UN warning over Zimbabwe cholera crisis - 3 Feb 09

[gadionson1]

I want to help... but how??? :-(

[Clyde200k]

o yea jebus is gonna help sooooooo much

[chigudo]

ong live mugabe may you continue the good work of kiling more apes and may you continue to starve blacks

mugabe for sure you are our hero, you have given us land yet we still in hunger

mugabe thanks so much for murambatsvina and gukurahundi

thanks so much sekuru for chasing the pink skin away

please sekuru enjoy lavish food and houses whilst i eat rats and matumbu

Thank you our father mugabe for the land, but we are still suffering

thank you for chasing those pink pigs,

[americansamoan08]

dude Ajeerenglish you misspelled ORGANIZATION you use S instead of Z....

juss sayin..

[AbriannaSt]

What it take to get through people head that its no longer about color or who's more dominate...its about saving the human race. people cant help that they weren't born in america where vaccines are availible. you should help anyone if you can because you never know when america can have an outbreak and we would have to reach out to other countries. Have a heart and do something in your life that will keep an everlasting meaning to who we are as people

[bluballzzz]

lol idiot if something bad happend to america no one would be strong enough to save us

[MayeCreations]

AbriannaSt: Your comment on this video seems to be the only kind, decent thoughts towards these victims. By the Grace of God, I go thee. This could happen to anyone, anywhere, anytime and to help one another is what we are supposed to be about, not rejoice in others misery and death. Peace to you and many blessings...

[Hani110]

They are stupid niggers, Your right. When they have sex they know that it will make the women have another baby. Yet they have babys all the time? They do not control there population.  Its them who are causing this.

[Nidza295]

stupid niggers lol :))))))

[mrhudini]

I am not say MUGABE is good,but for all this situation today in Zimbabwe is to blame the west for sunction.Africa is always beautiful and rich for resouce.The corruption it is something verry populer in Africa.Remember when Mugabe was friend to the west zimbabwe was beautiful but also remember if you dont listen the west they will call u a "BAD BOY" so "who's bad"!!!!???

[Znaika1]

The sanctions that exist are against a very limited number of corrupt ZANU officials like Mujurus, Mugabes, Zvinavashe etc. and businesses owned by them. The list is less than 200 names; other 15 million Zimbabweans and all fair Zim businesses are free to trade with anyone abroad. Furthermore the sanctions that exist are by US and EU only. Other countries did not join these sanctions, so 200 thieves have no restrictions to trade with or stash their money in China, SA, and all other countries.

[anthonykovic]

Zimbabwe has been going to hell ever since the blacks "liberated" the country from the white imperialists. Instead of working for whites, the Zimbaweans are now literally dying under black rule. I hope they enjoy their "liberation".

[sugarbrown4life]

Umm first of all there is a president who does not care it has nothing to do with Blacks needing to rely on Whites!

And the rights of ppl there and many other countries are diff from the U.S

[sweetelesue]

What good is washing your hand and feet if you're DRINKING THE WATER?

[sugarbrown4life]

Exactly

[ttiger46]

And you can thank the US and Britain for supporting Mugabe and ousting then prime minister Ian Smith (that had built Rhodesia into a vibrant economy). But of course you won't read a word about it in the mainstream press. They are two fucking embarrased that they supported this fucking despot monkey to lead the country into devastation and abject poverty. Be careful what you fucking ask for. Democracy does not work in Africa..PERIOD. Get a fucking clue already. Politicians are so clueless........

[Znaika1]

This is true. If UK and US supported Rhodesia , it would have survived.

[terrafirma91]

Politicians aren't "clueless". They're just waiting for the highest bidder to come along to pad their wallets. That's what they do best. In fact, that's ALL they do!

[Chirios1]

Right, and thats why Botswana, South Africa, Benin and Cape Verde have all managed to maintain stable democracies in the new millenium. Yep because "them monkeys" can't run countries. Fuck off, Mugabe is a monster, but that doesn't mean that all African politicians are the same. Africa has not had the greatest of histories, I can say that things are changing. Bigoted remarks only help to cloud the issue; and claiming that you are better than africans by some divine mandate shows YOUR ignorance.

