@psychedellic420 Well if you know anything that Hawking has theorized, he explains that the "energy level" of the universe is 0 because of negative energy, by the way if you are a theist and believe that everything follows cause and effect who created god?
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
Find the love of God here.
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@ClamCrunchy I hope that it were so, but the world is headed to a one world religion with one of your people to lead it, called the anti christ. Don't take the mark or worship the beast, even though he will be an evolutionist.
To avoid this horrible time coming, you need the free gift of God which can be found here.
Gospel of John Chapter 1 AV
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@InternetDisciple Stop strawmanning science you fucking idiot. No one says to ignore the evidence, THIS IS WHAT THE EVIDENCE TELLS US! It's pretty easy to misunderstand the evidence WHEN YOU IGNORE IT.
All people like Hawking give us is just their own Godless, metaphysical proposition which they deceitfully propagate under the guise of objectivity & science. The "God of the gaps" accusation is just a straw man; people have rational, logical reasons for pointing to God to explain phenomena which atheists refuse to accept. For most atheists, there's no rational/logical basis for belief in God so no reason to see things from the perspectives of those who believe otherwise.
It has been conclusively demonstrated in independent experiments at Cal Tech and M.I.T. that the number of "LOL"s (or haha's, which is basically the same thing) contained in a comment on a video pertaining to scientific Theories is always inversely proportional to the persons intelligence and meaningful understanding of said Theory.
From where do atheists think that everything came?
I know that many atheists say that it cannot be known from where everything came, but that doesn't mean that it cannot be known that something must have brought everything into existence.
@InternetDisciple hahahahahahaha you are still around? Ok I'll work on that video today. I honestly thought you disappeared and figured why bother. But since you still insist on spreading your fallacious argument, I'm demolishing it once and for all.
@YourBrainOnReligion Earlier in the day I filled these plastic trays with water and then put them in the freezer.. a short while later I took it out and it was filled with.. fucking Ice! Explain that smart guy, you think that fucking ice just created itself?
@InternetDisciple The only laughing involved will be at your own expense. I love how you honestly think you know more than Stephen Hawking. You're one arrogant piece of shit.
@InternetDisciple "I am not the one that believes that matter can somehow create itself. " Stop strawmanning me you fucking retard. Matter has always existed and you know that is mine AND science's position.
"I'll stick with real science and leave the fairy tales to Hawking."
Did you honestly just infer that Stephen Hawking isn't "real science" ??? You truly are 100% braindead. Stephen Hawking is the epitome of a scientist you knuckle dragging buffoon. I have truly developed hate for you.
@InternetDisciple No, you're referring to science in general. Science in general understands matter has always existed; whether or not it is in the form of only quarks and bosons in a pre-matter state, it is still considered by physics to be matter. You're playing semantics games because you know how retarded you are.
"explain again why you feel that anyone should believe in your stopped time theory." Because some crazy guy named EINSTEIN proved it in his theory of SPECIAL RELATIVITY. Idiot.
I just explained that. "Matter has always existed" is simplifying the same fucking principle you braindead moron. What else are we supposed to call, essentially, "loose" quarks and bosons which exist in a pre-matter state? I guess they could call it pre-matter, but why do we need the distinction? Anyone talking about matter in the singularity (should) understand precisely what they're talking about. For lack of a better word, "matter HAS always existed" and hawking would certainly agree.
""Matter has always existed" is simplifying the same ... principle you..."
So it seems that you are trying to have it both ways. Hawking said that he believes that matter can create itself - and you seem to be agreeing with him; either that, or you are trying to twist his words. Myself, I think that he believes that matter can somehow create itself because he said that matter can somehow create itself.
Hawking's saying matter *IN ITS CURRENT STATE* was self-assembled (or "created", if u insist) from quarks, bosons and other particles. However, these particles that matter was "created" from were NOT previously non-existent as your poor argument insists.
Think for a sec: If you "create" a wooden chair, did you just make it magically appear from thin air, or did you use existing materials to build it? It's the same principle. No one is saying chairs or molecules magically appear (besides you).
"...essentially, "loose" quarks and bosons which exist in a pre-matter state?"
And then -poof- supposed "pre-matter" became matter? Your fairy tale is very entertaining. Myself, I stick with real science: matter can't create itself.
Perhaps you could entertain me some more with your 'stopped time' fairy tale.
Go check your driveways everyone and see if a corvette somehow created itself there! Ha, ha!
