@TaAnonify Oh I see, you where there where you? Before the "Prods" turned up Ireland was a cultivated society. Brought us Mathmatics,poetry,education,engineering. Built the Pyramids etc. Come on get real the British peoples took over a lovely country full of backward savages.
@aranterranting Backward savages? You do know Irish history and culture, wrritings, etc is older than even the english history, culture, etc. Your the savages, you little piece of spunk.
its so ironic when the british media attempt to criticise casualties when armed resistance occurs. a union of nations, one in perticular, which is born from violence. there has yet to be a decade in which the UK has not occupied a foriegn land. A union guilty of genocide when considering international law and decree by the UN.
some protestants although a minority,are not brainwashed like the protestants who call themselves loyalists, but agree that they live in ireland, their ancestors were invaders centuries ago, but now the protestants should see themselves as Irish and join the nationalist demands for a united Ireland.
@lapajarcita Youre wrong mate..the cruithne and the ulaidh were in Ireland at least a thousand years before the first gael arrived..ergo they are the invaders!!
typical. the one who thinks the police are scumbags is the one with explosive charges. quite ironic. taking an armed struggle is wrong and you CANNOT justify it anyway. No matter how many bitches whinge saying "United ireland" It's still wrong. the difference between being british and irish is nothing. its not like your going to die from being one or the other, so theres no need for action. Dissident republicans are scum. Cannot be defended/respected in anyway no matter what.. terrorists.
@NationalKnights33 Ok so u want to be free from the life-guard of the UK-Treasury & free from the socio-economic benefits of living within the United Kingdom. Then what? Do u think Eire will come to your resue? A virtually bankrupt, brown-bag state struggling to remain in the euro, do u think they want or can afford you, when they cant even afford what they have? Tell me how u will fund this ''free ireland''??? Its obvious that sad little losers like yourself dont think thees things through, lol
I undestand protestant misgiings about Ireland being a Catholic republic. But I think the ideals of th 1798 united Irishmen could be brought back. We could have a secular United Independent Republic. One that bows to neither Rome or Westminster.
@TheTwollocks. Hastings is actually a Gaelic name corrupted to English form by English legal authorities in Ireland during colonial times. Just one more english crime in a long list. They tried to take our names away. My own mother' s name was an anglicised pseudo translation of an old Gaelic name. Luckily, I was able to trace back to the original form through the records.
I was fortunate enough to be able to visit northern Ireland few weeks ago. I've visited Londonderry, Omagh and Belfast. I was struck by its green land, its beauty and friendly people.
It is such a pity that NI has regrettable history of violence for such a lovely part of the world.....
@Tim5647 Your clealry a sad little bigot unable to grasp the reality that every recent survey shows a growing support amongst catholics for remaining within the United Kingdom. You clealry dont understand the economics of how Northern Ireland is totaly dependant on the UK-Treasury if u belive a majority of citizens here would vote to give up their soci-economic benefits to join a virtually bankrupt Eire that simply cant afford them. Please explain how u wouldl fund a united-ireland?
@uobcv Don't judge me you Orange bastard. We want nothing to do with you or your annexation of our land. We want to be with Dublin. Peter Robinson even recognizes the that by his desperation to try and attract Catholics, lol. Nobody wants to remain in an economically deprived part of the UK that the british government no longer wants.
@Tim5647 I notice u didnt actually explain to me how u plan to fund this 'free-ireland'. If as u claim 'nobody here wants to remain part of the UK' then why does every survey show the desire for unity is at an all time low, lol. 99% of protestants support the union, and your only kidding yourself if u think a majority of catholics will vote to give up their socio-economic benefits to join a bankrupt slum (Robinson knows this) So the reality is you want Dublin, but Dublin doesnt want you! How sad
@Tim5647 Peter Robinson (like any politician) is desperate to attract voters - any voters! But the union is safe, so if u want to see desperation, look at SF's new Unionist-Outreach-Programmes. SF know that to acheive unity they would need a large slice of Protoestant/unionist votes, so Marty is running around talking about his 'unionist brothers'. In other words they failed to bomb us into unity so now they want beg us into it. But even they know its a dead-duck when Eire dont want them! lol
Im not a dissident! But Irish Republicanism has always manifested itself through the Use of violence! The reason why is quiet simple! Britain has always coned Irish Republicanism out by saying it will only achieve its goals through Peace dialouge. The loyalists of what i seen don't want a united Ireland, Sinn Féin can't see this why? Blinded by their own light the INLA are correct. Take part and agree with the Good friday agreement but DON'T DECOMMISSION! Sinn Féin are NOT prepared for FUTURE
@DHSEASON4 Sinn Féin don't know what ideology they are following, is it Socialism,Nationalism or is it communism? One minute they are keeping the Yanks happy with Nationalism and then they met the likes of Gaddafi or Castro and are Socialis. Then one minute its marxism - (communism). Atleast could they be a bit transparent with things. One thing the aren't doing is caring about their supporters, do you see Gerry Adams knocking doors every month or Marty asking how you are NO!
@XxshughesxX Communism? Socialism is a very broad church, for godsake Labour in England call themselves 'socialist' yet they still blew Iraq to pieces.. SF are very much a socialist party, I can't see how you could disagree with this. They are not a nationalist party they are republican party. Also they have massive support and support which is constantly increasing so they must be doing something right?
@XxshughesxX Also on your last note they are full time elected reps.. be realistic are debate may be futile.. does anyone expect them to knock every constituents door and ask how they are? I don't.. and I am sure most right minded people don't. They do however have a full-time constituency office and so if you need help you can guarantee you can get it there
@DHSEASON4 lazy cunts im thinking of going down the politics road myself since i like voicing peoples opinion i might be standing for elections in a few years representing the hidden nationalists voice in Ardoyne and lurgan it could be 2years from now or 5 but if i do you will see a big change around... what socialists sit in an office and expect people to come to them every year sinn fein ask my father to stand he disagrees last year he voted indepedent over what mcguiness said
@XxshughesxX Its good that you consider standing because most people who are critical wouldn't have the courage to run themselves. Fairplay. The only thing is if you have support for dissidents then won't get elected. Like or lump it the vast vast majority of the community opposes them.. and rightly so.
@DHSEASON4 im not supporting the dissidents im going to support the people - simple as workers socialist power and im not thinking yet but in the near future and i could maybe shange my mine and run down south because i have family down there
@skoi87 what's up your hole,what makes nathan come across like that he spoke the truth and his mind.does it matter what age he is he is entitled to his opinion,. he lives in a place that has suffered greatly during conflict.lastly you say you hate sinn fein? "you havnt experienced conflict go fuck yourself sunshine" is something sinn fein would say.
@TheTwollocks their? you forgetting the fact there was a fair share of protestant people in the IRA kid.are quinsey and amizkar good english names? just asking.
I would like to see a 32 county state in Ireland. I suppose there will always be debate about it. Perhaps dual citizenship? Or just be like a British-Irish (if your unionist) like the Irish-Americans. Keep your culture etc. But Ireland is Irish.
