Yes, the Jew Pipes had to spend considerable time brainwashing the "kindly" (aka demented) Reagan to the Jewish Paranoid View of Everything. Too bad we had a senile man in the presidency who would let these narcissistic paranoids have their way.
we should be worried about simple minded individuals that have come into power and feel that we the people should be controled according to their idea of a perfect world. Life is not perfect. And it is the imperfections and differences in each of us that make it worth living. we do not want to become carbon coppies of each other. individualisim is important to a free and beautiful life.
What I don't understand is if Zawahiri and his ilk believe the people are a legitimate target because they are so badly infected and are thus not Muslim, why do they always talk about the populations of nations, Egypt, Palestine, Somalia, Chechnya, Kashmir etc, as the 'Opressed Muslims' who they are 'Defending'.
As soon as people start speaking passionately about evil in the world, you have to remind yourself that you are about to be fooled by your central nervous system.
what a bunch of ball lickers. the fourth reich globalist militarized technocrat's ball licking filth... evil empire. veiled slime. power to the people. here's to freewill. we are the light and the way.
Islamphobia is the new movement of neo-conservatives in America but in the 50's it was Russia. Fear is the work of satan himself and Americans are being used and must turn away from their wicked ways of judging other nations which are compose of other believers of a monolethic god. Judge ye not lest ye be judged MATTHEW 7:1-5
Cont. One person can be the end of the world because his ideas and views created a movement in Egypt which lingered to other Arab Nations. American conservatives are behind this false notion of baring arms and labeling Iran as the enemy. Come a day very son World War III will take place and Russia is going to join in the fight behind North Korea, China, Venezuela and Cuba all because of false belief and misuse of the word of god and trusting your fellow man.
Cont. Neo-conservatism has been used namely by the Republican party and far right wing conservatives. These people are America’s worse enemy of preaching one thing and doing another. Russia didn’t have nuclear submarines and Iraq didn’t have nuclear war head then what the hell is wrong with the United States. Now we have an issue with Juhadist because of faith/purity because of a movement of what some exchange student saw in America in the 50’s.
We Americans have a problem because imagine how terrifying it is when a person comes from Arab nations and are introduced to broken Christian values. Everyone in America are big time sinners of the bible and can't see what the true meaning of life is. The United States is not utopia and neo-conservatives are not correct in false judgment of other nations. It’s disconcerting knowledge about faith and trust which America has not seemed to have stomached. Either you are of god or your not.
the neo conservatives thought that too much personal freedom was leading to the erosion of morals, so they lied and sponsored murder around the world in order to make us better people and hold our society together.
Why is it nonsense? Did you not listen to the documentary? In both cases, America and the Necons, Qutb and his subsequent followers, it illustrates that the role that leaders/thinkers can use myths to control a population of people to sustain society. Besides the 'war on terror' in its broad sense is the battle between these two ideologies so would argue they can easily be connected.
@chriscu You are stating the obvious. Your mistake is that you buy into the premise that the Jihadists are "leaders" rather than regressive ideologues. Furthermore, your characterization of the War or Terror to that of neo-cons versus Jihadists leaves out all the rationale, reasonable and liberal minded people, Christian/Muslim/secular that reject Islamic terrorism and want to stop them. The "war" should be called by its rightful name: War against Islamic terrorism.
@MattyJames25 Sorry ! There's nothing called Islamic terrorism !!!
The TERRORISM has NO RELIGION !!! THERE IS NO CHRISTIANIC TERRORISM OR JUIDAISM TERRORISM !!! There are only bad people commit CRIMES,MURDERS & DESTROYING to achieve their dirty goals in power, taking RULE of people & their false GLORY ! THE DISASTER is they claim they doing that in the the name of GOD ! GOD & his prophet are innocent from those people
@SuperMrTiger "Terrorists who kill in the name of Islam, and follow Islam, as a religion and who want to spread Islam around the world as a political ideology and who call themselves Islamic"... Sound better to you?
@SuperMrTiger Don't ask me, ask anyone who can read the Koran: see Sura 9:29
Hitler thought Jesus was the son of a Jewish whore, and Sharon is not using Judist doctrine for his actions. Muslim terrorists quote and implement Islamic teachings that have been used to justify warfare ever since its founder Muhammad (a warrior and a pedophile - look it up) beheaded Jews and instructed Islam to conqueror everywhere it could. Compare that to Jews saying, "turn the other cheek" and never once killing
I'm 29... so, this was before my time. I was against the war and Iraq... and, I literally got sick to my stomach when they said the 2 liars of this were Rumsfeld and Cheney... the same two fuckers that swore Iraq had WMD... This is proof: If we don't know history, we will be doomed to repeat it.
And this video reassures me that all Muslims should be killed in every nation on this world.
Muslims are psychopathic violent rapists murdering and mutilating their victims as a mass thug cult of death. At this moment, the Muslims as a culture have murdered 20 times more innocent human beings across the world than Hitler's Nazis (which the Muslims resemble IDENTICALLY in goals).
Why doesn't everyone believe what they want and let others do the same. Maybe we could just build a bunch of walls and everyone could go to their designated world. But of course give it a few years and those people would be fighting amongst themselves. That's why people should enjoy everyday and be happy as possible, cause some day very soon weather we do it or another power does it we'll all be gone.
Well, you must be an American then because your comment is incredibly ignorant. Your comment hints at the fact that Americans must be genetically less intelligent than other nationalities without taking into account the environmental influences that condition and indoctrinate them into being who they are. Which any race of humans would be victim to given the same conditioning. So in a sense they are "uneducated," but aren't necessarily to blame. YOUR comment is stupid and causes more division.
The world has always been a battle of control vs Spirit. These myths play out in reality.
If anyone is interested in this and how it all plays out, please read Joseph Campbell's The Hero with a Thousand Faces, and his acclaimed discovery of the 'Monomyth'.