@InternetDisciple Yes, -poof- pre-matter self-assembled into matter. We're not sure why or how but that certainly doesn't give rational reason to resort to the tired ass "god of the gaps" crap. What does that teach us? Nothing. It's a recessive answer. Thankfully, people many generations before us understood this, otherwise we'd still be in the dark ages.
"Your fairy tale is very entertaining. Myself, I stick with real science: matter can't create itself." Your projection is disgusting.
"Nothing you said rebutted anything I've presented."
'Oh, no! Brent said that nothing I've said has rebutted anything that he's posted. Does that mean that nothing I've said has rebutted anything he's posted? No? He could be wrong about that? Well, he most likely wrong again then.'
@InternetDisciple "Perhaps you could entertain me some more with your 'stopped time' fairy tale."
What aspect of time being a property of matter do you not understand? I enjoy discussing the topic as it's a challenging topic to even think about. I've tried to explain to you that spacetime is something Einstein figured out when figuring out the Theory of Special Relativity. I've even shown you the exact formulas in the past, so I'm not sure why you keep pretending to be ignorant of it.
@InternetDisciple I just did. Einstein proved it to be so with his mathematical theories. You know, mathematics, where they actually PROVE things CONCLUSIVELY. So I will tell you just like I told you last time, if you can show me an error in Einstein's equations for the theory of special relativity, I'm all ears jakiepoo. But since you can't even read the damn equation, I know your only available option is to act like a spoiled brat who just got told they couldn't have any candy. Grow up.
"Ol' Jake's Tensor Calculus ain't what it used to be.."
Ha, ha! That seems very much like: 'Please believe that matter can somehow create itself because I say that Jake's calculus isn't what it used to be.'
Again: 'No, little children,' says Mr Atheist, 'nobody put those presents under the Christmas tree. They just created themselves there.' Even little children understand correctly that somebody put those presents there.
'I say that Jake has no idea what Tensor Calculus is and, I say, that a clinical psychologist would have a field day with him; therefore, please believe that matter can somehow create itself.'
Keep 'em coming, Sofa. Even little children understand correctly that somebody put those presents under the Christmas tree.
@InternetDisciple How do you think I knew that you were jakedevon ID? Your idiotic, repetitive blathering has a retard signature you can see from Space..
I suspect that the reason that you are using so many personal attacks is because that's all that you have for your 'matter can somehow create itself' fairy tale.
'I say that Jake is an idiotic, repetitive retard and, therefore, please believe that matter can somehow create itself.'
Again: 'No, little children,' said Mr Atheist, 'nobody put those presents under the Christmas tree. The presents just created themselves there.'
I would love to know how he can prove this, the usual hocus pocus garbage, evolution and the big bang are a religion make no mistake about it and those of us who dont believe are obviously to stupid to realise they have got it all figured out.
@YourBrainOnReligion Hehe.. yeah that would explain a lot.. "Hawking's fairy tale of matter.." Dude this shit is better than South Park..
Ain't it a hoot how faith alone puts you on superior intellectual footing and gives you a better understanding of physics than the greatest intellects and physicists of our age?
"...and gives you a better understanding of physics than the greatest intellects and physicists of our age?"
Your appeal to authority fallacy is easy for anyone to see. It seems that you are unaware that the supposed greatest intellect of your religious high priests could be wrong.
'Matter creates itself'. Ha, ha! Even little children know that somebody put the presents under the Christmas tree.
@psychedellic420 Well if you know anything that Hawking has theorized, he explains that the "energy level" of the universe is 0 because of negative energy, by the way if you are a theist and believe that everything follows cause and effect who created god?
DangerMickey 1 month ago
Its rather pitiful that clowns like Hawkings are labeled as "scientists"
There is nothing scientific about that misinformed statement from robot-voice boy.
evoTARDSareINSANE 3 months ago
IT'S OVER THEISTS ARE FINISHED
myne4 6 months ago
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@myne4 I hope you are right.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
Find the love of God here.
Audio, Gospel of John Chapter 1 AV h t t p://w w wDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=Ao4uaIjd3xs
BereanBeacon1 6 months ago
Was his fun? Not really ....
Pilooogen 7 months ago
It's all over, friends. The curtains are closing on religion.
ClamCrunchy 7 months ago
@ClamCrunchy I hope that it were so, but the world is headed to a one world religion with one of your people to lead it, called the anti christ. Don't take the mark or worship the beast, even though he will be an evolutionist.