The English gov. has 2 choices at this point A. they agree to allow a united Ireland separate from the UK to emerge through diplomatic means avoiding any more violence, or B. they are forced to by an army of suborn irish republican rebels using guerrilla tactics against conventional forces. I would go with the choice that allows the most negotiation for the status of citizens wanting to remain members of the UK.
@GoatSoup77 who starts a conversation with Oh Wow? Here's the news! Nobody gives a shit about republicans anymore, its not like to do anything but whine and look for self pity from people you do fuk all for at the end of the day. Here have a Cupp of Toughen the Fuk up with a Shut the Fuk up Digestive, your boring whiney insignificant wankers
Alot of talk of FREEDOM....are you not already FREE?
What more freedom would a United Ireland bring? This is clearly nothing to do with freedom and it never was. Most civil rights protesters will tell you they were happy within the United Kingdom they just wanted equal rights along with everyone else. That has now been achieved, we have a power-sharing government and a bright future for our wee country within the United Kingdom.
These people who keep causing trouble are wasters.
I wonder how long it's gonna take before loyalists wake up and realize how they have been PLAYED all these many years by england? "...hang all of them from the lamp posts..." it seems that hanging people is the way you show the world just how democratic your beliefs REALLY are! Bang your drum and flutter your ribbons and tripe...and goose step your hatred to another channel.
More Blind Little Bheggers thinking they can dictate to British in their rightful home land just as their predecessor did, they shall fail ,and hopefully get destroyed in the process ... Cait Trainor, Sean Malony constantly collect monies on the street for "their cause" or is it their Coke habbit ......
Also what about the 60,000 Protestants forced and evicted from their homes in Cork during the uprising?? and you want to know why Northern Ireland is so hostile to republicans! Irish Protestant were also forced from their homes and it had nothing to do with Land share' pure racism!
Saoirse 2011 u talk about 1614 or whenever but the true in the fact lies in that we are a country who are mDw up of Vikings, Normans or whoever the fuck else wanted to invade our country? Now. WhT r we really made up of and who really gives a fuck about England? made
The 1641 massacre of protestants is a myth, Sir Charles Coote had carried out massacres of native Irish people at Wicklow,Clontarf,and Carrickmines,upwards of 5000 catholics were killed by him,Irish rebels in Ulster killed about 1600 protestants in retaliation.In recent studies(2010)the foremost historians in the world have concluded that the protestant massacre story was inspired by propaganda and was used as a false pretext for killing the native Irish and confiscating their land
@0101100101100 1641 Massacre estimate two hundred thousand dead. Massacre spread, lead and executed by the Roman catholic clergy and priests and other professed Irish Roman catholics.
@runevidgeek3 Still on about shite 500 years ago numpty? There were seven attempted murders over the 12th this year alone by knuckle dragging fucking Nazis like you, get up to sped u gobshite!!
@0101100101100 Are you for real? No one on planet earth has committed /commits more atrocities on human kind than the Roman universe
church. History records over fifty million innocents tortured and murdered by the Vatican.
Proof and pudding: The protestant population in the ROI was decimated after partition while the Roman Irish population grew and prospered in the north. Sell your LIES to the ignorant s.
@runevidgeek3 Get me ONE shred of proof from any protestant in the South that claims they have been discrimainated on grounds of religion, now the history books are FULL of details on how the Orange NI statelet keep the native irish down, SELL UR LIES to the ignorant u fuckwit lol!!!
@MyCammyboy and do it too every brittish soilder as well that have murdered thousands off people in other countrys in the world including ireland. brittish terrorism has to be stopped!
The 32CSM say SF has sold out, their very spokespersons said the same thing in 1986 when provos were spilling their blood on Irish streets and these lay abouts were crying into their pints...FAIL FAIL FAIL!!!
@BINOMIALBOB1 what did u turn your comments off on your channel 4 u fuckin PUSSY...Who gives a flying fuck what u think u spastic go bury your face in a fire
Cait "...we don't need the public to rubber stamp the Republican movement..." @ 6.15 of the video. YES YOU DO. Sinn Fein lied to us. They took us into a fourty-year-war and for what? For nothing but their Armani suits. And now, Gerry Adams smelling the scent of failure fucks off to the south. One thing is certain: the people, and I mean ALL the people in the six-counties do not want a return to the guns & bullets & bombs. A cease fire will rally a huge proletariat drive to your cause.
There must not be any rioting, criminals are using riots as excuse to keep grip on their criminal empire. There is amnesty to terrorists who committed terrorism before Good Friday Agreement. Don't let historic inquiry team take you back to war.
"We don't need the Public to approve the Republican movement"??? And these RSF morons call themselves a Political movement?? Not big on Democracy though, unsurprisingly!
And "We have a Mandate dating back to 1798.." Then it's not a Mandate Fuckwits! You ONLY gain a Mandate from the PRESENT Electorate! Otherwise we'd still have Slavery and Serfdom ya brainless twats!
These Dissadents are just an embarassing annoyance, who'll never achieve jack shit in NI & have Zero support in the ROI!
Two of those interviewed were arrested at the start of the week and charged with glorifying terrorism, this could be the turning point with these scumbags!
So you noticed the same things too? Good! I think most intelligent folk see these evil wee shites for what they are! You'll notice too, that there's FA support for violence on EITHER side, from those old enough & wise enough to actually remember the Bad oul days of the 70's, 80's & 90's!
These morons don't have so much as a "semblance" of a Political argument, and could be torn to shreds by either side in an actual political debate! That's why they don't participate!
now i must say i wouldnt want a united the euro is to the dogs plus you have to pay for health care why whould you want to do that. And i see a few people saying fuck all brits sure the interview was on a british tv show thats werid
The British government are naive if they think that the Irish will ever live under their yoke.SinnFein have become a puppet entity in the British occupation of Ireland,Sinn Fein know this and their days as a mouthpiece for British tyrany are numbered.
The Irish will fight the British forever,untill the cancer of British instigated voilence and interference ceases when they leave Ireland.
One thing that the Republicans will never admit is that the UK government has always said that when the majority in the north want it, then Ireland will unite. This has been enshrined in UK law since 1949. Re-iterated by the Heath government in 1970 and now again reinforced in the GFA. The other myth is this oft publicised "british occupation" myth. Ulster is already occupied by the Irish. Many of these just happen to be Protestant who want to be citizens of the UK. Democracy MUST prevail.
Yeah good argument Sean, lol, PSNI are anti Catholic scumbags for raiding your house looking for weapons and explosives for which I take it you have been convicted. Time for you lot to shun the brain washing scumbags that are leading you back down the harden path of destruction that for too long now has proven, does NOT work.
There is nothing wrong with Irish Republicanism, it's perfectly legitimate to want a united Ireland, but that goal will only be achieved peacefully, through democratic means. Terrorism won't achieve anything.
