Thanks for this video, do you have any links to information on the history of Africa? At what percentage of native blood do you think someone needs to have in order for them to recognize their native heritage?
Why is everything with this guy about Africa? Is he an Afrocentrist? He really does sound like one, lol. How you gonna tell Native Americans to look to Africa? More like Native Americans should look to Siberia, that is where the ancestry is from. Anyway, how you gonna try to convince people that White people are bad people? Isn't that racism? Not all Whites were involved in what you speak about, only greedy kings, selfish soldiers, and money hungry Planters, not the common White person. U racist
Your wrong about their ancestry. If you want to know the truth check out The Journey of man here on youtube. it's proven that all humans branched out from Africa and populated the world. He's not afrocentric if he's saying the two are connected because that's like saying the two are equal which he actually basically says. He's just proud of his heritage like I hope you are. Good Day:)
@McCray2338 Of course all humans have origins in Africa, but when we speak of ancestry, we speak of the place where your ancestors evolved to the present phenotypical state. Europeans look the way they do due to the climate of Europe. Same goes for Indians and Chinese of the climate they evolved in. Btw, he is Afrocentric, I've seen several of his videos, and many are bashing White people and praising Blacks and Black Africans.
Is that just your definition of ancestry because when I got my bio degree to become a genealogist, that was not the definition we learned.Your missing a few key points like frame shift mutaions and so on when it comes to the reason why humans now differ in our phenotypes. Btw I don't consider myself racist because i'm proud of my African ancestry. Now bashing other races is a horse of a different color. But I didn't hear any bashing in this video? What did you hear?
@McCray2338 Are you Afrocentric? Because you seem to highly defending this guy, who if you watch his videos, he is a an Afrocentrist. Well, I could care less about your degree or your profession. Supply some credible sources saying that ancestry is ONLY the one of proto-African origin. If you can't, then it is merely speculation. Ancestry also points to places of evolution. Native Americans' ancestry lies in Siberia.
@IslenoGutierrez If being proud of my ancestry makes me Afrocentric then sure. But if you have to hate other races and ethnic groups to be Afrocentric then no. I also never asked you to CARE about my degree or profession if you read my comment correctly. I should not have to supply the definition of "ancestry" to a grown man, and if you think he's sooo Afrocentric then why watch his videos? I don't this was my first and last one because I have better things to do, but feel free to continue
@McCray2338 Afrocentrists are usually pro-Black racists. If you feel that you are Afrocentric, then that is your problem. Also, yes I do not care your profession or degree, because I didn't ask you for it, you volunteered for it as if it would make me believe your points. I read the comment correctly, that is how I came to the conclusion. There was no need to mention it. Yes, I'm grown, so I don't need any definitions from you. I came across this vid on accident, just like his others.
@IslenoGutierrez watching his videos. I for one don't care. By the way are you proud of your ancestry because if so then that means your racist if you think he's Afrocentric "racist" for being proud of his.
@McCray2338 It is not racist to call someone an Afrocentrist. I don't hate Africans, but I don't like Afrocentrists because they try to twist the truths about things and try to claim things for Black Africa that do not belong. Most Afrocentrists are not even Africans, but Black Americans. I am not racist, as I appreciate all colors, but I don't like Afrocentrism because it is tied to pro-Black racism.
@McCray2338 I am proud of my ancestry, but this guy is more than just being proud of his ancestry. He brags on it, and tries to discredit others from theirs when it may be tied to his. As for instance in some of his videos regarding ancient Egypt. So I don't hate people who are proud of their heritage, I just don't like people who discredit the history and achievement of others' ancestors. There is a difference. He comes across as racist in some of his videos when speaking about White people.
Well in that case if it's like you say then yes he is racist, but I would not know because I have not watched any other video of his. Sooo with that being said I can only speak about myself because while I am proud of my ancestry, and brag on it I don't down other people's ancestry. So does the fact that I brag about my ancestry alone make me racist???
@McCray2338 Bragging on your heritage does not make you a racist. Racism starts when you put down other peoples race and heritage. This guy has several videos made, and I came across some that put down White people, especially the videos he has made about ancient Egypt. So I am not calling you a racist, I am calling him one. Also, Afrocentrism has a tendency to claim other peoples heritages and civilizations, mainly by Black Americans trying to fill a void for loss of cultural knowledge.
idk how i came up on dis video but real recognize real n if ur teaching im listein...so i went n researched about the dogon tribe...4real it made me think twice about we see earth n our universe....ur a very intelligent person plz make more videos about diff tribes includin north carolina indians...cuz we have a lot
um..i'm sure that everyone knows that we need to stop fighting each other and that we all came from adam and eve and we're all connected in some way, but dear.. the world won't get any better.that's nice of you to make a video to try to "educate" but people won't stop. it's already too chaotic. God will come back soon and destroy it.that's our revolution.
Bueno yo solo fui expuesto a los chavacanos. La mayoria que conoci hablaban Tagalog con algunas palabras en español dispersas. Pero puede ser. El concepto de raza es una locura.
2. adj. Perteneciente o relativo a la antigua Hispania o a los pueblos que formaron parte de ella y a los que nacieron de estos pueblos en época posterior.
3. adj. Perteneciente o relativo a la lengua y la cultura españolas. Dialectalismo hispánico. Tradición hispánica.
Vivo en EEUU y soy ciudadano aqui, pero me crié en Perú y soy peruano en etnía.
Hispano en el gobierno no es una raza. Es la cultura popular racializada la que la ha convertido en un concepto re raza mestiza. Hasta hay un sentimiento que si te ves muy negro, asiatico o blanco, se sorprenden cuando dices que eres hispano. Solo la apariencia mestizada o indigena es vista como hispana latina, por muchos. No entienden el concepto de etno cultura.
Los aborigenes que no hablan español como lengua primaria no son hispanos. Los Lusitanicos no son hispanos, pero si son latinos. Los chabacanos y otros grupos que tengan al español, o un derivativo como lengua prima son hispanos.
Pero yo no soy americano, ni me interesa el uso equivocado racial. Hispano es netamente un titulo sociocultural. Un soldado nepali y un soldado americano son bien diferentes, pero siguen siendo soldados. Hispano es una categoria, no un molde absoluto.
Nope. Filipinos were becoming Hispanic, but the majority still spoke Native languages as their first language. Now they are Native first, but close to becoming Anglo. Equatoreal Guineans are a mix. Some speak Spanish as a first language and are Hispanics, others speak it as a second language and are not. Guam no longer has Spanish influence. Chammoro and English are not Spanish. There are Hispanics in the Filipines though. They are the Chabacanos.
this guy makes some of the funniest videos we have ever seen. he must smoke right before he starts recording. it's not often you get to see someone so high on video. you gotta hand it to black people. they sure know how to hit that pipe hard...I guess with lips that big though, it probably pretty easy.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
mexicans,peruvians,etc are renegade indians those fool should stop callin themselves "latinos" cos real latinos are white people..i dont see black americans callin themselves "british" just cos they speak english.
Sciences of Africa that is funny, wow negroids are comedians, but not scientists. All the inventions of Negroids are given from caucasians or are not significant to the civilized world.
p.s. i am not including Ancient Egypt to my definition of africa becasue the africa im talking about is the negroids, Ancient Egyptians were semitic, which is a of-shoot of caucazoids
it also says that he made the israelites in the LIKENESS of the egyptians and ethiopians. moses passd as an egyptianbut he was hebrew. u ever heard of the prince of egypt?
