GITMO is still open!!!!!! Thank God for that!!!!!!! Obama is not in charge of anything. He is just a lackey forGeorge Soros, and must be working on his third or fourth pair of knee pads by now. Does he swallow, or just hold it so Soros thinks that he is drinking it all in?
"Indeed, the failed effort to close Guantanamo was reflective of the aspects of Obama’s leadership style that continue to distress his liberal base — a willingness to allow room for compromise and a passivity that at times permits opponents to set the agenda." --Washington Post, April 23, 2011
Hey everyone check out this funny video about Guantanamo Bay. its really funny. They show the kind of thugs in that prison that the librals think we were be to hard on .just type in on the search: nanaproductionfilms and it should be on the top of the list. enjoy. :)
You know as well as I do, most of the terrorists in Gitmo are not really terrorists, and most of the real terrorists are not in Gitmo.
Most of them were probably just people had the balls to take the average family come-together "I really, really think, someone should kill George Bush" from the safety of the living room, and out in public.
The selfless, just, non corrupt president USA wants, doesn't exist in USA.
Obama is weak, a sideliner, but rather that than one who shoots the wrong people.
U Neo-Liberals are funny. Ur NeoLiberal because you fight against the inherent common sense ideals of the true conservative, therefore furthering the NeoCon's domination and further Federalization of the world.
Ready to wake up and realize that "THEY" are against us all? Should this not be a wake up call... by now?
Legal minds (amidst your anti-war insanity) were telling us all that GITMO would be found legal. But man did this propaganda ever win you over
wouldnt alot of felons in max prisons love to be transferred to Gitmo??....3 friends died on 9/11.i wish they were in gitmo instead of dead.despite Obamas assertions...gitmos nowhere near closing.thankfully.
who said we wanted to turn time back 500 years public hangins where more like 2oo years ago and if you look at the crime rate back then and look at it now it was a whoe lot smaller.. and who said anything about burning witches that was back before ppl even discovered the americas you dumn fuck .. LEARN SOME HISTORY BEFORE YOU TRY TO ARGUE ABOUT SHIT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT
WOW!!! YOU ARE A DUMB SON OF A BITCH! YOU need to take your own advice. First there were public hangins in the early 1900's in america. Second have you ever heard of the Salem which trials, that was in Massachusetts,"THAT'S IN AMERICA in case you didn't know" THey burned witches! Holy Shit BATman, You ARE FUCKIN stupid.
i wish they would bring back the old tortures ppl would stop doing stupid shit in america... example steal from someone get ur hand chopped off, rape someone get ur dick cut off, and the way they kill prisoners on deathrow is just gay.... if you had public hangings when someone committed murder the crime level in america would drop dramatically
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KABUL, Afghanistan -- As Marine Corps forces roll into southern Afghanistan, they face an enemy familiar to US officials -- Mullah Zakir, a former Guantanamo Bay prisoner who now leads a reconstituted Taliban.
wow what a surprise! you fucking stupid leftist trolls should not be in positions of power...your ideals of an infantile utopia get in the way of your logic
are some of these people stupid? you actually think that every person in gwantanamo is a terrorist. what would you do if you brother was captured and put in there for no reason whatsoever and tortured?
... so your saying that if ur innocent sibling was water borded (which is an extreme form of torture by imitating droning) and put in gwantanamo without trial u wouldnt care? how ignorant are you?
you cant face the fact that your comments are absolutely stupid so your pretending you dont give a shit. also drowning is one of the most traumatic experiances. obviously there imitating drowning because the whole point of torture is not to kill the oponent retard. electric shocing is also a form of torture which makes the body imitate what would happen if the body was in real danger of lightning and overide the commands of the neuurons. dsont bother commenting back ur fighting a lost cause
I have no doubts waterboarding is a very unpleasant experience. It must be so because it is considered 100 percent effective and usually induces cooperation within 30 seconds..... Did they not save thousands of lives by doing this?
what you fail to understand is that many of those water borded are innocent without trial. not only this but innocent people have had ther genitles cut an had other forms of pain inflicted upon them due to un confirmed suspicion.
Just stop waterboarding but close down Gitmo ridicoulous. There where other forms of tourture but probably just as harmless as waterboarding. What methods do you purpose......... asking politely..... come on man.
ok first off i am NOTdefending terrorists in my eyes its an eye for an eye. who i am defending are the innocent within gantanamo without trial. he closed gitmo down as a publblicity stunt to give the impression that he has closed the book on that part of dark american history. they will obviously set up shop elsewhere simply with different morals and regulations
Sure, they give information. Analysis and study after study shows that the information is most often inaccurate. I'll tell you that I am Osama Bin Ladan if you waterboard me. That doesn't make it true or valuable.
Oh Yea, This is working out well. While you libs are now safe because of EIT, you just keep on coming with BS. Obama states he does not want these techniques used but in reality, he is smart enough to know they really worked and were needed at the time.
Now he sees he cannot shut down GITMO because even Congress won't allow penny one to be allocated until BO know what the plan is.
Does any of this make sense to the left? Wake up America. They are there for a reason, Leave 'em there!!!
you fucking dick, Obama and the rest of us "Libs" are defending fuckers like you because you actually believed that torture was the right agenda. America would be overwhelmed with jihad if the gitmo photos were released, and so actually adopted one of Bush's policies. Why can't you get on the wagon with this?
When the hell did terrorist become the victims? i wish we had someplace to put these people. i wish we had a maximum security prison somewhere outside the U.S. I dont know maybe in cuba where we could keep them. That would be nice if we had that huh? I wish these liberal would quit being pusses. They think we should be nice to terrorist as not to upset them and cause them to to take action against us. When did we become France. Lets appologize for being the greatest country on earth! BULLSHIT!!
What's Obama going to do next, after the ACLU and the other civil rights assholes, along with the Europeans, blast him for holding the terrorists in US jails because they are "too harsh". When he gets done wasting our tax dollars on the trials and the juries release these scumbags, where is he going to send them? No one wants them. Well, Chicago get ready you are about to be the proud host to 500+ terrorists. Or we can sent them all to Dickie Turbin or Jack Murthas districts.
Why he is striving to shut gitmo down. There are so many other things to worry about other than where some POS terrorists will stay. It is pretty clear that we have an idiot for a president.
Hitler was only trying to defend his country from what he perceived as non-Aryan threats.
Stalin was only trying to protect his country from what he perceived as traitors who wanted to reinstate the Tsardom.
Some of the most evil acts in history were done in defense of one's country. Saying you're doing something horrible to "defend your country" doesn't make what you're doing any less horrible.
If we employ the tactics of the terrorists, we become no better than them.
We're America, we should be better than our enemies, as a people, as a country, in action and in words.
Sometimes being better than your enemies means not giving in to blood lust and becoming just as bad as your enemies.
I'm sure you'll accuse me of being some kind of touchy-feely liberal, but if you really loved your country, you wouldn't want to stoop to the very tactics the terrorists you hate use.
Hmm... that sounds kinda... elitist. Maybe you should come out of that ivory tower, egghead.
Typical conservative hypocrisy. Accuse liberals of being "elitist" and "condescending", and then insult their intelligence, heritage, economic status, religion, etc. thereby implying you're better or more intelligent than they are.
Hate to break it to you, scout, but that's "elitism", you fucking elitist.
Mark Levins runaway bestseller, Liberty & Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto, has now reached 1,000,000 copies in print. Liberty & Tyranny debuted at #1 on the New York Times bestseller list in its first week on sale, and has held that position for four consecutive weeks. Publisher Louise Burke says Mark Levins message has obviously struck a chord beyond his substantial fan base. He is now reaching an even wider audience of citizens across the political spectrum.
obama is a spineless president and can't protect this country and letting more terrorist enter the u.s. ya there a smart move obama let not torture and let the terrorist free in the u.s.
Once again, thank you Lord for removing that worthless and sorry excuse for a president, Bush and replacing IT with a compitent and worthy president, Obama.