Can anyone under the belief that the economic situation in the 26 counties is relevant to Irish unification please catch up on some light reading on the topic. Republicans throughout Ireland are campaigning for revolution, not simply having the illegitimate 26 county Free State government extend their reach over a further 6 Counties. The biggest critics of Republicanism on youtube are those who know nothing about it.
@rampersnotallowed very mature mate,if the videos are shit dont watch them nobody is forcing you to,if you were on my channel and can read proper you would clearly see my age,maybe your smoking to much of what bob marleys knowing for.your the kind that would rather supply drugs to the upcoming generation.
Seriously dont you think all this propaganda crap if it wasnt published then it wouldnt become an issue with the young naive upcoming generations?? I am protestant well I dont go to church I dont fully agree with the loyalist marches but I am what I am and dont cause issues with other regilions I actually dont really care about regilions, but when I see things that like you have posted here which is all one sided silly generation fuelled it makes me sad. Time to move on mate!
My comment about Bob marley wasnt to do with drugs I actually am totally against drugs it destroys life but unfortunately its in our generations and needs to be stopped. I mentioned it as the guy is cool calm and collect I read an article in a shop waiting fora hair cut and it just cam into my head when writing that comment!
I didnt exactly search for these vidoes I got to them from link to link on you tube, now thats concerning!
Why does some in Northern ireland want an all ireland but the southern people dont actually give a dam what is it going to give for the better??
Why would anyone in N Ireland want an all Ireland anyway the republic is screwed for the next 10years+ financially, they got all the money pumped in from the EEC expanded now burst. Its like if british people should live in the qeens backyard, then the so call want a be Irish should live in the south. Think about it isnt it really silly??
Any normal person in Northern British Ireland doesnt get harassed its just the repeater scum of this tiny islands generations that has hate does, little boys and girls grow up and move on, Gerry and Martin knows it wont happen, jes why would you want to join the republic anyway its clean screwed for the next 10 years join a failing euro and failed economy.
Wise up or move down south then, if you want it so much, then say it nice down there!
Ok I'm an American....so I have just got to ask.....why all the chaos? the bombings?
I know half of Ireland is free, and half isn't...... so why can't the U.K. just let the other half go? What's so important that all this fighting must continue?
@ScoobieD0 yeah, you're right. It's as simple as that, mate. The UK just lets the other half go and then it's all OK. Because what's been happening is the UK really ENJOYS pumping billions of £s into Northern Ireland (more per capita than any other part of the UK) just to really annoy the catholic minority there. It's got nothing to do with the majority of Ulster wanting to remain British and the civil war that would have ensued had we pulled out, or anything like that.
The Provisional Republican Movement sold out. The root cause of conflict in Ireland is British occupation. Over centuries it has been proven that generation after generation will rise in resistance. Until the British occupying forces and the capitalist dummies are removed resistance will continue, the current political parties and indeed the entire political set-up in Ireland fails to deal with that. The fight will continue R.IRA
@FreeIreland18 I'm sorry, but Republicanism is dying. More and more and you being seen as individuals. Look at the last demographics, 52% of Catholics would vote for Unionism. Please explain how you plan to get a UR now?
@flemmy1916 those scumbags are a joke.did cait get that jacket from her granny,the little whore.most of them gimps were strung out on shit which dissident scum sold to them.sean and muppet in white tracksuit and the retarded gimp in derry should have smoked joints to relax them.at least one of them hoods is touting to special branch.are you the spiritual leader of the dissidents on yt ?
Sad truth is the more they push without regard for unionists, the more resistant unionists become.
Its no coincidence that the orange working class became defendants of the establishment, this was the dynamic that allowed Britain to successfully colonise Ulster in the first place. The establishment & protestants haven't always had the same values but have always had a common enemy, the Irish nationalist. This dates back to colonial settler/native times.
@canyonerodriver "the very fact that they feel apathetic about the supposed miraculous peace says a lot more than their lack of support for militant groups"
Um... what??? I don't understand what you meant there.
@canyonerodriver If you live in Ireland, and I presume you do, you should know how mild the desire for reunification is among the Irish population. Take the Good Friday Agreement. Only 56% of the electorate turned up to vote, and 94% of voters approved the constitutional amendments that recognised Northern Ireland as part of the United Kingdom. What does that tell you? Half the Irish people overwhelmingly desire peace over ending partition, and the other half couldn't even be bothered to vote!
@padraic2001eire Sorry, you cannot categorically talk for the whole of the Republic when you say they have no will for reunification. Is there any border poll to back this up? Or, infact, any poll? I understand there are much greater concerns, as there is too for many nationalists in Northern Ireland (including myself), but there's a difference between a long-term aspiration (in an environment where everyone is catered for), and wanting to bulldoze through a "brave new Ireland."
@clionaism I never said the whole of the Republic have "no will for reunification". If you look at my previous comments, you'll see that I support a unification. However, the fact is that the desire for unification among MOST of in the Republic is so anaemic it could be compared with their desire for the US to leave Iraq and Afghanistan, or the creation of a Palestinian state. They might support it when someone bothers to bring it up, but ultimately they don't see it as affecting them much.
Yes & thats the way it's been since partition broke the nationalist movement, destroying any vested interest people in the new, stable Republic had in the dysfunctional Northern state. People generally need to be directly affected by something to galvanise them into desire for change, as they never were affected by NI's mess, this gives way for general disinterest. However I was merely backing up canyonerodriver in that unoffical polls do suggest favour for reunification, even if not a priority.
@clionaism caonyonerdriver says he rejects the Good Friday Agreement, despite it being democratically approved North and South. He believes the state of Northern Ireland and its institutions should be dismantled, despite not living there, because it is 'illegitimate'. How would he feel if the majority of the people in the British Isles (that is, Britain and Ireland) claimed the Republic was illegitimate, and demanded it and its institutions be dismantled?
Well, I don't. It has helped bring a peace & equality to my generation that NI has quite literally never known. But better than me have rejected it and I understand the principle of being against it. It was more or less a means in which to appease legitimate nationalist sentiment indefinitely. One thing we have learnt from Ulster through the 20th century is that the 'majority are right' mentality doesn't always reflect what's valid or righteous. Unfortunately it's not so easy to right wrongs.
@clionaism Well, as Churchill once said, "democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time." The Good Friday Agreement showed that the will of nationalists on the island for unity was not as strong as the will of unionists in Northern Ireland to remain part of the UK. And though you personally may not intend it, if you dismiss democracy you unwittingly bestow credibility on the actions of scum like the Real IRA and Continuity IRA.
Was NI not created via the flouting of democracy? Is this not at the root of why Republicans see NI as an illegitimate entity? Had the fundamental values of democracy been adhered to, NI would not exist. If they had of merely revised & not fully pandered to a minority, completely undermining democracy - it would be at most a 4 county state. The GFA showed that the will for peace was stronger than for unity, it's nothing to do with the strength of support between unionist & nationalist camps.
