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  • CHRISTIAN METAL SUCKS DICK and who ever the fuck says tokis jesus in disguise is a fucking dipshit HAIL SATAN

  • @christiancoker1 Actually, I don't give a flying fuck about religion. I have considered the possibility of the lack of a deity. I think that it was put best in the film "Dogma", that ideas are much better than beliefs because they can be discussed and changed. Gotta love George Carlin playing a Catholic Priest. :p

  • lmao Toki *is* our lord and saviour!

  • i clicked on this video expecting good music and a little bit of comedy. instead i got shit with a side of shit, and an extra helping of shit

  • @BagTheMEAT So forget you saw it.

  • anyone knows the name of this cartoon???

    I'd like to watch it xD

    I like dethkolk's music a lot...

    I think they're a cool deathmetal band...

    By the way, they seem so similar to Lamb Of God or Slipknot, but they've got their own style...

  • @06galoen The music in the video is by the band Mortification. You can probably by DVDs of the Metalocalypse TV series and their albums online or at various retail shops.

  • Everyone who has posted under me about non-DethKlok related things is a faggot and must die.

  • @InsaneGuyX First off, I'm a dike. Second, I'll die when my time comes. In that sense, everyone must die because that is just how the cookie crumbles.

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  • @codomojump No. Just.... no.

  • Christian  and a metal fan!

  • JESUS CAN SUCK MY BALLS!

    SMITE ME DOWN BITCH! IM WAITING FOR YOU!

  • @mmorpgman101 You make me ashamed to say that I play MMOs.

  • you guys are idoits there are a lot of death metal bands that talk about god

  • Jesus = Long hair and a beard. Seems metal if you ask me.

  • ah the bible my favorite work of fiction

  • @DarkQueenEreshkigal Ah my Dark Queen, how original you are.

  • Skwikjhahasl Sqhjiuadfughe....you know that guy with the X-Plorer...what ever the hell his name is...he's my favorite!

  • @xSCARPIZAx Swisgard Swigelf or somesuch. I don't know how to spell it off the top, and I'm too lazy to look it up.

  • why is this song on the this video this is supposed to be the the coffee jingle and yes dethklok curses in alot of there songs and a shit load on the show boo hoo for you infact in on of there songs i beleive he says im a rocket a roman candle a fucking missle on its way to hell :D its in laser cannon deth sentence but they curse in other songs too

  • @LargoSama A.) Punctuation. 2.) Read the video description.

  • im a chirstan but i dont wanna hear about it in my DETH METAL. also the church has fabracated those belifes to justifie countless atrosites though out history. im what would be called in medevil times a "heritic" or "convert"

  • @dgmetalhead If you read through the comments, do you see me agreeing with any of the atrocities perpetrated by the Church? I am one of the biggest believers in the First Amendment of the US Constitution, in that state-run religions are ALWAYS full of fail.

  • Illuminati show, I've official stopped watching this Mind Control Satanist Garbage.

  • @PainlessTragedy What the hell does the Illuminati have to do with anything?

  • Actually, Jesus was a gangsta. 

  • @shermpinkstaff Fo' sho'.

  • dethklok is not christian. christian religion and story's is all bullshit and plagerism do some research people and that wasn't even the right song that was supposed to be the dunkin hills coffee jingle you all suck

    so in in the words of skqizgar you are all dildos

    ps christian rock, metal well anything christian sucks

  • @LargoSama Damn. If only all of us had your insight... just enough insight to READ the VIDEO DESCRIPTION.

  • Woops. 240 people missed the like button.

  • NO, JESUS IS TOKI IN DISGUISE

  • toki is the ringo starr of dethklok... and i love him for it

  • If Jesus really should have lived and was anything like the person most christians believe he was, then he should have been disemboweled, castrated and his genitals and entrails burned instead of nailed to the cross.

  • @skald9 I don't get it. I think Jesus would've been a cool cat. His "followers" have caused a lot of problems, and that was when Christianity became the state religion of Rome. As soon as Constantine mixed Christianity with Roman Paganism.

  • jesus was nots evens borns in decembers... kind of irrelevants buts i finds it interesting. he was borns arounds july, august, september... The holiday Christmas was invented to cover up the pagan holiday of the winter solstice, which christians thought to be sinfuls. if you dont's believe me, then thinks about this......... in december in jerusalem, it is winter and its cold. In the nativity scene, alls the peoples arounds jesus are wearing robes or summer close. why wear that in winter???

