Tuve la dicha de conocer a muchos de estos jovenes en sus inicios, mientras me desempeñaba como Ayudante de la Primera dama en los alrededores del año 2000 - 2001. Cada vez que veo o escucho esta euforia con sus interpretaciones me hincho de emoción, Siempre es gratificante saber de sus éxitos y espero sigan cosechando triunfos. en especial con esa noble labor social que ejercen. DIOS LOS BENDIGA¡¡¡¡¡...VENEZUELA, SIEMPRE VENEZUELA¡¡¡¡
hola soy del estado zulia sou tubista tengo 4 años de conocimiento del instrumento pero lo q mas q anhelo en este mundo es llegar a tocar en esa prestigiosa orquesta q es el orgullo venezolano tengo 19 años de edad y quisiera formar parte de la ORQUESTA SIMON BOLIVAR. "DUDAMEL AQUI TIENES OTRO TUBISTA MAS SOLAMENTE DAME LA OPRTUNIDAD" SOY EGRESADO DE LA BANDA SHOW RAFAEL URDANETA"
SOY DE ESPAÑA estudio musica desde hace 12 años i DUDAMEL me parece absoñutamente increible, creo k llegara a ser de los mejores de la historia VIVA DUDAMEL!!!! ESpero verte en valencia
bravo los felicitos muchachos soy antonio no me conocen pero toco en la orquesta juvenil del zulia tengo 11 años toco el violin pero ese concierto fué muy espectacular sigan asi
¿Acaso hay duda? esto es Venezuela, es su gente, es lo que somos aqui en Sur America y en el mundo, somos vida, somos juventud, somos revolucion... simplemente somos venezolanos. N.Prieto. y pa ti Dudamel, mil bendiciones... te admiro!
Cuánta razón tienes. Si todo sale bien, en 2008 conoceré tu hermoso país. Tengo un gran amigo tocando en esta orquesta y los escuché personalmente cuando vinieron a Argentina. Guardo con mucho recuerdo la chaqueta que me regalaron.
Venezuela it's not under the equator line, we are the northest part of South America, and our orquestra is one of the bests in the whole world... thanks to the effort of those kids and Gustavo Dudamel, thanks to all of you who enjoy this sounds
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Why is it I sense somewhere the assumption that these performers lack of the general culture necessary to play as magnificently as they do?
Is it because they were born below the line of the Equator? Will the critic be the same if these kids played as they do, but were born, say in England, France, Italy, Austria, Russia? I wonder...
I strongly believe that an excellent general culture is necessary to be a good musician. I often find in my Asian students (who are very sensitive people and technical performers) that their limited knowledge of western culture (literature, history etc) is an obstacle for them to fully understand and perform some pieces. How could a pianist play Schumann's Carnival with no understanding of the Commedia dell'arte and the meaning of the carnival in the Catholic cultures?
If you have enough LOVE you will somehow connect yourself.. this orchestra isn't here to tell anyone how to play but to ENJOY themselves.. Maybe one day you will find yorself studying some asian art or culture then maybe you will begin to sense a oneness in all.. and btw I never heard Mozart being a "Doctor of the musical Law" when he started writing.. so just chill that overheated brain.
Thank you for your post. I do not appreciate the adjective you gave to my brain, though. My brain may be overheated, but at least it is still working.
In all good conservatoires in Europe and the States musicians received artistic training as well as tuition in academic areas such as music theory, history of music and art and aesthetics. Mozart was living in a determinate place and time and to fully understand his music it is necessary the understanding of his time, the social and political circumstances, the art of the time etc. being sensitive and technically dexterous is not enough.
you know what? your absolutely right I wont argue.. But I'm right too, I've given it some real honest thinking, and that is my personal conclusion. In the end I think both are necesary, I study here at a conservatory (venezuela) and yes it is necessary a prof "explained" it to me and now "I get it".. as with the brain maybe my heart pounds too hard so no hard feelings.
Now, let me ask you: do you think someone with no knowledge of history and literature and understanding of the time when, let's say, Liszt's late works (so influenced by Lord Byron, Goethe and Dante) where written, could offer a good and satisfactory "interpretation" of them, full of meaning, personal yet faithful to Liszt's intentions?
I respect your opinion but ask yourself the following question: how many PhD's did Mozart have? Or consider this fact: during most of his live W.A. Mozart was NOT considered an "academic musician" - not even a virtuoso- by many of his peers. So what is it that defines a "consumed classical musician"? Is it Academicism or Transcendence? History has it: societies have always failed in recognizing genius due to preconceived and ortodox ideas.