@clionaism As I said in a previous comment, I don't think the creation of Northern Ireland was part of some evil British imperialistic plan. It was an admittedly clumsy way of accommodating the two largest religious and political ideologies on the island - Protestant unionists and Catholic nationalists. Had a 32 county Home Rule government been created in the 1910s, there would have been an all-island civil war in which tens of thousands would have died.
@clionaism I wish Ireland hadn't been partitioned, but the fact is it was, and the onus is as much on Southern nationalists so eager for an independent state they were willing to allow the six counties to be segregated as it is on Ulster unionists willing to surrender Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan to create their majority in Northern Ireland. Catholics suffered in Northern Ireland, but don't forget, Protestants in Southern Ireland suffered too.
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karezza6 2 weeks ago
Up the Reals
karlmarx2010 2 weeks ago
There is a swap on here. we in Scotland ,take the NI Prods, you in Ireland take Glasgows tims back.
Not so keen now ?
NickerSkids 3 weeks ago
@TaAnonify Oh I see, you where there where you? Before the "Prods" turned up Ireland was a cultivated society. Brought us Mathmatics,poetry,education,engineering. Built the Pyramids etc. Come on get real the British peoples took over a lovely country full of backward savages.
aranterranting 3 weeks ago
@aranterranting Backward savages? You do know Irish history and culture, wrritings, etc is older than even the english history, culture, etc. Your the savages, you little piece of spunk.
CrazyIrishDrunk1 4 days ago
@CrazyIrishDrunk1 Learn to spell if your going to attempt the queens English you bog trotting pleb.
aranterranting 3 days ago
@aranterranting is that the best you can do? Is to attack my spelling?Your one sad little tramp.
CrazyIrishDrunk1 3 days ago
These scum should have been at Omagh just after the bomb went off. Seeing kids with their heads in pieces may change their minds.
aranterranting 3 weeks ago
I live in Lurgan <3<3
12beanss21 4 weeks ago
its so ironic when the british media attempt to criticise casualties when armed resistance occurs. a union of nations, one in perticular, which is born from violence. there has yet to be a decade in which the UK has not occupied a foriegn land. A union guilty of genocide when considering international law and decree by the UN.
AUnitedIreland 1 month ago 2
Free Ireland.
AtheismCentral 1 month ago
Not only does N.Ireland have a long struggle to become part of Ireland, but Eire now has lost its sovereignty to the boreocrats in Brussels.
lapajarcita 1 month ago
some protestants although a minority,are not brainwashed like the protestants who call themselves loyalists, but agree that they live in ireland, their ancestors were invaders centuries ago, but now the protestants should see themselves as Irish and join the nationalist demands for a united Ireland.
lapajarcita 1 month ago 2
@lapajarcita Youre wrong mate..the cruithne and the ulaidh were in Ireland at least a thousand years before the first gael arrived..ergo they are the invaders!!
VIOLA9927 1 month ago
Free Ireland by any means necessary
twl107 1 month ago
@NORTHERNIRISHULTRAS all the british army ever done was bring terror to ireland
FreeIreland18 1 month ago
typical. the one who thinks the police are scumbags is the one with explosive charges. quite ironic. taking an armed struggle is wrong and you CANNOT justify it anyway. No matter how many bitches whinge saying "United ireland" It's still wrong. the difference between being british and irish is nothing. its not like your going to die from being one or the other, so theres no need for action. Dissident republicans are scum. Cannot be defended/respected in anyway no matter what.. terrorists.
MrNornironfan 2 months ago
The 32 County Movement has supporters in America if you just contact them back..... ORGANIZE!!!! "Irish-American Irish Defense"
NationalKnights33 3 months ago
Should the title not be Irish terrorism on the rise, not irish republicanism on the rise.
winning4787 3 months ago
@winning4787 think you'll find that britain are the terroists
FreeIreland18 3 months ago 7
@FreeIreland18 *terrorists "an eye for an eye leaves everybody blind" - Gandhi (who removed the brits without a single bomb.)
winning4787 3 months ago
Why are all Irish Republicans Dicks?
Soon as someone disagrees with them, their threatening to Murder them.
I dont want to be part of Europe, but I'm not going start stabbing, clubbing, shooting and blowing anyone up ovef it
sirgouldie72 3 months ago
Up the RA.
Kkeenan461 3 months ago
Ill fight for a free Ireland! God Bless the Irish Rebels.
NationalKnights33 3 months ago
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@NationalKnights33 Ok so u want to be free from the life-guard of the UK-Treasury & free from the socio-economic benefits of living within the United Kingdom. Then what? Do u think Eire will come to your resue? A virtually bankrupt, brown-bag state struggling to remain in the euro, do u think they want or can afford you, when they cant even afford what they have? Tell me how u will fund this ''free ireland''??? Its obvious that sad little losers like yourself dont think thees things through, lol
uobcv 3 months ago
@51wins. Civil rihts protesters were happy to talk civil rights within the UK until they got shot at by the authorities for doing so
Andulsi 3 months ago
I undestand protestant misgiings about Ireland being a Catholic republic. But I think the ideals of th 1798 united Irishmen could be brought back. We could have a secular United Independent Republic. One that bows to neither Rome or Westminster.
Andulsi 3 months ago
@TheTwollocks. Hastings is actually a Gaelic name corrupted to English form by English legal authorities in Ireland during colonial times. Just one more english crime in a long list. They tried to take our names away. My own mother' s name was an anglicised pseudo translation of an old Gaelic name. Luckily, I was able to trace back to the original form through the records.
Andulsi 3 months ago
More deluded republicans!
cozener1 3 months ago
FUCK DA QUEEN UTR YEIS LAD
NuK3ClanTV 4 months ago
ONWARD TO THE REPUBLIC. ONWARD RIRA, CIRA, OGLAIGH NA'HEIREANN.
Eire32saoirse 4 months ago
M.I.5 under estimate everything
spartan1545 4 months ago in playlist More videos from FreeIreland18
It's Derry just Derry not London's Derry
irishrebelwexford 4 months ago
Pressure brings change no just talk.
Siguror6 4 months ago
I was fortunate enough to be able to visit northern Ireland few weeks ago. I've visited Londonderry, Omagh and Belfast. I was struck by its green land, its beauty and friendly people.
It is such a pity that NI has regrettable history of violence for such a lovely part of the world.....
I hope to return to Belfast when I can
seiko1965 4 months ago
@seiko1965 Derry. It's Ireland.
Tim5647 4 months ago
@Tim5647
what is wrong with Londonderry?
I'm not native to UK- so enlighten me. Thank you !
seiko1965 4 months ago
@seiko1965 Call it Derry. Otherwise, you come across as a supporter of british terrorism.
Tim5647 4 months ago
@Tim5647 ulster will always be british
stealth1692 3 months ago
@stealth1692 Dream on Orange bastard. Parts of Ulster now have a majority catholics in places once regarded as Orange strongholds.
