Howard Johnson Motor

[DudleyaSetchellii]

All I see here is a plastic Lazy Susan with weird metal sticking out the right side with you pushing it along. Freak is this?

[sudoldas]

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[yascumbag]

no blazing saddles' quote for this one lads!

[michalchik]

It's not Howard Johnson, unless it has the range roof.

[victorvodka]

no such thing as a free lunch, bro! think about it -- if overunity were achievable, some bacteria would have evolved to use it as an energy source, wiping out all others in the process. such a bacteria could live anywhere, including on pluto.

[flowerbower]

Here's an idea: instead of making a comment, which will have no effect on these fools and conmen, simply flag this vid (and every similar one) as a scam.

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[michalchik]

For every genius that shatters scientific preconceptions there are 10,000 cranks and frauds that waste their time and everyone else's. . Magnets create conservative vector fields as the one side gets pulled towards the magnet the other is pushed away, as the first side tries to escape the magnet the other is pulled back. The energy of the path integral is zero. Make a video when you have this hooked to a generator running a light bulb.

[nerdagedon2012]

@michalchik Look up "spin ice" if you think that magnetic monopoles are a COMPLETE IMPOSSIBILITY (they're not).

[michalchik]

@nerdagedon2012 Its not whether it is a monopole or a dipole it is that it is conservative. Electrical fields are generated by monopoles but they are conservative too.

On an unrelated subject spin Ices are not true monopoles. They simulate a monopole like behaviour inside a media. Though they can move around like true monopoles they can never be uncoupled and always have to have a solid spin ice bridge between them.

[bored1980]

Another free energy motor that almost works but doesn't?

[riccallelectrics]

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[DontCloudMe]

If the magnets have enough power to accelerate a motor, there would be no end to the acceleration. It would just continue to accelerate until the device started falling apart and throwing magnets all over your house, probably imbedding a few of them inside of your body.

But they don't, the pulling force & pushing force cancel each other out in every instance.

[SDSMJ]

This same idea occurred to me in 2001 when at University, I built a ring of magnets on a bicycle rim and another in a supporting track, to float the rim in mid air using magnetic forces. This let the rim spin with only air friction. I then attempted to set the magnetic forces at angles and pit them against gravity, but to no avail. At every turn, the forces balanced out, and the only energy I could get out was from energy put in. The wheel would spin for hours, with momentum.

[ShahinGenerator]

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[gr8mikeY]

A magnet does zero net work. Thats a fact! Whatever attactive force a magnet exerts will require an equal amount of force to pull the object away from the magnet. Since there are always mechanical and electrical losses involved with any machine, The idea that you can get free energy from such a device requires quite a bit of magical thinking. There will be interstellar drives for spaceships in a couple hundred years, but there will still be no free energy machine. What a waste of time!

[nicksobx]

is that all it does that sucks



[Rynoryan77]

Have tried using dead batteries to block the repelling force at the first magnet? (James Roney idea)

[rufdawg100]

try the pentagon arrangement with with 5 points exact and being exposed with no magnet

[YouTooArchives]

Look up:

James Roney Stators Magnetic Shielding Holy Grail

____________________________

Quote from: James Roney Stators

"Electromagnetic generators which are NOT to be confused with perpetual motion, as magnets wear out and need to be replaced or re-energized. Understand that there is NO energy in the magnet, only the power of magnetism itself from setting the magnet into motion to produce electricity."

[transfusablepng]

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[JonDeth]

I think the failure of capturing fixed magnet energy is due to the units being a mechanism. I believe using permanent magnets to generate a field of constant flux is the true key to unlocking self replenishing energy.

The mechanisms are bound by physics while the governing system of quantum physics applies to these generative fields thus eliminating a lot of the dead ends we encounter with the mechanisms.

[ve2zzz]

WHY... Jusy WHY are you posting videos of machines that DON'T work ?????

[LiamXaoh]

@ve2zzz - because they are the only sort that can be made.

Perpetual motion machines are a dead end.