  • @peedro1121 You have a very good point. I always ruffle the feathers of pseudoChristians when I mention this.

  • horrible, dethklok music owns this song.

  • @whowhatwhenwatch Mortification came before Dethklok. Without pioneers like Mortification, we wouldn't have funny bands like Dethklok.

  • If Toki was Jesus in disguise he wouldn't suck

  • don't mix bad faerie tales with good shows or music.

  • awsome this is funny

  • this song is from mortification-scrolls of the megilloth..

  • whoa! I have'nt heard this song in 20 years!

  • toki isnt jesus in disguise non of them dont even beleive in a religion and they dont even care for god

  • ima christan but only to a level that i hate hate other christan cause they think THEY make the rules!!!!! the bible we have to day is FAKE!!!!! the last copy of the real one is with the pope!!!!!!

  • every kid has there metal part in him

  • If it brings people to Christ Jesus then it is positive. I see allot of "christians" here saying bad words. Dethklok as far as I know doesn't say bad words in there lyrics.

  • @XxbufferingsxksxX There are no "dirty" words in the Hebrew language. As such, it makes no sense that there are so many people who frown on the usage of certain words, but are perfectly okay with supporting death and destruction across the globe.

  • @musicmagelynn Animals kill each other.. If murder is done upon defense then it does make it ok. Now you probably still dont agree. Now I just killed a loved one of yours> now here is a gun. whats your next move.

  • @XxbufferingsxksxX Animals kill for food. If I though that was wrong, I'd be a vegetarian... but I likes me some red meat. Now, my next move is this: I report you to the police, and give them all the information I have. When they catch you, I implore the judge to keep you in prison to rot for the rest of your life to contemplate how horrible it is to end a human life.

  • @musicmagelynn it's called "unclean lips" in the bible and the specific language changes from generation to generation. It was never okay to support death and destruction across the globe. There was 1 commandment of genocide within the borders of Israel against people so perverted that they had sex with animals and burned their children alive in the name of their religion. That genocidal commandment ended with coming of the messiah.

  • @XxbufferingsxksxX they do in the Dethalbum II, I forgot their names but atleast 3 songs on that album have cursing in them

  • @XxbufferingsxksxX lol "im a rocket a FUCKING weapon" "My lawyer FUCKED me"

    dethklok aint no christian school bull shit. Im a christ fag but your the type that all the athiest assholes rip on

  • @XxbufferingsxksxX

    Well, in "Dethharmonic," Brendon says "In the form of income tax, I'd rather take a f$#%ing axe to my face, blow up this place, with all you in it, I'll do it in a minute."

  • @XxbufferingsxksxX ahhhaahahaha! omg, sorry, "oh your god", that made me laugh

  • @XxbufferingsxksxX Um, Dethklok curses ALOT on their songs and in Metalocalypse, but they're more centered around death, destruction, suffering and violence.

  • @XxbufferingsxksxX uhh yeah they do! look up the lyrics to "face fisted"

  • @XxbufferingsxksxX because Christianity has done so much good for the world.

  • @XxbufferingsxksxX i know of at least one instance, in the song dethharmonic

  • @XxbufferingsxksxX You are incorrect.

  • wtf this shit... dont fucking mix dethklok with Christianity fuckface

  • @Exodor1234 Okies. I'll get right on that.

  • @Exodor1234 Murderface did it.

  • christian metal is pretty fucking lame

    trying to be something its not. go ahead and delete my comment but you cant delete THE TRUTH!

  • @idontplayamusic What truth? Your misguided opinions about what is metal and what is not do not have any bearing on truth that there are some Jesus metal bands that are just f'n' awesome.

  • @idontplayamusic Dude, metal is a genre of music, which is to say that it is categorized mainly by it's instrumentation and overall sound. The lyrical content has little to do with that sort of classification.

    Consider this: There are countless sub-genres of metal that include themes like Arthurian legend, Norse mythology, the classical pantheon, and so on. Read the fucking Bible. There is a lot of shit in there that would inspire some pretty epic metal.

  • @idontplayamusic The Door can! "the Door can see in to your mind...the Door can see in to your soul!" Charlie: "really? the door can do that?" Unicorns: "No. hahaha"

  • @idontplayamusic you don't play music. you have no right to say what metals is and isn't.

  • jesus did not have long hair..it was disgraceful for jews of the time to have long hair

  • @REVAN2338 We've already discussed this. Look through the comments.