Tim5647 3 months ago
@Tim5647 religon doesnt matter
stealth1692 3 months ago
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@Tim5647 Your clealry a sad little bigot unable to grasp the reality that every recent survey shows a growing support amongst catholics for remaining within the United Kingdom. You clealry dont understand the economics of how Northern Ireland is totaly dependant on the UK-Treasury if u belive a majority of citizens here would vote to give up their soci-economic benefits to join a virtually bankrupt Eire that simply cant afford them. Please explain how u wouldl fund a united-ireland?
uobcv 3 months ago
@uobcv Don't judge me you Orange bastard. We want nothing to do with you or your annexation of our land. We want to be with Dublin. Peter Robinson even recognizes the that by his desperation to try and attract Catholics, lol. Nobody wants to remain in an economically deprived part of the UK that the british government no longer wants.
Tim5647 3 months ago
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@Tim5647 I notice u didnt actually explain to me how u plan to fund this 'free-ireland'. If as u claim 'nobody here wants to remain part of the UK' then why does every survey show the desire for unity is at an all time low, lol. 99% of protestants support the union, and your only kidding yourself if u think a majority of catholics will vote to give up their socio-economic benefits to join a bankrupt slum (Robinson knows this) So the reality is you want Dublin, but Dublin doesnt want you! How sad
uobcv 3 months ago
@Tim5647 Peter Robinson (like any politician) is desperate to attract voters - any voters! But the union is safe, so if u want to see desperation, look at SF's new Unionist-Outreach-Programmes. SF know that to acheive unity they would need a large slice of Protoestant/unionist votes, so Marty is running around talking about his 'unionist brothers'. In other words they failed to bomb us into unity so now they want beg us into it. But even they know its a dead-duck when Eire dont want them! lol
uobcv 3 months ago
@seiko1965 Derry Mo chara !!!
ariba1888 4 months ago
Im not a dissident! But Irish Republicanism has always manifested itself through the Use of violence! The reason why is quiet simple! Britain has always coned Irish Republicanism out by saying it will only achieve its goals through Peace dialouge. The loyalists of what i seen don't want a united Ireland, Sinn Féin can't see this why? Blinded by their own light the INLA are correct. Take part and agree with the Good friday agreement but DON'T DECOMMISSION! Sinn Féin are NOT prepared for FUTURE
shughes375 5 months ago
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The R.I.R.A are clueless killers, Sinn Féin all the way
DHSEASON4 5 months ago
@DHSEASON4 clueless killers so what were sf/pira? Victory to the Real IRA.
FreeIreland18 5 months ago 6
@DHSEASON4 Sinn Féin don't know what ideology they are following, is it Socialism,Nationalism or is it communism? One minute they are keeping the Yanks happy with Nationalism and then they met the likes of Gaddafi or Castro and are Socialis. Then one minute its marxism - (communism). Atleast could they be a bit transparent with things. One thing the aren't doing is caring about their supporters, do you see Gerry Adams knocking doors every month or Marty asking how you are NO!
XxshughesxX 2 months ago
@XxshughesxX Communism? Socialism is a very broad church, for godsake Labour in England call themselves 'socialist' yet they still blew Iraq to pieces.. SF are very much a socialist party, I can't see how you could disagree with this. They are not a nationalist party they are republican party. Also they have massive support and support which is constantly increasing so they must be doing something right?
DHSEASON4 2 months ago
@XxshughesxX Also on your last note they are full time elected reps.. be realistic are debate may be futile.. does anyone expect them to knock every constituents door and ask how they are? I don't.. and I am sure most right minded people don't. They do however have a full-time constituency office and so if you need help you can guarantee you can get it there
DHSEASON4 2 months ago
@DHSEASON4 lazy cunts im thinking of going down the politics road myself since i like voicing peoples opinion i might be standing for elections in a few years representing the hidden nationalists voice in Ardoyne and lurgan it could be 2years from now or 5 but if i do you will see a big change around... what socialists sit in an office and expect people to come to them every year sinn fein ask my father to stand he disagrees last year he voted indepedent over what mcguiness said
XxshughesxX 2 months ago
@XxshughesxX Its good that you consider standing because most people who are critical wouldn't have the courage to run themselves. Fairplay. The only thing is if you have support for dissidents then won't get elected. Like or lump it the vast vast majority of the community opposes them.. and rightly so.
DHSEASON4 2 months ago
@DHSEASON4 im not supporting the dissidents im going to support the people - simple as workers socialist power and im not thinking yet but in the near future and i could maybe shange my mine and run down south because i have family down there
XxshughesxX 2 months ago
@skoi87 im english and i agree with you all politicans do is fuck things up
stealth1692 5 months ago
@skoi87 what's up your hole,what makes nathan come across like that he spoke the truth and his mind.does it matter what age he is he is entitled to his opinion,. he lives in a place that has suffered greatly during conflict.lastly you say you hate sinn fein? "you havnt experienced conflict go fuck yourself sunshine" is something sinn fein would say.
FreeIreland18 5 months ago
@TheTwollocks their? you forgetting the fact there was a fair share of protestant people in the IRA kid.are quinsey and amizkar good english names? just asking.
FreeIreland18 6 months ago
@FreeIreland18 quinsey is fenian name. JUST SAYIN.
MrNornironfan 2 months ago
Did the 32CSM have any look catching the anti fascists that wrecked the statue of their beloved heroe Sean russell IRa Member and Nazi collabrator
sirgouldie72 6 months ago
I would like to see a 32 county state in Ireland. I suppose there will always be debate about it. Perhaps dual citizenship? Or just be like a British-Irish (if your unionist) like the Irish-Americans. Keep your culture etc. But Ireland is Irish.
BanjoMan1916 6 months ago
The English gov. has 2 choices at this point A. they agree to allow a united Ireland separate from the UK to emerge through diplomatic means avoiding any more violence, or B. they are forced to by an army of suborn irish republican rebels using guerrilla tactics against conventional forces. I would go with the choice that allows the most negotiation for the status of citizens wanting to remain members of the UK.
skinnyman1423 6 months ago
@GoatSoup77 who starts a conversation with Oh Wow? Here's the news! Nobody gives a shit about republicans anymore, its not like to do anything but whine and look for self pity from people you do fuk all for at the end of the day. Here have a Cupp of Toughen the Fuk up with a Shut the Fuk up Digestive, your boring whiney insignificant wankers
sirgouldie72 6 months ago
@GoatSoup77 your a Dickhead but i imagine you all ready know that
sirgouldie72 6 months ago
@MyCammyboy ah dont worry we all be one some day soon paddy
karanmartina 6 months ago
Alot of talk of FREEDOM....are you not already FREE?
What more freedom would a United Ireland bring? This is clearly nothing to do with freedom and it never was. Most civil rights protesters will tell you they were happy within the United Kingdom they just wanted equal rights along with everyone else. That has now been achieved, we have a power-sharing government and a bright future for our wee country within the United Kingdom.
These people who keep causing trouble are wasters.
51wins 6 months ago
I wonder how long it's gonna take before loyalists wake up and realize how they have been PLAYED all these many years by england? "...hang all of them from the lamp posts..." it seems that hanging people is the way you show the world just how democratic your beliefs REALLY are! Bang your drum and flutter your ribbons and tripe...and goose step your hatred to another channel.