To avoid this horrible time coming, you need the free gift of God which can be found here.
Gospel of John Chapter 1 AV
h t t p://w w wDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=Ao4uaIjd3xs
BereanBeacon1 7 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 There's no God. There's nothing left. It's all over.
ClamCrunchy 7 months ago
Cause and Effect is only relevant to humans but in a more vast way, it isn't. I Believe that Hawking is correct.
OSWNOSWNOSWN 11 months ago
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Try Hawking's stance in the real world:
Judge: Mr Atheist, you've seen the evidence. What say you?
Atheist: Sir, Hawking says that matter creates itself. That evidence created itself, so just ignore the evidence.
Defense lawyer: Your honor, we change to the insanity defense.
Judge: Wise move, counselor.
Matter can't create itself. Atheism = fail.
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
@InternetDisciple Stop strawmanning science you fucking idiot. No one says to ignore the evidence, THIS IS WHAT THE EVIDENCE TELLS US! It's pretty easy to misunderstand the evidence WHEN YOU IGNORE IT.
InternetDisciple's debating skills = fail.
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
@YourBrainOnReligion
"Stop strawmanning science you ... idiot."
You're wrong again. I'm not strawmaning.
More, 'matter somehow creating itself' is not science. It is a very entertaining fairy tale.
Well, I'm getting a lot of laughs out of it. :)
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
All people like Hawking give us is just their own Godless, metaphysical proposition which they deceitfully propagate under the guise of objectivity & science. The "God of the gaps" accusation is just a straw man; people have rational, logical reasons for pointing to God to explain phenomena which atheists refuse to accept. For most atheists, there's no rational/logical basis for belief in God so no reason to see things from the perspectives of those who believe otherwise.
ChristianMission 1 year ago
@ChristianMission Yeah the big bang theory is totally metaphysical... *facepalm*
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
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It has been conclusively demonstrated in independent experiments at Cal Tech and M.I.T. that the number of "LOL"s (or haha's, which is basically the same thing) contained in a comment on a video pertaining to scientific Theories is always inversely proportional to the persons intelligence and meaningful understanding of said Theory.
SounzNice 1 year ago
What is this video??????????? The link goes to the creation "research" library...?
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
From where do atheists think that everything came?
I know that many atheists say that it cannot be known from where everything came, but that doesn't mean that it cannot be known that something must have brought everything into existence.
Atheists don't have to remain blindly ignorant.
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
@InternetDisciple hahahahahahaha you are still around? Ok I'll work on that video today. I honestly thought you disappeared and figured why bother. But since you still insist on spreading your fallacious argument, I'm demolishing it once and for all.
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
@YourBrainOnReligion Earlier in the day I filled these plastic trays with water and then put them in the freezer.. a short while later I took it out and it was filled with.. fucking Ice! Explain that smart guy, you think that fucking ice just created itself?
SofaKingLoaded 1 year ago
@YourBrainOnReligion
I'm still around.
I'll be waiting on that video where you defend Hawking's stance on matter somehow being able to create itself. I need another good laugh.
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
@InternetDisciple The only laughing involved will be at your own expense. I love how you honestly think you know more than Stephen Hawking. You're one arrogant piece of shit.
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
@YourBrainOnReligion
"The only laughing involved will be at your own expense."
Ha, ha! I am not the one that believes that matter can somehow create itself. Still waiting on those laughs, Brent.
"I love how you honestly think you know more than Stephen Hawking."
Spoken like a true blind follower of Hawking. Just because Hawking checks his brain at the door, that doesn't mean that I'm going to.
I'll stick with real science and leave the fairy tales to Hawking.
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
@InternetDisciple "I am not the one that believes that matter can somehow create itself. " Stop strawmanning me you fucking retard. Matter has always existed and you know that is mine AND science's position.
"I'll stick with real science and leave the fairy tales to Hawking."
Did you honestly just infer that Stephen Hawking isn't "real science" ??? You truly are 100% braindead. Stephen Hawking is the epitome of a scientist you knuckle dragging buffoon. I have truly developed hate for you.
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago 2
@YourBrainOnReligion
"Stop stawmanning me you..."
I take it that you didn't understand from my post that I was referring to Hawking.
"Matter has always existed..."
Ha, ha! Please explain again why you feel that anyone should believe in your stopped time theory. I love to laugh.