So yes, it is perhaps a matter of geographic determinism or perhaps mopre precisely, a matter of the emergence of a new kind of consciousness that can only be possible where the individual is not bounded by blind following of rules and technicisms, or constricted by a society that keeps saying "don't dare to be yourself, don't dare to express yourself" or "poor people, are not people after all".
In Venezuela you find people who cannot read and still are consumed musicians. In developed countries, a person who cannot read is barely recognized as an actual individual.
I very much doubt, with all due respect, that even someone without a good knowledge (and experience) of the arts in general, literature, history, aesthetics and music theory can be a consumed classical musician. I am not talking about the guys from the Bolivar, I am talking in general.
I very much disagree with johnsummerly1950. Although I completely understand that for people used to the strict mechanicism and ortodoxy in music, it may be somehow a bit impossible to actually feel it in your blood, in your veins, in your brain, in your whole self. Or even dare to think that classical, academic music is something that can be taken out to everybody, not just to "academicists".
Johnsummerly... Of course it isnt a strictly professional orchestra... They are young musicians, they don`t have 40 years playing the same music as the greatest orchestras in Europe, but they are still terrific...
I agree with you that there's something special about those kids. Maybe it's just the latin attitude. However, my feeling about this orchestra is that although their concerts are a great experience, the age of the performers and the present level of the performance would make difficult for THIS generation of members to become professional musicians.
But again, I enjoyed the concert very much indeed, and I will be grateful if they come back next year. VIVA EL ORCHESTRA SIMON BOLIVAR!
Dios que linda se escuchaba el alma llanera, casi lloro, la piel se me erizo del tiro, lastima que no la pasaron completa... Que grandiosa es esta orquesta.. Lo máximo!!!
el preseupuesto de fesnojiv no es solo para la orquesta de la juventud venezolana sini tambien para todos los nucle que existen a lo largo y ancho del territorio nacional y que llevan lo hermoso de la musica a cada uno de los que integramos el sistema viva venezuela viva fesnojiv viva jose antonio abreu.....
Congratulations for the project. I couldn't believe it when I heard that so many poor people can play in orchestras in Venezuela. It is something just awesome. And I love these videos of the Orchestra... they are obviously not professionals but it is great to see them enjoy so much. It was a good show at the Royal Albert Hall.
I respectfully disagree. What I heard in the concert hall was a very exciting orchestra, but it was not a professional one. I enjoyed it very much, though. I think there is something special about the Bolivar kids; in the hall there was some kind of electricity in the air, some kind of uncontrollable energy I haven't found in the RPO, Philharmonia, LPO and the LSO.
finoo
Nanito2212 2 years ago
Hola¡¡¡
Tuve la dicha de conocer a muchos de estos jovenes en sus inicios, mientras me desempeñaba como Ayudante de la Primera dama en los alrededores del año 2000 - 2001. Cada vez que veo o escucho esta euforia con sus interpretaciones me hincho de emoción, Siempre es gratificante saber de sus éxitos y espero sigan cosechando triunfos. en especial con esa noble labor social que ejercen. DIOS LOS BENDIGA¡¡¡¡¡...VENEZUELA, SIEMPRE VENEZUELA¡¡¡¡
rimogo69 2 years ago
Que viva Dudamel.
Que viva Venezuela.
Excelente Orquesta...
KAMVENEZUELA 2 years ago 2
Que buena orquesta la mejor que hay actualmente y el director que tienen es el mejor....
mannymnts 3 years ago
hola soy del estado zulia sou tubista tengo 4 años de conocimiento del instrumento pero lo q mas q anhelo en este mundo es llegar a tocar en esa prestigiosa orquesta q es el orgullo venezolano tengo 19 años de edad y quisiera formar parte de la ORQUESTA SIMON BOLIVAR. "DUDAMEL AQUI TIENES OTRO TUBISTA MAS SOLAMENTE DAME LA OPRTUNIDAD" SOY EGRESADO DE LA BANDA SHOW RAFAEL URDANETA"
rafalopgom 3 years ago
SOY DE ESPAÑA estudio musica desde hace 12 años i DUDAMEL me parece absoñutamente increible, creo k llegara a ser de los mejores de la historia VIVA DUDAMEL!!!! ESpero verte en valencia
adri894oo 3 years ago 2
bravo los felicitos muchachos soy antonio no me conocen pero toco en la orquesta juvenil del zulia tengo 11 años toco el violin pero ese concierto fué muy espectacular sigan asi
antoniojos3 3 years ago 3
Excelente trabajo Soy de venezuela estudio La percucion!..