FenianFitzy 6 months ago
More Blind Little Bheggers thinking they can dictate to British in their rightful home land just as their predecessor did, they shall fail ,and hopefully get destroyed in the process ... Cait Trainor, Sean Malony constantly collect monies on the street for "their cause" or is it their Coke habbit ......
NO SURREDER
govaned 6 months ago
Also what about the 60,000 Protestants forced and evicted from their homes in Cork during the uprising?? and you want to know why Northern Ireland is so hostile to republicans! Irish Protestant were also forced from their homes and it had nothing to do with Land share' pure racism!
1976Lurgan 7 months ago
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@1976Lurgan "Also what about the 60,000 Protestants forced and evicted from their homes in Cork during the uprising"
There was never 60000 protestants living in Cork at that time ,check the 1911 Cenus online, figure of 60000 is very wrong.
saoirse2011 6 months ago
Sorry SAoirse 2011 but I got my years wrong!
1976Lurgan 7 months ago
Saoirse 2011 u talk about 1614 or whenever but the true in the fact lies in that we are a country who are mDw up of Vikings, Normans or whoever the fuck else wanted to invade our country? Now. WhT r we really made up of and who really gives a fuck about England? made
1976Lurgan 7 months ago
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saoirse2011 7 months ago
The 1641 massacre of protestants is a myth, Sir Charles Coote had carried out massacres of native Irish people at Wicklow,Clontarf,and Carrickmines,upwards of 5000 catholics were killed by him,Irish rebels in Ulster killed about 1600 protestants in retaliation.In recent studies(2010)the foremost historians in the world have concluded that the protestant massacre story was inspired by propaganda and was used as a false pretext for killing the native Irish and confiscating their land
saoirse2011 7 months ago
newry thats where i live
shughes375 7 months ago
fair play to the republican youth
captainawesomo1 7 months ago
@MyCammyboy hang you ya fukin arsehole
TheBhoycey 7 months ago
@0101100101100 1641 Massacre estimate two hundred thousand dead. Massacre spread, lead and executed by the Roman catholic clergy and priests and other professed Irish Roman catholics.
runevidgeek3 7 months ago
@runevidgeek3 Still on about shite 500 years ago numpty? There were seven attempted murders over the 12th this year alone by knuckle dragging fucking Nazis like you, get up to sped u gobshite!!
phoenix1916 7 months ago
@0101100101100 Are you for real? No one on planet earth has committed /commits more atrocities on human kind than the Roman universe
church. History records over fifty million innocents tortured and murdered by the Vatican.
Proof and pudding: The protestant population in the ROI was decimated after partition while the Roman Irish population grew and prospered in the north. Sell your LIES to the ignorant s.
runevidgeek3 7 months ago
@runevidgeek3 Get me ONE shred of proof from any protestant in the South that claims they have been discrimainated on grounds of religion, now the history books are FULL of details on how the Orange NI statelet keep the native irish down, SELL UR LIES to the ignorant u fuckwit lol!!!
phoenix1916 7 months ago
See, its all pointless, the majorety of N.Irish people want to be British, all their bitching and crying wont change that.
mwillis1000 7 months ago
@MyCammyboy and do it too every brittish soilder as well that have murdered thousands off people in other countrys in the world including ireland. brittish terrorism has to be stopped!
inisboy1 7 months ago
@inisboy1
You do know, that your spelling "British" wrong. Its British, not brittish.
mwillis1000 7 months ago
@mwillis1000 english is my second choice i speak irish im were im from we dont speak english, in fact i speak better spanish than english.
inisboy1 7 months ago
The 32CSM say SF has sold out, their very spokespersons said the same thing in 1986 when provos were spilling their blood on Irish streets and these lay abouts were crying into their pints...FAIL FAIL FAIL!!!
phoenix1916 8 months ago
26 bankrupt counties.LOL.
BINOMIALBOB1 8 months ago
@BINOMIALBOB1 what did u turn your comments off on your channel 4 u fuckin PUSSY...Who gives a flying fuck what u think u spastic go bury your face in a fire
TheTruthSlave 7 months ago
Cait "...we don't need the public to rubber stamp the Republican movement..." @ 6.15 of the video. YES YOU DO. Sinn Fein lied to us. They took us into a fourty-year-war and for what? For nothing but their Armani suits. And now, Gerry Adams smelling the scent of failure fucks off to the south. One thing is certain: the people, and I mean ALL the people in the six-counties do not want a return to the guns & bullets & bombs. A cease fire will rally a huge proletariat drive to your cause.
2000DPL 8 months ago
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There must not be any rioting, criminals are using riots as excuse to keep grip on their criminal empire. There is amnesty to terrorists who committed terrorism before Good Friday Agreement. Don't let historic inquiry team take you back to war.
justicepartyuk 8 months ago
unite ireland by any means country would be better off fuck any 1 who disagrees
TheGleeson1987 8 months ago
fuck britain
xKILAGAMINGx 8 months ago
Eire, land of the unemployed skint Mick.
dparr100 9 months ago
Eire, land of the unemplyed skint Mick.
dparr100 9 months ago
RSF
strandman28 9 months ago
well wat can ya say???? i wud say evry word that girl says!! av done jail to a chara!!!!
and wer not out dated!!!!!tal
strandman28 9 months ago
well wat can ya say???? i wud say evry word that girl says!! av dont jail to a chara!!!!
and wer not out dated!!!!!
strandman28 9 months ago
well wat can ya say???? i wud say evry word that girl says!! av dont jail to a chara!!!!
strandman28 9 months ago
@MyCammyboy lol, no you would have the entire of ireland unite and increased violence and murders
noodles1916 9 months ago
"We don't need the Public to approve the Republican movement"??? And these RSF morons call themselves a Political movement?? Not big on Democracy though, unsurprisingly!
And "We have a Mandate dating back to 1798.." Then it's not a Mandate Fuckwits! You ONLY gain a Mandate from the PRESENT Electorate! Otherwise we'd still have Slavery and Serfdom ya brainless twats!
These Dissadents are just an embarassing annoyance, who'll never achieve jack shit in NI & have Zero support in the ROI!
DonegalRaymie201 9 months ago
@MyCammyboy
If it been so, You would have an United Ireland. Not your way their way. Violence will be in the future as it has been in the past.
MrRizikoo 9 months ago
26 BANKRUPT FAILED COUNTIES.LOL.
dparr100 9 months ago
electionposter :
The one on the right is bitter and cold with eyes from hell. The Irish people will have to stop him, sooner or later, hopefully sooner.
TroyaE117 9 months ago
At 7.08, the hard, cold eyes, the pumped-up sense of importance, he doesn't answer the question.
At 6.12, the woman says that she does not need the public to "rubber stamp" their cause. They do not need public support.
The ill-educated ghoul on the left, who says that if the people don't like it, they can leave.
Iniquitous drivel from start to finish.
This has been tried before, and it finished in a 25 year shooting party.