  • @musicmagelynn man I forgot about this comment and truthfully I don't really care man not to be rude

  • jesus is a walking long haired bleeding corpse. Thats Metal!

  • what the hell and the fucking jesus? its a brutal song by the way dethklok rocks

  • the drums are a fail

  • @Metal4EvahTv How? Because they don't drown out everyone else in the band like they do at most metal shows?

  • @musicmagelynn Nah but the snare sound is pretty crap, sounds like he's hitting a wooden plank or something.

  • @musicmagelynn because they're weak as fuck...just like everything else with this song.

  • Jesus was of middle eastern descent, lived over 200 years ago and was a carpenter. So if you think logically, he would have had a tanned complexion, he would have been physically fit, and quite robust, and because of the nature of a carpenter's work and the climate of the environment many of these men had short/shaved heads - hence Jesus being known to have long(er) hair, simply because it wasn't as short as other's...

  • @baradiel79 nope, ur wrong. its cuz he's metal

  • its Metals haha

  • uhm.. learn a bit please... Jesus isn't his name.. it's Yshua, and translated to Greek, would be Joseph.., he existed 2000 years ago... his last name isn't Christ, since Mary and Joseph's last name wasn't "Christ". "Christ" is Aramaic for "Savior" so, in reality, you're praying to the wrong person for salavation.. you should be praying to "Joseph the Savior".. Isn't religion fun?

  • the life of jesus is like Horus life

  • No! This is foolish. The writers of Zeitgeist cite no sources for any of it's ridiculous claims, moreover, the languages they claim to be translating are being translated incorrectly. Therefore, you should do some real research (with books and not crappy internet videos).

  • chill out i was joking because i saw a film religiolus

  • Huh. I had respect for BIll Maher because he actually seemed to have integrity. 'twould appear that he is no better than the ones who wrote Zeitgeist.

  • in your video description you said that you disabled comments to stop flame wars, and here, your nagging along with them fueling the war? xD

  • Meh. I let the ones that I like through about once a month. I'm not one for censorship, but after a thousand of the same old "God isn't real, atheists are the best, Jesus isn't metal" BS, it gets kinda old.

  • @musicmagelynn Jesus is actually the world's greatest metal player and vocalist.

  • MORTIFICATION!!!

  • We all know this; Metal = awsomeness!

    Jesus is definetly metal!

    But dethklok is a demonic band, I don't think Jesus would be singing about demons and souls being eaten O.o

    And I also hate how Dethklok is unknown. They're my favorite band, but yet many people have yet to relise the talent of these metal heads.

  • whats more metal than jesus, lets see, BUBBLE WRAP. yes bubble wrap is metal

  • Yes. Bubble wrap is metal. There was a time I scared the fuch out of some of my unit while I was in Iraq. A buddy of mine had ordered a guitar and equips online, and it came in a shit-ton of bubble wrap. I borrowed his M-249 while he got the bubble wrap ready to pop, and we ran through the tents pretending to shoot people, while laughing maniacally. So, yes, you are right. Bubble wrap can be metal.

  • Thats dumb...

  • If you say so. The members of my unit thought it was pretty funny when it was all said and done.

  • JESUS ISN'T METAL!?!? What's more metal than being nailed to a cross, stabbed, murdered...and then crawling out of your own grave?

  • good question......... idfk..... being Ozzy Osbourne is all i can say but even that's debateable :P

  • @KennethGivens well... if you put it that way... he is pretty metal then XD

  • @KennethGivens

    I want this quote on a T-shirt!

  • @KennethGivens Doing all that with an Iron Maiden Tshirt on? The wrong way round!

  • @KennethGivens ha ha u win

  • @KennethGivens dude you ahve a really good point

  • @KennethGivens LISTEN TO THE MISFITS RESSURECTION that will explain a shit ton 

  • @KennethGivens Bahaha! yes...

  • @KennethGivens I want to click on like but I don't want to ruin your 69 likes.

    But then maybe I should click on like and we can all aim for 666 comments. \m/

  • sorry dude but jesus aint metal

  • If Jesus isn't metal, then you must be emo.

  • No, Jesus just isn't metal. Odin might be Metal, Ares might be Metal, but if I could make a list of deities that are Metal, Jesus and his message of lovey-dovey kindness just wouldn't fit.

  • I must disagree. His entire message was one meant to shatter the eastablishment of the time. It was a message that made people angry, often to the point where they would try to kill him. Yet, through it all, he kept pressing onward. That is metal.

  • @musicmagelynn

    Jesus was really metal the time he was in the temple and got real mad and started breaking things and throwing tables.