"I don't know what people's motives are hardly ever. And I don't much worry about people's motives."
I'm not sure if that statement is more sad than it is frightening. These are the people who determine policies that literally murder tens of thousands of people? These are the guys who say how many humans, paid for by your and my tax dollars, can be murdered at a time?
That is fucking outstanding. Rumsfeld would, decades later, say the exact same thing: "There are known knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns." His argument for the invisible subs is exactly the same as his argument for invading Iraq. Isn't it funny how these things line up in hindsight? Isn't it also hilarious that the corporate news, with teams of paid researchers, never brought any of this up?
Good luck to us. These guys are still in power - yes, with Obama, they're still influential.
There are, as with all interpretations of "history", large gaps in what is being told. The only way to get a clearer idea is to examine it from as many angles as possible. This means taking different interpretations and comparing them. This is one interpretation of what happened. What other interpretations are there and how do they compare against each other? There is no way of knowing absolutely what happened, but you can get damned close if you search long and hard enough.
It was mostly the people vs the system. As with Islam, things are quite different. Even here in the West, Muslim women get murdered by their family because they want to marry a man they're in love with, not with their daddy's choice. Women coolly give up their daughters for the sake of their family's "honor". In Islamic schools, children are brainwashed with hate. The point of this doc is pretty much true for the Cold War, but much less for the current problem with Islam.
Don't you see? That's half the problem with it. I'm not saying Islam is bad, because people should be able to have any religious belief they want... The problem is that everyone tries to export their own beliefs onto everyone else. That's the problem with the US. They try to impose their politics onto the rest of the world. But as corruption, it can happen anywhere, anytime. The fact that people are followers of Islam doesn't change a thing.
I have a problem with this documentary comparing the USSR to the Islamic world. The Russians had a completely different relation to Communism than the Muslims have to Islam. People lived under C. yet it somehow went past them. They were not fanatic Commies and didn't hate the West, they envied it for its freedom and prosperity. Compared to Islam, their lives were pretty Western. People chose their spouses themselves, women had equal rights to men and were not murdered for adultery etc.
joe5db10 did you enter this solar system 1 day ago and found out that bbc is owned by fascists who pose themselves as government people in Britain? Hmmmmmm.....welcome to Earth!
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I don't see any explanation on Zawaheri's association with Qotob!!?? This documentary itself is based on fiction and myth. The degree of assumptions in the whole documentary outweighs the facts and proofs. I don't know about everyone else, but I am gonna stop watching this documentary right here :)
@Icix1 Nihilist.... The living standard of the great majority of people in Liberal-Democracies shows that there is a humane difference between "capitalist pigs" and the death-cult philosophy of the Jihadists: schemers are better restrained in the West.
Oh, are they? I think the recent financial crisis certainly deflates that hypothesis. We don't restrain any of our schemers, we just like to think we do. They go into other countries, enslave their populace in order for us to have cheap tennis shoes, and then go back to American and pretend like they're law abiding. No, we have much worse and terrible schemers in the West, they're just more subtle than the completely obvious jihadists.
Not true at all. We like to think we restrain our schemers, but really they rule us. They go to other countries and enslave the populace so we can have cheap tennis shoes, and then come back to America and pretend like they're law abiding. They crash our stock markets and ask for huge bailouts. No, our schemers are just more subtle. Harder to notice but far, far more deadly.
@Icix1 Ok, let's you and I go visit any immigration center in Europe or America and ask those fleeing from jihadi violence which society they feel is more humane. One system thrives on murder, pornographic and public torture, and intolerance of the worst kind while the other outsources low wage manufacturing jobs to developing countries. If you can't understand this basic point of difference between the two, then I have nothing further to say to you.
Oh, and we don't torture or have pornographic material? We're not intolerant? Don't pretend like we're so much better, we kill just as many people as those terrorists you loathe. We're just as bad, but we're far, far more arrogant. We think because we live under the guise of "freedom" that we're somehow vindicated to waterboard our citizens or drop a JDAM on a house. We kill innocents on a daily basis. We just won't let ourselves admit it. At least the jihadists are honest....
@Icix1 I clearly said "pornographic and public torture," not that we don't torture or have pornographic material - but of course this is perhaps too complicated for you. Furthermore you are morally warped to compare waterboarding of a select few prisoners arrested under suspected terrorist activities (which I don't agree with) to videotaped decapitations of adulterers - there is NO comparison, and again, just ask those running from the jihadists to our societies.
See it's your complete lack of knowledge of the shadiness of our government that is your greatest mistake. We don't just waterboard a few people, we beat the shit out of them, hang them by their wrists for days on end, refuse to give them food, deprive them of sleep, then repeatedly beat them to death. Hell I would rather have a public decapitation, at least it's honest and forthcoming.
@Icix1 Look, you obviously have yourself convinced. So your job now is to convince those who don't agree: the victims of jihadism & injustice who flood the shores of N. America & W. Europe daily.
Please, without delay, go down to the immigration offices and warn them all that they are making a fatal mistake in coming to our Western capitalist countries....
Quick, before it is too late!!!!!!!
You sound like a sad nihilist- it would do you good to actually travel and gain some perspective.
Lol don't be such a twat I never said "America sucks" or "Dont come here!"
I was merely saying that its arrogant to believe we're that much better than any one country or any one people. We do the same fucked up shit all around the world as humans being. Whether they be large governments or crazy jihadists the self righteous live on and the innocents suffer. Travel? I've been to 30+ countries around the world and I've seen innocent people beaten everywhere I go.
It's idiots like you that believe America is somehow more justified to do the terrible things we do. I've seen minorities get their face split open by French police and Indonesian MPs shooting at drunks. You know nothing about how the world truly works and clearly you've never been out of the country. America is a great place, but we are NO BETTER than any other place. We do the same shady fucked up shit that everyone else does. Stop being such a tool.