You do know anthropologist have proven caucasians as we know them or the white people as we know them are only at the earliest 6,000 & at the latest 12,000 years old right?
hahahahaha! are u stupid? who do you think made pyrimids created math and everything else u r taugh here? LOOK UP THE PINEAL GLAND AND MELANIN. THEN U'LL SEE WHO HAS THE GREATESS MENTAL CAPACITIES. PLEASE LOOK UP PINEAL GLAND AND SEE THAT U ARE INFERIOR. OUR GENES ARE MORE DIVERSE THAN ANY RACE ON THE PLANET U RECCESSIVE GENED ALBINO. U CAME FROM US U MUTATION OF A HUMAN.UR PPL R FACING EXTINCTION CUZ THEY CANT REPRODUCE AND THE SUN IS YOUR ENEMY!EVRY CREATURE ON THE PLANET LOVES THE SUN BUT U
The oldest mathematical artifact known to man is the ishango bone which is the first piece of evidence of algebra, found in south africa. Look it up, thats not even mentioning the iron smelting that was taking place in africa before anywhere else or the domestication of animals. Or the masonry that allowed houses & pyramids to be built
Its tru am from up north and black up north style way different am black and when i talk on the phone i have strong new york accent some people think am spanish because my accent and i get tired of it!
How do you expect to be respected when you are high on crack all the time (in all of your videos) and can't even put two words together. Your the one bad apple in the bunch that spoils the rest.
What the hell are you talking about? Are you on drugs in this video? You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Hahahaha! Another insecure afrocentrist who doesn't know anything.
Do you know what latino and hispanic means? Who told you that you were latino or hispanic? You just look like an regular African American or maybe a Jamaican. Definitely NOT Latino or hispanic. If you're not from Brazil, Haiti, Dominican Republic, Colombia, Cuba, Venezuela, Mexico, Nicaragua, or any other country that was colonized by Spain/Portugal and mixed with the people, then you aren't hispanic or black. Some ppl are so dumb!
Is that supposed to be threatening. By your sentence (if you want to call it that) and your spelling, I see the lack of education and intelligence. Haha. Idiot.
fuck you my skin is brown not fucking black stop your propiganda fuck you and your false statements you dont know what our people went threw shut up already
You are very ignorant. How did your skin get Brown? If the first man was Black then how did you get Brown? Stop bashing, just think about how dark your people were before White European Spainards raped your ancestors.
oh hell na are u fucken stupid u dont know shit about the color of our skin. the color of our skin is the color of our ancestors in mexico theirs meztizos whow carry the native color skin and corollis whow have the eurotrash(white) skin. theirs many time were the parents are both white and will have a brown kid=meztizo and were the majority our ancestors genes have never left us so dont give me that bullshit about mixing.
You know good and well white people do not have brown babies. Dog you only need to look at the pictures that the early Central Americans left of themselves. They were dark some even black. Now you also know that the only way your skin is dark or black is if you have African ancestors or if you are African. Since you are so smart I'll let you work out the conclusion.
"US" who the fuck is "us" fool the only people in denial are your black people stop disgracing my peoples and our culture you idiot get it threw your head there was no black people in the americas until your own people solfd you out to the whites there is no"us" fool you dont' have anything to do with MY culture dont be made cuz the only thing you were good for was for bieng putos keep my indio tribes out your nasty mouth you dont have a real culture stop trying to steal ours your pathetic
You aztecs were SLAVES too. You have no culture except what the raping, savaging Spain gave you. YOU are native putos. Worthless, broompushing, coconut rollin' uneducated monkeys. Some folks are misguided as to the connections between "aztecs" (WTF ever) & Black people. Keep sucking the wm's ass, and when he turns on your monkey a-, pls don't beg the black man to march for you again! Yah will pay us for our work, as HE will yours.
lmao i have way more culture than your SELL OUT RACE YOUR OWN MONKEY TRIBES SOLD YOUS OUT TO THE WHITE MEN AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE WHO THE FUCK SAID WE KISS THERE ASS LMAO YOU SHOULDN'T BE TALKING YOU WELL FAIR CHECK COLLECTING MONKEY AT LEAST WE DON'T LIVE IN STACKED APT. BUILDINGS LIKE YOU MONKEY HOES DO YOU DIRTY APE MOTHER FUCKER HAHAHAH YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT AZTECS CHANGITO SO WHO ARE YOU TO SPEAK ON THAT TOPIC
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
IM WHITE and i love black people! i think mexicans are racists. you make you people look bad when you are racists. i know mexicans are hated worse than black. as a white man believe. i hear people say spick in public, most people wont dare say nigger in public although they do. i GUESS the difference is its excepted to hate mexicans because people think you are taking their jobs. IM NOT RACIST AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALL COME TOGETHER.
Wrong. People from Spain are Spanish. People from strongly Spanish influenced cultures are Hispanic. Mexicans are Mestizo. And depending on the region a huge chunk of Mexico is more European in ancestry than it is Native. To deny their European roots and only acknowledge the Native roots would be wrong.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
no hispanic is pure spaniard and people mixed of spanish descent. isaying people who are hispanice because they are influenced by spanish is like saying black people are brittanica because they are influeced by anglo culture.
Spanish people are obviously Hispanic as well. But All Hispanics are not Spaniard. No, not all people influenced by Spain are Hispanic. Only the ones that have their core culture influenced. And yes, there are Blacks that are Britannic, or Anglo in culture.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
What do you mean by cor culture influence. Yes you are right only the spanish people who descended from hispania are hispanic. However what I'm trying to say is people who are full native descent and influenced hispanic culture are not hispanic. look at my page and click on the video that says identity for mexicans,central americans, native americans.
Wrong again. Hispanic means of Spanish influence. Obviously Spanish people influenced themselves. They also culturally influenced others. The vast majority of Mexicans, Central Americans identify as Hispanic. Some have a stronger Native Identity, some identify with both equally.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
Oh ya i also think influence has nothing to do with identity. There can be two very different cultures and they can influence each other. Like An Italian culture and can influence a black-american culture but the the italians will always be italians and the blacks will always be blacks. Sometimes a culture will itself onton another culture, just like what the conquistadors did.
Wrong again. It depends on level of influence. If it affects core cultural traditions, then it becomes a part of the culture. Black Americans adopting some Italian traits is very different from them adopting the language, foods, etc. Blacks in Italy are still Italians.
@Salsassin Hispanic means of Spanish influence? Hispanic or hispano (in spanish) has COMPLETELY been miss use in the U.S, Hispanics are people from ancient Spain, also known as Hispania. Mexico and all the way to Chile are NOT hispanic. It's like saying that all white people in the U.S that are of English descent are British, because they came from ancient England also known as Britannia.
Let me know when you actually publish a dictionary. I could care less what your interpretation is. The word has a definition, and those people fit within that definition. And it is not all White people in the US. It is every English as a primary language speaker in the US that is Anglo (short for Anglophone). JUst like I am Hispanic as Spanish is my primary language, they are Anglos.
Was this the argument u was telling me about about salsassin? Dawm homie lol u got soo many thumbs down along the other ppl i bet u salsassin was behind this lol..