As of today, Apr. 22/09, Gitmo is not closed and torture has increased at Gitmo. Now regarding the black sites, there are 18,000 prisoners in these and the US is expanding their prison in Afghanistan to the tune of $40 million. Extraordinary rendition of course has not stopped. Now do you know why Obama does not want to see prosecutions for torture?
Obama has authorized an increase of 17,000 US troops for Afghanistan, the nation that gave Bin Laden safe haven and a training ground. Bush allowed things to devolve there becasue of his obsession with Iraq. He has also spoken openly about using armed drones to go after Al Queda in the hinterlands of Pakistan. Obama has described Ayers radical activity as 'despicable' [ not a friendly comment] After WWII a Japanese officer was executed for water-boarding a US grunt. History is a bitch.
The average American is only ok with different classes.. Because they are to stupid and lazy to do anything about it.. Working hard and earning nice things is all fine.. But to say its acceptable to spend thousands of dollars on a haircut while others cant even afford a doctor visit, is just obscenely ignorant In this country not only is it acceptable to be a miser but its admirable and thats disgusting..
The greed and corruption has rotted this country from the inside out.. And soon it will collapse.. Theres not a damn thing Obama Bush or their Zionist buddies can do about it. Actually I believe thats what The Jews want And im not trying to be racist or hateful.. But lets be honest. even other Jews have to admit.. Who runs the media in America.. Who owns the world bank?. Who have we been sending billions of dollars to ..so they can fund their holy war..
Am I crazy or is it just coincidental that the economy collapsed when it did.. It seems to me that the ailing job market along with the flood of illegal immigrants has left many young Americans with no options for employment besides the military which is always hiring I mean what other reason could our government have.. To let all these people in I know they didnt just suddenly develop a conscience and felt bad about past transgressions and decided to make amends..
Obama isnt going to change a thing at least not significantly Because the Jews that really run our country wont allow it.. Im sure they sat his ass down . And let him know exactly who is in charge and what would happen to him if he steps out of line All he is doing is rewording a few things and promising changes that will take place years from now If he was going to make some changes for the better he would of dealt with the criminals that ran our country for the last eight years.
Obama has taken another step to please radical Code Pink and ACLU supporters by ending the classification of enemy combatant. This is the designation that has allowed the United State government to arrest and confine some of the most dangerous terrorists.
He doesnt seem to understand the war on terrorism is real. He keeps treating it like a criminal case where liberal lawyers can use legal loopholes to get dangerous terrorists back on the battlefield to kill Americans.
The war on terrorism is a phrase invented by George W. Bush. He escalated the situation immensely. The Obama administration has stopped the shredding of the Constitution. That's something to be proud of.
ahhh ah and ahh I ahh ahh a ahhh I won't torture. I beg to differ. If it saves one life of an American. Red is positive, black is negative, and make sure their testicles are wet when applied.
come on, youre ridiculous, do you even kno what marxism is? i mean seriously...
he bans the term war on terror cause its way too general cause that term makes lots of stupid people think every conflict or war that goes on in the middle east is the "war on terrorism"...
Uh, no I go no idear who Karl Marx be. I just be a ignorant neocon retard ya know....sonded good douh.........
YEAH I know what marxism is! Its a failed idea where the gov't runs and owns everything and "spreads the wealth" as Obama said to "JOE".....What is Obama doing right now? Taking over control of the banking/mortgage industry.
YOUR rediculous! He's pandering to our enemy is what he's doing!
Open your eyes & use your brain to think for yourself & look whats going on! Wake up. Damn!
xD ok, that was good, yes, you ran totally into it, you just described what some people and governments made out of marxism/ marxist communism... but that is not really what marx and engels were aiming for and marx even said that if that is marxism then he is no marxist.
his idea was a government that regulates the economy, not owns every companyand one of his most important ideas behind it was eliminating class differences. that is not what obama is goin for
Thats exactly what Obama is going for. He spews 'class envy' everyday. American'a are not like Germany. We are Okay with different classes. Here, if you work your ass off, you can be anything & wealthy beyond your wildest imagination. If you don't live to work, you can still have a nice life. I've never gotten a job from a poor man. So what your saying is dead wrong. Marxism demands the Gov't employs the people and determines their future and fate & IS the elite!
well, obama goal is not the total elimination of classes and he's not a marxist cause to achieve both marx said you need a revolution and not reforms. ...
and yeah, ask all the people that struggle now with keeping teir home because they dont get paid well...
and just for the record, im a socialist not a communist...
republicans want socialsim for themself, but not for anyone else... they want the best healthcare but as soon as anyone else wants it and they have to pay some taxes they freak out
Ok, so this guy is so full of shit. First of all, they are NOT closing down GITMO, they are "looking" at thinking about closing down GITMO in a year. Secondly, the secret rendition and black sites will only be INTENSIFIED under Obama, thirdly torture will continue....need I say more. Meet the new president - Obama, same as the old president - Bush.
Prove it. Prove that gitmo is not a facade, a distraction, a diversion, look at Exec. Order 13492 and tell me it doesn't say in Section 3 that prisoners "shall be returned to their home country, released, transferred to a third country, or transferred to another United States detention facility" If you just move them to secret facilities elsewhere what you have done...you've spread the shit around the yard instead of making one big pile of it. Where do you think those "third countries" are?
WASHINGTON — The Taliban's new top operations officer in southern Afghanistan had been a prisoner at the Guantanamo Bay detention center, the latest example of a freed detainee who took a militant leadership role and a potential complication for the Obama administration's efforts to close the prison.
Can't argue with you there, your rebuttal is hard to disagree with. Our government is definitely not honest with itself at all. I think in the end most good people have the same things in common.
Mr. Obama do u thinks that Zionist control media and intelligence will allow u to work freely. Before u come to u r post they did dirty conspiracy that the hope for the peaceful solution of pal-Israel conflict finished they given a signal to attack and on Gaza and do all possible crimes which could create more hate in Muslims for Israel and usa so that as a result this problem could never solve and hamas will go back to militancy and take revenge like this ur presidency will be fail.
They're POW's LIBTARD they shouldn't be in regular prisons. BTW women can't joint the Rangers but you wouldn't know that b/c you wouldn't know anything about that. You'd have to be a REAL MAN to be a ranger & you're obviously left-wing Fag.
yes however the terminology of fag to mean someone who is homosexual is actually correct since the term was coined by the puritans when they would add gay people to the fagot, meaning bundle of sticks, to burn witches. So technically rideemcowboys is correct since the gay person literally became part of the fagot and now is used to demean gay people.
I tell you one thing, If a terrorist is moved from Gitmo, trialed, and released, I will bet you the money which Obama has promised to give us (which I am sure he won't) that that terrorist wont go home to his or her family, and they will want to get revenge.
Terrorists have relinquished the right to freedom and fair trials when they killed American civilians and attacked our glorious American Fatherland! (p.s. I am a nationalist not a Nazi)
....many of them are being held even though there is no evidence against them. and if they do want revenge for being held without right, who do you think is to blame?
Are you really trying to show sympathy for terrorists? This is the exact reason why our society is faulting. Have you forgotten the terrorist attacks of 9-11? Have your forgotten the lives that were lost due to these mad men? Torture is a necessary evil since it can protect the American people from harm and a certain death. I do not know if you read the news or not but numerous of former Gitmo Terrorists that were released have been rearrested due to their failure to cease terrorist actions.
I like how this person acts like they know what their talking about, oh my husbands a ranger, whoop dee fucking doo, our society is failing because of naive people like yourself. Have we not lost more soldiers from Operation Iraqi Freeedom than 9-11? Where has it gotten us? We found WOMD? Osama? Do you even know how many soldiers have killed themselves since coming back from war? No sympathy for them, huh?
I like how you bleeding heart liberals are so hypocritical. Due to the fact how uninformed you are, I am prepared to give you a history lesson. After the fall of the Soviet Union, corrupt government officials had sold pieces of nuclear weapons to the Russian mafia (thank you Boris Yeltsin). These mafia men had than put these small nuclear devises into suitcases, and sold them on the black market. The American government has been able to intercept three suitcase-nukes from the black market.
