Invisible Hydogen Flame!!!

[lyrison]

@TylerReifenberger5 Bipolar???

[lola93671]

@lyrison Nitrogen is actually inert cos it does not react easily unless its forced to, if you don't believe me check Wikipedia or some other legit website

[lyrison]

@lola93671 First: Wikipedia is not a "legit" website. And second: No gas will react unless it's forced to.

[lola93671]

@lyrison hydrogen, fluorine, chlorine react easily

[lyrison]

@lola93671 But they still have to be forced into reactions, even if it is as simple as introducing another substance.

[Tyraeous]

@lyrison - Pedantic much?

[lyrison]

@Tyraeous I'm EXTREMELY pedantic, just ask my friends. I know, for all intents and purposes, nitrogen is inert in external combustion, but it is NOT an inert gas.

[TylerReifenberger5]

@lyrison Nitrogen IS inert when it comes to combustion. It just does not burn and in the cryoganics world when you store it do not store it is an inclosed building because it will displace the oxygen in that building and you will die if not removed from that area.

[tangledmess]

@MrJosch25 Nitrogen is highly non-reactive. For most intents and purposes (this purpose specifically) it's inert, it doesn't react with anything.

[whiterican74]

ethanol As I have come to find can produce this same affect invisible to the naked eye yet still be burning. I was messing around with spirits one might say to find this out.

[kdkinen]

wow crazy

[MrDANstudios]

i have an idea for a submarine that could run on hydrogen while still providing oxygen

[DevilMaster]

@MrDANstudios If that idea involves using a battery to electrolyze sea water and use the hydrogen to recharge the battery, it would not work as you would get less energy from the hydrogen you obtained than you spend with the battery.

[jonasrobles]

its easy yust press in side the bottle not to hard so the gas will go in the bottle the yust press it

[kadeemknight]

what temperature does this occur at and how did you produce the hydrogen and oxygen by electrolysis?

[tangledmess]

I don't know the flame temperature, but the auto-ignition temp of hydrogen is 550C. Of course the fuel actually burns much hotter than that. I think it was burning lower than normal because inert gasses, mostly nitrogen, were present. Some heat produced by the burning fuel is absorbed by inert gasses, mostly nitrogen.

[mikeyburger1]

hydrogens flame temperature at 20 celsius in a stoichiometric pure process with air at a maximum temperature of around 2,213 degrease celsius... however that value is adiabatic (no loss or gain of heat)

[quuaa1]

@tangledmess Also hydrogen can be set off by the slightest spark, flame, static electricity, or even sunlight.

[FearTurtles]

Hydrogen burns at a low temp Something like 350-375 deg F. Heat from the flame does not radiate like with other gasses. When the flame come into contact with other materials it reacts so as to creat the needed heat to burn.

[justinaurelius]

so an internal combustion engine running on Hydrogen wouldn't get as hot and would probably start better when cold?

[FearTurtles]

That is what they claim. I have not done any test and don't know of any to refer too. My comment above is just the properties of an open flame.

[justinaurelius]

Yeah. That would beat the hell out of this fuel cell shit they keep going on about.

I'm betting similar power could be achieved with a 4.0L Hydrogen engine as opposed to a 4.0L gasoline. Something like that would be good for sports cars. We won't see a fuel cell powered Corvette in our lifetimes.

[bloodynikka1]

@justinaurelius hell yeah!

[tangledmess]

@justinaurelius Yep

[mikeyburger1]

hydrogen burns at around 3635 degrease F in air.

[bloodynikka1]

@mikeyburger1 hey thanks for that little note I needed this to find out if i could use it to do some welding or not . Even if it wasn't in tended for me still tanks.

[tangledmess]

@FearTurtles This is why I can hold the bottle

[tangledmess]

@kadeemknight I don't know how hot it is. Yep, electrolysis.

[cooltv4]

cool now imagine an invisible flame thrower

[DylanAndersen]

that would be badass

[imirocks1999]

very very interesting.

[GOJAPANFOREVER]

that hot

[techattack]

WOW!