That is because of what cultural choices they choose to congregate to. THe QAnglo Caribbean is 90% African. So it makes sense that African identity would be strong. But in strongly mixed populations, where culture is the most important common ground.
But they are not all black they have European ancestry. The most dominant force of Mexican/Central American culture is indigenous so shouldn't that be the same for their identity.
Around 13% per person Average. And they were segregated because of their ancestry creating a distinct culture. In contrast Mestizos were incorporated into main stream society. Thus the vast majority of people of pure to mixed ancestry have the same exact culture. With pockets of indigenous culture where SPanish is not the first language.
African Americans are not segregated now, so are they mulattoes/britanics now? And who's to say Mestizos were not segregated?
Mestizos were "incorporated" the same way blacks were- through slavery, terror, book burning, and laws outlawing native culture. But still the native culture persists.
They do not have exactly the same culture. You make the mistake of generalizing and not appretiating diversity that you so resent when done by others when you make this claim.
Wrong again. The ethnic culture was already formed. Even when segregation is gone the ethnic group is fully formed. Mestizos were not incorporated the same as Blacks as they intermarried much more extensively and Mestizos occupied various echelons. They had the same culture. Not always the same class, but it was the same culture.
"Mestizo" culture varies regionally. It's not all the same. Intermarriage's role is often exaggerated. We only have documentation of elite natives marrying Spaniards for weatlh. I think these "marriages" were illegitamite/rapes. Blacks occupied various echelons too. There were field slaves, house slaves, and free blacks.
IT varies regionally, but those regionalisms are based off Spanish language interaction. Your claim on intermarriage is false. After the initial wave of conquistadores, we had mnay of the general civilian population who migrated and belonged to the lower classes. They intermarried as well. Blacks occupied various echelons in the USA, but with a segregation from whites in ever echelon.
There is no better form of segregation then indian reservations. But if you go to one, you will find the people have substantial white admixture, yet they are not called (nor do they identify as) mestizos. The very term Mestizo is from the caste system (segregation). In Cuba, a children born of a Spaniard and Taino was called mestizo, but the Tainos called them Guajiro, literally "Our people".
THere weren't Indian Reservations in Latin America. Many American mixed Natives became part of the White mainstream. Mestizo existed way before the caste systems. The earliest record of usage I have seen was a Jewish Egyptian in the 1300's. Guajiros also speak Spanish and share culture through that language.
I was talking about the indian reservations in the United states. The mixed blood people in the US are still viewed as "indian". You are right that it existed, but not in the way it is used today. It was a completely different term because it had a different historical and cultural context. When i mentioned Guajiro I was talking about the Tainos view of mixed children not necessarily what Guajiros are like today.
Only the ones that choose to stay on reservations. Mixed bloods have assimilated into the mainstream as well. Mestizo still just means people that are mixed. The casta systems are long gone. The Guajiros today speaking Spanish and having the same culture as the rest speaks towards the point of cultural diffusion.
No. Indians who live off of reservations still retain their identity. The may feel disconnected from their roots but they know they are still Indian.If Mestizo means people that are mixed then everyone is Mestizo. The Spaniards, Natives, you, me, Europeans, Africans, cave men etc. If this is what Mestizo means then it is meaningless as an identity/label. Casta laws are gone but their effect remains just like in India. And again I was not referring to modern Guajiros.
Wrong again, Genetics in the White populations clearly show Native Admixture. And Mestizo directly applies to populations that form from separate populations. No, not all people are Mestizo. The debate is about modern people, not what you wish were modern that occured in the past.
Whites with admixture you mentioned, Me (My mom's Italian dad's Irish). Spaniards (they have Iberian, Celtic, Visogothic, Roman, and Moorish ancestry) English people ( Angles, Saxons, Normans and Britons). Japanese people (Yayoi and Ainu). Egyptians, Italians, Jews, Arabs, French people, Malagasy, East Indians- not one is pure. All Mestizos.
As Italian and Irish were not seen as divergent populations when they married, and I highly doubt she they were actually from those countries but just Americans with those ancestries, where Whiteness as an identity was formed, nope. Many Spaniards are definitely a Mestizo people. So are many Anglo-Saxons. Not all. Same for the rest of your examples.
Not long ago Irish people would be outraged if a loved one was engaged to an Italian, and maybe vice versa. Not too mention, both groups were not originally considered whites. Could you give me some examples of English and Spanish people being considered Mestizo? Does this mean you can be Criollo and Mestizo at the same? Obviously levels of Admixture vary between individuals of each of the groups I mentioned. Certainly though, very few are "pure".
Not long ago, like 100 years ago. Sure. But you don't live 100 years ago. English people being considered Mestizo? Plenty of descendants of immigrants to Spain. Less with England. We see Metis populations in Canada, but in England you just see Half Castes as individuals, not as populations.
No there really isn't. Whether they live on reservations is irrelevant. The fact is they are granted aboriginal status. The people in CarlosDC's videos are not even offered that option when it should be available to them. Carlos is aggressive in getting them to consider a new identity because they have been taught from birth to avoid it at all costs.
A population remains ethnically Mestizo until all elements of the mixture are accepted as mainstream. The English pretty much have become one peoples, Spain a little less so. Japanese are mixed in the North, not all Japanese. Malagasy definitely.
No society in the world consists of people who are all exactly the same. This what it sounds like your suggesting when you say all elements of the mixture become mainstream.
Jews should just get over this holocaust then right? It's history. Israel has been justified in robbing and murdering Palestinians because of the Holocaust. Book after Movie after Museum is pumped out about the Holocaust. Yet the minute someone mentions this they are shot down.
Do you really think any person in the world does not have multiple linages in their whole ancestry? Aside from nomadic groups who has not adopted traits of another culture?
Regional variation also has to do with the local indigenous cultures. Jalisco=Huichol Sonora=Yaqui Guatemala= Kiche etc.
If there was more admixture in Mexico and Central America than in America, so what? What made immigration possible was the holocaust committed that ensured European control of the land.
It is a double standard to require mixed identity for one group and not another.
Yes, but common ground was not through those indigenous cultures. SHaring of culture and commonality was achieved through SPanish language communications.
Regardless of how much you want to play the victim for historical abuses, which have occured through millenia, the fact remains that ethnic trends did and do occur, and those ethnic trends are labelled. Hispanic is a label for those cultural trends that spread through Spanish language diffusion.
I'm not denying ethnic trends occured. They did and the majority happened BEFORE the Spaniards arrived. People were interacting and trading just as much or more for thousands of years before Columbus. MesoAmerican cultures already had common ground that continues to exist today in the Olmec civilization.
It is incorrect to say the colonization of the Americas was like any other "historical abuses". If you could refer me to a similar case I would appreciate it.
Sorry, but ethnic trends only last as long as they go from parents to children. You can claim 2 million years and it still ends the moment that a parent does not give that information to the child. What is relevant is what culture has been imparted to the present. Except for the disease aspect, colonization of the Americas was no different than conquest by Romans, Moors, or other cultures. Disease caused a major population decrease.
You make it seem like all indigenous "ethnic trends" were wiped out which is wrong. Yes disease is what differentiates the invasion of the Americas from other events in history and contrary to popular belief, disease was not always spread by accident. Europeans knew all about disease and how it spread and if they cared they would make an effort to stop its spread and not do things like say give blankets infested with small pox to native americans.