@Icix1 If you can't respond to what I have actually said, do not resort to putting words into my mouth. I never once said "America is somehow more justified to do the terrible things we do."
You preach moral equivalence- I simply and clearly said: the "schemers (thus admitting that there were in fact *gasp* bad Americans) are better restrained in the West" - there exists no such internal regulation in jihadist circles. Therein lies the difference, although apparently beyond your comprehension
Easily the stupidest thing I've heard in a while. Our corporations easily avoid the law at every turn. We have no control over the schemers in our society, just look at the present bailout situation. Billions of taxpayer dollars literally given to corrupt and self serving assholes. And if we make a law against it, they just go overseas. Our schemers kill bottling plant workers if they want higher wages. At least the jihadists are honest in their intentions lol.
I would have agreed if you had said they're more subtle, they certainly are. They're sneaky as fuck. But we control them no more than anyone else in the world does. Our corruption is terrible, and yet we like to trick ourselves into thinking its not. Out of sight, out of mind right?
@Icix1 Not at all... We control them in a way that is impossible for the Jihadists to control their violence (don't forget, we disapprove of our shortcomings, the Jihadists have no moral dilemma about killing and raping innocent people: it is state sanctioned in fact). The have no rule of law, we do. They have no regard for the life of those who disagree with them: Republicans do not kill Democrats for disagreeing on issues. Our politicians can be impeached and corrupt bankers imprisoned.
Right, but if we have the options to do all those things and fail to do them, how is that any better? And it's not like the jihadists don't have rules. They inflict punishment on child molesters and murderers, but just in a different way. in fact I would rather have pedos killed than rotting in prison. I guarantee just as many people get away with terrible things here as they do if Afghanistan, it's just we make a big show of catching our bad guys and Afghanis just kill him.
@Icix1 Fail to do them? You obviously do not read the news. Furthermore, Jihadists are by nature pedophiles- Muhammad's "favorite wife" Ayisa was only 9 when he "consummated" the marriage after being bewitched of her when she was 6 (he decently "waited"). That is why marriage at 9 is permitted in countries that follow Islam properly. And you are obviously in agreement with the neo-cons you despise in terms of capital punishment - I personally oppose the death penalty.
Lol god damnit you're so ignorant, how can you generalize on an entire fucking group of people, all with their own aspirations and goals without any knowledge on the subject? Talk about neo-con logic, that's what that is right there. You might as well say that every priest is a child molestor, it's that same terrible logic. Individual =/= group jackass. There are just as many pedophiles here as there are in Afghanistan....
@Icix1 "I guarantee just as many people get away with terrible things here as they do if Afghanistan" - this just shows how naive you really are. As President, Clinton "the world's powerful man," supposedly, couldn't even get a blowjob!
Do not insult the victims of jihadist violence who are raped and murdered in front of family members for not joining the "cause" by comparing the inhumane atrocities of Islamists to Tom Delay & his cronies.
Lol okay stop being such a tool, he did get a blowjob he just denied the entire thing. And just because you don't see the bad things we do doesn't mean they don't happen. We're just very good at hiding our terrible deeds to our own people. Also, we're just as responsible for death in Afghanistan as the jihadists. Why are you so stubborn to conclude that the USA can do no wrong? We bomb their houses, we kill them in their sleep...they would totally agree with me
You give Americans such a bad name...clearly just seeing the conflict from a Amerocentric viewpoint...there's so much blood on our hands but it's so easy to demonize the enemy. Those damn jihadists! Just evil child molestors! It couldn't be that we continually fuck with the middle east for the last 50 years. Then when arabs get mad and start killing Americans everyone cannot understand what the fuck is going on. You clearly only get your information from super mainstream sources.
@Icix1 We do not bomb civilians intentionally, and most, not all, but most Afghanis know that: they aren't as primitive as you make them out to be.
But again, you need only talk to refuges from around the world who flood to the West for better lives: you cannot smear this fact, no matter how dysfunctional your logic is. You insult the victims of jihadist violence with such flawed morality.
@MattyJames25 The difference between us and you is very clear ! you are full of hatred,envy,animosity and malevolence that you insult our prophet peace be upon him while we MUSLIMS love and believe in JESUS peace be upon him as a prophet of GOD & OUR MISTRESS MARY peace be upon her is THE MISTRESS OF ALL WOMEN OF THE WORLD OF ALL TIMES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE HISTORY
@SuperMrTiger Sura 5:51 - "take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors". A beautiful passage straight out of the Koran- the book your warrior and pedophile prophet says was the "final word" of God.
@MattyJames25 You need to check which translation you are quoting. I've noticed that the Wahabi (ie. Saudi) versions of the Koran translate certain words from Arabic to "Jews" or "Christian" completely out of context. It's a dirty game these religions.
@MattyJames25 - cant take you guys as friends because you follow your own desires, dont fear God and you will lead us to hell fire, so why would i want you as a friend especially when I'm told not to drink alcohol and you say dont worry Jesus died for our sins. see the conflict? id rather stone you, you damn breaker of the first commandment!!!!!!!
@MattyJames25 Just as there is different branches of Christianity so is it of Muslims. Some are more extreme than the other like Westboro Baptist Church a clear example and so many others far right wing conservative groups. Jahidist is another form of Muslim movement which have rewrote a version of the Quran in their views. We could say the same thing about the Jehovahs Witness, Mormans and The Church of Scientology.
@zjones1222 Of course there are major Islamic divisions; this is not in question. Though Shias are generally more dogmatic, Wahhabism comes out of the Sunni branch- but Jihadism is doctrinally available to all...
On the other hand, Jehovah's Witnesses are devoutly pacifistic, Mormons would rather lobby for anti-gay rights than kill non-believers & Scientologists I need not even say... The extremist right-wing Christians in the US do not harbor global domination under a Christian theocracy.