  • @MiyasmaTube Jesus: "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother ... he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it." Sound lovey-dovey to you? Who will remember your name in 2000 years?

  • I agree with musicmagelynn.. The lovey dovey limp dick youre thinking of is Budha... Jesus was metal as metal can be! He was fucking CRUSIFIED!! how metal is that???!!!

  • Jesus dies nailed on a wooden cross and came back alive as a zombie. That is metal.

  • @musicmagelynn Preach it! And don't forget the gore. He was tortured, nailed to a cross, and finally impaled with a spear, went to Hell, kicked Satan's ass, ripped off his stuff (keys to hell), came back to earth . . . and inspired awesome bands like Mortification. Not to mention the long hair. JESUS PERSONIFIES METAL!!!! Metal is not about grabbing your ankles for Satan? Metal is about strength, code, and refusal to conform . . . Oh yeah, and gore

  • @AViator8698 Im pretty sure jesus was made of bread... read something about that somewhere.

  • holy (heh) crap! i had scrolls of the megiloth on both a christian metal sampler and some cd full of otherwise satanic music.

    i do know that northern storm by mortification came on death is just the beginning volume IV.

  • Ah... Northern Lights... that was an awesome sampler. It was where Extol got there start. Some people who call themselves metalheads just don't know their history.

  • i hate the fact that some of the best metal bands of all time have been cheapened to either being unknown to modern fans of metal, or WAY to mainstream to the point where the subculture disintegrates, in short, i guess 2 obvious exampls would be like Sepultura, and (sigh) Metallica

  • I concur, O Mighty Burninator.

  • ...There was a dude in the bible that had long hair...it gave him powers, till his wife cut it off..just puttin that out there haha

  • His name was Samson. He was written about in Judges chapters 14-16, methinks... but don't quote me on that. I'm just too lazy to look it up.

  • Albert Einstein proved god when he made the nuclear bomb, proving E=MC squared, how mass at rest=Energy, which god told the jews over 4000 years ago that he is ENERGY itself, and everything is made OF HIM, and he later told the newly founded Christians it over 2000 years ago, so can anyone explain how we knew this over 4000 years ago.? but we just learned it as FACT in the 20th century!?!?!!!!!!!!!!! this discussion should be over, if not then your as blind as AL GORE

  • Since the bible says only women are allowed to have long hair does this mean jesus was a girl? In fact he or she um it?! was probably black too wow how ironic jesus was the two things evangelical Christians hate the most ftw

  • As a transgender individual, I see God/dess in a not-so-gender-centric way. God is an entity that encompasses both and neither gender simultaneously, going beyond the lines and boxes society tries to put people in. As a Christian, this forces me to look past the fictional lines drawn by humankind, and love my neighbor as myself no matter who they are or where they've been in life, even if they claim to be my enemy.

  • I believe the old testament says that men are to not cut the hair from the sides of their face nor the top of their head; then, paul says that long hair on men is not alright (contradiction much?). As for Jesus of Nazareth, no one knows what he looked like, probably looked Arabic, seeing that he was of a Hebraic lineage. Evangelicals don't hate long hair on guys nor black people. There have been famous Evangelical men/boys that had long hair, and there are black people in evangelical churches.

  • The time of the Torah and the Apostle Paul were very different. Paul spent a lot of time in Europe, while the books of the law that are the Torah were written while Moses and the Isrealites were wandering in the desert. They were two very different times in very different places. I'm sure Paul had a reason for telling men that it was a shame to have their head covered, however, I'm not going to try to enforce that because it's not my place and I don't have a "why?" answered for it.

  • It also said samson the strongest man in the world only cut his hair once

  • samson never cut his hair. His bitch did it while he slept to betrayed him. his eyes were cur out and he was tormented but in the end he grew back his hair and used his strength to collapes the pillars of the court killing himself and all of his tormenters as well.... brutal and definatly metal!

  • @Drakkanon

    Jesus was born as human, a male human. But his spirit is nether male nor female. Same with his race, he is no color.

    But most males in the bible days had medium hair, not nessasarily short hair.

    (exuse me for my spelling)

  • Tokki Jesus??? LOL! no way the Bible says Jesus had a hair of wool it was curly or wavy and also it's a disgrace for men to have long hair like a woman. Also Jesus isn't white he is a Middle Eastern Israeli Jew. So he had a tan. But eh that is funny.