[bereaman]

Going Blackwards-why dont black people fix anything.?

[southbobby]

End the evil sanctions U.S , London , and Brussels.

The natural resources are supposed to benefit the the people of Zim, Mugabe is just doing what's right.Governments in the West just think about what you are doing to the innocent people of Zim.

[Znaika1]

Natural resources indeed belong to all people and so they should benefit all Zimbabweans, however there are different ways of achieving it. The socialist way implies nationalisation of the resource industries resulting in a lack of business initiative and growth of corruption of the part of management, ultimately leading to either enforcement and tight control of each and everyone like in North Korea or economic failure like in Soviet Union. There is another way - impose high enough royalties.

[Znaika1]

There are no sanctions against Zimbabwe. Sanctions are targeted against about 200 corrupt ZANU officials, like former minister of women's affairs, Joyce Mujuru, who fraudulently received Z$389,472 from War Victims Compensations Fund prior its collapse in 1997 and leaving hundreds of thousand disabled without any means for existence. Mujuru received the money on the basis of 'poor vision' and 'mental stress disorder'. And these targeted sanctions are by US and EU only. China and SA are opened.

[southbobby]

These are the effects of the of the sanctions you claim to be aimed at only Mugabe. If anyone is will to connect the dots they will find out the terrible conditons are linked directly to the sanctions in 2001.

Besides ,Mugabe and the people of Zim are in the same economy.

[Znaika1]

No Southbobby, these are the effect of socialism, not sanctions. Every socialist state ends up like this with no exceptions. Or else give me an example. All: Russia, China, N Korea, Cuba, Vietnam, Cambodia ended up like this. Socialism represents the worst of all sanctions: it promotes laziness and inefficiency and demotes initiative, business risk and effort. The result is always economic stagnation followed by a collapse unless minimal productivity is enforced at the gun point like in N Korea.

[baudtin]

yes! the fucking "wild fruit" made him sick!

this is what happens when you chase the white man away!

[reprimand33]

enjoy!! viva back empowerment:)

[R3dp055um]

Pondman, you are sadly deluded. Your picture of the colonial era seems to be straight out of ZANU/ZAPU propaganda.

What about the 15,000 Matabele that Mugabe murdered as soon as he got control of the government?

Do you have any idea how many whites were brutally murdered in the Bush War by communists? I'm not talking about deaths in battle, I mean farmers attacked at night by guerillas.

For fuck's sake get over the Smith era already, that's 30 years gone.

Mugabe is a bloody-handed tyrant.

[Snoguube]

3,229 deaths

[R3dp055um]

Pondman, a nation must have exports to pay for its imports, or it develops a trade deficit. You blame white farmers, but they were the largest employer before the bush war, the largest producers of food, both for domestic use and export.

I don't deny the evils of colonialism, but let's also acknowledge the benefits. Even today, Zimbabwe has a very high literacy rate for sub-saharan Africa, the legacy of an excellent school system from the colonial era.

[pondman27]

R3dp055um thank you for your comment. It acknoledges what I have been saying.

Any people, regardless of where they are, in hard times, focus 1st upon their needs. Food, water & shelter. To bring self sufficiency in these things, one does not need to import anything other than seeds if they don't already exist.

Autonomy is everything as many will come to learn as the global storm strengthens. We should be striving to assist this everywhere & stop the demented persuit of other peoples resources.

[mieroth]

How about you stop using a scapegoat for all of Zimbabwe's problems and deal with the issue at hand. You are free to try to help Zimbabwe but I'm sure you won't. Instead you'll "contribute" by spreading nonsense conspiracy theories on the internet. Help deal with Zimbabwe's cholera crisis instead of trying to find ways of blaming it on the British. Please. -.-

[YTwatcher38]

mieroth...I don't want to sound racist,but it is really annoying when you Europeans keep acting like blacks just make excuses,and Europe did not cause this. Europe sliced Africa to pieces and raped it from the ground up.But the major death blow is all the true leaders were imprisoned, murdered, exiled ,and sabotaged out of the political arena by the Europeans. That just leaves criminal,puppet Africans to govern,LIKE IDI AMIN WHO WAS GROOMED IN YOUR COUNTRY'S MILITARY,NO!!?