We have no idea how many suitcase-nukes had been fabricated. Therefore it can be a common assumption that the nuclear device was moved since the 4 estate (media) decided to announce everything that we did and were going to do. It is easy to move a suitcase-nuke since it is after all in a suitcase.
Oh and don't forget these solders are enlistees, not draftees. They CHOSE to join the military to protect the Fatherland! Remember that before you make these accusations.
Alright, says YOU. You are so high up in the government you know of everything that is going on, behind closed doors included. Since people CHOSE to join means they are die hard elitist Americans? You can assume things all you want and talk about the past and everything but until you realize that we really have no control over the U.S. as a whole, just our own actions, the world might be a better place. Doesn't the U.S. government sell old weapons to undemocratic countries anyways? This is fun!
Well I never said that those within the military are part of a elitist class, since I believe that those at home stimulating our society are as, if not more, important. And of course we do not have control over the United States Government, its a Republic not a democracy after all. Also I am not closed minded, I know actions like that Iranian-Contra affair are horrid indeed. But the fact is that we live in America and we should do what is best for Americans first.
I personally believe that current government we are under is corrupt and marred to the core. I feel that the Obama administration is much like the Weimar Republic in Germany after the Great War. The Federal government of the United States is most likely going to fall sooner rather than later. The fact as I said is that we should serve the American people first and foremost. That is the most imperative action which we should take. Also I do enjoy a very well oiled and intriguing debate.
There are plenty of documented quotes, for those willing to seek truth over opinion, from President Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Madeline Albright and many other prominent democrats adamant that Saddam Hussein had WMD. Of course, the truth has been spun out of control as if only the Republicans believed this to be so. McCain made a comment he clarified referenced the Gulf War not Iraq -- and that going into Iraq was due to the believed WMD. Some people only hear what they want to hear.
The Young Turks are such assholes. I can see what Obama wants to do with this because we are "Civilized" or whatever but i have to raise a question..Say we capture Bin laden, and he has knowledge of another attack, How do we get the answers out of him?? Ask nicely?? Come on!! Where are we going to put these people that were suspected as a threat to us?
You're basing this on your assumption that torture will automatically get us the info we need. Leading interrogators will tell you that torture will not get you good info anyways.
What should rational people believe? Your assumptions? or leading interrogators expereience that's based on REALITY? interesting....
this is utter bullshit!! Obama is the biggest mistake we have made.. I dont give a shit what any of you say.. yea there shouldnt be a gitmo the worst of the worst are there and shouldnt be breathing not tortured they should be killed they have no regards for life of others apparently with 9/11 they think they getting frign massive count of virgins for doing horrible things then by all means give them a push in the direction of their virgins pff stupidity leading all the way to the top
Oh dont forget the 200,000+ innocent Afghans that were murdered with out any sort of cause. And the only reason Bush or Obama dont know what to do with the "murdering bastards" is because when you lock up a man for no reason and torture him and say he has done something that he might or might have not done. I can guarantee you any amount of money that the man in question will turn around and become everything you designed him to be.
We created monsters? These people were not put in Gitmo for being late to choir practice. They wouldn't think twice about wacking your head off. My husband underwent worse torture in Ranger School. You liberals need to wake up.
im sure he did neocon. you're just a keyboard wrestler. why dont you join the rangers and see how that tourture felt. better yet, why not be a volunteer gitmo prisonor befor Obama and see how good it feels. the people who deserve to be there should be there, if there is proof. if not they should go to a regular prison. and as for the canadian kid, he was 15 when he was brain washed to fight for Al Q and should be treated as a child soilder and as an adult who was in the war.
Agreed. Obama is the biggest mistake the USA has ever made. His short time in office has proved he is no fit for the position. But, it is perhaps the best thing that could have happened for Bush. By the time Obama is done ruining our country, any wrong Bush did will be viewed as minimal in comparison. God help us.
After 9-11 Democrats stood behind Bush for over a year and gave him a CHANCE. The fact Republicans are acting like babies when they have not even given their President a CHANCE is disgusting. Bush and his stupid war for OIL....He went to Iraq for OIL...
yea manning hes doing such a good job thats why he just threw a fit for billions of dollars for bullshit things like 200 mil to fix up the national mall, and 50 mil for abortions why there is thousands of americans losing jobs everyday and unemployment rate is going through the roof. no its not fuck you bobbytiger its wish you was in charge you got the right idea.ppl who dont have to best intrest for this country get out.dont have no regard for others lives then you dont deserve one.
After 9-11 Democrats stood behind Bush for over a year and gave him a CHANCE. The fact Republicans are acting like babies when they have not even given their President a CHANCE is disgusting. Bush and his stupid war for OIL....He went to Iraq for OIL... It costs us over 300 million dollars each day for a war with a country that was NEVER a threat to the US and caused the rest of the world to think we are a joke...WAKE UP!
You are blind. Years before George W. Bush became our president, most prominent Democrats wanted Saddam Hussein's head on a platter. President Clinton, Madeline Albright, Carl Levin, Robert Byrd, Bob Graham, John Kerry, etc. -- ALL said Saddam had WMD without question! You have no idea about this and think Bush "made it up" and went after oil. That's idiocy. I'll give your president the same respect you give Bush.
There are over 100 Democratic countries on earth and NONE of them have the issues we do with National Security and Oil Consumption. John McCcain ADMITTED on the campaing trail the War was for Oil so its not my fault you are blind....GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!
As I reflect upon American crimes against humanity today, in places like Gitmo & Abu Ghraib prison, it is no surprise that America is forever destined to carry the sign of Cain for the Hiroshima & Nagasaki bombings!
The longest America has gone without bombing someone is 2 years; America simply used the Nuremberg show-trials to hide itself in a haze of moral superlatives!
I guess his idea of "interrogation" is to ask "pretty-please" to the terrorists.
Saying your going to close Gitmo, and doing it are two different things. The Bama has had two years to formulate his plan, so why wait a year? Close it now you socialists fool, and get back to spending an additional trillion here, and a trillion there.
This "man" is pathetic, and is making "W" look better day by day.
You have to go through process and plan accordingly how to deal with the people already in there. That takes time. Ask pretty-please? Do you have the slightest clue about effective interrogation? Or do you base your assumptions on movies.
Obama gets things DONE for the people. He's constantly working, that's way better than Bush who didn't do jack shit.
In the end, you probably have way more to gain with Obama being in office (I doubt you are the 15% of Americans who are super rich)
TYT u stupid F*cks i have to unsuscribe right now. plz stop being obama zombies they only close gitmo because there are 500 camps in america how start talking about how obamas buddy emmanuel is trying to omit the 2nd ammendment talk about that instead of being pussy ass zombies
Yay, not more torture, Wait minute, didn't he give the OK on Bush policy that allows the CIA the power to preform renditions, opps, not as much of a change as we thought huh?
"The way I see it you are a Muslim as well and what you say isn't important."
I'm white but I think you're a fucking idiot. Way to presume the guilt of an entire race of people, because of the actions of a small group of them. You know who else did that? Hitler and Stalin.
Just send em to TEXAS we can take care of them. tuor you're the fucking asshole,you havent a good clue what these priple are capable of. Just shut your mouth as well as your eyes you cowardly bastard.
Another thing - to recruit suicide terrorists..they are given a promise of haven and virgins right? so in dream of better after life they suicide bomb thousands of people......so why don't we have a world wide regulation that anyone (from any race or religion) found guilty of terrorism, be fed to pigs and vultures and remains be thrown in gutter. by most religion that guarantees no haven = no recruitment of suicide bombers.
i am a liberal but I don't think any of the torture facilities should be closed at alll... what I would want is the tortures to be even worse crack their nuts with nut crackers pull their lips with monkey ranch and also let the world see. If it scares terrorists from killing people do it, if it gives you more info do it.
muslim terrorists are not educated they don't know the difference btw. good and bad. they don't think in terms of humanity of right and wrong. they won't think twice before killing your infant baby in name of alla (i hope thats public knowledge by now.) long term solution would be to educate them but in short term you have to scare the crap out of them.