@MattyJames25 Islam doesn't go door to door and hand out pamphlets and quote bible scripture. In fact, Islam never pilgrimage to other reaches of the earth in converting non-believers. Christian crusade covers the world preaching an ideology of the coming of the Christ. Islam is very much centralized in the Middle East there’s no doubt about it. Most people that convert to Islam do so at their own choosing. The individual converts to Islam or a form of it at his or her own doing.
@zjones1222 I took you seriously until you said that Islam doesn't prosthelytize.
Most people who convert to Christianity also do so because of their own choosing; the point of difference in the comparative histories was that those who converted to Islam bought into the dominant religion of the establishment (and reaped the benefits that come with that) whereas Christians converted to a marginalized faith and suffered for hundreds of years: one is more historically genuine than the other.
@MattyJames25 2:191 And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
@MattyJames25 2:191 And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
In fact that's one of the greatest things wrong with America...we kill people without even thinking about it and then a president gets a blowjob and everyone has a freak out. We go over to other countries and kill people for trying to unionize. We torture them, take their land, exploit their resources. Then we come back home and talk about how awesome we are. Out of sight, out of mind.
I think it's all about media exposure. Every time a large corruption case gets brought up its paraded around by the government as a show of force to try and convince people that we have these problems under control. But really for every one we catch there are so many that go free that it doesn't really matter. Same rules apply elsewhere. But in other countries it's not as big of a deal. They get taken out back and get their brains blown out, and thats that.
We're not any better, that's why you're an idiot. We're just more arrogant. We kill innocents, torture the young, bomb the world and come home to a land espousing "freedom". We're just as bad as the terrorists you hate, but we've brainwashed ourselves into thinking we're somehow the good guys. Oh and I'm sure by "low wage" you meant "veritable slavery". Our companies rape and pillage the world worse than any terrorists has ever done and yet we're so self righteous...makes me sick
Yes, the Jew Pipes had to spend considerable time brainwashing the "kindly" (aka demented) Reagan to the Jewish Paranoid View of Everything. Too bad we had a senile man in the presidency who would let these narcissistic paranoids have their way.
TheGoyChannel 1 month ago
19:23 - It's time for God's people to come out of the closet LOL...I concur
psynema 3 months ago
The idea, that total freedom might not be all that great, as we in western countries think about it, is interesting.
For example, we don't give aour children total freedom, but instead, we rise them with some necessary rules.
wasistdaswasdasist 3 months ago
@wasistdaswasdasist ...but I am not your child, and no politician is my father
doesmykeyboardwork 2 months ago
and no one word about Jew
batalion666 3 months ago
we should be worried about simple minded individuals that have come into power and feel that we the people should be controled according to their idea of a perfect world. Life is not perfect. And it is the imperfections and differences in each of us that make it worth living. we do not want to become carbon coppies of each other. individualisim is important to a free and beautiful life.
DiannaGalando 3 months ago
instead of killing.. why don't you re-educate them?
I understand that by killing, that's a shock education/awakening. But... you also legitimize a nasty backlash.
ntnima 5 months ago
@Xinoutorah watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A
This makes it even more funny :D
FredrikTillett 6 months ago
Jeezus, don't vote at all. It's like believing that the WWE is for real. The match is always already decided before it begins..
spartonabca 7 months ago
What I don't understand is if Zawahiri and his ilk believe the people are a legitimate target because they are so badly infected and are thus not Muslim, why do they always talk about the populations of nations, Egypt, Palestine, Somalia, Chechnya, Kashmir etc, as the 'Opressed Muslims' who they are 'Defending'.
doyoureallythinkso 7 months ago
As soon as people start speaking passionately about evil in the world, you have to remind yourself that you are about to be fooled by your central nervous system.
Jcolinsol 8 months ago
26:52 Libya 2011 sounds familiar anyone?
ronmorris88 10 months ago 3
they began to believe their own fiction welcome in the orwellian nightmare
vote libertairian
whhyyyyyyyyyy 10 months ago
@whhyyyyyyyyyy Here HERE! I second your motion...RON PAUL 2012
29render 10 months ago
theatre. all fu**ing MASONS, y'all!... they are one ideology! and their masters are coming back... with a little haarp, from their friends...
the light sees through you fu**ers... right thru you... you WILL fail. love will prevail.
thepofmeister 11 months ago
what a bunch of ball lickers. the fourth reich globalist militarized technocrat's ball licking filth... evil empire. veiled slime. power to the people. here's to freewill. we are the light and the way.
thepofmeister 11 months ago
22:25 onwards is the most dangerously scheming and paranoid thing I think I've ever heard....
Silverminkie 1 year ago
Great documentary! Too bad the Egyptians didn't kill Al Zawhari right there and then.
oudmontage 1 year ago
"I don't much worry about motives."
Thats gold!!
NOCOBasketball 1 year ago
Donald Rumsfeld has some bad luck finding weapons.