[jesslessthemess]

finally someone wth a brain. Don't waste your breath on the idiots of the world. i spent a month on some fool who's no further along the when we started.

[mieroth]

For a start, there are black Europeans. So I'll assume that you are only generalising all the white people in Europe. =) And I don't believe Idi Amin was ever in the Swedish army... no...

Hopefully you feel better now that you got that off your chest. Now, back to the matter at hand... I'll repeat: Try to help Zimbabweans instead of wasting your time coming up with elaborate conspiracy theories involving the British deliberately poisoning the water. -.- This bit is aimed at pondman27.

[YTwatcher38]

You mentioned Britain,Idi Amin came up in the British Army. He went out of the British army into Ugandan government. I am sure you don't think Britain helped him,of course. And Sweden was a one of the major players in the Atlantic slave trade. In fact your country,like most of Europe that time,was pretty much like this video here before the wealth that was accrued through the slave trade. Do I have to teach you your own history?Or you just blinded by your bigotry?

[mieroth]

I mention Britain because pondman27 said the BRITISH have poisoned the water. Are you trying to tell me what I think? I'm indifferent to it since I'm not an expert on Idi Amin. He could have had help from the British government. Or not. Sweden were hardly "major players in the Atlantic slave trade" using any definition. Yet I don't see how this is relevant to whether the British are deliberately poisoning water in Zimbabwe today. Blinded by bigotry? Take a long look in the mirror.

[YTwatcher38]

Sweden was a major player. Sweden had slave trade agreements with several other European countries.They had slave trading post in Africa and the Caribbean.And they had a major lay in the vessels used to transport slaves around the world.Much of Sweden's wealth today came from this.Almost all of Europe's wealth came from this.If the truth makes me look a bigot to you,so be it.

[mieroth]

You're hopeless. Sweden was a tiny country back then and was in no way a major player in the Atlantic slave trade. Sweden was before, during, and after the slave trade a poor country. We really only became rich after WWII since we sold heaps of goods to the nazis (and had a neutral non-fighting stance during the war). You're blinded by bigotry alright. I mention the ridiculousness of accusing the British of poisoning water in Zimbabwe and you go on a rant about colonialism. -.-

[YTwatcher38]

OK.Write your own history on Sweden despite a thousand articles on Sweden and the slave trade.Whatever.

[mieroth]

I don't need to write my own history. The actual history is enough to disprove your statements. :)

[YTwatcher38]

As far as the water,we are not there so we cannot say what is or isn't ridiculous when there is starvation,politics and power involved. I sounded ridiculous that Europeans purposely spread disease to the Native Americans through blankets,but......

[mieroth]

Native Americans fell ill because they weren't resistant to the same bacteria Europeans were. The "blanket theory" is yet another conspiracy theory that most scholars do not believe in. Why? Because people back then didn't know how disease spread so it's highly unlikely that they deliberately tried to make people sick. I see you're another conspiracy theorist. -.- How tiring... fine, you keep on believing and spreading the message that the British are poisoning water in Zimbabwe. Have fun. =)

[YTwatcher38]

I never said I believe Britain did anything.I said you and I do not know either way.

[mieroth]

pondman27 does believe it. And that's who I was talking to before you interrupted. =)

[YTwatcher38]

funny guy

[koolkoon]

mieroth Dont waste your time with this bigot,he is obviously mentally handicapped,YTwatcher38 pull your head out your ass and stop talking so much bullshit

[R3dp055um]

Biological agents...are you serious?

This is a lack of basic sanitation caused by 30+ years of corruption.