There are historical references to deliberate uses of blankets to spread disease. I just searched "native american small pox blankets" on google and fifth site confirmed this. When Vasco Da Gama explored what's now the Am. Southeast he let loose a dozen pigs. Why in the world would he want to free his pigs?
Go look them up again. Look for the primary sources. There is correspondence about possible acts, but no evidence it occurred. Source for your Vasco de Gama claim.
Okay you are right its 1491 and De Soto. But he did mention that pigs were brought and released by him. It's at the beginning of Inventing by the Millions. In the first paragraph it says he was a rich indian slave trader looking for new lands to conquer so you can guess he had bad intentions. I'm not assuming it was on purpose but judging by his character its much more likely than if it was someone lese.
No it does not. The book hypothesizes that only a few escaping would have been enough. Nor is there any evidence that De Soto would have been aware of the risk of said devastation. Knowledge that would be acquired much later through experience as seen by the English writings. So all you have is wild speculation.
Sure it is speculation but i wouldn't call it wild. Regardless there are documented cases of disease being deliberately spread, one example being to the Delaware people.
All you need to know is that Europeans saw first hand the damage they could do to the natives when they landed in the Carribean. They knew what they were doing.
Claiming a soldier would know about porcine diseases in the New World when he wasn't a doctor, had no clue about long term infectious capacity and nothing like it had been seen in the old world for centuries? Yeah, I would call it wild speculation. Spaniards would have not been privy to their own disease spreading capacity until much later. For all they knew, these were just epidemics that were local. No reference point.
Local epidemics which spread like forest fires at the time that conincided with there very arrival.
Biological warfare is documented in Hittite texts and was used against the city of Caffa by the Mongols. Europeans were not nearly as naive as you'd like to think.
Again, nice try. Old worlders knew that extremely unsanitary events and allowing bodies to fester, could lead to ANY person getting sick. It was common knowledge. They had no idea at the time that they could be immune to various diseases that could wipe out entire populations because their bodies were carriers.
Obviously, but they saw the effects at initial contact and it didn't seem to bother them. If you don't act to stop evil acts then you are affectively aiding in them.
The fact is what united the various African slaves into Black Americans was the use of the English and the fact is that cultural transmission occurs through that language.
what is the music and where can I buy it?
McCray2338 6 months ago
Thanks for this video, do you have any links to information on the history of Africa? At what percentage of native blood do you think someone needs to have in order for them to recognize their native heritage?
nivca2 7 months ago
Who cares about Africa?
I don't. Sorry man but it's true
mrjeovanni45 10 months ago
@mrjeovanni45 faggot
sakukillerreborn 8 months ago
Why is everything with this guy about Africa? Is he an Afrocentrist? He really does sound like one, lol. How you gonna tell Native Americans to look to Africa? More like Native Americans should look to Siberia, that is where the ancestry is from. Anyway, how you gonna try to convince people that White people are bad people? Isn't that racism? Not all Whites were involved in what you speak about, only greedy kings, selfish soldiers, and money hungry Planters, not the common White person. U racist
IslenoGutierrez 11 months ago
@IslenoGutierrez
Your wrong about their ancestry. If you want to know the truth check out The Journey of man here on youtube. it's proven that all humans branched out from Africa and populated the world. He's not afrocentric if he's saying the two are connected because that's like saying the two are equal which he actually basically says. He's just proud of his heritage like I hope you are. Good Day:)
McCray2338 6 months ago
@McCray2338 Of course all humans have origins in Africa, but when we speak of ancestry, we speak of the place where your ancestors evolved to the present phenotypical state. Europeans look the way they do due to the climate of Europe. Same goes for Indians and Chinese of the climate they evolved in. Btw, he is Afrocentric, I've seen several of his videos, and many are bashing White people and praising Blacks and Black Africans.
IslenoGutierrez 6 months ago
@IslenoGutierrez
Is that just your definition of ancestry because when I got my bio degree to become a genealogist, that was not the definition we learned.Your missing a few key points like frame shift mutaions and so on when it comes to the reason why humans now differ in our phenotypes. Btw I don't consider myself racist because i'm proud of my African ancestry. Now bashing other races is a horse of a different color. But I didn't hear any bashing in this video? What did you hear?
McCray2338 6 months ago
@McCray2338 Are you Afrocentric? Because you seem to highly defending this guy, who if you watch his videos, he is a an Afrocentrist. Well, I could care less about your degree or your profession. Supply some credible sources saying that ancestry is ONLY the one of proto-African origin. If you can't, then it is merely speculation. Ancestry also points to places of evolution. Native Americans' ancestry lies in Siberia.
IslenoGutierrez 6 months ago
@IslenoGutierrez If being proud of my ancestry makes me Afrocentric then sure. But if you have to hate other races and ethnic groups to be Afrocentric then no. I also never asked you to CARE about my degree or profession if you read my comment correctly. I should not have to supply the definition of "ancestry" to a grown man, and if you think he's sooo Afrocentric then why watch his videos? I don't this was my first and last one because I have better things to do, but feel free to continue
McCray2338 6 months ago
@McCray2338 Afrocentrists are usually pro-Black racists. If you feel that you are Afrocentric, then that is your problem. Also, yes I do not care your profession or degree, because I didn't ask you for it, you volunteered for it as if it would make me believe your points. I read the comment correctly, that is how I came to the conclusion. There was no need to mention it. Yes, I'm grown, so I don't need any definitions from you. I came across this vid on accident, just like his others.
IslenoGutierrez 6 months ago
@IslenoGutierrez watching his videos. I for one don't care. By the way are you proud of your ancestry because if so then that means your racist if you think he's Afrocentric "racist" for being proud of his.
McCray2338 6 months ago
@McCray2338 It is not racist to call someone an Afrocentrist. I don't hate Africans, but I don't like Afrocentrists because they try to twist the truths about things and try to claim things for Black Africa that do not belong. Most Afrocentrists are not even Africans, but Black Americans. I am not racist, as I appreciate all colors, but I don't like Afrocentrism because it is tied to pro-Black racism.
IslenoGutierrez 6 months ago
@McCray2338 I am proud of my ancestry, but this guy is more than just being proud of his ancestry. He brags on it, and tries to discredit others from theirs when it may be tied to his. As for instance in some of his videos regarding ancient Egypt. So I don't hate people who are proud of their heritage, I just don't like people who discredit the history and achievement of others' ancestors. There is a difference. He comes across as racist in some of his videos when speaking about White people.
IslenoGutierrez 6 months ago
@IslenoGutierrez
Well in that case if it's like you say then yes he is racist, but I would not know because I have not watched any other video of his. Sooo with that being said I can only speak about myself because while I am proud of my ancestry, and brag on it I don't down other people's ancestry. So does the fact that I brag about my ancestry alone make me racist???
McCray2338 6 months ago
@McCray2338 Bragging on your heritage does not make you a racist. Racism starts when you put down other peoples race and heritage. This guy has several videos made, and I came across some that put down White people, especially the videos he has made about ancient Egypt. So I am not calling you a racist, I am calling him one. Also, Afrocentrism has a tendency to claim other peoples heritages and civilizations, mainly by Black Americans trying to fill a void for loss of cultural knowledge.
IslenoGutierrez 6 months ago
Preach Brother!!!!!!!