  • You pose a very interesting point, Mr./Ms. of Blood. However, we have no way of knowing what Jesus looked like, exactly. I know he probably wasn't pale and pretty like a large amount of Catholic art makes him out to be. On the point of long hair, there are many good Christian males that have long hair. If you try to tell them to cut it, they'll laugh in your face.

  • And anyone who has studied art of old from Catholic churches knows that Jesus was originally portrayed that way because they wanted him to be as beautiful as possible, beautiful by the standards at the time.. Sad how people 600 years ago knew that he probably didn't look like that but people these days can't handle him not looking pale and effeminate.

  • I know that Jesus didn't look pale and/or effeminate. He walked damn near everywhere he went, and did not have a specific place he called "home". He was one bad mutha.

  • I'm flattered that people are getting into flame wars on my video. Hippie love and hair grease to all, and to all a trippy night! :D

  • Haha. The guy who uploaded this vid is the only one thumbs downing people :P

  • I actually haven't been on since... Tuesday. Moreover, I'm not a guy. Even furtherover, I don't waste time with thumbs up and/or down on any comment.... 'cept for yours. I'll give you a thumbs down.

  • my opinion about jesus is better.

    jesus is metals because he has the long hairs

    wrooo!!

  • @frifrafrey that makes hippies metal. Hippies are not metal. Stabbing hippies is metal. Impaling hippies on giant forks is metal. Cutting the faces off of hippies then feeding them to ravenous dogs is metal. Hippies are not metal. Ergo, long hair is not necessarily metal.

  • lols jesus is metals because he has the long hairs 0:01 XD

  • fuck...i hate religious people. without religion i'm almost 100 percent sure our world would be without war. or atleast as much fucking war as we have now...btw im athiest so i welcome the hate mail :)

  • actually, your wrong. War is caused by resources and thats that. the government wont give a shit about your religious views.

  • LOL yeah okay buddy. whatever helps you sleep at night.

  • I hope you like dissapointment.

  • greatly said my freind. :)

  • WOOT, athiesm!

  • i was expecting a dub of them talking about douchebags but this is good haha

  • That was directed towards crawsomedoucheguy and anyone else that thinks he has logic when he opens his fucking mouth and makes words...

  • *watches everyone rage and post paragraphs justifying themselves*

  • Amen to that, DanWrightSauce. It's enough to justify breaking out the popcorn.

  • I dunno. I honestly didn't expect goat to go on as long as he has. He sent me a message claiming that I blocked him. Truth was that he was spamming according to Youtube's programming.

  • I accept you didn't block me and I also accet that You Tube probably has filters that shut off replies if someone posts a lot. (Like I did). But the content of my replies was hardly "spam".

  • Goat99 just shut the fuck up and go live your pointless life, you belive that earth is 14 billion years old? Why do you think that?

  • No, I had typed that the universe was that old. The Earth and our entire solar system is 4.55 billion years old.

    (This is me not shutting the fuck up)

    I don't "think it", I understand it.

    I don't believe anything, I don't accept anythying blindly, I either understand something or I do not.

    I understand the dating process that has been applied to rocks from both our moon, Mars, and from the Asteroid belt.

  • my appologies on the 14 billion years but you understood what i meant. my basic argument here is that you dont accept anything blindly? you beliving the universe is 4.55 billion years old is the same thing. there is no proof of that only theories, you can ask any collage professor and he will tell you that everything mathmatical and scientific is all just a theory. so you beliving in the science asspect of the history of the universe is the same as any other theory out there.

  • No, that is NOT accepting something blindly when it is a testable fact with repeatable and demonstrable results. There most certainly IS proof and the word "theory" in scientific circles does NOT mean "guess".

  • yes it does. and no there is NO proof of the earths age just estimates based on what they think their instraments tell them. but your just ignorant and bias. in an argument you have to look at both sides and weigh them out equally. i personaly dont belive in the cathloic church bullshit sacriments, they use god as an income. i belive more in what martin luther said which is my im lutheran. but beside that im able to look at your side of the story and combine it as we are right about the universe

  • Funny how you call me ignorant when you're wrong, as in incorrect, and so very obviously ignorant as to how those instruments work and how the data collected from them is interpreted. Instead of leveling a label like "bias" on me, or call ME ignorant, perhaps you should further your own education?

  • why the hell are you talking about energy = mass at rest on a dethklok video

  • lols I didn't remove your comment because of your SN and the funny physics joke. :p

  • yet god still created it 4.55 billion years ago. and there is no proof of how the universe started...