[jotacril]

Laws of perpetual mouvement machines :

1- they don't need inicial impulse to start running.

2- once running they don't stop unless brake is aplied.

3- they work without electric wires/motors attached.

4- and finaly... they don't work, whatever you do.

If any of these rules is violated, is a fake machine.

[lofye]

Recent replications of the Steorn Orbo device seem to indicate that if you can replace the U magnet with a toroidal magnet wrapped in a coil AND if you connect it to a Hall Probe, you can have the Hall Probe electrify the coil, which cancels out the magnetism of the toroid... So, if you could cancel it out just before it arrives at the next segment of magnets, it should glide into place without resistance, at which time you can turn off the electricity and let the magnet work again.

[localbroadcast]

as the magnet comes around to the beginning of the loop, you could put something that temporarily moves the magnet away, and then back into the field once it has passed the starting point of the track.. kind of like a cam shaft in a car.

[gandelff]

im just a simple electrican trying to help

[gandelff]

but dajlrj i think the magnets will over come the small capactor charge that will be required to recharge the capactor ..and thru timing you could start the charging of the capactor when the rotor has momentum then thru a geared motor discharge the capactor to overcome the magnets stoping rotation at the starting point again ...i think it wouldnt take that much with the new motors and capactors avalible now i think the charge would be more than enough to keep it going

[gandelff]

well not realy cheating ..just storing the energy thats being waisted and using it at the right time ..i dont know if this will work but i think its worth a shot ?

[gandelff]

there is a simple ansure to this ....magnets are going around ...so put a coil at some point around the out side to colect the energy as the magnetic flux cuts thru the coil ..use that energy and store it in a capactor put a cam and switch on the main shaft to discharge the energy strait into a motor to pass the magnetic threshold ...its just a thought ?

and as the energy has come from the device in the first place ...

[dajlrj]

as long u collect the electrical charge from the flux cutting coils as it goes around, lenz law will come into play and an opposing magnetic force will be introduced, esentialy slowing the rotor to a standstill. i still watching every post with fingers crossed waiting for the answer. keep trying hey, we will get there

[jacoscience1]

Old way of making laws: exparament.

New way: Check old laws and see.

[GoldieTalon]

3 stages of progress in new findings

1) ridiculed / dismissed

2) Angrily (and violently) opposed

3) considered a self evident fact.

Science should never be used as a noun..science is a tool used to uncover the many, many layers of reality...each layer holds a truth, but not a full picture

Newton was right

Newton was disproved by Einstein

Einstein was right

Einstein has just been disproved.

the many layers of reality, each layer having its own truths and laws

[Eltimple]

Great post.. Shame people accept laws too easily. They should always be challenged. Even if that subjects us to ridicule

[GoldieTalon]

"Even if that subjects us to ridicule "

I would say changing the word Even to the word Especially

Ridicule is a tool of suppression. it is a function to stop progressing something out of fear of change. Ridicule is and always will be a tool used by ignorants to keep the status quo by use of peer pressure tactics.

Mental terrorism and the people whom belittle those whom think differently are the true degenerates of society...the most disgusting aspects of humanity.

[Dziaji]

"Science should never be used as a noun..science is a tool" LOL was that meant to be a joke? Also how has einstein been disproved?

Anyway, it's impossible to get energy out of a device like this. No matter how you configure the magnets, it will always stop before completeing a full rotation if started from rest.

[GoldieTalon]

no, not even remotely. I believe in science (religion), rather...I use science to define my beliefs..that works.

science as a noun only becomes a claim of religion, same as exercise...its a action word, not a person, place, thing, or idea.

Einstein proven wrong? google radio waves faster than light

then read the core tenents of relativity.

then engage your brain.

I dont doubt the mag engine doesnt work, but to dismiss it before trial is religion.

[Dziaji]

Well if you weren't joking then you don't know what a noun is... (i figured that out by engaging my brain)

So, as an analogy, if somone had a theory that dropping a tennis ball from 10 feet up would cause a 50 ft crater in the ground, and I was to say that its not true without testing it, then I am religious?

