Take That Progress Track-By-Track - Eight Letters

[tim1243uk]

what happened to Underground Machine? Did they not discuss it?

[huikuri]

LIsten Ultravox - Vienna, they got a piano sample from it to this song.

[TicTakTizzler1999]

Where is jason???

[griffeyjrfan]

This song makes me cry. It is beautiful, and knowing what it means to the members of the band makes it absolutely breathtaking.

[flower1997lol]

1:30 "it still does" awwwww hes jst amazing!

[1209Anja]

I liked Rob's version better...he sings it with so much more passion..it comes through brilliantly! 

[dexbabe]

@1209Anja It's funny, because while I agree that Robbie has more passion, Gary's 'simple' delivery makes it even sweeter for me. And I'm a Robbie fan first and foremost! :)

[katrin2801]

@dexbabe Arent U tired of writting the same stuff in all vids?

[MissTakeThattersback]

Awhhh *-* This is so deep, You really begin to understand there relationship and there story in this song and this interview *-* Love it !! xxx

[dingo79saddleclub]

the song is so amazing ♥ definitely should be a single =D id buy it again even though i already have the album

[biggag]

I'm glad they realised that, listening to the record, there's just not enough of Gary's vocals. The songs are good but if I wanted a Robbie Williams album I'd buy one and if I wanted a Mark Owen album I'd see a psychiatrist.

[mrtakethatter]

Next to The Flood, my favorite Progress song. You Brits are lucky to have as great a bunch of guys/entertainers as TT. This coming from a retired Texan living in California whose youngest "kids"(twin girls) are two years older than Howard. I had never heard of TT till Youtube search in 2009 showed they sang a song I just heard on radio,"Back for Good". I play at least a portion of my 3 TT DVDs daily and hope Robbie's genuine enthusiasm will allow him to blend in , not overpower.

[katarinka702]

ROB IS SO CUTE!!!

HE IS MY HERO!!!

[neyita84]

Hello everyone! Can somebody please just write the words they are saying on this parts:

Howard: 1:50 - 1:56

Mark: 2:15 - 3:15

Thank you very very muuuch!!!

(Just in love with them, I (L) TT!)



[ShellyCSI78]

@neyita84 Howard says "How did you come up with the "major vienna" bit?"

Mark tells the story about the song "eight letters" in the documentary: how Robbie and J "argued" about a particular line (referring to Robbie leaving the band in 1995) and how it seemed a big thing at that time... and after the record was done, they realised that something was missing... They found a solution: Gaz sings Rob's lyrics on "Eight letters" and the circle of Progress in done...

[saeidmomtahan]

Hii Robbie. Any chance of doing a concert in Iran?? You got a few fans here.

[silktwisteddagger]

There's no commentary for Underground Machine or Flowerbed? I understand that Flowerbed is the bonus song, but UM is in the main album!

[svu1234]

@silktwisteddagger Underground machine video is at end of happy now video all one piece.

[dingo79saddleclub]

@silktwisteddagger if you watch the Happy Now track by track, they do Underground Machine near the end :)

[MarcWeneppoar]

I'm with Mark; from all of their album they have made through the nineties and this time around (as a four piece), is always been about the sound of Gary's voice as Take That trade mark and we can't deny that fact. Now, in 'Progress', an album noted as a ‘different kind’, Gary is almost gone. “He’s there…” like Mark said, but no solo or even a specific lead vocal in any of those tracks. Finally, there’s ‘Eight letters’ cover lost soul of the band and keep them grounded.

[RolandDeschain1]

No video for 'Flowerbed'?

Okay...

[Krystal981]

eight letters is going to become my all time TT track fav. it's hard to say (I'm a thatter since I was 15 and now I'm 29) but this song is so complete...it's not just a love song, it's about life, inner feelings, moving beyond anger and lies and discovering respect and friendship...beside "nobody else", "another crack in my heart", "said it all" and "like I've never loved you at all" there is another great tune in my head. well done, lads :D

[lizbennetgenova]

@Krystal Me too. I add The Circus, Reach out & Here by TT's side (maybe I'd wait for life); Don't say no, One fine day, Better days, Often, I tried love, Killing me, AverageBside, Deceiving is believing, Stalker's day off"& others (in add to the ones expressly dedicated, like No Regrets & Misunderstood), by Rob's side. Most impressive to me he always refers to his 17 years (he was 16 when become a TT.. what's happened when he was 17?). Better days..brave lyrics. In fact, he NEVER sing this song.

[lizbennetgenova]

@Krystal981 I forgot to say I'm gonna cry every time I listen to Rob's Don't say no: "...And if we didn't keep in touch, I guess we didn't care that much, We never understood that stuff, But now I need you...I never meant to let you down, But lettin' you down was easy, Didn't it break your heart, Maybe I'm just too needy, Do any of you still need me, In your LIVES (in the plural), in your HEART (in the singular), Don't say yes just to please me". Sniffffffff so sweet.

[mrtakethatter]

Since Flowerbed is a beautiful song--sung well--Is there a logical reason it was not discussed?

[SuperSmasher1]

We all know Rob's voice has changed a lot over the years. But when he sang Eight Letters on the documentary I was blown away. It was like Angels. He had honestly hit the right part of his voice.

That said, you NEED a Gary ballad.

[brendawalsh9021o]

this doesn't make sense. it is Rob's story, Rob sang it better... it should have been Rob's version on the record!

there's no twist it's just silly to make it sing by Gary.

besides...this song made by Gary is boring and corny, made by Rob would have been special and edgy.

my 2 cents..