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
@InternetDisciple No, you're referring to science in general. Science in general understands matter has always existed; whether or not it is in the form of only quarks and bosons in a pre-matter state, it is still considered by physics to be matter. You're playing semantics games because you know how retarded you are.
"explain again why you feel that anyone should believe in your stopped time theory." Because some crazy guy named EINSTEIN proved it in his theory of SPECIAL RELATIVITY. Idiot.
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
@YourBrainOnReligion
"Did you honestly just infer that Stephen Hawking isn't "real science" ?"
Wait a minute.
In your last post, did you not just distance yourself from Hawking's unscientific belief of self-creating matter?
You can't have it both ways, Brent. Either you agree with Hawking's unscientific fairy tale or you don't.
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
I just explained that. "Matter has always existed" is simplifying the same fucking principle you braindead moron. What else are we supposed to call, essentially, "loose" quarks and bosons which exist in a pre-matter state? I guess they could call it pre-matter, but why do we need the distinction? Anyone talking about matter in the singularity (should) understand precisely what they're talking about. For lack of a better word, "matter HAS always existed" and hawking would certainly agree.
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
@YourBrainOnReligion
""Matter has always existed" is simplifying the same ... principle you..."
So it seems that you are trying to have it both ways. Hawking said that he believes that matter can create itself - and you seem to be agreeing with him; either that, or you are trying to twist his words. Myself, I think that he believes that matter can somehow create itself because he said that matter can somehow create itself.
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YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
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Hawking's saying matter *IN ITS CURRENT STATE* was self-assembled (or "created", if u insist) from quarks, bosons and other particles. However, these particles that matter was "created" from were NOT previously non-existent as your poor argument insists.
Think for a sec: If you "create" a wooden chair, did you just make it magically appear from thin air, or did you use existing materials to build it? It's the same principle. No one is saying chairs or molecules magically appear (besides you).
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
@YourBrainOnReligion
"...essentially, "loose" quarks and bosons which exist in a pre-matter state?"
And then -poof- supposed "pre-matter" became matter? Your fairy tale is very entertaining. Myself, I stick with real science: matter can't create itself.
Perhaps you could entertain me some more with your 'stopped time' fairy tale.
Go check your driveways everyone and see if a corvette somehow created itself there! Ha, ha!
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
@InternetDisciple Yes, -poof- pre-matter self-assembled into matter. We're not sure why or how but that certainly doesn't give rational reason to resort to the tired ass "god of the gaps" crap. What does that teach us? Nothing. It's a recessive answer. Thankfully, people many generations before us understood this, otherwise we'd still be in the dark ages.
"Your fairy tale is very entertaining. Myself, I stick with real science: matter can't create itself." Your projection is disgusting.
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
@YourBrainOnReligion
"Yes, -poof- pre-matter self assembled into matter."
Right under the Christmas tree, right? Ha, ha! Sounds very "god of the gaps".
"Thankfully, people many generations before us understood this,"
Ha, ha! No, even little children understand that somebody put those presents under the tree.
'No, little children," explained the atheist, "Nobody put those there. Pre-matter just became matter under that tree.'
You are so funny, Brent!
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
@InternetDisciple Nothing you said rebutted anything I've presented. Do you not see how childish you're acting? Amazing jake.
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
@YourBrainOnReligion
"Nothing you said rebutted anything I've presented."
'Oh, no! Brent said that nothing I've said has rebutted anything that he's posted. Does that mean that nothing I've said has rebutted anything he's posted? No? He could be wrong about that? Well, he most likely wrong again then.'
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
@InternetDisciple "Perhaps you could entertain me some more with your 'stopped time' fairy tale."
What aspect of time being a property of matter do you not understand? I enjoy discussing the topic as it's a challenging topic to even think about. I've tried to explain to you that spacetime is something Einstein figured out when figuring out the Theory of Special Relativity. I've even shown you the exact formulas in the past, so I'm not sure why you keep pretending to be ignorant of it.
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
@YourBrainOnReligion
"I've tried to explain to you that spacetime is something Einstein figured out..."
Explain why you feel that people should believe in 'stopped time'. (I've asked you this before on this thread, but for some reason, you ignored it.)
Come on! I love to laugh.