[pondman27]

No sir, this is the effect of sanctions combined with the destruction of an economy by the IMF & World Bank.

Disease has long since been a weapon used to bring a nation down, its timing is very significant.

If the international community was truly benevolent, it would release the poor nations from the debts, lift sanctions and supply all the help we could.

But no, everything is business, when a countries people kick back, we call them tyrants & terrorists, tare apart their economies & so on

[pondman27]

Anyone doubting the coincidence that another country that has defied the corporate interests of the colonialists has succumbed to outbreaks of disease following sanctions and other covert measures should watch "Confessions of an Economic Hitman"

[abarzilai664]

Does this mean you support the repressive and imcompetent Robert Mugabe?

[pondman27]

Lets put it like this. I support any nations claim to self determination WITHOUT the interference from the globalist movement.

What I know of Zimbabwe is that it is very fertile. Western agriculture is by its very nature very destructive in terms of its environmental impact. Add to this, that the produce of the colonial farmers was orientated to exports, then I would support the indigenous people rather than the imperialists. As to Mugabee, do you honestly think we are being told the truth

[starcatcher7777]

Hey ALL YOU SOCIALISTS:

Look at the legacy of Jimmy Carter!

Kill the white farmer and you get famine and you are back to Chief 2 Buzzard Feathers and 2 Dogs Fucking with a turtle shell rattle giving you "Free Health Care" ...LOL

[angelicsoulz]

They say this outbreak came from contaminated water while Mugabe claims this was a bio attack.Probably is the water but i don't put anything past the British.

[pondman27]

The Bio-attack would be the most probable source. I feel for the people of any nation whose leadership have stood up to the colonialists.

[TECHKLEC]

A Bio-attack for what gain?

[pondman27]

In the same way as sanctions weaken a country, the introduction of biological agents are used in the same way that terrorist attacks, to bring the people and administration to its knees.

There is another more sinister perspective, for that you should google "Georgia Guidestones"

[TECHKLEC]

But anyone having access to such technology would be aware of the probable spread of pathogens beyond the intended target. I don't buy into conspiracy theories, it just breeds a lot of unnecessary paranoia.

[pondman27]

I hope you are right. I hope that the world comes to see that this is a struggle these people are making to be free of the colonialist influences that arrived almost 120 years ago.

I have little doubt that the controlling interests that continue to enforce sanctions & thus inflict greater hardship & death, can be made to release their grip. This place is just one amongst many where innocent people suffer because of international interests.

[stevenaburton]

It is much more likely that it was caused by the totally collapse of the economy brought on by Mugabe's mismanagement. No no medical staff, no drugs.

[pondman27]

No drugs! Sanctions because this country would not lay down and sign over its mineral resources to western interests. Same game as ever.

This would not be the first time the covert agencies have used biological weapons.

[stevenaburton]

The remote possibility that it could be biological weapons is useless speculation unless you have a shred of evidence to support your claim. Of course you dont. A more likely explanation is that they have no medical infrastructure because economy collapsed when they wiped out all the people who were generating the economic activity. Biological weapons? No, this is just more wild conspiracy theories again, a monster under every bed.

[pondman27]

It is interesting that you joined the debate here Steven. As for hard evidence for the insinuations I have made, of course I do not have hard evidence. But this I can state with confidence. As we have seen before, the evidence of events such as this, become revealed over time, just as with the AIDS epidemic.

You may wish to declare all these things as wild conspiracy theories, but the truth is that these capabilities are very real and owned by the MIC

[stevenaburton]

Not that interesting Dave. With the misinformation you were peddling, I decided to see what else you were up to. You didn't disappoint; biological weapons and now the secret Americans/Jewish Alliance Who Wants to Dominate the World is behind AIDS? You sure spin great fiction.

At least you admit you have no evidence. Your theory is air. I appreciate the honesty and hope you knock it off. If not, I hope that everyone reads your comments will view them with the suspicion they deserve.