BlessedHellride009 1 year ago 19
take your bible quotes elsewhere nigger
cunt3d 1 year ago
Islamphobia is the new movement of neo-conservatives in America but in the 50's it was Russia. Fear is the work of satan himself and Americans are being used and must turn away from their wicked ways of judging other nations which are compose of other believers of a monolethic god. Judge ye not lest ye be judged MATTHEW 7:1-5
zjones1222 1 year ago 2
Cont. One person can be the end of the world because his ideas and views created a movement in Egypt which lingered to other Arab Nations. American conservatives are behind this false notion of baring arms and labeling Iran as the enemy. Come a day very son World War III will take place and Russia is going to join in the fight behind North Korea, China, Venezuela and Cuba all because of false belief and misuse of the word of god and trusting your fellow man.
zjones1222 1 year ago
Cont. Neo-conservatism has been used namely by the Republican party and far right wing conservatives. These people are America’s worse enemy of preaching one thing and doing another. Russia didn’t have nuclear submarines and Iraq didn’t have nuclear war head then what the hell is wrong with the United States. Now we have an issue with Juhadist because of faith/purity because of a movement of what some exchange student saw in America in the 50’s.
zjones1222 1 year ago
We Americans have a problem because imagine how terrifying it is when a person comes from Arab nations and are introduced to broken Christian values. Everyone in America are big time sinners of the bible and can't see what the true meaning of life is. The United States is not utopia and neo-conservatives are not correct in false judgment of other nations. It’s disconcerting knowledge about faith and trust which America has not seemed to have stomached. Either you are of god or your not.
zjones1222 1 year ago
1981. Its fine to tell Gods people out of the closet. 2010. Everyone has lol
thomasmoonman 1 year ago
Christians, Jews and Muslims. The three most evil ideologies known to man. They make the nazis look like amatures.
Freshhhhh1982 1 year ago
so, let me get this right.
the neo conservatives thought that too much personal freedom was leading to the erosion of morals, so they lied and sponsored murder around the world in order to make us better people and hold our society together.
it's not working!
god save us all from our leaders!! dayum!
OnderRoseExperience 1 year ago 2
Equating Neo-Cons (as hideous as they are) with Islamic terrorists is moral bunk.
MattyJames25 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
Why is it nonsense? Did you not listen to the documentary? In both cases, America and the Necons, Qutb and his subsequent followers, it illustrates that the role that leaders/thinkers can use myths to control a population of people to sustain society. Besides the 'war on terror' in its broad sense is the battle between these two ideologies so would argue they can easily be connected.
chriscu 1 year ago
@chriscu You are stating the obvious. Your mistake is that you buy into the premise that the Jihadists are "leaders" rather than regressive ideologues. Furthermore, your characterization of the War or Terror to that of neo-cons versus Jihadists leaves out all the rationale, reasonable and liberal minded people, Christian/Muslim/secular that reject Islamic terrorism and want to stop them. The "war" should be called by its rightful name: War against Islamic terrorism.
MattyJames25 1 year ago
@MattyJames25 Sorry ! There's nothing called Islamic terrorism !!!
The TERRORISM has NO RELIGION !!! THERE IS NO CHRISTIANIC TERRORISM OR JUIDAISM TERRORISM !!! There are only bad people commit CRIMES,MURDERS & DESTROYING to achieve their dirty goals in power, taking RULE of people & their false GLORY ! THE DISASTER is they claim they doing that in the the name of GOD ! GOD & his prophet are innocent from those people
SuperMrTiger 1 year ago
@SuperMrTiger "Terrorists who kill in the name of Islam, and follow Islam, as a religion and who want to spread Islam around the world as a political ideology and who call themselves Islamic"... Sound better to you?
MattyJames25 1 year ago
@MattyJames25 And you believe that those ugly terrorists are representing Islam !!!
Please, let me ask you some questions !!!
Did Hitler & NAZIS represent Christianity ?!!
Did Sharon & Israeli's CRIMES represent Judaism ?!!
So, Did Bin laden & his followers represent Islam ?!!!!!
SuperMrTiger 1 year ago
@SuperMrTiger Don't ask me, ask anyone who can read the Koran: see Sura 9:29
Hitler thought Jesus was the son of a Jewish whore, and Sharon is not using Judist doctrine for his actions. Muslim terrorists quote and implement Islamic teachings that have been used to justify warfare ever since its founder Muhammad (a warrior and a pedophile - look it up) beheaded Jews and instructed Islam to conqueror everywhere it could. Compare that to Jews saying, "turn the other cheek" and never once killing
MattyJames25 1 year ago
I'm 29... so, this was before my time. I was against the war and Iraq... and, I literally got sick to my stomach when they said the 2 liars of this were Rumsfeld and Cheney... the same two fuckers that swore Iraq had WMD... This is proof: If we don't know history, we will be doomed to repeat it.
SquireCD 1 year ago 2
It's like Cap&Trade, it's all about power and control
MajorBuckSnort 1 year ago
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And this video reassures me that all Muslims should be killed in every nation on this world.
Muslims are psychopathic violent rapists murdering and mutilating their victims as a mass thug cult of death. At this moment, the Muslims as a culture have murdered 20 times more innocent human beings across the world than Hitler's Nazis (which the Muslims resemble IDENTICALLY in goals).
Matrix29bear 2 years ago
... and you're an unsympathic, unempathic biggot.
icopea 2 years ago 2
second that
syarnold 1 year ago
@17:23 anyone know who this dude is? He rocks the eff out. I wish dudes rocked cowboy hats at my church when I was a kid.
Exoteric01 2 years ago
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Neoconservative Read Treacherous face of American Jewery. Every face is jew, leo strauss, William kristal, paul wolf, reachard perl, liddy, so many.
appatel 2 years ago
hmmm weapons of mass destruction...fool me once shame on you...fool me twice...
Xinoutorah 2 years ago 7
I am SO glad these sick neocon fucks will never have power again.
TheCaptainLulz 2 years ago
ONe can only hope.
Exoteric01 2 years ago 3
They will mutate into something else and come back.
LordBifford 1 year ago
Why doesn't everyone believe what they want and let others do the same. Maybe we could just build a bunch of walls and everyone could go to their designated world. But of course give it a few years and those people would be fighting amongst themselves. That's why people should enjoy everyday and be happy as possible, cause some day very soon weather we do it or another power does it we'll all be gone.
greatgregmurf 2 years ago
the world is a wonderful place,...if....
witecracker2 2 years ago
americans are extremely stupid
mrfatd 2 years ago 2
Well, you must be an American then because your comment is incredibly ignorant. Your comment hints at the fact that Americans must be genetically less intelligent than other nationalities without taking into account the environmental influences that condition and indoctrinate them into being who they are. Which any race of humans would be victim to given the same conditioning. So in a sense they are "uneducated," but aren't necessarily to blame. YOUR comment is stupid and causes more division.