Some things are just too ridiculous and obvious to waste time testing them. It's time to put the "permanent magnetic motor theory" to rest.

[Karlemids]

@GoldieTalon Einstein? , do you mean that man that took all the credit for creating the E = mc2 equation - without giving ANY credit to the man that actually first formulated it?

[smilodon1]

@GoldieTalon Newton wasn't disproved by Einstein. They were working in totally different regions of matter/energy. Newtonian mechanics is still as valid today as they were when first outlined by Newton. Similarly, Einstein's theories haven't been disproved but modified.

[787brx8]

@GoldieTalon Einstein came up with the theory of relatives...which is marrying your cousin! :)

[fmfalcao]

@GoldieTalon

Einstien was also proved correct recently

[MAGNETGRUNT]

Keep at it man!!! Just remember not to overdo it and get all bummed out. Meanwhile we will take care of Desertphile, the desert dwelling anti-social sociopathic shill who has been appointed by satan to undo our work and our souls.

[flashguru1970]

Desertphile works for the GOVERMENT !!!

and will infiltrate us and our works...

BLOCK THIS USER

[zaagmans1]

Believe me, a magnetic motor will NEVER work.

[arachnipope]

As I, and others, have said before, stop and really figure out why it doesn't work and you will see why it cannot ever work. One big thing to learn is that the effect of the magnets decrease as the square of the distance. A mag strong enought to turn the rotor is always working just as hard to stop it. The progressive positioning does not change this fact; it just turns farther before stopping.

[arachnipope]

You cannot "tweek this or that' to sidestep the laws of physics. Before discounting the scientific reasons for saying it can't be done, try understanding them first. Before ridiculing scientist, ask first why NONE of these "motors" ever work. It's basic physics, not because of "the wrong layout" or any need for refinement, "gates", or "better magnets". Study what IS known before declaring the unknown to exist.

[sobman]

Thats right. The laws of physics. Which says evolution couldn't have taken place, blah blah. Also, it's a fact right, the laws have never been rewritten?

[ozzirt]

Where do they say that?

Liar liar, pants on fire.

[sobman]

2nd law? Something can't come from nothing?

[GoldieTalon]

I love the crowds of tubeheads when it comes to fringe science.

you got someone making a video saying...hey, I am doing this odd experiment...here is whats happened so far.

then you got 2 types of people in comments

one is the support...hey, cool..perhaps try tweaking this or that and then see what happens

then the other type that simly flip right out, going religious zealot saying it cant be done, omg, stop, hax, cheat!

and curiously enough, the second group pretends to be the scientist

[ozzirt]

Because they are backed by people like Einstein, not some YouTube loser. who has no idea of the most basic laws of energy.

[GoldieTalon]

Einstein has been proven wrong :-)

Backed by modern day pop science is not a achievement...

Science isnt about simply solidifying current understandings, its purpose is to smash down current understandings to gain a even greater truth.

Science is not a religion, religoscience morons believe it to be, but a proper scientist always questions "laws"...its their job.

I see your laws and raise you string theory and white holes, gravatons, tachyons, and quantum entanglment.

point, set, match

[ozzirt]

Einstein may have been proven wrong, but his theory of Relativity has not, and that is what we are talking about here.

No use trying to obfuscate the matter with unrelated info.

I think that you will find the poster has predicted the correct outcome for his finished "motor"

[GoldieTalon]

Theory of relativity in a nutshell:

impossible to travel matter, energy, or information faster than the speed of light

result: debunked as of june,29-09 when scientists had packets of information ride on a radio wave faster than the speed of light.

google: Radio Waves Travel Faster Than Light

There goes that religion, oh well.

Always challenge what "they" say or be left behind...science is about challenging "laws", not religiously defending them

[VirgilFoxMusic]

"I dare say that as soon as you complete the ring the bloody thing won't move anywhere".

CORRECT!!! At least you're open that inevitability.

Of course, Mylow realized there was still money to be made - just tell them your stuff was seized by the government and they'll hail you as the new king! Then start selling plans.