  • Again, partly correct, partly incorrect.

    OF COURSE there is no proof of how the universe in it's current incarnation started, but there IS evidence, and enough of it to formulate working theories - which again does NOT mean "guesses". A scientific theory is an explanation that is consistent with 100% of ALL known facts and is contradicted by ZERO known facts. If so much as ONE testable fact stands in contrast to a theory, it must be thrown out. That's why they haven't been.

  • And what you actually believe the earth is what 4 or 6 thousand years old or however old htose ignorant christians tell you it is?! You have no logic and don't speak of any facts from what I've read of your dumbass posts! So why don't you go get a life and check out some fucking FACTS!!!

  • faggot go read what i said to goat99 then get back to me

  • you dont bevlieve it is?

  • You niggas are retarded. Why would you sit on fuckin YouTube arguing about religion. Neither of you are gunna change the others mind. I think everyone has a different prospective of how things came to be and unexplained shit. Truth is no one can prove anything. It's all up to you to belive it or not. Btw God is real, it's just bitch ass greedy people that try to make money off of peoples belifes. Pope can suck my dick.

  • Normal logic: "I have a baseball".

    "Oh yeah? Prove it"

    *pulls out baseball*

    "Ok, I guess you have a baseball!"

    Religious logic:

    "I have a baseball"

    "Oh yeah? Prove it"

    "YOU CAN'T PROVE I DON'T!!!!

    THEREFORE I DO!!!!!"

  • macedmatt is absolutely right. Jesus is many things, but NOT metal.

  • There IS no "truth of Christ". The MAN either never existed at all, or he died like the rest of us 2000 years ago. Get over it.

    There is no god, never was, no spirit world, no soul, nothing beyond reality.

    YOU LIVE, YOU DIE, and THAT is brutal.

    Convincing someone they're going to survive death (can you say "oxymoron", boys and girls?) is just ABUSE.

  • To deny the existance of a creator, whether that being is an Intelligent Designer or the Yahweh that we know from the Torah, is simply ignorant. There is too much complexity to life as we know it for it to all have happened by chance. The human brain is comprised of some of the most complex chemical compounds in the known universe. Consider that before making such rash claims.

  • No, to attribute our existence to an invisible man in the sky is not only ignorant, but an appeal to magic rather than reason. Too much complexity for YOU to understand how it could have come to be over 14.3 billion years without a sentient mind behind it perhaps, but just because you can't understand it is no reason to say it's magic.

  • Also, you actually accuse ME of the "Rash claims"? Wow. Delusional.

    How about YOUR claim that there's a supernatural boogyman in the sky who we have to appease to live on after death? Look in the mirror to see the rash claimant.

  • Well, I haven't really made any rash claims, now have I? I'm not saying that it's some magic man in the sky. I'm just saying that there is a realm of things unseen whether you want to accept it or not. Else, where would our emotions and our reason come from? Chance? Fate? There are no such things. I think Sarah Connor said it best with the words "No fate but what we make.

    Good day sir and/ or ma'am.

  • Of course you've made a rash claim, as have ALL people who put stock in religious claims of human and/or universal origins. You speak of the "unseen realm" and speak condesendingly to me about "whether or not I want to accept it". There will ALWAYS be the unknown, but that does NOT mean it's unknowable nor does it mean it's supernatural. That is a human assumption based on ignorance, hope and fear.

  • What's more, you stated, and I quote: "Chance? Fate? There are no such things." And then you appeal to a fictional movie. Chance and fate are OPPOSITES. About emotions and reason; humans do not hold a monopoly on either; they are emergent properties of intelligence, which in turn is an emergent property of neurological complexity. Again, EVOLUTION. No sentient mind guiding the process.

  • So, just out of curiousity, what point are you trying to make? It sounds to me like your just trying to say that you're better than me. And, do you know what? You are. It's simple! You've got me into a corner that I cannot find a way out of, 'cept to say that we have a difference in opinion. If you would look past the mistakes that the human entity that calls itself "the Church" has made, you'd see a different breed of people altogether. You'd see a group that loves their neighbor.

  • I'm not saying I'm better than you. I'm saying the view of reality I hold does not appeal to gods and demons at work in the universe. Religion itself is the problem; born of humanity's greatest strength and weakness all rolled into one: imagination. It's just time for us all to outgrow the monsters under all our beds and live for this one life we can all agree we DO have. If indeed there be a god judging us upon our deaths, we at least can say we did no harm. (But there isn't one).