0murdock0 2 years ago
The world has always been a battle of control vs Spirit. These myths play out in reality.
If anyone is interested in this and how it all plays out, please read Joseph Campbell's The Hero with a Thousand Faces, and his acclaimed discovery of the 'Monomyth'.
dimitraeus202 2 years ago
"I don't know what people's motives are hardly ever. And I don't much worry about people's motives."
I'm not sure if that statement is more sad than it is frightening. These are the people who determine policies that literally murder tens of thousands of people? These are the guys who say how many humans, paid for by your and my tax dollars, can be murdered at a time?
God help us.
Peace.
bobbygnosis 2 years ago 2
That is fucking outstanding. Rumsfeld would, decades later, say the exact same thing: "There are known knowns, known unknowns and unknown unknowns." His argument for the invisible subs is exactly the same as his argument for invading Iraq. Isn't it funny how these things line up in hindsight? Isn't it also hilarious that the corporate news, with teams of paid researchers, never brought any of this up?
Good luck to us. These guys are still in power - yes, with Obama, they're still influential.
bobbygnosis 2 years ago 3
I thought the CIA staged a coup against Sadat?
hogger129 2 years ago
There are, as with all interpretations of "history", large gaps in what is being told. The only way to get a clearer idea is to examine it from as many angles as possible. This means taking different interpretations and comparing them. This is one interpretation of what happened. What other interpretations are there and how do they compare against each other? There is no way of knowing absolutely what happened, but you can get damned close if you search long and hard enough.
bobbygnosis 2 years ago 3
The world is a scarey place, but at least Arrested Development is on BBC2 next.
nevinrobinson 2 years ago 5
It was mostly the people vs the system. As with Islam, things are quite different. Even here in the West, Muslim women get murdered by their family because they want to marry a man they're in love with, not with their daddy's choice. Women coolly give up their daughters for the sake of their family's "honor". In Islamic schools, children are brainwashed with hate. The point of this doc is pretty much true for the Cold War, but much less for the current problem with Islam.
ChristinaNL89 2 years ago
Don't you see? That's half the problem with it. I'm not saying Islam is bad, because people should be able to have any religious belief they want... The problem is that everyone tries to export their own beliefs onto everyone else. That's the problem with the US. They try to impose their politics onto the rest of the world. But as corruption, it can happen anywhere, anytime. The fact that people are followers of Islam doesn't change a thing.
hogger129 2 years ago
I have a problem with this documentary comparing the USSR to the Islamic world. The Russians had a completely different relation to Communism than the Muslims have to Islam. People lived under C. yet it somehow went past them. They were not fanatic Commies and didn't hate the West, they envied it for its freedom and prosperity. Compared to Islam, their lives were pretty Western. People chose their spouses themselves, women had equal rights to men and were not murdered for adultery etc.
ChristinaNL89 2 years ago
Definitely terror is the new tool of the governments, just as its happening right now in Mexico.
chichobal 2 years ago 3
Is this guy Jewish ? ... All US presidents have Jewish advisors ...
Anomiman 2 years ago 2
joe5db10 did you enter this solar system 1 day ago and found out that bbc is owned by fascists who pose themselves as government people in Britain? Hmmmmmm.....welcome to Earth!
Yatukih001 2 years ago
arent bbc owned by the gov?
and they produced this vid?
are these all lies then.....
joe5dbl0 2 years ago
"arent bbc owned by the gov?"
hope this ^ is a joke...
westwood63 2 years ago
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i dont see the joke
joe5dbl0 2 years ago
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I don't see any explanation on Zawaheri's association with Qotob!!?? This documentary itself is based on fiction and myth. The degree of assumptions in the whole documentary outweighs the facts and proofs. I don't know about everyone else, but I am gonna stop watching this documentary right here :)
razever 2 years ago
One of the few times I have ever seen the CIA portrayed in a positive light. Very interesting and eye opening.
cf80to01 2 years ago 3
that was a long time ago...
witecracker2 2 years ago
brilliant documentary
swisscottagelondon 3 years ago 39
extremely insightful
yoitsgiook 2 years ago 4
Everyone's a schemer, from capitalist pigs to insane Jihadists. No one wins but everyone loses.
Icix1 3 years ago 30
@Icix1 Nihilist.... The living standard of the great majority of people in Liberal-Democracies shows that there is a humane difference between "capitalist pigs" and the death-cult philosophy of the Jihadists: schemers are better restrained in the West.
MattyJames25 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
Oh, are they? I think the recent financial crisis certainly deflates that hypothesis. We don't restrain any of our schemers, we just like to think we do. They go into other countries, enslave their populace in order for us to have cheap tennis shoes, and then go back to American and pretend like they're law abiding. No, we have much worse and terrible schemers in the West, they're just more subtle than the completely obvious jihadists.
Icix1 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
Not true at all. We like to think we restrain our schemers, but really they rule us. They go to other countries and enslave the populace so we can have cheap tennis shoes, and then come back to America and pretend like they're law abiding. They crash our stock markets and ask for huge bailouts. No, our schemers are just more subtle. Harder to notice but far, far more deadly.
Icix1 1 year ago
@Icix1 Ok, let's you and I go visit any immigration center in Europe or America and ask those fleeing from jihadi violence which society they feel is more humane. One system thrives on murder, pornographic and public torture, and intolerance of the worst kind while the other outsources low wage manufacturing jobs to developing countries. If you can't understand this basic point of difference between the two, then I have nothing further to say to you.