kritoflack 3 years ago 2
VIVA VENEZUELA !!!
bolivarianone 3 years ago 5
Gustavo Dudamel y a todos los miembros de la Orquesta quiero decirles que son increibles, espero verlos pronto en Toronto,Canada.
clipmaster2000 3 years ago 3
como no vamos aser el pais mas feliz con esos muchachos tan bellos y maravilloso director claro q lo somos dios los bendiga
oscarress 3 years ago 4
solo puedo decir que estoy orgullosa de ser VENEZOLANA y que somos lo "maximo" esto lo dice todo
alearape 3 years ago 4
¿Acaso hay duda? esto es Venezuela, es su gente, es lo que somos aqui en Sur America y en el mundo, somos vida, somos juventud, somos revolucion... simplemente somos venezolanos. N.Prieto. y pa ti Dudamel, mil bendiciones... te admiro!
Nain666 4 years ago 8
Viva Venezuela y sus Venezolanos!
:D
mitshiru 4 years ago 8
que show!
rsm200 4 years ago 6
Que Orgulloso estoy de ser Venezolano! La frescura y el sabor con el que tocan estos chamos son solo una muestra de lo que somos NOSOTROS!
vecctra1974 4 years ago 14
Cuánta razón tienes. Si todo sale bien, en 2008 conoceré tu hermoso país. Tengo un gran amigo tocando en esta orquesta y los escuché personalmente cuando vinieron a Argentina. Guardo con mucho recuerdo la chaqueta que me regalaron.
nicoo2k 4 years ago 6
venezuela es lo maximo ahorita en la musica clasica
se les quere!!
extroprex 4 years ago 11
mira el chamo con el cuatro...naguara de arrecho
ListenThinker 4 years ago 9
VIVA VENEZUELA!!
cucugt 4 years ago 7
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stop fighting, those kids are awesome and thats all. venezuela is located in the northern part of south america and the president is crazy.
vencharles 4 years ago
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whatever...
latopotopa 4 years ago
Venezuela it's not under the equator line, we are the northest part of South America, and our orquestra is one of the bests in the whole world... thanks to the effort of those kids and Gustavo Dudamel, thanks to all of you who enjoy this sounds
vazzykiller 4 years ago 2
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Why is it I sense somewhere the assumption that these performers lack of the general culture necessary to play as magnificently as they do?
Is it because they were born below the line of the Equator? Will the critic be the same if these kids played as they do, but were born, say in England, France, Italy, Austria, Russia? I wonder...
blncgln 4 years ago
I strongly believe that an excellent general culture is necessary to be a good musician. I often find in my Asian students (who are very sensitive people and technical performers) that their limited knowledge of western culture (literature, history etc) is an obstacle for them to fully understand and perform some pieces. How could a pianist play Schumann's Carnival with no understanding of the Commedia dell'arte and the meaning of the carnival in the Catholic cultures?
johnsummerly1950 4 years ago 3
If you have enough LOVE you will somehow connect yourself.. this orchestra isn't here to tell anyone how to play but to ENJOY themselves.. Maybe one day you will find yorself studying some asian art or culture then maybe you will begin to sense a oneness in all.. and btw I never heard Mozart being a "Doctor of the musical Law" when he started writing.. so just chill that overheated brain.
doiberman 4 years ago
Thank you for your post. I do not appreciate the adjective you gave to my brain, though. My brain may be overheated, but at least it is still working.
johnsummerly1950 4 years ago 2
In all good conservatoires in Europe and the States musicians received artistic training as well as tuition in academic areas such as music theory, history of music and art and aesthetics. Mozart was living in a determinate place and time and to fully understand his music it is necessary the understanding of his time, the social and political circumstances, the art of the time etc. being sensitive and technically dexterous is not enough.
johnsummerly1950 4 years ago 4
you know what? your absolutely right I wont argue.. But I'm right too, I've given it some real honest thinking, and that is my personal conclusion. In the end I think both are necesary, I study here at a conservatory (venezuela) and yes it is necessary a prof "explained" it to me and now "I get it".. as with the brain maybe my heart pounds too hard so no hard feelings.
doiberman 3 years ago
Now, let me ask you: do you think someone with no knowledge of history and literature and understanding of the time when, let's say, Liszt's late works (so influenced by Lord Byron, Goethe and Dante) where written, could offer a good and satisfactory "interpretation" of them, full of meaning, personal yet faithful to Liszt's intentions?