No experience, No morals, No patriatism and No common sense. If you have a charismatic voice then report to the capital for try-outs. Expect long lines.
This is a big mistake. This is what I feared the most in this president, that the US will become a sitting duck for the terrorists. I know that Obama wants to better our image and go with popular views, but think about it. This move will result to terrorist activists who will eventually make more terrorists camps within our own borders. It wil be just a matter of time before we have another major attack.
What are you fearing most, Obama closing Guantanamo or the torture issue? I think the terrorists were far more likely to attack the US with George Bush as President 'cause they knew he was such a dumbass. Obama is extending his hand to the Muslim world, to let them know we are not their enemy. How would extending a hand in friendship cause someone to want to attack you?
Don't be a fool. Hamid Karzai told Mullah Omar that the Taliban were welcome back to Afghanistan and would be allowed to participate in the new democratic government. Omar's reply was effectively: "No way, we're going to kill you all and take back the whole thing." These people don't reason like you or I. They view such things as weakness. When I was in Iraq, they found it laughable how we restrained ourselves from firing into crowds. It's insanity.
Hehe, I guess I can see your point, too. What's so screwed up is that we (U.S.) can't win no matter what we do. Like you said the Iraqis laughed at the restraint showed by not firing into the crowds but HAD you fired into that crowd, they would've probably called you "murdering infidels" or something like it. The least we can do is let Obama try it his way before we start criticizing? (Just my personal opinion).
Agreed. I hope he succeeds, and I think everyone should sit back for a minute and see how he does. I think he can probably gain the US stronger international support, which is duly needed.
Turned out all to be bollocks, didn't it.
andrewsurtees 7 months ago
GITMO is still open!!!!!! Thank God for that!!!!!!! Obama is not in charge of anything. He is just a lackey forGeorge Soros, and must be working on his third or fourth pair of knee pads by now. Does he swallow, or just hold it so Soros thinks that he is drinking it all in?
dorodog 8 months ago
Obama = Politician = Never getting my vote again!
atheistveganheathan 9 months ago
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"Indeed, the failed effort to close Guantanamo was reflective of the aspects of Obama’s leadership style that continue to distress his liberal base — a willingness to allow room for compromise and a passivity that at times permits opponents to set the agenda." --Washington Post, April 23, 2011
hookalakah 9 months ago
GITMO is still open
hint0122 1 year ago
Hey everyone check out this funny video about Guantanamo Bay. its really funny. They show the kind of thugs in that prison that the librals think we were be to hard on .just type in on the search: nanaproductionfilms and it should be on the top of the list. enjoy. :)
jackeldepaulco 1 year ago
We can't close Gitmo!!! We need that place to put all this liers mother fuckers there!!!
Driftaway1000 1 year ago
He broke both of them.
Reqrezentin 1 year ago
wish he closed the whole gitmo and give it back to cuba
KangaKucha 1 year ago
more then a year and gitmo is not closed. obama is an idiot
hint0122 1 year ago
You know as well as I do, most of the terrorists in Gitmo are not really terrorists, and most of the real terrorists are not in Gitmo.
Most of them were probably just people had the balls to take the average family come-together "I really, really think, someone should kill George Bush" from the safety of the living room, and out in public.
The selfless, just, non corrupt president USA wants, doesn't exist in USA.
Obama is weak, a sideliner, but rather that than one who shoots the wrong people.
David1531992 1 year ago
Obama the first half-caste biracial mixed-race president not black.
OBAMAisHalfCaste 1 year ago
gitmo is still open
hint0122 1 year ago
U Neo-Liberals are funny. Ur NeoLiberal because you fight against the inherent common sense ideals of the true conservative, therefore furthering the NeoCon's domination and further Federalization of the world.
Ready to wake up and realize that "THEY" are against us all? Should this not be a wake up call... by now?
Legal minds (amidst your anti-war insanity) were telling us all that GITMO would be found legal. But man did this propaganda ever win you over
Obama's first job = H. Kissinger
473009723 1 year ago
lol, u two r fubar, i hope my meds are in!
JKugelRolls 2 years ago
One year later. Is Gitmo closed? Nope
Signed an executive order and didn't carry it out as promised.
One of many lies.
davidrobinsonmagic 2 years ago
30 DEC 09.... Gee, GITMO is still there.
When Ears makes a promise you better worry!
Monkmaster1969 2 years ago
Its not his fault the teleprompter told him to say it....lol
cobraman96 2 years ago
wouldnt alot of felons in max prisons love to be transferred to Gitmo??....3 friends died on 9/11.i wish they were in gitmo instead of dead.despite Obamas assertions...gitmos nowhere near closing.thankfully.
C5GrendelP 2 years ago
who said we wanted to turn time back 500 years public hangins where more like 2oo years ago and if you look at the crime rate back then and look at it now it was a whoe lot smaller.. and who said anything about burning witches that was back before ppl even discovered the americas you dumn fuck .. LEARN SOME HISTORY BEFORE YOU TRY TO ARGUE ABOUT SHIT YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT
MrVacilio 2 years ago
WOW!!! YOU ARE A DUMB SON OF A BITCH! YOU need to take your own advice. First there were public hangins in the early 1900's in america. Second have you ever heard of the Salem which trials, that was in Massachusetts,"THAT'S IN AMERICA in case you didn't know" THey burned witches! Holy Shit BATman, You ARE FUCKIN stupid.
JKugelRolls 2 years ago
Sorry it wasn't America yet when they burn the witches do your history!!
ekjohndeer 2 years ago
Check your mailbox and see if your meds came in yet! lmao
cobraman96 2 years ago
People burned witches in New England. Ever heard of the Salem witch trials?
The crime rate is lower now than it has been in a long time. Arrests are up and crime is down.
Capital punishment does not act as a deterrent.
DomingoHMaCoolstein 2 years ago
THIS GUY IS AN IDIOT!
cellmate1 2 years ago
seems like alot of you desperatly want to turn time back 500 years. how christian. boy so many people are so full of shit
promoting torture is one of the worst thing u can stand 4
brotmann86 2 years ago
dismantle FEMA CAMPS next
robertvdheide 2 years ago
i wish they would bring back the old tortures ppl would stop doing stupid shit in america... example steal from someone get ur hand chopped off, rape someone get ur dick cut off, and the way they kill prisoners on deathrow is just gay.... if you had public hangings when someone committed murder the crime level in america would drop dramatically
MrVacilio 2 years ago
yeah lets burn some witches
brotmann86 2 years ago
No it wouldn't.
And what if you sentence an innocent person to death? That makes you a murderer.
DomingoHMaCoolstein 2 years ago
Close Gitmo. Fuck that.
Hazmat002 2 years ago
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KABUL, Afghanistan -- As Marine Corps forces roll into southern Afghanistan, they face an enemy familiar to US officials -- Mullah Zakir, a former Guantanamo Bay prisoner who now leads a reconstituted Taliban.
wow what a surprise! you fucking stupid leftist trolls should not be in positions of power...your ideals of an infantile utopia get in the way of your logic
TheGroundstander 2 years ago
are some of these people stupid? you actually think that every person in gwantanamo is a terrorist. what would you do if you brother was captured and put in there for no reason whatsoever and tortured?
ibrahimadat 2 years ago
You call water boarding torture and if my sibling was captured and tortured i would not give a shit if it saved thousands of lives
RobLow41 2 years ago
... so your saying that if ur innocent sibling was water borded (which is an extreme form of torture by imitating droning) and put in gwantanamo without trial u wouldnt care? how ignorant are you?
ibrahimadat 2 years ago
Imitating drowing............IMITATING.... no i wouldnt give a shit
RobLow41 2 years ago
you cant face the fact that your comments are absolutely stupid so your pretending you dont give a shit. also drowning is one of the most traumatic experiances. obviously there imitating drowning because the whole point of torture is not to kill the oponent retard. electric shocing is also a form of torture which makes the body imitate what would happen if the body was in real danger of lightning and overide the commands of the neuurons. dsont bother commenting back ur fighting a lost cause
ibrahimadat 2 years ago 2
I have no doubts waterboarding is a very unpleasant experience. It must be so because it is considered 100 percent effective and usually induces cooperation within 30 seconds..... Did they not save thousands of lives by doing this?