[vrvandjjk]

What are your magnetpole configurations?I belived statorpoles +++++ rotor poles +- .

So ++ puls off. and + - attracks on the same time.

[Eltimple]

a horse shoe magnet or bar magnet in crossfield running against a row or circle of same poles

[strongmeasures]

If someone would just listen to me we could all have a non magical working model within a week. This is not rocket science. This is mechanics.

[earthga]

with all do recpect, are you an idiot? you made like 1000s of videos of models wich are NOT working at all! and for 90% of them even lindsay lohan can tell, this will never work. ...my advice to you! with only permanent magnets in use, it is possible to built only a 'first stage' of perpetual motion. it means that such a device can not give you extra energy. it will just stay in perpetual motion, witch is really a toy. think about it, and good luck :D

[Dziaji]

No device like this can even stay in perpetual motion. The initial energy put in will slightly diminish over time through friction with the center bearing (released as heat), and friction with the air (released as wind currents).

[strongmeasures]

Etimple,

What if you used electro-magnets to make up the ring and then channeled the electricity generated by the wheel passing by the electro-magnets to a motor that kicked in when the wheel reached the gap at the end of the ring and propel it over the gap? Think it would generate enough ?

[Eltimple]

I am a sceptic just like you DP, but theres no harm in listerning. I built this because i had everything to hand asi look into these claims a lot.. I never went beyond this poor replication because in my own mind it would not work and secondly i was not prepared to buy a load of crappy alinco magnets. I believe the answer will be with us this year , just not with Mylow.

[Desertphile]

"I built this because i had everything to hand asi look into these claims a lot."

Certainly it "doesn't hurt" to do so. My bafflement involves the people who still believe it worked even after the person who made the original videos explained it was a fake, and ran on compressed air. How is it possible for some to still believe it? I have no idea.

[Desertphile]

"....but perhaps the secret is in bending the track?"

No, idiot, it is not. The secret is COMPRESSED AIR. And you nuts fell for it, which makes me laugh.

[theoneagain]

you need the stone henge setup for it to work !!!

[alexdese]

you are doin' it wrong :)...

remember that he has "groups" 3-4 magnets .. (U shape.. different stats)..

[r123062b]

Alexdese, How do you know its wrong. Did you ever witnessed the real thing worked? If Mylow cannot validate his claims for me that still not working. Even Howard Johnson cannot replicated his machines successfully otherwise we been enundated with it by now!

[alexdese]

i was tryin' to make a point .. that maybe because of the arrangements .. there would be a catch in it...

[strongmeasures]

I think this configuration is more suitable for success than the other one you mentioned. I think the magnets should be static and the rotor should be as light as possible and as super sensitive as a compass.

[strongmeasures]

You are so close to figuring it out, imo, it's almost painful to watch your videos...lol...You say, "As soon as you complete the ring the bloody thing won't move anywhere.." That's because ALL THE MAGNETS ARE THE SAME VALUE AND THEIR STRENGTHS ARE CANCELING EACH OTHERS OUT. Each magnet should be stronger than all the magnets that precede it. I'm all theory but I gather if you set it up this way you should have no problem with the wheel smoothly reaching the end of the cycle if not more.

[AdminOnDuty]

But then it'd be trapped at the end in the strongest one. Mylow and HJ used the same value throughout but selected the spacing and geometry to allow field flexibilty that results in continuous motion. Of course HJ believed he was tapping QMME.

[strongmeasures]

But I'm suggesting that the built up momentum will propel the wheel past even the strongest magnet at the end. If momentum wasn't a factor, the wheel wouldn't spin even in the video above because the push and pull of the magnets would cancel each other out. By your logic, the wheel shouldn't be spinning in the above video but it is. I say it's because of momentum.

[r123062b]

Mates, The momentum will never ever overcome the sticking point in any magnet arrangement and propel it perpetually. You may succeed in the first rev but the 2nd and next will slow it down because thats what conservation of energy in action. The motion we witnessed here is no magic, N repelling N that's why before it complete one cycle repulsion kicks in.