MrChamblee06 1 year ago
@sirach
Imperialism and colonialism is still alive.
LaMariposaSedosa 1 year ago
Just like an Afrocentric.
MrRealNATIVE 1 year ago
@MrRealNATIVE Shut yo green ass up.. you dont know shit about no mothafukin afrocenticity... yall boys need stop that shit.
FulMetaJakit 1 year ago
@FulMetaJakit My green ass? I will emit that was funny. Your right I don't know shit about Afrocentrism I also don't care to know.
MrRealNATIVE 1 year ago
@MrRealNATIVE well dont speak on it then.
FulMetaJakit 1 year ago
@FulMetaJakit Can I ask you a question, what are your feelings on Europeans?
IslenoGutierrez 1 year ago
idk how i came up on dis video but real recognize real n if ur teaching im listein...so i went n researched about the dogon tribe...4real it made me think twice about we see earth n our universe....ur a very intelligent person plz make more videos about diff tribes includin north carolina indians...cuz we have a lot
bri823 1 year ago
um..i'm sure that everyone knows that we need to stop fighting each other and that we all came from adam and eve and we're all connected in some way, but dear.. the world won't get any better.that's nice of you to make a video to try to "educate" but people won't stop. it's already too chaotic. God will come back soon and destroy it.that's our revolution.
LilBlkAznBeauty 1 year ago
Comment removed
LilBlkAznBeauty 1 year ago
@sirach mesopatamia came before india.thats the cradle of civilization
thunderheart226 1 year ago
Comment removed
1980vince 1 year ago
@sirach fuck that ser hispano no es algo de estar orgulloso lee tu historia y savras que han ello los "hispanos" con los nativos de estaes tierras
hermesake 1 year ago 2
@sirach the control the whole world in peace in the past than something happen and everything went wild like it is now
hermesake 1 year ago
@sirach yes i know
hermesake 1 year ago
@sirach
Estoy de acuerdo.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@sirach
La cultura vedica es antigua pero no mas antigua que la levantina. Eso se sabe por arqueología.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@sirach
Bueno yo solo fui expuesto a los chavacanos. La mayoria que conoci hablaban Tagalog con algunas palabras en español dispersas. Pero puede ser. El concepto de raza es una locura.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@sirach
la parte importante seria: y a los que nacieron de estos pueblos en época posterior.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@sirach
Tambien puedes ir con hispanico
1. adj. Perteneciente o relativo a España.
2. adj. Perteneciente o relativo a la antigua Hispania o a los pueblos que formaron parte de ella y a los que nacieron de estos pueblos en época posterior.
3. adj. Perteneciente o relativo a la lengua y la cultura españolas. Dialectalismo hispánico. Tradición hispánica.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@sirach
Yo no uso wikipedia. Uso la RAE directamente.
"Perteneciente o relativo a Hispania."
Relativo cubre un amplio gama. El español y la cultura que evoluciona y se propaga de España o Hispania en forma diasporica es relativo a Hispania.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@sirach
Vivo en EEUU y soy ciudadano aqui, pero me crié en Perú y soy peruano en etnía.
Hispano en el gobierno no es una raza. Es la cultura popular racializada la que la ha convertido en un concepto re raza mestiza. Hasta hay un sentimiento que si te ves muy negro, asiatico o blanco, se sorprenden cuando dices que eres hispano. Solo la apariencia mestizada o indigena es vista como hispana latina, por muchos. No entienden el concepto de etno cultura.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@sirach
Los aborigenes que no hablan español como lengua primaria no son hispanos. Los Lusitanicos no son hispanos, pero si son latinos. Los chabacanos y otros grupos que tengan al español, o un derivativo como lengua prima son hispanos.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@sirach
Pero yo no soy americano, ni me interesa el uso equivocado racial. Hispano es netamente un titulo sociocultural. Un soldado nepali y un soldado americano son bien diferentes, pero siguen siendo soldados. Hispano es una categoria, no un molde absoluto.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@sirach
Nope. Filipinos were becoming Hispanic, but the majority still spoke Native languages as their first language. Now they are Native first, but close to becoming Anglo. Equatoreal Guineans are a mix. Some speak Spanish as a first language and are Hispanics, others speak it as a second language and are not. Guam no longer has Spanish influence. Chammoro and English are not Spanish. There are Hispanics in the Filipines though. They are the Chabacanos.
Salsassin 1 year ago
hell no, olmecs are not black no matter wat u say.....
vicious92001 1 year ago
Comment removed
737angied 1 year ago
Love your vid! Very insightful thanks. Salaam.
Mbeebeelove 1 year ago
this guy makes some of the funniest videos we have ever seen. he must smoke right before he starts recording. it's not often you get to see someone so high on video. you gotta hand it to black people. they sure know how to hit that pipe hard...I guess with lips that big though, it probably pretty easy.
danran78 1 year ago
Delusional man.. Natives aren't Afrikan and New Guinean's aren't Aficans either. They are Racially Australoid and Poly
EZ3Xicano 1 year ago
un pendejo.......
LaSoto789 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
you should stop doing drugs.........
LaSoto789 2 years ago
im-with-that-my-brother.
FulMetaJakit 2 years ago
@FulMetaJakit YOUR ONE UGLY ASS HUMAN;
Kemiztri 1 year ago
good stuff..speak on it
quimixipilli 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
mexicans,peruvians,etc are renegade indians those fool should stop callin themselves "latinos" cos real latinos are white people..i dont see black americans callin themselves "british" just cos they speak english.
SpainEurope1000 2 years ago
the skulls and bones of africans in the new world "luzia" link our motherland to ALL culture creation.
this was reported in the bbc and the nyt no less!
africa and africans i love you!
lonepantherAK 2 years ago
google "luzia brazil" and youll see from corporate media no less, of the african prescence in the new world for AT LEAST 50,000 ago.
lonepantherAK 2 years ago
if africans could not defend themselves from the more advanced technology from the europeans,
then there is no way in hell that africans had the intelligence to make a boat and sail thousands of miles across the ocean,
theres no proof or evidence anyways.
glasspig 2 years ago
damn u that stupid?
FulMetaJakit 2 years ago
Sciences of Africa that is funny, wow negroids are comedians, but not scientists. All the inventions of Negroids are given from caucasians or are not significant to the civilized world.
p.s. i am not including Ancient Egypt to my definition of africa becasue the africa im talking about is the negroids, Ancient Egyptians were semitic, which is a of-shoot of caucazoids
Youradumbassbarnes 2 years ago
then why does that bible say ancient egyptians where desendent from ham. And so where the nubians and other africans.
rotena25 2 years ago
it also says that he made the israelites in the LIKENESS of the egyptians and ethiopians. moses passd as an egyptianbut he was hebrew. u ever heard of the prince of egypt?
FLpolo 2 years ago
You do know anthropologist have proven caucasians as we know them or the white people as we know them are only at the earliest 6,000 & at the latest 12,000 years old right?
NubiansRuledTheWorld 2 years ago
Actually a boat doesnt take that much intelligence to invent.
Scientists have proved Negroids dont have even close to the mental capabilities of whites or asians.
The reason you dont hear of these studies is because they would immediately be accused of being racist.
Africans never had advanced technology nor had any major inventions.
Also The guy making this video is FUCKING IGNORANT africans are not native to the americas fucking cunt you you are not part the native americans.