MattyJames25 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
Oh, and we don't torture or have pornographic material? We're not intolerant? Don't pretend like we're so much better, we kill just as many people as those terrorists you loathe. We're just as bad, but we're far, far more arrogant. We think because we live under the guise of "freedom" that we're somehow vindicated to waterboard our citizens or drop a JDAM on a house. We kill innocents on a daily basis. We just won't let ourselves admit it. At least the jihadists are honest....
Icix1 1 year ago
@Icix1 I clearly said "pornographic and public torture," not that we don't torture or have pornographic material - but of course this is perhaps too complicated for you. Furthermore you are morally warped to compare waterboarding of a select few prisoners arrested under suspected terrorist activities (which I don't agree with) to videotaped decapitations of adulterers - there is NO comparison, and again, just ask those running from the jihadists to our societies.
MattyJames25 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
See it's your complete lack of knowledge of the shadiness of our government that is your greatest mistake. We don't just waterboard a few people, we beat the shit out of them, hang them by their wrists for days on end, refuse to give them food, deprive them of sleep, then repeatedly beat them to death. Hell I would rather have a public decapitation, at least it's honest and forthcoming.
Icix1 1 year ago
@Icix1 Look, you obviously have yourself convinced. So your job now is to convince those who don't agree: the victims of jihadism & injustice who flood the shores of N. America & W. Europe daily.
Please, without delay, go down to the immigration offices and warn them all that they are making a fatal mistake in coming to our Western capitalist countries....
Quick, before it is too late!!!!!!!
You sound like a sad nihilist- it would do you good to actually travel and gain some perspective.
MattyJames25 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
Lol don't be such a twat I never said "America sucks" or "Dont come here!"
I was merely saying that its arrogant to believe we're that much better than any one country or any one people. We do the same fucked up shit all around the world as humans being. Whether they be large governments or crazy jihadists the self righteous live on and the innocents suffer. Travel? I've been to 30+ countries around the world and I've seen innocent people beaten everywhere I go.
Icix1 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
It's idiots like you that believe America is somehow more justified to do the terrible things we do. I've seen minorities get their face split open by French police and Indonesian MPs shooting at drunks. You know nothing about how the world truly works and clearly you've never been out of the country. America is a great place, but we are NO BETTER than any other place. We do the same shady fucked up shit that everyone else does. Stop being such a tool.
Icix1 1 year ago
@Icix1 If you can't respond to what I have actually said, do not resort to putting words into my mouth. I never once said "America is somehow more justified to do the terrible things we do."
You preach moral equivalence- I simply and clearly said: the "schemers (thus admitting that there were in fact *gasp* bad Americans) are better restrained in the West" - there exists no such internal regulation in jihadist circles. Therein lies the difference, although apparently beyond your comprehension
MattyJames25 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
Easily the stupidest thing I've heard in a while. Our corporations easily avoid the law at every turn. We have no control over the schemers in our society, just look at the present bailout situation. Billions of taxpayer dollars literally given to corrupt and self serving assholes. And if we make a law against it, they just go overseas. Our schemers kill bottling plant workers if they want higher wages. At least the jihadists are honest in their intentions lol.
Icix1 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
I would have agreed if you had said they're more subtle, they certainly are. They're sneaky as fuck. But we control them no more than anyone else in the world does. Our corruption is terrible, and yet we like to trick ourselves into thinking its not. Out of sight, out of mind right?
Icix1 1 year ago
@Icix1 Not at all... We control them in a way that is impossible for the Jihadists to control their violence (don't forget, we disapprove of our shortcomings, the Jihadists have no moral dilemma about killing and raping innocent people: it is state sanctioned in fact). The have no rule of law, we do. They have no regard for the life of those who disagree with them: Republicans do not kill Democrats for disagreeing on issues. Our politicians can be impeached and corrupt bankers imprisoned.
MattyJames25 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
Right, but if we have the options to do all those things and fail to do them, how is that any better? And it's not like the jihadists don't have rules. They inflict punishment on child molesters and murderers, but just in a different way. in fact I would rather have pedos killed than rotting in prison. I guarantee just as many people get away with terrible things here as they do if Afghanistan, it's just we make a big show of catching our bad guys and Afghanis just kill him.
Icix1 1 year ago
@Icix1 Fail to do them? You obviously do not read the news. Furthermore, Jihadists are by nature pedophiles- Muhammad's "favorite wife" Ayisa was only 9 when he "consummated" the marriage after being bewitched of her when she was 6 (he decently "waited"). That is why marriage at 9 is permitted in countries that follow Islam properly. And you are obviously in agreement with the neo-cons you despise in terms of capital punishment - I personally oppose the death penalty.
MattyJames25 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
Lol god damnit you're so ignorant, how can you generalize on an entire fucking group of people, all with their own aspirations and goals without any knowledge on the subject? Talk about neo-con logic, that's what that is right there. You might as well say that every priest is a child molestor, it's that same terrible logic. Individual =/= group jackass. There are just as many pedophiles here as there are in Afghanistan....
Icix1 1 year ago
@Icix1 "I guarantee just as many people get away with terrible things here as they do if Afghanistan" - this just shows how naive you really are. As President, Clinton "the world's powerful man," supposedly, couldn't even get a blowjob!
Do not insult the victims of jihadist violence who are raped and murdered in front of family members for not joining the "cause" by comparing the inhumane atrocities of Islamists to Tom Delay & his cronies.
NO victim in Afghanistan would agree with you.
MattyJames25 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
Lol okay stop being such a tool, he did get a blowjob he just denied the entire thing. And just because you don't see the bad things we do doesn't mean they don't happen. We're just very good at hiding our terrible deeds to our own people. Also, we're just as responsible for death in Afghanistan as the jihadists. Why are you so stubborn to conclude that the USA can do no wrong? We bomb their houses, we kill them in their sleep...they would totally agree with me
Icix1 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
You give Americans such a bad name...clearly just seeing the conflict from a Amerocentric viewpoint...there's so much blood on our hands but it's so easy to demonize the enemy. Those damn jihadists! Just evil child molestors! It couldn't be that we continually fuck with the middle east for the last 50 years. Then when arabs get mad and start killing Americans everyone cannot understand what the fuck is going on. You clearly only get your information from super mainstream sources.