[lizbennetgenova]

@brenda 3 reasons: 1.Rob's voice broke up when he sang this song, 'cause he feels the lyrics too much, so I guess he prefers to let it sing to Gas; 2.part of the lyrics are 'bout Rob, not 'bout the whole band & Jay blamed him in the film for this, for his Ego, so probably he thought it's too much to sing it; 3.Gas sing it 'cause it's clearly their song. Pay attention to the lyrics & realize how much awkward Rob is on 3.15-3.19 as I wrote below.Rob made with 8L the same he did with 'Don't say no'

[dingo79saddleclub]

i like Rob's stripey socks :) this made me cry... i love the song, i love the lyrics and the melody. It is really beautiful ♥ Gary and rob did a good job.

[lizbennetgenova]

3.15 - 3.19 Rob lies..look at his face & look the way he looks to Gas to be supported. Rob was speaking 'bout himself & Gas in that lines - thing that Mark obviously realized - & Gas perfectly knows. Anyway, you can easily gather from the fact some part of the song are written in the plural (I can love you out of there), some in the singular (I tought I'd go before you leave me, my friend, the enemy). It's a shame Rob prefers to not tell it openly, I think it's so sweet. Anyway, great song.

[123shepshepshep]

my fave song on the album love it!

[lizbennetgenova]

I think it's so sweet Rob wrote it and Gas sang it, much more if we consider that some of the words are clearly dedicated to him. Love this honest song so much, as I do with Robbie's "Don't say no" lyirics. Now, I'd like to know something about the track Gary is singing in "Look back.." and is not included in Progress (will it be a b-side?). It seems to me written by Rob to Gas, 'cause of the words (staying at the few words we can hear) & 'cause of the particular intensity Gas puts into sing it.

[Tappystree]

I had the same perspective as Mark on this one after I saw the documentary and then Gary ended up singing Rob's words. Thought it was very poetic and cool.

Nice air hi five at the end there. :)

Too bad we don't get discussion on Flowerbed. There's a bit about it in the extras of the documentary though which is nice.

[dazmorland]

"Where's the sprinkle of platinum on this track" ha ha ha ha GB us a musical wizard end of!

On a more serious note, its really heart warming to see RW and GB respecting one another, and more importantly there music getting better and better! Unbelievable!

[supersezza]

poor jason! flowerbed is lovely!

[forgiveninasong]

I am actually weeping.

[crystalsmile]

Oh, and I personally think that they overdid it a bit in the production process. Too many bells and background sounds, I am more for pure ballads, everything else sounds so christmassy-sugar coaty, if you know what I mean.

[crystalsmile]

I like this whole idea of Gary singing Robbie's song and of course Gary deserves his own song but to be honest with you: I prefer the vocals that Robbie did that were shown on the documentary, it somehow felt more heartfelt. Which makes sense of course considering that it's a song that Rob wrote but I guess it's also personal taste, some people prefer Gary's voice, I prefer Rob's. Still a good song though. And please let there be a track by track on Flowerbed, that song is incredible!

[vickyg2006]

I love the way that Robbie looks at Gary. Looks at Mark too, but Gary.... Oh! It's unbelievable!

[Dadilu02]

and finally ..... My favourite song!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not just because Gary has always been my favourite TT but because My favourite TT sings beautiful words particularly meaning in this period x me and than so glad Robbie wrote that! hands down for all of you guys! I LOVE YOU - EIGHT LETTERS - THREE WORDS -ONE MEANING

[flyerscourtney49]

why is flowerbed a hidden track i thought the cd finished but the it started playing a song i only just found out its called flowerbed.so why aint u gonna talk about flower bed?????

luv u takethat!!!

[MrsRW]

best song of the album

[maryshelley21]

So there won't be any commentary on Flowerbed? I realise it's a hidden track but surely it would be worth hearing what the band thinks about it.

[SuperSmasher1]

I want an album of alternate versions.

The original version of Undergound Machine

Before Price changed it.

The rocky angry version of Affirmation

Before Price changed it.

The Robbie version of Eight Letters

Before the band changed it.

See, it's interesting. The ones Price touched up the most are the ones that the band feel less enthusiastic about, I wonder if the original versions are that much better.

[svu1234]

The guys make the point as to why this has to be Gary singing Bob's story - it completes the circle - High Five indeed

[maidenvoyage1]

@svu1234 agree 1,000%!! that's exactly what I thought about it too!!!

[JA4117]

@svu1234 Hi I totally agree they have gone round full circle, it's amazing to see how far they've all come, and I am enjoying listening to Progress, I think it's their best album they've done out of all of them so far.

[gabrielle13461]

I think it's great to hear Gary singing a song Robbie wrote. It used to be the other way round with 'Everything Changes'. Somehow the circle is now complete. Although I'm a fan of Gary, Rob sounded great on the documentary singing his own song. If he had sang this on the record it would have been great too. But I'm glad Gary had at least one strong lead vocal on the record. Love it. Icing on the cake!

[andie2728]

I need them to talk about Flowerbed!! I know it's the hidden track, but it's by far the best song on the album

[marctoar]

Oh... This track is absolutely beautiful. I don’t care who is better singing it, Robby or Gary. But it must be either of them who really know the story behind this particular lyric. I must say Robby did a great job on working out that lyric and Gary did a great job on singing it out loud. Voila, gorgeous indeed.

[Mima541]

You`re so right! I also think so

[REDRUMkostas]

robbie should perform eight letters!!!