Youradumbassbarnes 2 years ago
hahahahaha! are u stupid? who do you think made pyrimids created math and everything else u r taugh here? LOOK UP THE PINEAL GLAND AND MELANIN. THEN U'LL SEE WHO HAS THE GREATESS MENTAL CAPACITIES. PLEASE LOOK UP PINEAL GLAND AND SEE THAT U ARE INFERIOR. OUR GENES ARE MORE DIVERSE THAN ANY RACE ON THE PLANET U RECCESSIVE GENED ALBINO. U CAME FROM US U MUTATION OF A HUMAN.UR PPL R FACING EXTINCTION CUZ THEY CANT REPRODUCE AND THE SUN IS YOUR ENEMY!EVRY CREATURE ON THE PLANET LOVES THE SUN BUT U
FLpolo 2 years ago
LOL. All I have to do is watch the stupidity of your posting style to know your pineal gland and melanin claims are foolish.
Salsassin 2 years ago 8
The oldest mathematical artifact known to man is the ishango bone which is the first piece of evidence of algebra, found in south africa. Look it up, thats not even mentioning the iron smelting that was taking place in africa before anywhere else or the domestication of animals. Or the masonry that allowed houses & pyramids to be built
NubiansRuledTheWorld 2 years ago
Its tru am from up north and black up north style way different am black and when i talk on the phone i have strong new york accent some people think am spanish because my accent and i get tired of it!
ANDREW26101 2 years ago
we where all over
2black4music 2 years ago
we are all AMERICAN
not fucking black, asian, hispanic, european,
AMERICAN.....
atlasperros 2 years ago
How do you expect to be respected when you are high on crack all the time (in all of your videos) and can't even put two words together. Your the one bad apple in the bunch that spoils the rest.
leadtech000 2 years ago
right on brother...speak the word...and let those who are ignorant and racist waste in their own waste
figebornu 2 years ago
What the hell are you talking about? Are you on drugs in this video? You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Hahahaha! Another insecure afrocentrist who doesn't know anything.
OuiTresJolie 2 years ago
Do you know what latino and hispanic means? Who told you that you were latino or hispanic? You just look like an regular African American or maybe a Jamaican. Definitely NOT Latino or hispanic. If you're not from Brazil, Haiti, Dominican Republic, Colombia, Cuba, Venezuela, Mexico, Nicaragua, or any other country that was colonized by Spain/Portugal and mixed with the people, then you aren't hispanic or black. Some ppl are so dumb!
OuiTresJolie 2 years ago
hoe azz nigga shut the fuck up
1msbracey 2 years ago
Is that supposed to be threatening. By your sentence (if you want to call it that) and your spelling, I see the lack of education and intelligence. Haha. Idiot.
OuiTresJolie 2 years ago
whites apes have flat butts and are hairy. which race are hairy with flat butts and look like the cave men?
holleywood69 2 years ago
I think you are stupid. Say it to my face bitch. Your time is up Bitch.
holleywood69 2 years ago
Whites are not too bright . Imitate everything someone do tell your white women to leave us alone.
holleywood69 2 years ago
this brotha has some huga ass lips,lol
smartmexicanguy311 2 years ago
that is what people say when they have no facts to dispute his fact, Knowing you will get you ass kicked if you stepped to him.
holleywood69 2 years ago
Are you high in this video? You must be on something. You don't even make any sense.
melsam81 2 years ago
Give people time, the truth is coming out
SpeakTruthOrShutUp 3 years ago
fuck you my skin is brown not fucking black stop your propiganda fuck you and your false statements you dont know what our people went threw shut up already
az123teca 3 years ago
You are very ignorant. How did your skin get Brown? If the first man was Black then how did you get Brown? Stop bashing, just think about how dark your people were before White European Spainards raped your ancestors.
BlackYahshua 3 years ago
oh hell na are u fucken stupid u dont know shit about the color of our skin. the color of our skin is the color of our ancestors in mexico theirs meztizos whow carry the native color skin and corollis whow have the eurotrash(white) skin. theirs many time were the parents are both white and will have a brown kid=meztizo and were the majority our ancestors genes have never left us so dont give me that bullshit about mixing.
AnimeEric 2 years ago
You know good and well white people do not have brown babies. Dog you only need to look at the pictures that the early Central Americans left of themselves. They were dark some even black. Now you also know that the only way your skin is dark or black is if you have African ancestors or if you are African. Since you are so smart I'll let you work out the conclusion.
BlackYahshua 2 years ago
"US" who the fuck is "us" fool the only people in denial are your black people stop disgracing my peoples and our culture you idiot get it threw your head there was no black people in the americas until your own people solfd you out to the whites there is no"us" fool you dont' have anything to do with MY culture dont be made cuz the only thing you were good for was for bieng putos keep my indio tribes out your nasty mouth you dont have a real culture stop trying to steal ours your pathetic
az123teca 3 years ago
You aztecs were SLAVES too. You have no culture except what the raping, savaging Spain gave you. YOU are native putos. Worthless, broompushing, coconut rollin' uneducated monkeys. Some folks are misguided as to the connections between "aztecs" (WTF ever) & Black people. Keep sucking the wm's ass, and when he turns on your monkey a-, pls don't beg the black man to march for you again! Yah will pay us for our work, as HE will yours.
hotmessathighnoon 2 years ago
lmao i have way more culture than your SELL OUT RACE YOUR OWN MONKEY TRIBES SOLD YOUS OUT TO THE WHITE MEN AND FUCK WHITE PEOPLE WHO THE FUCK SAID WE KISS THERE ASS LMAO YOU SHOULDN'T BE TALKING YOU WELL FAIR CHECK COLLECTING MONKEY AT LEAST WE DON'T LIVE IN STACKED APT. BUILDINGS LIKE YOU MONKEY HOES DO YOU DIRTY APE MOTHER FUCKER HAHAHAH YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT AZTECS CHANGITO SO WHO ARE YOU TO SPEAK ON THAT TOPIC
az123teca 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
IM WHITE and i love black people! i think mexicans are racists. you make you people look bad when you are racists. i know mexicans are hated worse than black. as a white man believe. i hear people say spick in public, most people wont dare say nigger in public although they do. i GUESS the difference is its excepted to hate mexicans because people think you are taking their jobs. IM NOT RACIST AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALL COME TOGETHER.
IFYOUCANTHINK77 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion about other groups but Mexicans are not Hispanic.
Hispanics are the original people of Spain so I think it's funny when people try to insult Mexicans by calling them "spic".
Mexicans are actually Indians (Aztec, Maya).
PriestessLeah 2 years ago
retard but the term spic exists cos of mexicans etc not cos os spaniards so i dont see why this is funny
SpainEurope1000 2 years ago
PriestessLeah how are hispanics the original people of spain?? u sound dumb
champ9601 2 years ago 5
Wrong. People from Spain are Spanish. People from strongly Spanish influenced cultures are Hispanic. Mexicans are Mestizo. And depending on the region a huge chunk of Mexico is more European in ancestry than it is Native. To deny their European roots and only acknowledge the Native roots would be wrong.
Salsassin 2 years ago 10
HAH! I completely agree! I still acknowledge my white side XD
NeCacaluXuxultic 2 years ago 10
This comment has received too many negative votes show
no hispanic is pure spaniard and people mixed of spanish descent. isaying people who are hispanice because they are influenced by spanish is like saying black people are brittanica because they are influeced by anglo culture.