Icix1 1 year ago
@Icix1 We do not bomb civilians intentionally, and most, not all, but most Afghanis know that: they aren't as primitive as you make them out to be.
But again, you need only talk to refuges from around the world who flood to the West for better lives: you cannot smear this fact, no matter how dysfunctional your logic is. You insult the victims of jihadist violence with such flawed morality.
MattyJames25 1 year ago
@MattyJames25 The difference between us and you is very clear ! you are full of hatred,envy,animosity and malevolence that you insult our prophet peace be upon him while we MUSLIMS love and believe in JESUS peace be upon him as a prophet of GOD & OUR MISTRESS MARY peace be upon her is THE MISTRESS OF ALL WOMEN OF THE WORLD OF ALL TIMES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE HISTORY
SuperMrTiger 1 year ago
@MattyJames25 I'll let you with translated versus of the HOLY QURAN
read them very well & I dare you if you found something about Terrorism or stupid something that isn't exist except in your corrupted minds !!! :D
here we are : IN THE NAME OF GOD ( ALLAH )
2:190 Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors
SuperMrTiger 1 year ago
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@SuperMrTiger Sura 5:51 - "take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors". A beautiful passage straight out of the Koran- the book your warrior and pedophile prophet says was the "final word" of God.
Don't you have some woman to stone somewhere?
MattyJames25 1 year ago
@MattyJames25 You need to check which translation you are quoting. I've noticed that the Wahabi (ie. Saudi) versions of the Koran translate certain words from Arabic to "Jews" or "Christian" completely out of context. It's a dirty game these religions.
ibrahimtamerm 1 year ago
@MattyJames25 - cant take you guys as friends because you follow your own desires, dont fear God and you will lead us to hell fire, so why would i want you as a friend especially when I'm told not to drink alcohol and you say dont worry Jesus died for our sins. see the conflict? id rather stone you, you damn breaker of the first commandment!!!!!!!
LIVfor1 1 year ago
@MattyJames25 Just as there is different branches of Christianity so is it of Muslims. Some are more extreme than the other like Westboro Baptist Church a clear example and so many others far right wing conservative groups. Jahidist is another form of Muslim movement which have rewrote a version of the Quran in their views. We could say the same thing about the Jehovahs Witness, Mormans and The Church of Scientology.
zjones1222 1 year ago
@zjones1222 Of course there are major Islamic divisions; this is not in question. Though Shias are generally more dogmatic, Wahhabism comes out of the Sunni branch- but Jihadism is doctrinally available to all...
On the other hand, Jehovah's Witnesses are devoutly pacifistic, Mormons would rather lobby for anti-gay rights than kill non-believers & Scientologists I need not even say... The extremist right-wing Christians in the US do not harbor global domination under a Christian theocracy.
MattyJames25 1 year ago
@MattyJames25 Islam doesn't go door to door and hand out pamphlets and quote bible scripture. In fact, Islam never pilgrimage to other reaches of the earth in converting non-believers. Christian crusade covers the world preaching an ideology of the coming of the Christ. Islam is very much centralized in the Middle East there’s no doubt about it. Most people that convert to Islam do so at their own choosing. The individual converts to Islam or a form of it at his or her own doing.
zjones1222 1 year ago
@zjones1222 I took you seriously until you said that Islam doesn't prosthelytize.
Most people who convert to Christianity also do so because of their own choosing; the point of difference in the comparative histories was that those who converted to Islam bought into the dominant religion of the establishment (and reaped the benefits that come with that) whereas Christians converted to a marginalized faith and suffered for hundreds of years: one is more historically genuine than the other.
MattyJames25 1 year ago
@MattyJames25 No
zjones1222 1 year ago
@zjones1222 Oh I guess you forgot about the fact that 75% of the Christian world was occupied by the Muslims when the crusades began?
HelenaXVI 1 year ago
@HelenaXVI Not going there
zjones1222 1 year ago
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@MattyJames25 2:191 And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
SuperMrTiger 1 year ago
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@MattyJames25 2:191 And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
SuperMrTiger 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
In fact that's one of the greatest things wrong with America...we kill people without even thinking about it and then a president gets a blowjob and everyone has a freak out. We go over to other countries and kill people for trying to unionize. We torture them, take their land, exploit their resources. Then we come back home and talk about how awesome we are. Out of sight, out of mind.
Icix1 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
I think it's all about media exposure. Every time a large corruption case gets brought up its paraded around by the government as a show of force to try and convince people that we have these problems under control. But really for every one we catch there are so many that go free that it doesn't really matter. Same rules apply elsewhere. But in other countries it's not as big of a deal. They get taken out back and get their brains blown out, and thats that.
Icix1 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
And that, my brain dead inept friend, is what this documentary is all about.
Icix1 1 year ago
@MattyJames25
We're not any better, that's why you're an idiot. We're just more arrogant. We kill innocents, torture the young, bomb the world and come home to a land espousing "freedom". We're just as bad as the terrorists you hate, but we've brainwashed ourselves into thinking we're somehow the good guys. Oh and I'm sure by "low wage" you meant "veritable slavery". Our companies rape and pillage the world worse than any terrorists has ever done and yet we're so self righteous...makes me sick
Icix1 1 year ago
@Icix1 love the comment!
d3tach3d 1 year ago
dr ayman never held the beliefs that are being attributed to him
Knight00087 3 years ago
so many lies and misconceptions
Knight00087 3 years ago