RobLow41 2 years ago
what you fail to understand is that many of those water borded are innocent without trial. not only this but innocent people have had ther genitles cut an had other forms of pain inflicted upon them due to un confirmed suspicion.
ibrahimadat 2 years ago
Just stop waterboarding but close down Gitmo ridicoulous. There where other forms of tourture but probably just as harmless as waterboarding. What methods do you purpose......... asking politely..... come on man.
RobLow41 2 years ago
ok first off i am NOTdefending terrorists in my eyes its an eye for an eye. who i am defending are the innocent within gantanamo without trial. he closed gitmo down as a publblicity stunt to give the impression that he has closed the book on that part of dark american history. they will obviously set up shop elsewhere simply with different morals and regulations
ibrahimadat 2 years ago
Torture doesn't work. People will pretty much confess to anything if they're tortured.
DomingoHMaCoolstein 2 years ago
not true.
hint0122 1 year ago
@hint0122
Which part? Capital punishment doesn't act as a deterrent and crime rate has declined in the last ten years.
DomingoHMaCoolstein 1 year ago
i would say it acts since crooks will plead to lesser charges to get out of it.
hint0122 1 year ago
Sure, they give information. Analysis and study after study shows that the information is most often inaccurate. I'll tell you that I am Osama Bin Ladan if you waterboard me. That doesn't make it true or valuable.
AntigoneRisen 2 years ago
Pouring water up your nose is not an imitation of drowning. Just a few tablespoons of water can drown you.
AntigoneRisen 2 years ago
ya if your a Ant.
RobLow41 2 years ago
So what were you doing on 9/11? Dancing in the streets?
Avatarblackwolf 2 years ago
what an idiot this President is, announces he is closing GITMO without a plan.............how stupid can he be...........real STUPID!
cassapollard 2 years ago
Oh Yea, This is working out well. While you libs are now safe because of EIT, you just keep on coming with BS. Obama states he does not want these techniques used but in reality, he is smart enough to know they really worked and were needed at the time.
Now he sees he cannot shut down GITMO because even Congress won't allow penny one to be allocated until BO know what the plan is.
Does any of this make sense to the left? Wake up America. They are there for a reason, Leave 'em there!!!
JunkMan16 2 years ago
you fucking dick, Obama and the rest of us "Libs" are defending fuckers like you because you actually believed that torture was the right agenda. America would be overwhelmed with jihad if the gitmo photos were released, and so actually adopted one of Bush's policies. Why can't you get on the wagon with this?
EasternCalifornia 2 years ago
ur a stupid fuck rnt u?
qdog79 2 years ago
When the hell did terrorist become the victims? i wish we had someplace to put these people. i wish we had a maximum security prison somewhere outside the U.S. I dont know maybe in cuba where we could keep them. That would be nice if we had that huh? I wish these liberal would quit being pusses. They think we should be nice to terrorist as not to upset them and cause them to to take action against us. When did we become France. Lets appologize for being the greatest country on earth! BULLSHIT!!
mountaindiesel2000 2 years ago
What's Obama going to do next, after the ACLU and the other civil rights assholes, along with the Europeans, blast him for holding the terrorists in US jails because they are "too harsh". When he gets done wasting our tax dollars on the trials and the juries release these scumbags, where is he going to send them? No one wants them. Well, Chicago get ready you are about to be the proud host to 500+ terrorists. Or we can sent them all to Dickie Turbin or Jack Murthas districts.
IMPLR1369007 2 years ago 2
Or better yet, we can house the terrorists in the Lincoln Bedroom since Obama seems to be so friendly toward them.
IMPLR1369007 2 years ago 2
This is the best idea. Mishelle would be proud one more time
mikytubebla 2 years ago
send them to obamas house
hint0122 1 year ago
he should let them stay with him.
hint0122 1 year ago
listening to BO is torture
robsher 2 years ago
Why he is striving to shut gitmo down. There are so many other things to worry about other than where some POS terrorists will stay. It is pretty clear that we have an idiot for a president.
generalgoodgravy 2 years ago 2
shut the fuck up and listen to the video. what r u like 12 ???
RebelFactory 2 years ago
R u listening
RobLow41 2 years ago
Angry, Simple,and Sad.
whatspass 2 years ago
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Waterboarding, surfboarding, who gives a damn!! The Bush staff members were only trying to DEFEND OUR COUNTRY, AMERICA, NOT KENYA!!
Yeah, close the GITMO camp and ship all those TERRORISTS to Obama's office at the WHITE HOUSE. Let them live with him in his wife's vegetable garden.
Obama has sooo much SYMPATHY FOR TERRORISTS!! What about U.S. Soldiers who got tortured by terrorists?? Obama couldn't do a damn thing!
Obama can only torture his own AMERICANS!
dan3956 2 years ago
Hitler was only trying to defend his country from what he perceived as non-Aryan threats.
Stalin was only trying to protect his country from what he perceived as traitors who wanted to reinstate the Tsardom.
Some of the most evil acts in history were done in defense of one's country. Saying you're doing something horrible to "defend your country" doesn't make what you're doing any less horrible.
AwfulVision 2 years ago 2
So true!
DrOktopuzZz 2 years ago
waterboarding is not torture...
xthebfgx 2 years ago 2
You are delusional and ill informed.
badbubbagump 2 years ago
The terrorists tortured the hell out of our American soldiers so why the hell should we give our enemies a break in the interrogation chamber??
If someone kills or bully your siblings, would you be nice to them or you would you beat the crap out of them?? Beat the crap out of them?
OBAMA does not make any sense. He is still stuck in the past trying to fight to end slavery when slavery already ended in America many years ago.
dan3956 2 years ago
If we employ the tactics of the terrorists, we become no better than them.
We're America, we should be better than our enemies, as a people, as a country, in action and in words.
Sometimes being better than your enemies means not giving in to blood lust and becoming just as bad as your enemies.
I'm sure you'll accuse me of being some kind of touchy-feely liberal, but if you really loved your country, you wouldn't want to stoop to the very tactics the terrorists you hate use.
AwfulVision 2 years ago
Aaaaand there it is. Dog-whistle racism.
No one said anything about slavery, but see, you bring it up because Obama is black. Blacks were at one point slaves, therefor...
AwfulVision 2 years ago
Obama is USELESS AND HELPLESS without his speach writer and his TELEPROMPTER!!
HOOKED ON PHONICS !!!
dan3956 2 years ago
Hmm... that sounds kinda... elitist. Maybe you should come out of that ivory tower, egghead.
Typical conservative hypocrisy. Accuse liberals of being "elitist" and "condescending", and then insult their intelligence, heritage, economic status, religion, etc. thereby implying you're better or more intelligent than they are.
Hate to break it to you, scout, but that's "elitism", you fucking elitist.
AwfulVision 2 years ago
Obama, don't be nice to your ENEMIES (terrorists) YOU DUMB ASS!!
Obama goes around the world and shakes hands with our enemies.
He is also an ass kisser, humiliating American pride by bowing down to the Saudis!!
Obama and his shameful man-like wife are doing everything to tear America apart. Other countries don't fear or respect Obama.
Those Dumb-old crats who voted for Obama are soo stupid!!
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donottake 2 years ago
we won't torture; we will continue to abduct people and have our allies apply old school medieval torture to them.
in reaffirming renditions, obama is effectively saying exactly that.
ellwyn 2 years ago
obama is a spineless president and can't protect this country and letting more terrorist enter the u.s. ya there a smart move obama let not torture and let the terrorist free in the u.s.
cowboy45678 2 years ago
Once again, thank you Lord for removing that worthless and sorry excuse for a president, Bush and replacing IT with a compitent and worthy president, Obama.