Xochitpilli 2 years ago
Spanish people are obviously Hispanic as well. But All Hispanics are not Spaniard. No, not all people influenced by Spain are Hispanic. Only the ones that have their core culture influenced. And yes, there are Blacks that are Britannic, or Anglo in culture.
Salsassin 2 years ago 11
This comment has received too many negative votes show
What do you mean by cor culture influence. Yes you are right only the spanish people who descended from hispania are hispanic. However what I'm trying to say is people who are full native descent and influenced hispanic culture are not hispanic. look at my page and click on the video that says identity for mexicans,central americans, native americans.
Xochitpilli 2 years ago
Wrong again. Hispanic means of Spanish influence. Obviously Spanish people influenced themselves. They also culturally influenced others. The vast majority of Mexicans, Central Americans identify as Hispanic. Some have a stronger Native Identity, some identify with both equally.
Salsassin 2 years ago 15
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Oh ya i also think influence has nothing to do with identity. There can be two very different cultures and they can influence each other. Like An Italian culture and can influence a black-american culture but the the italians will always be italians and the blacks will always be blacks. Sometimes a culture will itself onton another culture, just like what the conquistadors did.
Xochitpilli 2 years ago
Wrong again. It depends on level of influence. If it affects core cultural traditions, then it becomes a part of the culture. Black Americans adopting some Italian traits is very different from them adopting the language, foods, etc. Blacks in Italy are still Italians.
Salsassin 2 years ago 11
F***** you are good at arguments!!! I already lost and I haven't even debated you on the word "Hispanic".....F******
NeCacaluXuxultic 2 years ago
@Salsassin Hispanic means of Spanish influence? Hispanic or hispano (in spanish) has COMPLETELY been miss use in the U.S, Hispanics are people from ancient Spain, also known as Hispania. Mexico and all the way to Chile are NOT hispanic. It's like saying that all white people in the U.S that are of English descent are British, because they came from ancient England also known as Britannia.
cthunder1000 1 year ago
@cthunder1000
Let me know when you actually publish a dictionary. I could care less what your interpretation is. The word has a definition, and those people fit within that definition. And it is not all White people in the US. It is every English as a primary language speaker in the US that is Anglo (short for Anglophone). JUst like I am Hispanic as Spanish is my primary language, they are Anglos.
Salsassin 1 year ago
Was this the argument u was telling me about about salsassin? Dawm homie lol u got soo many thumbs down along the other ppl i bet u salsassin was behind this lol..
EZ3Xicano 2 years ago
oh ya if you see the video then don't think i agree with all of there views.Just some or most. i just wanted to point that out.
Xochitpilli 2 years ago
@Salsassin
Then why don't we call them britannic or Anglo? And even if we did we would still acknowledge that their strongest heritage is their African heritage.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
We do. Anglo Caribbean, I have also heard Afro-Saxon, and many other terms.
Anglophone is the official term
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
Yeah but you don't hear those terms as much as you hear hispanic and latino. Plus none of those people would put "Anglo" as an before "Black".
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
That is because of what cultural choices they choose to congregate to. THe QAnglo Caribbean is 90% African. So it makes sense that African identity would be strong. But in strongly mixed populations, where culture is the most important common ground.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
So what about Mexico and Central America where about 90% of people are of indigenous ancestry? Does this not apply to them?
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
There is a difference in having 90% Ancestry and Having 90% who have some ancestry.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
Black Americans have some African ancestry.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
Black Americans created their ethnic group based on segregation. It would become the most dominant force of their identity
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
But they are not all black they have European ancestry. The most dominant force of Mexican/Central American culture is indigenous so shouldn't that be the same for their identity.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
Around 13% per person Average. And they were segregated because of their ancestry creating a distinct culture. In contrast Mestizos were incorporated into main stream society. Thus the vast majority of people of pure to mixed ancestry have the same exact culture. With pockets of indigenous culture where SPanish is not the first language.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
African Americans are not segregated now, so are they mulattoes/britanics now? And who's to say Mestizos were not segregated?
Mestizos were "incorporated" the same way blacks were- through slavery, terror, book burning, and laws outlawing native culture. But still the native culture persists.
They do not have exactly the same culture. You make the mistake of generalizing and not appretiating diversity that you so resent when done by others when you make this claim.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
Wrong again. The ethnic culture was already formed. Even when segregation is gone the ethnic group is fully formed. Mestizos were not incorporated the same as Blacks as they intermarried much more extensively and Mestizos occupied various echelons. They had the same culture. Not always the same class, but it was the same culture.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
"Mestizo" culture varies regionally. It's not all the same. Intermarriage's role is often exaggerated. We only have documentation of elite natives marrying Spaniards for weatlh. I think these "marriages" were illegitamite/rapes. Blacks occupied various echelons too. There were field slaves, house slaves, and free blacks.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
IT varies regionally, but those regionalisms are based off Spanish language interaction. Your claim on intermarriage is false. After the initial wave of conquistadores, we had mnay of the general civilian population who migrated and belonged to the lower classes. They intermarried as well. Blacks occupied various echelons in the USA, but with a segregation from whites in ever echelon.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
There is no better form of segregation then indian reservations. But if you go to one, you will find the people have substantial white admixture, yet they are not called (nor do they identify as) mestizos. The very term Mestizo is from the caste system (segregation). In Cuba, a children born of a Spaniard and Taino was called mestizo, but the Tainos called them Guajiro, literally "Our people".
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
THere weren't Indian Reservations in Latin America. Many American mixed Natives became part of the White mainstream. Mestizo existed way before the caste systems. The earliest record of usage I have seen was a Jewish Egyptian in the 1300's. Guajiros also speak Spanish and share culture through that language.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
I was talking about the indian reservations in the United states. The mixed blood people in the US are still viewed as "indian". You are right that it existed, but not in the way it is used today. It was a completely different term because it had a different historical and cultural context. When i mentioned Guajiro I was talking about the Tainos view of mixed children not necessarily what Guajiros are like today.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
Only the ones that choose to stay on reservations. Mixed bloods have assimilated into the mainstream as well. Mestizo still just means people that are mixed. The casta systems are long gone. The Guajiros today speaking Spanish and having the same culture as the rest speaks towards the point of cultural diffusion.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
No. Indians who live off of reservations still retain their identity. The may feel disconnected from their roots but they know they are still Indian.If Mestizo means people that are mixed then everyone is Mestizo. The Spaniards, Natives, you, me, Europeans, Africans, cave men etc. If this is what Mestizo means then it is meaningless as an identity/label. Casta laws are gone but their effect remains just like in India. And again I was not referring to modern Guajiros.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
Wrong again, Genetics in the White populations clearly show Native Admixture. And Mestizo directly applies to populations that form from separate populations. No, not all people are Mestizo. The debate is about modern people, not what you wish were modern that occured in the past.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
Here is a list of Mestizo people(s):
Whites with admixture you mentioned, Me (My mom's Italian dad's Irish). Spaniards (they have Iberian, Celtic, Visogothic, Roman, and Moorish ancestry) English people ( Angles, Saxons, Normans and Britons). Japanese people (Yayoi and Ainu). Egyptians, Italians, Jews, Arabs, French people, Malagasy, East Indians- not one is pure. All Mestizos.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
As Italian and Irish were not seen as divergent populations when they married, and I highly doubt she they were actually from those countries but just Americans with those ancestries, where Whiteness as an identity was formed, nope. Many Spaniards are definitely a Mestizo people. So are many Anglo-Saxons. Not all. Same for the rest of your examples.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
Not long ago Irish people would be outraged if a loved one was engaged to an Italian, and maybe vice versa. Not too mention, both groups were not originally considered whites. Could you give me some examples of English and Spanish people being considered Mestizo? Does this mean you can be Criollo and Mestizo at the same? Obviously levels of Admixture vary between individuals of each of the groups I mentioned. Certainly though, very few are "pure".