johnsummerly1950 4 years ago 5
I respect your opinion but ask yourself the following question: how many PhD's did Mozart have? Or consider this fact: during most of his live W.A. Mozart was NOT considered an "academic musician" - not even a virtuoso- by many of his peers. So what is it that defines a "consumed classical musician"? Is it Academicism or Transcendence? History has it: societies have always failed in recognizing genius due to preconceived and ortodox ideas.
blncgln 4 years ago 2
I have read with great pleasure your posts, blncgln. Thank you very much for sharing your ideas.
johnsummerly1950 4 years ago 2
So yes, it is perhaps a matter of geographic determinism or perhaps mopre precisely, a matter of the emergence of a new kind of consciousness that can only be possible where the individual is not bounded by blind following of rules and technicisms, or constricted by a society that keeps saying "don't dare to be yourself, don't dare to express yourself" or "poor people, are not people after all".
blncgln 4 years ago
In Venezuela you find people who cannot read and still are consumed musicians. In developed countries, a person who cannot read is barely recognized as an actual individual.
representanteangel 4 years ago
I very much doubt, with all due respect, that even someone without a good knowledge (and experience) of the arts in general, literature, history, aesthetics and music theory can be a consumed classical musician. I am not talking about the guys from the Bolivar, I am talking in general.
KARLJOOS 4 years ago
I very much disagree with johnsummerly1950. Although I completely understand that for people used to the strict mechanicism and ortodoxy in music, it may be somehow a bit impossible to actually feel it in your blood, in your veins, in your brain, in your whole self. Or even dare to think that classical, academic music is something that can be taken out to everybody, not just to "academicists".
blncgln 4 years ago
Johnsummerly... Of course it isnt a strictly professional orchestra... They are young musicians, they don`t have 40 years playing the same music as the greatest orchestras in Europe, but they are still terrific...
pitochato 4 years ago
I agree with you that there's something special about those kids. Maybe it's just the latin attitude. However, my feeling about this orchestra is that although their concerts are a great experience, the age of the performers and the present level of the performance would make difficult for THIS generation of members to become professional musicians.
But again, I enjoyed the concert very much indeed, and I will be grateful if they come back next year. VIVA EL ORCHESTRA SIMON BOLIVAR!
johnsummerly1950 4 years ago 4
Dios que linda se escuchaba el alma llanera, casi lloro, la piel se me erizo del tiro, lastima que no la pasaron completa... Que grandiosa es esta orquesta.. Lo máximo!!!
Enigmamyvs 4 years ago
Bravoooooooooooooooo
Hermosooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Los resentidos que se vayan pa otro lado
¡Viva Venezuela, carajooooo"
latercerapalabra 4 years ago
el preseupuesto de fesnojiv no es solo para la orquesta de la juventud venezolana sini tambien para todos los nucle que existen a lo largo y ancho del territorio nacional y que llevan lo hermoso de la musica a cada uno de los que integramos el sistema viva venezuela viva fesnojiv viva jose antonio abreu.....
violavenezuela 4 years ago
Bravo, Viva Venezuela
panadevenezuela 4 years ago
Congratulations for the project. I couldn't believe it when I heard that so many poor people can play in orchestras in Venezuela. It is something just awesome. And I love these videos of the Orchestra... they are obviously not professionals but it is great to see them enjoy so much. It was a good show at the Royal Albert Hall.
johnsummerly1950 4 years ago 4
sir, they are professionals
carlosvillalbam 4 years ago
I respectfully disagree. What I heard in the concert hall was a very exciting orchestra, but it was not a professional one. I enjoyed it very much, though. I think there is something special about the Bolivar kids; in the hall there was some kind of electricity in the air, some kind of uncontrollable energy I haven't found in the RPO, Philharmonia, LPO and the LSO.
johnsummerly1950 4 years ago
Maybe they're too young ^^ I know they aren't professionals, but I aprecciate their enthusiasm for classic music. For me it's just moving.
Thank you very much for those kindly words about the Orchestra. Best wishes form Venezuela.
FeuerundWasser 4 years ago
Viva Venezuela!!! señores: esto es lo que hay!!!
precioussakura 4 years ago 4
asi es
antoniojos3 3 years ago 3
La gente se vuelve loca aquí en Europa con estos chamos!
mariliendo 4 years ago 2
Qué orgullo y qué emoción ver a estos chamos emocionando fuera de nuestras fronteras!
leslievcr 4 years ago 3
FANTASTIC.Simon Bolivar is a legend.
gabb1972 4 years ago 3