MelodyJamms27 2 years ago 2
that's funny, a worthy president. obama is probably the dumbest person i have ever seen
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They destroyed the torture video tapes because they knew if those tapes were made public, a lot of the Bush Administration would be going to prison
kymystic65 2 years ago
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Cenk - Fuck you, you're a fucking faggot bitch.
expert244 2 years ago
As of today, Apr. 22/09, Gitmo is not closed and torture has increased at Gitmo. Now regarding the black sites, there are 18,000 prisoners in these and the US is expanding their prison in Afghanistan to the tune of $40 million. Extraordinary rendition of course has not stopped. Now do you know why Obama does not want to see prosecutions for torture?
cheddyrod 2 years ago
if they had a hold of one of us they would torture and cut our head off,but we have to be nice to them
sizzorgirl67 2 years ago
It's SIMPLE, the reason obama is against torturing terrorists who what to do harm to the USA is because soooo many of them are his friends!
Take William Ayers, his close friend and former co-worker as a case in point.
oboma boy feels sorry for them and rather have Americans killed than torture his fellow terrorist.
Bottom line, obama is a terrorist sympathizer... no more, no less.
bearhunter987 2 years ago
Obama has authorized an increase of 17,000 US troops for Afghanistan, the nation that gave Bin Laden safe haven and a training ground. Bush allowed things to devolve there becasue of his obsession with Iraq. He has also spoken openly about using armed drones to go after Al Queda in the hinterlands of Pakistan. Obama has described Ayers radical activity as 'despicable' [ not a friendly comment] After WWII a Japanese officer was executed for water-boarding a US grunt. History is a bitch.
molloyx 2 years ago 2
obama a liar
leebee39 2 years ago
The world is a lot safer with those prisoners in Gitmo. They try to say they were tortured. They don't know what torture is.
brian80o 2 years ago
And I'm guessing you do?
TDarkHunt 2 years ago
yeah, a cock meat sand which.
thablackmarkit 2 years ago
obama sucks
EnigmaTaco 2 years ago
The average American is only ok with different classes.. Because they are to stupid and lazy to do anything about it.. Working hard and earning nice things is all fine.. But to say its acceptable to spend thousands of dollars on a haircut while others cant even afford a doctor visit, is just obscenely ignorant In this country not only is it acceptable to be a miser but its admirable and thats disgusting..
Basedeath 2 years ago 2
The greed and corruption has rotted this country from the inside out.. And soon it will collapse.. Theres not a damn thing Obama Bush or their Zionist buddies can do about it. Actually I believe thats what The Jews want And im not trying to be racist or hateful.. But lets be honest. even other Jews have to admit.. Who runs the media in America.. Who owns the world bank?. Who have we been sending billions of dollars to ..so they can fund their holy war..
Basedeath 2 years ago
Am I crazy or is it just coincidental that the economy collapsed when it did.. It seems to me that the ailing job market along with the flood of illegal immigrants has left many young Americans with no options for employment besides the military which is always hiring I mean what other reason could our government have.. To let all these people in I know they didnt just suddenly develop a conscience and felt bad about past transgressions and decided to make amends..
Basedeath 2 years ago
Obama isnt going to change a thing at least not significantly Because the Jews that really run our country wont allow it.. Im sure they sat his ass down . And let him know exactly who is in charge and what would happen to him if he steps out of line All he is doing is rewording a few things and promising changes that will take place years from now If he was going to make some changes for the better he would of dealt with the criminals that ran our country for the last eight years.
Basedeath 2 years ago
don't you guys know what the jihad mind thinks?
THEY BELIEVE IF THEY KILL YOU THEY GO TO HEAVEN.
how are you going to do some dumbass liberal bullshit negotiation with them.
weak.
Obama has no idea how to handle this shit.
guitbox9 2 years ago
Obama has taken another step to please radical Code Pink and ACLU supporters by ending the classification of enemy combatant. This is the designation that has allowed the United State government to arrest and confine some of the most dangerous terrorists.
He doesnt seem to understand the war on terrorism is real. He keeps treating it like a criminal case where liberal lawyers can use legal loopholes to get dangerous terrorists back on the battlefield to kill Americans.
espada9 2 years ago
The war on terrorism is a phrase invented by George W. Bush. He escalated the situation immensely. The Obama administration has stopped the shredding of the Constitution. That's something to be proud of.
joshatkins94 2 years ago
ahhh ah and ahh I ahh ahh a ahhh I won't torture. I beg to differ. If it saves one life of an American. Red is positive, black is negative, and make sure their testicles are wet when applied.
00knowitall 2 years ago
Torture doesn't save lives.
joshatkins94 2 years ago
The fuck it doesn't! What the hell would YOU know about it?
flyboymd82 2 years ago
Today they came out and announced they will no longer call them "enemy combatants". They are now called "freedom fighters".
One of Obama's first orders was to ban the term "war on terror".
Any question what side this lying marxist charlitan is on?
FUCK OBAMA!
flyboymd82 2 years ago
come on, youre ridiculous, do you even kno what marxism is? i mean seriously...
he bans the term war on terror cause its way too general cause that term makes lots of stupid people think every conflict or war that goes on in the middle east is the "war on terrorism"...
TheDrZoidberg 2 years ago
Uh, no I go no idear who Karl Marx be. I just be a ignorant neocon retard ya know....sonded good douh.........
YEAH I know what marxism is! Its a failed idea where the gov't runs and owns everything and "spreads the wealth" as Obama said to "JOE".....What is Obama doing right now? Taking over control of the banking/mortgage industry.
YOUR rediculous! He's pandering to our enemy is what he's doing!
Open your eyes & use your brain to think for yourself & look whats going on! Wake up. Damn!
flyboymd82 2 years ago
xD ok, that was good, yes, you ran totally into it, you just described what some people and governments made out of marxism/ marxist communism... but that is not really what marx and engels were aiming for and marx even said that if that is marxism then he is no marxist.
his idea was a government that regulates the economy, not owns every companyand one of his most important ideas behind it was eliminating class differences. that is not what obama is goin for
TheDrZoidberg 2 years ago
Thats exactly what Obama is going for. He spews 'class envy' everyday. American'a are not like Germany. We are Okay with different classes. Here, if you work your ass off, you can be anything & wealthy beyond your wildest imagination. If you don't live to work, you can still have a nice life. I've never gotten a job from a poor man. So what your saying is dead wrong. Marxism demands the Gov't employs the people and determines their future and fate & IS the elite!
Srew that! We like freedom!
flyboymd82 2 years ago
well, obama goal is not the total elimination of classes and he's not a marxist cause to achieve both marx said you need a revolution and not reforms. ...
and yeah, ask all the people that struggle now with keeping teir home because they dont get paid well...
and just for the record, im a socialist not a communist...
republicans want socialsim for themself, but not for anyone else... they want the best healthcare but as soon as anyone else wants it and they have to pay some taxes they freak out
TheDrZoidberg 2 years ago
Ok, so this guy is so full of shit. First of all, they are NOT closing down GITMO, they are "looking" at thinking about closing down GITMO in a year. Secondly, the secret rendition and black sites will only be INTENSIFIED under Obama, thirdly torture will continue....need I say more. Meet the new president - Obama, same as the old president - Bush.
clbackus 2 years ago
Bullshit. Get help man.
joshatkins94 2 years ago
Prove it. Prove that gitmo is not a facade, a distraction, a diversion, look at Exec. Order 13492 and tell me it doesn't say in Section 3 that prisoners "shall be returned to their home country, released, transferred to a third country, or transferred to another United States detention facility" If you just move them to secret facilities elsewhere what you have done...you've spread the shit around the yard instead of making one big pile of it. Where do you think those "third countries" are?
clbackus 2 years ago
Tuesday, March 10, 2009
WASHINGTON — The Taliban's new top operations officer in southern Afghanistan had been a prisoner at the Guantanamo Bay detention center, the latest example of a freed detainee who took a militant leadership role and a potential complication for the Obama administration's efforts to close the prison.
matsugakigaki 2 years ago
Can't argue with you there, your rebuttal is hard to disagree with. Our government is definitely not honest with itself at all. I think in the end most good people have the same things in common.
hargino 2 years ago
Agreed
CitizenJustice0501 2 years ago
Mr. Obama do u thinks that Zionist control media and intelligence will allow u to work freely. Before u come to u r post they did dirty conspiracy that the hope for the peaceful solution of pal-Israel conflict finished they given a signal to attack and on Gaza and do all possible crimes which could create more hate in Muslims for Israel and usa so that as a result this problem could never solve and hamas will go back to militancy and take revenge like this ur presidency will be fail.
dpremi1126 2 years ago
They're POW's LIBTARD they shouldn't be in regular prisons. BTW women can't joint the Rangers but you wouldn't know that b/c you wouldn't know anything about that. You'd have to be a REAL MAN to be a ranger & you're obviously left-wing Fag.
rideemcowboys 2 years ago
Fag means a bundle of sticks or a cigerate.......