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
Not long ago, like 100 years ago. Sure. But you don't live 100 years ago. English people being considered Mestizo? Plenty of descendants of immigrants to Spain. Less with England. We see Metis populations in Canada, but in England you just see Half Castes as individuals, not as populations.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
Metis are granted aboriginal status by Canada, despite being Francophone, mixed heritage, and culturally influenced by Europeans. Segregation?
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
They are granted it, not forced to accept it. Many Metis do not live in reservations or what not. There is a difference.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
No there really isn't. Whether they live on reservations is irrelevant. The fact is they are granted aboriginal status. The people in CarlosDC's videos are not even offered that option when it should be available to them. Carlos is aggressive in getting them to consider a new identity because they have been taught from birth to avoid it at all costs.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
A population remains ethnically Mestizo until all elements of the mixture are accepted as mainstream. The English pretty much have become one peoples, Spain a little less so. Japanese are mixed in the North, not all Japanese. Malagasy definitely.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
No society in the world consists of people who are all exactly the same. This what it sounds like your suggesting when you say all elements of the mixture become mainstream.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
Nope. It is all about perception. So long as the mainstream society sees them as the same, then they are.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
But who set up the conditions for society to think that way?
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
History, cultural trends the majority population, the community in power. History is like that.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
Jews should just get over this holocaust then right? It's history. Israel has been justified in robbing and murdering Palestinians because of the Holocaust. Book after Movie after Museum is pumped out about the Holocaust. Yet the minute someone mentions this they are shot down.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
As I said veries by culture. But nice try.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
What are you referring to?
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
At minimizing the Mestizo experience by claiming all people are Mestizo.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
Do you really think any person in the world does not have multiple linages in their whole ancestry? Aside from nomadic groups who has not adopted traits of another culture?
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
Within the last hundred years or in any level to sufficiently impact their cultural outlook? 100% I do.
Salsassin 1 year ago
Comment removed
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@Salsassin
Regional variation also has to do with the local indigenous cultures. Jalisco=Huichol Sonora=Yaqui Guatemala= Kiche etc.
If there was more admixture in Mexico and Central America than in America, so what? What made immigration possible was the holocaust committed that ensured European control of the land.
It is a double standard to require mixed identity for one group and not another.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
Yes, but common ground was not through those indigenous cultures. SHaring of culture and commonality was achieved through SPanish language communications.
Regardless of how much you want to play the victim for historical abuses, which have occured through millenia, the fact remains that ethnic trends did and do occur, and those ethnic trends are labelled. Hispanic is a label for those cultural trends that spread through Spanish language diffusion.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
I'm not denying ethnic trends occured. They did and the majority happened BEFORE the Spaniards arrived. People were interacting and trading just as much or more for thousands of years before Columbus. MesoAmerican cultures already had common ground that continues to exist today in the Olmec civilization.
It is incorrect to say the colonization of the Americas was like any other "historical abuses". If you could refer me to a similar case I would appreciate it.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
Sorry, but ethnic trends only last as long as they go from parents to children. You can claim 2 million years and it still ends the moment that a parent does not give that information to the child. What is relevant is what culture has been imparted to the present. Except for the disease aspect, colonization of the Americas was no different than conquest by Romans, Moors, or other cultures. Disease caused a major population decrease.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
You make it seem like all indigenous "ethnic trends" were wiped out which is wrong. Yes disease is what differentiates the invasion of the Americas from other events in history and contrary to popular belief, disease was not always spread by accident. Europeans knew all about disease and how it spread and if they cared they would make an effort to stop its spread and not do things like say give blankets infested with small pox to native americans.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
Sorry, but the small pox blankets were spoken in theory by ENGLISH, and no evidence ti was carried out. No evidence the Spanish did so.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
There are historical references to deliberate uses of blankets to spread disease. I just searched "native american small pox blankets" on google and fifth site confirmed this. When Vasco Da Gama explored what's now the Am. Southeast he let loose a dozen pigs. Why in the world would he want to free his pigs?
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
Go look them up again. Look for the primary sources. There is correspondence about possible acts, but no evidence it occurred. Source for your Vasco de Gama claim.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
All of these facts are mentioned in 1492 by Charles C. Mann. The primary sources are listed in the book's bibliography.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
It is 1491. I have the book, and there is no such claim for Vasco de Gama. He mentions De Soto, but no purposeful release of pigs
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
Okay you are right its 1491 and De Soto. But he did mention that pigs were brought and released by him. It's at the beginning of Inventing by the Millions. In the first paragraph it says he was a rich indian slave trader looking for new lands to conquer so you can guess he had bad intentions. I'm not assuming it was on purpose but judging by his character its much more likely than if it was someone lese.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
No it does not. The book hypothesizes that only a few escaping would have been enough. Nor is there any evidence that De Soto would have been aware of the risk of said devastation. Knowledge that would be acquired much later through experience as seen by the English writings. So all you have is wild speculation.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
Sure it is speculation but i wouldn't call it wild. Regardless there are documented cases of disease being deliberately spread, one example being to the Delaware people.
All you need to know is that Europeans saw first hand the damage they could do to the natives when they landed in the Carribean. They knew what they were doing.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
Claiming a soldier would know about porcine diseases in the New World when he wasn't a doctor, had no clue about long term infectious capacity and nothing like it had been seen in the old world for centuries? Yeah, I would call it wild speculation. Spaniards would have not been privy to their own disease spreading capacity until much later. For all they knew, these were just epidemics that were local. No reference point.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
Local epidemics which spread like forest fires at the time that conincided with there very arrival.
Biological warfare is documented in Hittite texts and was used against the city of Caffa by the Mongols. Europeans were not nearly as naive as you'd like to think.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
Again, nice try. Old worlders knew that extremely unsanitary events and allowing bodies to fester, could lead to ANY person getting sick. It was common knowledge. They had no idea at the time that they could be immune to various diseases that could wipe out entire populations because their bodies were carriers.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
Obviously, but they saw the effects at initial contact and it didn't seem to bother them. If you don't act to stop evil acts then you are affectively aiding in them.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
That is a objective fact, not an emotional diatribe.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
It's not a fact its a view point which originated as a political strategy.
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
No one in the world can say they are pure. Everyone is a "Mestizo".
iamthebest91 1 year ago
@iamthebest91
Wrong. it is not a view point. The fact is they speak Spanish and the fact is that cultural transmission occurs through that language.
Salsassin 1 year ago
@Salsassin
The fact is what united the various African slaves into Black Americans was the use of the English and the fact is that cultural transmission occurs through that language.
iamthebest91 1 year ago