The Marshall Protocol and Rife Machines for Lyme Disease

[Catherine8raw]

What do you advise I do to treat lymes developed 12 months later

[antares4141]

One thing I know assuming your the producer of this video, is if your not able to treat your own illness you shouldn't be promoting treatments for others. What do I recommend? I am not a dr so I hate promoting anything but I'll give an opinion based on 14 years of CFS under my belt. I believe it's an immune disorder and know from my own experience that mold exposure is one of possibly many triggers. So a new home with no history of water intrusion, not a cure, just a control I believe in.

[canefan17]

@antares4141

Hmm the guy with the "Syndrome" (aka group of symptoms with no known cause) is going to lecture us?

What causes the auto-immune disorder? Is it a disrupted immune system? maybe from a batceria? MAYBE from Lyme and co-infections? Maybe candida?

Much more than mold is involved in your CFS bud

[antares4141]

Please google quackcast, quackwatch, science-based medicine blog, wiki. They are to quacks, charlatans, hucksters and frauds what sunlight is to vampires. What they do and don't support is or isn't supported by the evidence my hypothesis with mold reactivity being one. Science is tentative and their views will change when presented with the evidence. I hope one day we will have the evidence. Doubt this will ever happen with the Marshall plan and KNOW it won't with that idiotic rife machine.

[canefan17]

@antares4141

Go take your prescription pills.

Why are you youtubing rife to begin with?

[antares4141]

If I have a medical condition science can treat you bet your sweet ass I will take my prescription as would all the hucksters selling these magic horse sh@it cures for conditions science can't yet treat.

I suspect I was youtubing cfs not rife, sadly you just can't do this without coming across hucksters trying to sell one type of phony modality or another.

[canefan17]

@antares4141

Boy you really hate your life don't you? haha

[antares4141]

Ouch! You got me. Psuedoscience & quackery wastes peoples resourses and even kills. My recomendation is to just see a regular "medical" dr, MD, "gp" and keep pounding into his head the condition is real, it's devestating, it's destroying us & we need serious reseach by lots of talented people like was done with aids, polio, etc. to solve the problem it's not going away and we know that no ego crazed gurruru like Marshal, or Shoemaker, or Ziem, or Reo, or any of the others are going to solve it.

[canefan17]

@antares4141

So let' see here antares (clearly at this point you're stirring the pot for your own entertainment - you can't possibly believe everything you type)

How would YOU approach Lyme Disease? Since conventional medicine is the only way.

Let's hear it. give me the Antares Lyme Protocol.

[antares4141]

I don't know weather post lymes syndrome is even real. I would recommend what I know works for me which is mold avoidance which isn't easy, new home with no water intrusion.

Just recently been experimenting with gluten free diet and avoiding foods like peanuts and milk until I can discern weather they do indeed provoke symptoms Unlike mold can't say definitively weather this will help me. Any thing I do learn and know to be true would never be sold I would go to support groups and give it away.

[canefan17]

@antares4141

Lymes?? (you don't even pronounce it right lol)

And wait a minute - you're avoiding gluten? avoiding milk?

These practices are QUACKERY!

How dare you!

Look brotha - I'm with you that we should all be cautious of listening to those who stand to profit off the sick.

But someone like a Bryan Rosner, Lee Cowden, or an LLMD who HAS Lyme and has been to he!! and back with this disease is someone I don't mind lending an ear to.

You wouldn't understand - It's a Lyme thang ; )

[antares4141]

Ya kinda hypocritical huh To my defense common sense should dictate if you are sensitized to mold you may be sensitized to food also and because a lot of my symptoms go into high gear (stomach bloat) after eating I think I made a big mistake ignoring this. Gluten intolerance is recognized by mainstream but only for those with celiac disease which is rare. I can't afford the test to confirm, even if it came back negative doesn't necessarily mean I am not sensitized one cheap way to find out

[canefan17]

@antares4141

Celiac is more common than you think.

I work at a health food store & the demand for gluten free products right now is at an all-time high.

btw the common sense that dictates your sensitivities is the same common sense Lymies use to realize LYME can be chronic-because we REMAIN SICK-with SAME symptoms. Good news is alternative media allows us to communicate w/ one another & help each other find great treatments. Just have to push through nay-sayers like yourself to find the truth

[antares4141]

At a gastroenterology site they said 9 out of ten suffers don't know they have it. Which was a red flag for me, being an MD doesn't exclude you from being a quack also. I'm not saying post lyme isn't real although every time you add another invisible disease to the roster the likelihood of it being so goes down. So I tend to believe that we have the same or similar  thing but don't know. Nay sayer as to most supplements & alternative medicine you bet! I like science based medicine flaws & all

[canefan17]

@antares4141

Post Lyme Syndrome is something mainstream medicine deemed it. They also deem THAT incurable.

Which is false.

Those with Lyme simply call it Chronic Lyme (since they've SCIENTIFICALLY proven cysts forms and cell-wall deficient forms of the bacterial strains exist) and understand that it can come out from hiding months or years after you think you've treated it.

"Medicine is a science of uncertainty and an art of probability."

William Osler

[LoriMiller1111]

Hi Bryan, I just ordered your book "When Antibiotics Fail: Lyme Disease and Rife Machines." yesterday. I didn't know there was a newer one. A friend bought a ProWave 101 Rife machine and her clients are having good results. But I don't see that you've recommended this one.

[antares4141]

The allure of a quack, they always promise results but never quite deliver. You can always blame yourself though, maybe you didn't buy the expensive vitamins, maybe You bought a knockoff of the rife machine and not the real thing, you ate wheat? Maybe you haven't stuck to the all raw food diet, Be sure not to eat sugar don't want any candida. It never ends what quacks are getting away with because there's a sucker born every minute and regulators only get trashed for trying to stop them.

[Catherine8raw]

@antares4141 what do you reccomend for 12 months lymes down the line? What have you tried, and what should I do? Thanks!  Best wishes Cath

[melikerns]

It is my opinion that you out to do nothing but make money from sick people. Stop adding your bogus information to others protocol.

[mindmagic711]

Bogus information? Hardly. I got news for you. What Bryan is talking about absolutely works. You need to get educated before criticizing something that you no very little about. Antibiotics (which I'm sure you are a cheerleader for) are failing dismally for Lyme. You think that the pharaceutical companies and the physicians are NOT making MONEY off of sick people? Sorry... but there are people who will benefit from this protocol and there is another side to the story. Thanks for sharing Bryan!

[thane17]

Thanks Bryan, you're great!

[divinicus1001]

how and where do you get one of these machines

[tigr7170]

For those who want to look up Col. Joe (Francis J. Hart's) U.S.

Patent on the "Hart Dietary Procedure Plan" you can go to the USPTO GOV site and

look up U.S. Patent number 6133317 for patents issued, as the application number is

08629538. I've had far better results and observations in health improvements on a high oxalic acid diet, than using Rife techniques and equipment for 4 years - I still use frequency work/devices p.r.n. Hart's book - ISBN#0-9726457-0-5

[tigr7170]

For those who want to look up Col. Joe (Francis J. Hart's) U.S.

Patent on the "Hart Dietary Procedure Plan" you can go to the USPTO GOV site and

look up U.S. Patent number 6133317 for patents issued, as the application number is

08629538. I've had far better results and observations in health improvements on a high oxalic acid diet, than using Rife techniques and equipment for 4 years - I still use frequency work/devices p.r.n. Hart's book - ISBN#0-9726457-0-5