TroyaE117 9 months ago
@TroyaE117
Two of those interviewed were arrested at the start of the week and charged with glorifying terrorism, this could be the turning point with these scumbags!
electionposter 9 months ago
@TroyaE117
So you noticed the same things too? Good! I think most intelligent folk see these evil wee shites for what they are! You'll notice too, that there's FA support for violence on EITHER side, from those old enough & wise enough to actually remember the Bad oul days of the 70's, 80's & 90's!
These morons don't have so much as a "semblance" of a Political argument, and could be torn to shreds by either side in an actual political debate! That's why they don't participate!
DonegalRaymie201 9 months ago
@MyCammyboy They did that in 1916 after the Easter Rising. . . And it achieve fuck all.
sXeLodge 10 months ago
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32csm low life scum.
chugger2hotty 10 months ago
For god and ulster no surrender.
chugger2hotty 10 months ago
Tiofaidh ar la
THECHEEKYGORILLA1 10 months ago
Best of luck to Cait and Sean.
solwerlad 10 months ago
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'our land', not 'are land'.
MitRetsillac 10 months ago
now i must say i wouldnt want a united the euro is to the dogs plus you have to pay for health care why whould you want to do that. And i see a few people saying fuck all brits sure the interview was on a british tv show thats werid
bigphilrules 10 months ago
The British government are naive if they think that the Irish will ever live under their yoke.SinnFein have become a puppet entity in the British occupation of Ireland,Sinn Fein know this and their days as a mouthpiece for British tyrany are numbered.
The Irish will fight the British forever,untill the cancer of British instigated voilence and interference ceases when they leave Ireland.
Ireland unfree will never be at peace.
domhanda 10 months ago
'our land' not 'are land'
MitRetsillac 10 months ago
pure minks bein interviewed in this,you'll find that only scum from dysfunctional working class families support violence against the police...
james84galway 10 months ago
One thing that the Republicans will never admit is that the UK government has always said that when the majority in the north want it, then Ireland will unite. This has been enshrined in UK law since 1949. Re-iterated by the Heath government in 1970 and now again reinforced in the GFA. The other myth is this oft publicised "british occupation" myth. Ulster is already occupied by the Irish. Many of these just happen to be Protestant who want to be citizens of the UK. Democracy MUST prevail.
markmywordswell 10 months ago
@MyCammyboy Are you stupid? I mean really stupid? Go study what happend in Eireann after the "leaders of 1916 where executed".
adri204 11 months ago
Criminals the lot of them, they love the queens coin, never forget that!
electionposter 11 months ago
Free the Irish!!! Before they free themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!
MrFunkehMonkeh 11 months ago
Yeah good argument Sean, lol, PSNI are anti Catholic scumbags for raiding your house looking for weapons and explosives for which I take it you have been convicted. Time for you lot to shun the brain washing scumbags that are leading you back down the harden path of destruction that for too long now has proven, does NOT work.
990drifter 11 months ago
6:10 - "We don't need the public to rubber stamp the Republican movement..."
That is the argument of ever dictatory in history. I think we can see what Ireland would become if they ever took over.
SuperTrekNerd 1 year ago
There is nothing wrong with Irish Republicanism, it's perfectly legitimate to want a united Ireland, but that goal will only be achieved peacefully, through democratic means. Terrorism won't achieve anything.
Medeasbiggestfan 1 year ago
@MyCammyboy How is it terroism when one is defending thier own homeland from invaders. Eiranne is one place and one nation and needs to be united!!
adri204 1 year ago
Can anyone under the belief that the economic situation in the 26 counties is relevant to Irish unification please catch up on some light reading on the topic. Republicans throughout Ireland are campaigning for revolution, not simply having the illegitimate 26 county Free State government extend their reach over a further 6 Counties. The biggest critics of Republicanism on youtube are those who know nothing about it.
NorthernGael32 1 year ago
@MyCammyboy learn how to spell.
FreeIreland18 1 year ago 5
give Ireland full independence and send all the paddys in England home, what a result that would be for England
bricwood 1 year ago 3
@rampersnotallowed very mature mate,if the videos are shit dont watch them nobody is forcing you to,if you were on my channel and can read proper you would clearly see my age,maybe your smoking to much of what bob marleys knowing for.your the kind that would rather supply drugs to the upcoming generation.
FreeIreland18 1 year ago 7
@FreeIreland18
Seriously dont you think all this propaganda crap if it wasnt published then it wouldnt become an issue with the young naive upcoming generations?? I am protestant well I dont go to church I dont fully agree with the loyalist marches but I am what I am and dont cause issues with other regilions I actually dont really care about regilions, but when I see things that like you have posted here which is all one sided silly generation fuelled it makes me sad. Time to move on mate!
rampersnotallowed 1 year ago
My comment about Bob marley wasnt to do with drugs I actually am totally against drugs it destroys life but unfortunately its in our generations and needs to be stopped. I mentioned it as the guy is cool calm and collect I read an article in a shop waiting fora hair cut and it just cam into my head when writing that comment!
I didnt exactly search for these vidoes I got to them from link to link on you tube, now thats concerning!
rampersnotallowed 1 year ago
Why does some in Northern ireland want an all ireland but the southern people dont actually give a dam what is it going to give for the better??
Why would anyone in N Ireland want an all Ireland anyway the republic is screwed for the next 10years+ financially, they got all the money pumped in from the EEC expanded now burst. Its like if british people should live in the qeens backyard, then the so call want a be Irish should live in the south. Think about it isnt it really silly??
rampersnotallowed 1 year ago
Any normal person in Northern British Ireland doesnt get harassed its just the repeater scum of this tiny islands generations that has hate does, little boys and girls grow up and move on, Gerry and Martin knows it wont happen, jes why would you want to join the republic anyway its clean screwed for the next 10 years join a failing euro and failed economy.
Wise up or move down south then, if you want it so much, then say it nice down there!
rampersnotallowed 1 year ago
Ok I'm an American....so I have just got to ask.....why all the chaos? the bombings?
I know half of Ireland is free, and half isn't...... so why can't the U.K. just let the other half go? What's so important that all this fighting must continue?
ScoobieD0 1 year ago
@ScoobieD0 Britain occupies Ireland illegally and therefore resistance has become more intensive in the last 2 years against it
Paddy234 1 year ago
@ScoobieD0 yeah, you're right. It's as simple as that, mate. The UK just lets the other half go and then it's all OK. Because what's been happening is the UK really ENJOYS pumping billions of £s into Northern Ireland (more per capita than any other part of the UK) just to really annoy the catholic minority there. It's got nothing to do with the majority of Ulster wanting to remain British and the civil war that would have ensued had we pulled out, or anything like that.
skillisme 11 months ago
what does oglaigh na heireann mean?
RICHIEMC1976 1 year ago
what does oglaigh na heireann mean?
RICHIEMC1976 1 year ago
@RICHIEMC1976 soldiers or voluteers of ireland
brianboru2010 1 year ago
what does oglaigh na heireann mean?
