial arts (there are of course many potential negatives). I myself have used martial arts as a vehicle to attempt to transcend identification of masculinity/self-worth with my ability to dominate others physically and mentally. His vid on google vid 'why we train' goes into more depth. I think grappling arts are great cos you can practice them without incapcitating your partner. (sorry for answering 1 yr on).
LuqmanNaq 2 years ago
Beutifully said! Matt Thornton is just what the MMA world needs to hear.
chodykumbra 3 years ago
So interesting, the reason why we train.
PouyaSthlm 4 years ago