Zaron42 2 years ago
^ very true, rideemcowboy needs to find a dictionary.
vampireshan 2 years ago
yes however the terminology of fag to mean someone who is homosexual is actually correct since the term was coined by the puritans when they would add gay people to the fagot, meaning bundle of sticks, to burn witches. So technically rideemcowboys is correct since the gay person literally became part of the fagot and now is used to demean gay people.
CitizenJustice0501 2 years ago
I tell you one thing, If a terrorist is moved from Gitmo, trialed, and released, I will bet you the money which Obama has promised to give us (which I am sure he won't) that that terrorist wont go home to his or her family, and they will want to get revenge.
Terrorists have relinquished the right to freedom and fair trials when they killed American civilians and attacked our glorious American Fatherland! (p.s. I am a nationalist not a Nazi)
CitizenJustice0501 2 years ago
....many of them are being held even though there is no evidence against them. and if they do want revenge for being held without right, who do you think is to blame?
vampireshan 2 years ago
Are you really trying to show sympathy for terrorists? This is the exact reason why our society is faulting. Have you forgotten the terrorist attacks of 9-11? Have your forgotten the lives that were lost due to these mad men? Torture is a necessary evil since it can protect the American people from harm and a certain death. I do not know if you read the news or not but numerous of former Gitmo Terrorists that were released have been rearrested due to their failure to cease terrorist actions.
CitizenJustice0501 2 years ago
I like how this person acts like they know what their talking about, oh my husbands a ranger, whoop dee fucking doo, our society is failing because of naive people like yourself. Have we not lost more soldiers from Operation Iraqi Freeedom than 9-11? Where has it gotten us? We found WOMD? Osama? Do you even know how many soldiers have killed themselves since coming back from war? No sympathy for them, huh?
hargino 2 years ago
I like how you bleeding heart liberals are so hypocritical. Due to the fact how uninformed you are, I am prepared to give you a history lesson. After the fall of the Soviet Union, corrupt government officials had sold pieces of nuclear weapons to the Russian mafia (thank you Boris Yeltsin). These mafia men had than put these small nuclear devises into suitcases, and sold them on the black market. The American government has been able to intercept three suitcase-nukes from the black market.
CitizenJustice0501 2 years ago
We have no idea how many suitcase-nukes had been fabricated. Therefore it can be a common assumption that the nuclear device was moved since the 4 estate (media) decided to announce everything that we did and were going to do. It is easy to move a suitcase-nuke since it is after all in a suitcase.
Oh and don't forget these solders are enlistees, not draftees. They CHOSE to join the military to protect the Fatherland! Remember that before you make these accusations.
CitizenJustice0501 2 years ago
Alright, says YOU. You are so high up in the government you know of everything that is going on, behind closed doors included. Since people CHOSE to join means they are die hard elitist Americans? You can assume things all you want and talk about the past and everything but until you realize that we really have no control over the U.S. as a whole, just our own actions, the world might be a better place. Doesn't the U.S. government sell old weapons to undemocratic countries anyways? This is fun!
hargino 2 years ago
Well I never said that those within the military are part of a elitist class, since I believe that those at home stimulating our society are as, if not more, important. And of course we do not have control over the United States Government, its a Republic not a democracy after all. Also I am not closed minded, I know actions like that Iranian-Contra affair are horrid indeed. But the fact is that we live in America and we should do what is best for Americans first.
CitizenJustice0501 2 years ago
I personally believe that current government we are under is corrupt and marred to the core. I feel that the Obama administration is much like the Weimar Republic in Germany after the Great War. The Federal government of the United States is most likely going to fall sooner rather than later. The fact as I said is that we should serve the American people first and foremost. That is the most imperative action which we should take. Also I do enjoy a very well oiled and intriguing debate.
CitizenJustice0501 2 years ago
There are plenty of documented quotes, for those willing to seek truth over opinion, from President Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Madeline Albright and many other prominent democrats adamant that Saddam Hussein had WMD. Of course, the truth has been spun out of control as if only the Republicans believed this to be so. McCain made a comment he clarified referenced the Gulf War not Iraq -- and that going into Iraq was due to the believed WMD. Some people only hear what they want to hear.
vhopson 2 years ago
The Young Turks are such assholes. I can see what Obama wants to do with this because we are "Civilized" or whatever but i have to raise a question..Say we capture Bin laden, and he has knowledge of another attack, How do we get the answers out of him?? Ask nicely?? Come on!! Where are we going to put these people that were suspected as a threat to us?
srt4racer099 3 years ago
You're basing this on your assumption that torture will automatically get us the info we need. Leading interrogators will tell you that torture will not get you good info anyways.
What should rational people believe? Your assumptions? or leading interrogators expereience that's based on REALITY? interesting....
Vash1202 2 years ago
this is utter bullshit!! Obama is the biggest mistake we have made.. I dont give a shit what any of you say.. yea there shouldnt be a gitmo the worst of the worst are there and shouldnt be breathing not tortured they should be killed they have no regards for life of others apparently with 9/11 they think they getting frign massive count of virgins for doing horrible things then by all means give them a push in the direction of their virgins pff stupidity leading all the way to the top
InVictuS2217 3 years ago
Yes indeed InVictuS2217, this video is utter bullshit. But it is what one should expect from this liberal, (err.......progressive), site.
Liberals are quick to forget the slaughter of Americans on 9.11, just as quick as they are to forgive those who have done us harm.
Gitmol remains still open under Obama, because he doesn't know, (any more than Pres. Bush), what to do with these murdering bastards.
May I suggest that next time, a couple of properly placed bullets should solve the problem.
bobbytiger 2 years ago
Oh dont forget the 200,000+ innocent Afghans that were murdered with out any sort of cause. And the only reason Bush or Obama dont know what to do with the "murdering bastards" is because when you lock up a man for no reason and torture him and say he has done something that he might or might have not done. I can guarantee you any amount of money that the man in question will turn around and become everything you designed him to be.
abio123 2 years ago
I would worry about the people in Gitmo because you have created monsters and now you have to face them.
abio123 2 years ago
We created monsters? These people were not put in Gitmo for being late to choir practice. They wouldn't think twice about wacking your head off. My husband underwent worse torture in Ranger School. You liberals need to wake up.
Ranger Wife 3/75
rideemcowboys 2 years ago
im sure he did neocon. you're just a keyboard wrestler. why dont you join the rangers and see how that tourture felt. better yet, why not be a volunteer gitmo prisonor befor Obama and see how good it feels. the people who deserve to be there should be there, if there is proof. if not they should go to a regular prison. and as for the canadian kid, he was 15 when he was brain washed to fight for Al Q and should be treated as a child soilder and as an adult who was in the war.
abio123 2 years ago
Agreed. Obama is the biggest mistake the USA has ever made. His short time in office has proved he is no fit for the position. But, it is perhaps the best thing that could have happened for Bush. By the time Obama is done ruining our country, any wrong Bush did will be viewed as minimal in comparison. God help us.
vhopson 2 years ago
After 9-11 Democrats stood behind Bush for over a year and gave him a CHANCE. The fact Republicans are acting like babies when they have not even given their President a CHANCE is disgusting. Bush and his stupid war for OIL....He went to Iraq for OIL...
livelovebe1970 2 years ago
Ohh thank you Lord for removing that sorry excuse for a president, Bush!!!