RICHIEMC1976 1 year ago
NORTHERN IRELAND IS PART OF THE U.K--MR BLACKIRISH1916--WE DO NOT WANT TO BE PART OF YOUR BANKRUPTED, PEDOPHILE REPUBLIC
NO SURRENDER
xingichaun007 1 year ago
Scum.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
chugger2hotty 1 year ago
You want 32 united? You had a solution in 1914. But you decided to separate. Northern Ireland is British-Go to the bankrupted Republic
No SURRENDER
xing7777 1 year ago
@xing7777
go live on the island of britian???
why would you tell us to go south for, this is our island, we see ourselfs irish you see yourself british,
go live in britian then!
BlackIrish1916 1 year ago
The Provisional Republican Movement sold out. The root cause of conflict in Ireland is British occupation. Over centuries it has been proven that generation after generation will rise in resistance. Until the British occupying forces and the capitalist dummies are removed resistance will continue, the current political parties and indeed the entire political set-up in Ireland fails to deal with that. The fight will continue R.IRA
NorthernGael32 1 year ago 2
fukin jokers.more of a danger to themselves
36crazyguy 1 year ago
@36crazyguy cheers for viewing my video
FreeIreland18 1 year ago 11
@FreeIreland18 it was very entertaining
36crazyguy 1 year ago
@FreeIreland18 lol haha
BlackIrish1916 1 year ago
@FreeIreland18 I'm sorry, but Republicanism is dying. More and more and you being seen as individuals. Look at the last demographics, 52% of Catholics would vote for Unionism. Please explain how you plan to get a UR now?
redcoatrifle 6 months ago
Nathan, Cait & Ciaran spoke very well.
Isn't easy speaking on television and they did very well, fair play to them.
flemmy1916 1 year ago
@flemmy1916 those scumbags are a joke.did cait get that jacket from her granny,the little whore.most of them gimps were strung out on shit which dissident scum sold to them.sean and muppet in white tracksuit and the retarded gimp in derry should have smoked joints to relax them.at least one of them hoods is touting to special branch.are you the spiritual leader of the dissidents on yt ?
36crazyguy 1 year ago
@36crazyguy i guess the only decent one's are the loyalists then?
BlackIrish1916 1 year ago
@BlackIrish1916
36crazyguy 1 year ago
Sad truth is the more they push without regard for unionists, the more resistant unionists become.
Its no coincidence that the orange working class became defendants of the establishment, this was the dynamic that allowed Britain to successfully colonise Ulster in the first place. The establishment & protestants haven't always had the same values but have always had a common enemy, the Irish nationalist. This dates back to colonial settler/native times.
And that's what we call divide & conquer
clionaism 1 year ago
@canyonerodriver "the very fact that they feel apathetic about the supposed miraculous peace says a lot more than their lack of support for militant groups"
Um... what??? I don't understand what you meant there.
padraic2001eire 1 year ago
@canyonerodriver If you live in Ireland, and I presume you do, you should know how mild the desire for reunification is among the Irish population. Take the Good Friday Agreement. Only 56% of the electorate turned up to vote, and 94% of voters approved the constitutional amendments that recognised Northern Ireland as part of the United Kingdom. What does that tell you? Half the Irish people overwhelmingly desire peace over ending partition, and the other half couldn't even be bothered to vote!
padraic2001eire 1 year ago
@padraic2001eire Sorry, you cannot categorically talk for the whole of the Republic when you say they have no will for reunification. Is there any border poll to back this up? Or, infact, any poll? I understand there are much greater concerns, as there is too for many nationalists in Northern Ireland (including myself), but there's a difference between a long-term aspiration (in an environment where everyone is catered for), and wanting to bulldoze through a "brave new Ireland."
clionaism 1 year ago
@clionaism I never said the whole of the Republic have "no will for reunification". If you look at my previous comments, you'll see that I support a unification. However, the fact is that the desire for unification among MOST of in the Republic is so anaemic it could be compared with their desire for the US to leave Iraq and Afghanistan, or the creation of a Palestinian state. They might support it when someone bothers to bring it up, but ultimately they don't see it as affecting them much.
padraic2001eire 1 year ago
Yes & thats the way it's been since partition broke the nationalist movement, destroying any vested interest people in the new, stable Republic had in the dysfunctional Northern state. People generally need to be directly affected by something to galvanise them into desire for change, as they never were affected by NI's mess, this gives way for general disinterest. However I was merely backing up canyonerodriver in that unoffical polls do suggest favour for reunification, even if not a priority.
clionaism 1 year ago
@clionaism caonyonerdriver says he rejects the Good Friday Agreement, despite it being democratically approved North and South. He believes the state of Northern Ireland and its institutions should be dismantled, despite not living there, because it is 'illegitimate'. How would he feel if the majority of the people in the British Isles (that is, Britain and Ireland) claimed the Republic was illegitimate, and demanded it and its institutions be dismantled?
padraic2001eire 1 year ago
Well, I don't. It has helped bring a peace & equality to my generation that NI has quite literally never known. But better than me have rejected it and I understand the principle of being against it. It was more or less a means in which to appease legitimate nationalist sentiment indefinitely. One thing we have learnt from Ulster through the 20th century is that the 'majority are right' mentality doesn't always reflect what's valid or righteous. Unfortunately it's not so easy to right wrongs.
clionaism 1 year ago
@clionaism Well, as Churchill once said, "democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time." The Good Friday Agreement showed that the will of nationalists on the island for unity was not as strong as the will of unionists in Northern Ireland to remain part of the UK. And though you personally may not intend it, if you dismiss democracy you unwittingly bestow credibility on the actions of scum like the Real IRA and Continuity IRA.
padraic2001eire 1 year ago
Was NI not created via the flouting of democracy? Is this not at the root of why Republicans see NI as an illegitimate entity? Had the fundamental values of democracy been adhered to, NI would not exist. If they had of merely revised & not fully pandered to a minority, completely undermining democracy - it would be at most a 4 county state. The GFA showed that the will for peace was stronger than for unity, it's nothing to do with the strength of support between unionist & nationalist camps.
clionaism 1 year ago
I meant to say, it's nothing to do with the strength of convictions between nationalist and unionist camps.
clionaism 1 year ago
@clionaism As I said in a previous comment, I don't think the creation of Northern Ireland was part of some evil British imperialistic plan. It was an admittedly clumsy way of accommodating the two largest religious and political ideologies on the island - Protestant unionists and Catholic nationalists. Had a 32 county Home Rule government been created in the 1910s, there would have been an all-island civil war in which tens of thousands would have died.
padraic2001eire 1 year ago
@clionaism I wish Ireland hadn't been partitioned, but the fact is it was, and the onus is as much on Southern nationalists so eager for an independent state they were willing to allow the six counties to be segregated as it is on Ulster unionists willing to surrender Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan to create their majority in Northern Ireland. Catholics suffered in Northern Ireland, but don't forget, Protestants in Southern Ireland suffered too.
padraic2001eire 1 year ago