[strongmeasures]

How do you know? Have you tried it? I have never seen anyone ever try the ascending magnet values configuration.

If you know a link to one please post it.

[strongmeasures]

r123062b, We can say th@ the 1rst magnet in any ring of magnets has a sticking point. If ur claim is correct & momentum can nver overcome a sticking point in a magnetic arrangement , how is the sticking point of the 1rst magnet overcome? All th@ is needed is more force @ the end of the cycle. If th@comes in the form of momentum or using the movement 2 trip a switch tht releases sum mech. motion @ the end of the cycle th@ moves the last magnet out of the way, I don't see this as impossible.

[Desertphile]

"Mylow and HJ used the same value throughout but selected the spacing and geometry to allow field flexibilty that results in continuous motion."

No, shit-for-brains: "MyLow" used compressed air. Now don't you feel silly? I'm laughing at you.

[AdminOnDuty]

What's the matter Desertpile, have you run out of children to bully and decided to return to me for punishment? Perhaps you have a masochistic vein that feels the need to be pummeled for such bullish behavior. I assure you, your punishment will not come to you from these pages. No, it is scheduled to occur from a much more powerful source with final results. The brothers Rice should pay heed and learn to love their neighbors as themselves while there is yet time to do so. Not a laughing matter.

[Desertphile]

"What's the matter Desertpile, have you run out of children to bully and decided to...."

Instead of just trying to insult me, answer the question: why did you morons believe this fake device was possible when it showed magic happening? Why do some of you retards *STILL* insist it isn't a fake when the creator told you it is?

[AdminOnDuty]

Poor Desertpile, still using kindergarden terms like moron and retard to elevate himself in his own mind. Has the art of sarcasm been lost on you? Why did they go out into the wilderness... to see a flaxen wick? No, to see the greatest man born of woman and yet this John is even less than the lowest of all those in heaven. And you, you for your part are ignorant of fine works of my Father and you seek to close the doors of opportunity that are before all mankind. You need more knowledge.

[Desertphile]

"Poor Desertpile, still using kindergarden terms like moron and retard to eleva...."

Instead of just trying to insult me, answer the question: why did you morons believe this fake device was possible when it showed magic happening? Why do some of you retards *STILL* insist it isn't a fake when the creator told you it is?

[AdminOnDuty]

"...answer the question..."

Are you yet after so many hours still unable to distinquish between the truth and sarcasm? Have you become a believer in the sarcasm of of a single post as if it were truth and yet willing to discard the years of honests works? Perhaps Jose is gone and his final posts and emails are the products of an imposter...how will you prove otherwise? Are you still believing everything you read and see? Even if I gave you the truth, you would ignore it. You have been answered.

[Desertphile]

"Are you yet after so many hours still unable to distinquish between the truth and...."

But I would very much like to know the answer. How is it possible people can believe in magic, even after the prank was revealed to be a prank by the prankster?

[AdminOnDuty]

Arthur C. Clarke: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

Belief is rooted in knowledge. One of the greatest accomplishments of a human is when they realize for themselves how little they know. This accomplishment is a key that unlocks unfathomable opportunitity, because it beckons the road less travelled. The better question is why do you believe Maxwells equations are conclusive when they are incomplete. There are many unanswered questions surrounding ...

[AdminOnDuty]

... magnetism and research is being done in these areas at many major universities. UCSD for example has an entire bulding dedicated to magnetic research. But you are too close minded to realize what the rest have learned. Which of Jose's words do you put more faith in? Those accumulated over many months or an isolated single comment from an imposter? Or perhaps a confession made under duress? A discerning person will realize that Mylow's words revealed nothing, and beleivers understand that.

[Desertphile]

"Arthur C. Clarke: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistin....."

How is it possible people can believe in magic, even after the prank was revealed to be a prank by the prankster?