Thank you or should I call him "Bush Shit"
MelodyJamms27 3 years ago
## shady ass obama..... we are f -ed!!
carlsbadtuber 3 years ago
Fuck you bobbytiger, Obama is doing a pretty damn good job!
manning1980 3 years ago
Yeah right
srt4racer099 3 years ago
yea manning hes doing such a good job thats why he just threw a fit for billions of dollars for bullshit things like 200 mil to fix up the national mall, and 50 mil for abortions why there is thousands of americans losing jobs everyday and unemployment rate is going through the roof. no its not fuck you bobbytiger its wish you was in charge you got the right idea.ppl who dont have to best intrest for this country get out.dont have no regard for others lives then you dont deserve one.
InVictuS2217 2 years ago
After 9-11 Democrats stood behind Bush for over a year and gave him a CHANCE. The fact Republicans are acting like babies when they have not even given their President a CHANCE is disgusting. Bush and his stupid war for OIL....He went to Iraq for OIL... It costs us over 300 million dollars each day for a war with a country that was NEVER a threat to the US and caused the rest of the world to think we are a joke...WAKE UP!
livelovebe1970 2 years ago
You are blind. Years before George W. Bush became our president, most prominent Democrats wanted Saddam Hussein's head on a platter. President Clinton, Madeline Albright, Carl Levin, Robert Byrd, Bob Graham, John Kerry, etc. -- ALL said Saddam had WMD without question! You have no idea about this and think Bush "made it up" and went after oil. That's idiocy. I'll give your president the same respect you give Bush.
vhopson 2 years ago
There are over 100 Democratic countries on earth and NONE of them have the issues we do with National Security and Oil Consumption. John McCcain ADMITTED on the campaing trail the War was for Oil so its not my fault you are blind....GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!
livelovebe1970 2 years ago
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As I reflect upon American crimes against humanity today, in places like Gitmo & Abu Ghraib prison, it is no surprise that America is forever destined to carry the sign of Cain for the Hiroshima & Nagasaki bombings!
The longest America has gone without bombing someone is 2 years; America simply used the Nuremberg show-trials to hide itself in a haze of moral superlatives!
sugarpuddin88 3 years ago
president obama sounds good
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XskatZ7 3 years ago
This "President" is crazy.
I guess his idea of "interrogation" is to ask "pretty-please" to the terrorists.
Saying your going to close Gitmo, and doing it are two different things. The Bama has had two years to formulate his plan, so why wait a year? Close it now you socialists fool, and get back to spending an additional trillion here, and a trillion there.
This "man" is pathetic, and is making "W" look better day by day.
bobbytiger 3 years ago
You have to go through process and plan accordingly how to deal with the people already in there. That takes time. Ask pretty-please? Do you have the slightest clue about effective interrogation? Or do you base your assumptions on movies.
Obama gets things DONE for the people. He's constantly working, that's way better than Bush who didn't do jack shit.
In the end, you probably have way more to gain with Obama being in office (I doubt you are the 15% of Americans who are super rich)
Vash1202 2 years ago
TYT u stupid F*cks i have to unsuscribe right now. plz stop being obama zombies they only close gitmo because there are 500 camps in america how start talking about how obamas buddy emmanuel is trying to omit the 2nd ammendment talk about that instead of being pussy ass zombies
BlackRadical001 3 years ago
damn straight!!
InVictuS2217 3 years ago
Yay, not more torture, Wait minute, didn't he give the OK on Bush policy that allows the CIA the power to preform renditions, opps, not as much of a change as we thought huh?
EvilPacMan123 3 years ago
The way I see it you are a Muslim as well and what you say isn't important.
jetfueller 3 years ago
"The way I see it you are a Muslim as well and what you say isn't important."
I'm white but I think you're a fucking idiot. Way to presume the guilt of an entire race of people, because of the actions of a small group of them. You know who else did that? Hitler and Stalin.
Don't ever contribute to the gene pool asshole.
tuor1984 3 years ago 4
Just send em to TEXAS we can take care of them. tuor you're the fucking asshole,you havent a good clue what these priple are capable of. Just shut your mouth as well as your eyes you cowardly bastard.
jetfueller 3 years ago
HEIL! HEIL! DER FURER!!
ParapaDrifter 3 years ago
high five!
caddyy 3 years ago
^^this guy.
ilikepie11111 3 years ago
Another thing - to recruit suicide terrorists..they are given a promise of haven and virgins right? so in dream of better after life they suicide bomb thousands of people......so why don't we have a world wide regulation that anyone (from any race or religion) found guilty of terrorism, be fed to pigs and vultures and remains be thrown in gutter. by most religion that guarantees no haven = no recruitment of suicide bombers.
ninadbhatt 3 years ago
i am a liberal but I don't think any of the torture facilities should be closed at alll... what I would want is the tortures to be even worse crack their nuts with nut crackers pull their lips with monkey ranch and also let the world see. If it scares terrorists from killing people do it, if it gives you more info do it.
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menthol5 3 years ago
muslim terrorists are not educated they don't know the difference btw. good and bad. they don't think in terms of humanity of right and wrong. they won't think twice before killing your infant baby in name of alla (i hope thats public knowledge by now.) long term solution would be to educate them but in short term you have to scare the crap out of them.
ninadbhatt 3 years ago
I don't understand why the stupid herd keep saying Obama's closing Guantanamo. He's just changing the name and location of it!!!! Freaken retards!
By the way... I think we should close San Quentin... at least those rampaging murderers are American!
heliman29 3 years ago
If you cannot act humane towards someone, you do not deserve to be treated in a humane manner.
skrod12 3 years ago 4
I say bring these prisoners to Lucasville Ohio..they would last very long in that prison.
deerhunter45628 3 years ago
Wanted: United States President.
No experience, No morals, No patriatism and No common sense. If you have a charismatic voice then report to the capital for try-outs. Expect long lines.
TakingBreathAway 3 years ago
American Idol elected this guy.
ninanwk69 3 years ago
This is a big mistake. This is what I feared the most in this president, that the US will become a sitting duck for the terrorists. I know that Obama wants to better our image and go with popular views, but think about it. This move will result to terrorist activists who will eventually make more terrorists camps within our own borders. It wil be just a matter of time before we have another major attack.
Muraya5 3 years ago
What are you fearing most, Obama closing Guantanamo or the torture issue? I think the terrorists were far more likely to attack the US with George Bush as President 'cause they knew he was such a dumbass. Obama is extending his hand to the Muslim world, to let them know we are not their enemy. How would extending a hand in friendship cause someone to want to attack you?
audgeyp 3 years ago
Don't be a fool. Hamid Karzai told Mullah Omar that the Taliban were welcome back to Afghanistan and would be allowed to participate in the new democratic government. Omar's reply was effectively: "No way, we're going to kill you all and take back the whole thing." These people don't reason like you or I. They view such things as weakness. When I was in Iraq, they found it laughable how we restrained ourselves from firing into crowds. It's insanity.
einsatzdeath 3 years ago
Hehe, I guess I can see your point, too. What's so screwed up is that we (U.S.) can't win no matter what we do. Like you said the Iraqis laughed at the restraint showed by not firing into the crowds but HAD you fired into that crowd, they would've probably called you "murdering infidels" or something like it. The least we can do is let Obama try it his way before we start criticizing? (Just my personal opinion).
audgeyp 3 years ago
Agreed. I hope he succeeds, and I think everyone should sit back for a minute and see how he does. I think he can probably gain the US stronger international support, which is duly needed.
einsatzdeath 3 years ago