[pondman27]

I predicted your response would be as is. You also have no evidence to contrdict what I suspect is possible. Especially since the other attacks against Zimbabwe's economy & the sanctions. We've seen these tactics before & I condemn the international community for applying sanctions. The present situation in Zimbabwe is a result of the battle between the colonialist under Cecil Rhodes & the indigenous population. We should be sending aid to these people & assist in their independence.

[stevenaburton]

Happy to accommodate Dave.

Fortunately, one doesn't need evidence with which to refute wild speculation. The onus is upon you to prove you are not just blowing smoke out your behind.

Regarding the sanctions, they only affect Mugabe and his top aides and 60 other "persons and entities that are actively associated with the violence or human rights infringements of the regime." Perhaps we should send these guys money?

There are many NGOs working in the country. Feel free to donate.

[pondman27]

We see at present the increasing calls for ever more sanctions. Your claim that the sanctions only effect Mugabe is both inaccurate & naive. It is so relevant that you bring up the accusations of human rights. Such duplicity from one such as yourslef that approves the apartheid regime that is Israel.

These people had to fight their way to independence & the horrific regime of Dr Smith & his killing lists.

It has been the actions of the IMF that have driven Zimbabwe's economy onto the rocks.

[stevenaburton]

Some call for more sanctions, others for less. Personally, I support the struggle of Zimbabwe to emerge from their colonial past. Mugabe seems pretty inept and probably should be shown the door. Smith is long gone. The IMF thinks long term.

Arabs have full rights in Israel, including the right to vote. It is not an apartheid regime in any way. It is a free democracy, except for one exception, most (but not all) Arabs are denied the right to serve in the army for obvious reasons.

[pondman27]

You said it, "The IMF thinks long term" We see a world today where the money masters rule all. They reside at the core of the Black Alliance.

Please don't try to imply Israel is equal to all, what a crock. You cannot support this little claim with facts. Not apartheid, so the walls, the checkpoints are a figment of my imagination! Arabs do not hold proportionate powers. Sorry pal, I have researched the demographics, it is clearly apartheid & racist. Next you'll deny the Zionist labour movement.

[stevenaburton]

Welcome to capitalism.

Over a million Arabs live peacefully in Israel. Israeli Arabs absolutely have proportional power. Institutionally and legally Israel is neither apartheid nor racist. Checkpoints and walls are placed at the borders, not within in the country. Doesnt the UK have border control?

Although its true that many Jews (as opposed to Zionists) were initially leaders of the labour movement, this is not true today. In fact, many labour unions are as anti-Semitic as you are.

[pondman27]

Sanctions are war without guns, there is no other way to describe them.

"The IMF and World Bank structural adjustment plan(s) have precipitated food shortages in Zimbabwe, for which the ZANU-PF government is being blamed. These food shortages (read: famine) are part of the excuses used by the U.S. and EU to sanction Zimbabwe. Furthermore, the IMF and World Bank structural adjustment plan(s) devastated the economy of the South African country of Zimbabwe" Nathaniel Turner.

[pondman27]

So there we have it. A nation expells its former colonial masters in a bloody battle, it picks itself up only to be attacked by the international banksters. The EU &US apply further sanctions & now disease breaks out.

Ultimately the resources so sought after in Zimbabwe are highly coveted by those who lust for geological resources.

This is an ever repeating pattern & flies in the face of attaining peace.

[stevenaburton]

Not really, sanctions can be effective to make sure that authoritarian dictators don't get all their toys.

Zimbabwes cholera crisis, which has caused more than 1,900 deaths, is a manmade disaster caused by President Robert Mugabes government, January 13 report by Physicians for Human Rights.

[pondman27]

I will read the report from these people, but right at the beginning, a telltale sign appears straight out of the page. ANTHRAX appears. Now this little beauty is something I have past knowledge of. It may well be that after reading the report from this Cambridge based institution, I will be able to reveal more.

So in essence, what we should be doing is helping these people unconditionally. But no, the western interests who have long since marked Mugabe, will persist in their genocidal game.