[AdminOnDuty]

@ Desertphile,

How is it possible that you cannot discern the the obvious even after it has been explained to you so clearly? Can you see the similarity between your repeated question and the small child that asks "Why?" even after being given the truthful and satisfying answer? Must I break down into a simple parable for you? Tomorrow at sundown marks the annual remembrance of the most important day for mankind. Surely, this should be your foremost question as to what it is and why.

[Desertphile]

"How is it possible that you cannot discern the the obvious even after it has been...."

Why don't you answer the question? Ask yourself why my question upsets you so much that you refuse to answer it.

[AdminOnDuty]

Desertpile asks: "Why don't you answer the question?" I find your blindness to the obvious humorous just as when a dog chases it's own tail thinking it to be something else. You have already been answered, more than once. You are mistaken as to what was admitted to and what wasn't. However, your question does not end with just one comment, but it runs deeper into the psyche of the believer. The believer believes because he has more knowledge and understanding than the unbeliever. Do you believe?

[Desertphile]

"obvious humorous just as when a dog chases it's own tail thinking it to be"

So, you refuse to answer the question, out of fear I assume. Doesn't your fear tell you something?

[Dziaji]

You know what is more humorous than a dog chasing it's own tail? A human chasing the phantom idea of a permanent magnet perpetual motion machine. But seriously, this avenue is a dead end. The only real free energy comes in the form of devices that harvest energy from the earths kinetic energy, and from space energy that constantly bombards earth.

[Islesfan4eva]

@strongmeasures How do you vary the field strengths of the individual magnets?  If one magnet was stronger than the next eventually it will stop the device, plus which is the strongest magnet and which is the weakest. The only way I can conceive of fluctuating magnetic strength is by a fluctuating magnetic field polarity. This is accomplished by applying various currents to an electromagnet. IE This is an Existing Device called a squirrel cage motor. It runs on electricity.

[Eltimple]

What are you if you don´t have a dream?

[r123062b]

Mate the Mylow video now fuels OU dreamers of replicating and trying to succeed in it. However Mylow him self hasn't validated it yet. We tried similar set up of HJ stonehedge design in 2005 but cannot make it work. The momentum is not enough to over come the sticking point no matter how you arrange the magnets.

[r123062b]

People, are you really serious believing that Mylow succeded on this? Its another dream that feeds gasoline into fire of these dreamers.

[reiyuki]

Try using horseshoe magnets?

[Eltimple]

Yes but only one pole of the u stator magnet is being acted apon by the stator, yes separation is an issue i agree

[KindaGamey]

i thought the U shaped magnets were the most important part of mylow's work? mylow found that the U shaped magnets were polarized N for one leg and S for the other. (he also said that repeating sets of 3s and one 4 worked. it failed when it was just 3s.).

[AdminOnDuty]

KindaGamey,

I imagine that the 4th was required to fill the space because he was fixed at that circumference that didn't match his spacing. He could probably move the magnets in to reduce the circumference and remove the 4th.

[Eltimple]

Who knows? I just love playing with magnets

[kasimodo72]

:-) ok

[kasimodo72]

Looks nice.

I wonder if it wouldn't be more effective to replicate Mylow's design, instead of wasting your time in *yet another* different approach.

It's like someone's potentially found the number 42 after aeons of time and everybody else is saying: "well, great, ok let's try with 43".

What about investigating number 42 for a while?

[Eltimple]

That is fair comment , but the magnets in use by Mylow are unavalibe even to him. This was the first suck it and see experiment, i have since built another rig using the same layout as Mylow. But with only Neos avaible to me i know what the outcome will be

[AdminOnDuty]

You may try some soft iron (maybe some ReBar or the like) to form a horseshoe magnet and magnetize it with some NIBs. Or even 3 pieces of Iron with a couple of nibs inbetween. Like a small horseshoe and two long legs, then a couple of NIBs to hold 'em together. ;-)

[rrrreticon]

haven't you caught on that April 1st is coming up quick? Mylow's motor is gonna be an "April Fools" + "don't be so gullible" joke. It's going to also turn out that Mylow put the website together himself. I sure hope I'm wrong!