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
@InternetDisciple I just did. Einstein proved it to be so with his mathematical theories. You know, mathematics, where they actually PROVE things CONCLUSIVELY. So I will tell you just like I told you last time, if you can show me an error in Einstein's equations for the theory of special relativity, I'm all ears jakiepoo. But since you can't even read the damn equation, I know your only available option is to act like a spoiled brat who just got told they couldn't have any candy. Grow up.
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
@YourBrainOnReligion
"I just did."
I see. Instead of posting any evidence for your claim, you just declare that you posted your supposed evidence.
"...mathematics, where they actually PROVE things..."
I didn't see where you posted any math that, as you say, prove your claims.
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
@YourBrainOnReligion Ol' Jake's Tensor Calculus ain't what it used to be..
SofaKingLoaded 1 year ago
@SofaKingLoaded
"Ol' Jake's Tensor Calculus ain't what it used to be.."
Ha, ha! That seems very much like: 'Please believe that matter can somehow create itself because I say that Jake's calculus isn't what it used to be.'
Again: 'No, little children,' says Mr Atheist, 'nobody put those presents under the Christmas tree. They just created themselves there.' Even little children understand correctly that somebody put those presents there.
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
@InternetDisciple More like "Jake has no fucking idea what Tensor Calculus even IS.."
A clinical psychologist would have a field day with you.
SofaKingLoaded 1 year ago
@SofaKingLoaded
Ha, ha! The same old song:
'I say that Jake has no idea what Tensor Calculus is and, I say, that a clinical psychologist would have a field day with him; therefore, please believe that matter can somehow create itself.'
Keep 'em coming, Sofa. Even little children understand correctly that somebody put those presents under the Christmas tree.
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
@InternetDisciple How do you think I knew that you were jakedevon ID? Your idiotic, repetitive blathering has a retard signature you can see from Space..
SofaKingLoaded 1 year ago
@SofaKingLoaded
I suspect that the reason that you are using so many personal attacks is because that's all that you have for your 'matter can somehow create itself' fairy tale.
'I say that Jake is an idiotic, repetitive retard and, therefore, please believe that matter can somehow create itself.'
Again: 'No, little children,' said Mr Atheist, 'nobody put those presents under the Christmas tree. The presents just created themselves there.'
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
rofl
FillTheirVoid 1 year ago
I would love to know how he can prove this, the usual hocus pocus garbage, evolution and the big bang are a religion make no mistake about it and those of us who dont believe are obviously to stupid to realise they have got it all figured out.
infamos 1 year ago
Pfffffffft.. Steven Hawking.. what a retard..
SofaKingLoaded 1 year ago
@SofaKingLoaded hahahahahahahhahahahahah I've been laughing since all this came out... but have you seen this clip? It's just pure epic pwnage:
watch?v=YJ60bBMesFo
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
@YourBrainOnReligion Dude is InternetDisciple(lol) actually jakedevon? He parrots that immature, shallow draft bullshit in almost the same manner..
SofaKingLoaded 1 year ago
@SofaKingLoaded
Let me get this straight...
You are supporting Hawking's fairy tale of matter that somehow creates itself?
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
@SofaKingLoaded Yep, it's jakedevon, who is apparently BereanBeacon's son since he won't deny that.
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago
@YourBrainOnReligion Hehe.. yeah that would explain a lot.. "Hawking's fairy tale of matter.." Dude this shit is better than South Park..
Ain't it a hoot how faith alone puts you on superior intellectual footing and gives you a better understanding of physics than the greatest intellects and physicists of our age?
I gotta get me some of that..
SofaKingLoaded 1 year ago
@SofaKingLoaded
"...and gives you a better understanding of physics than the greatest intellects and physicists of our age?"
Your appeal to authority fallacy is easy for anyone to see. It seems that you are unaware that the supposed greatest intellect of your religious high priests could be wrong.
'Matter creates itself'. Ha, ha! Even little children know that somebody put the presents under the Christmas tree.
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
@YourBrainOnReligion
"...who is apparently BereanBeacon's son since he won't deny that."
Ha, ha! Your total lack of logic is apparent.
Is that the level of evidence that you would accept for what people claim is science, too?
'Well, that guy didn't deny that this piece of evidence somehow created itself, so it must have created itself.'
Perhaps, Brent, I just don't care to have the debate be about me. But nice red herring.
InternetDisciple 1 year ago
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@InternetDisciple You're too stupid to even humor anymore.
YourBrainOnReligion 1 year ago 6
Facepalm
SounzNice 1 year ago
lol
sarevor 1 year ago