Yes!!! Ian takes an influence &runs with it!! Outdoing&Pushing the limit!!! Elvis Costello feel to this one,awesome & Super Ian Style showing anything is his
@annamarieintex I emember reading from Ian's old myspace notes many years back that he felt that Elvis Costello was the embodiment of perfection as a singer/songwriter/performer.This song is a great testament to that sentiment..one of Ian's most inspired to date in my humble opinion. I am in Atlanta and haven't seen him live since the 2007 "To Be Loved" period. Suppose I will have to drive a ways to catch up next time he gets out on the road as he rarely comes near Georgia(Capricorn) anymore.
That man has a Ferrari engine he now sadly keeps hidden underneath the trendy hood of his Prius for his current "indie" aduience. Still like him though.
@notapuppet his music has changed back when he was first compared to SRV. -It changed even more after he got married...his wife encourages him to be more positive.
@annamarieintex It's sad because he was not a SRV clone..I loved his first 2 albums the best..I like the stuff after..but not as much as the first 2 albums..he apparently likes the path he has taken but lets face it, he would have more money and popularity if he had stuck with the earlier path..
@fistchips Ian is going to do what he wants...it's his life after all. he's happy, so we should be happy for him. he changes his music every two years...who knows...he could gravitate back to the blues. He plays songs from his first two CD's at every concert: Blue Eyes, Satisfied, and Muddy Jesus...so, he still tries to give the old skool fans what they want in addition to playing his current stuff. -one acoustic concert he played songs from nearly every CD...it was pure heaven, to me!
@annamarieintex like i said, HE apparently likes the path he has taken..and gravitating back to the blues?? Ian told me personally that even though he likes the blues, he was never a "traditional" blues artist..his first 2 albums are definately not "blues" per say..they were "Texas Rock"..and I'm glad he's happy with his career..I'ts sad that he's playing in front of 60 to 200 people now instead of 1200 to 3000 people back in the early 90's..
Like the song alot. Nice combination of Ian's new style, his old guitar ripping, and something new. Ian keep on doing what makes you happy bro. Been a fan for 14 years.
Funny how everyone thinks that changing one's style is a bad thing. Then there are people like Nickelback who's songs sound the same over and over and over... It gets real old after awhile. Not sure WHERE you people have seen Ian but obviously not around TX or OK. The last 2 times I've seen him in Tulsa, there wasn't a seat to be had. I'd say the REAL core fans appreciate ANYTHING Ian puts out. Just some insight by a fan that Ian KNOWS by name....
@maskedrider1009 Ian is cool and tries to remember the name of any fan that comes to his concerts on a regular basis and appreciates his music. -Nickelback is pure crap. But I agree....true fans love anything Ian puts out...the man is just brilliant! nice to see someone else that agrees...I get tired of the old fans that only want to hear the songs from his 1st album...but Ian appreciates all of his fans...he's a great guy!!!
@maskedrider1009 i agree completely....plus,many of the newer vids i'm seeing posted show ian tearing it up on guitar alot more than recent years....so why all the fuss from these people?
@barrycasebeer: sooooo glad some one else that gets Ian!!!! I kind of get tired of peeps saying they want the style from his first CD back...when he never left it..his style still carries through....but he has grown a lot..he's an artist..that's what artists do! :-)
I saw Ian in St Louis a little over a year ago after having been away for many years. I as an old fan was in the minority. All I can say is that he got a standing ovation for 2 songs...Satisfied, and Muddy Jesus. The response to the rest of the material was slightly more than golf claps. The new fans can tell the difference in quality too even if they don't want to admitt it. I got a chance to talk shop with Ian after the show. It was I guess the 5th time I've met him. Still a really nice guy!
@bexdad: glad you made it to one of Ian's shows. yes, Ian is a very nice guy! very down to earth and always spends time talking and listening to his fans. I don't think the quality has changed...Ian makes it look easy, because he's super talented and highly intelligent. but glad that you love his music and appreciate him even if you don't like his new stuff. -and I know Ian appreciates all of his fans whether they like his new stuff or not..he's a good guy. :-)
@bexdad I was at that show, too. That's definitely not how I remember it.
But really (and this isn't directed at you, bex)...doesn't this "old vs new" argument seem pretty stupid at this point? All the elements are there in the music for the taking, even if dude isn't doing high kicks during the guitar solos.
Furthermore, I don't really think the new stuff is anything wildly experimental or trailblazing. Great songs, though. And sure, "Muddy Jeez" remains a showstopper.
@poppyallgood Pretty sure we're talking about a different concert then because the people I went with remember it that way too. Maybe it was the lean crowd 25 or so people that I wasn't used to. Back in the "old" days, it was pretty much a packed house on their feet the whole show..and the old vs new argument isn't stupid...on the contrary, it is inevitable. If BB King stopped playing blues in favor of industrial pop some would compare it to the old...and many would leave him behind, as with Ian
@bexdad Sorry. My post was meant more generally to folks still clinging to a small batch of songs Ian wrote when he was a kid. I maintain that was years ago. Been listening to people make these same tired complaints for well over a decade. It'd be fine if people who no longer enjoy him did "leave him behind," but instead they bitch that Ian/whoever isn't a cardboard cutout who paints-by-numbers for a living. There's old material and plenty of BB to entertain you. I'll take inspired creativity.
@bexdad Actually, I'm glad you mentioned those songs. Personally, I find Johnny Cash to EASILY be the most rewarding of the ones you mentioned. For one, it doesn't simply adhere to form, but more importantly, I interpret it as a thoughtful analogy at the cult of personality problem Ian clearly still faces (fan expectations). Ian sympathizes with Johnny b/c people show up expecting him to play dancing bear. And no, if Ian sold out, I'd lose interest. It's not about pandering to audience. It's art
@poppyallgood Well stated...so well in fact that I'm pretty sure there's more art in your response than there is in the song. As for him "selling out" by playing the well crafted melodies and articulate guitar work from that handfull of songs, well... if playing blues, soul and progressive rock is selling out I'd like to know how. I play it and I'm not seeing any of the money if it's there. It would actually be easier for me to play college angst music, but pretiousness is not art in my book.
@bexdad I'll take the bait, but know this is all in good fun. Re: "selling out," I mean playing music one isn't interested in playing merely to appease a larger audience. Haven't heard of the "college angst" genre, but I'll check it out fo sho. Truthfully, we aren't debating the same thing any longer. You're stating a preference for certain genres of music, whereas I'm simply saying an artist strives to create things that interest and engage them. We no longer make cave paintings for a reason.
@bexdad Also, I'd be willing to bet that Vince Gogh, Orson Welles, and Johnny Lennon were all pretentious-ass muthas. Or maybe it was just their college angst.
@poppyallgood AH, three of my faves. Okay let's focus on Lennon. I'm sure there or 20 or 30 people left who think Final Fantasy or Plastic Ono Band were the real artistic statements when compared to that handfull of songs he wrote with the Beatles. They're entitled to think that, but history suggests otherwise. So, I suppose we'll have to continue this discussion in about 30 years and see which of Ian's work endures and which whinds up being the "cave paintings". I'm confident I know though.
@bexdad Man, if anyone gives a flip about 80's/90's blues-rock in 30 years, I'll eat my own ass. Skip James was Goliath. Hendrix was a paradigm. The imitators bore me. To paraphrase Mr. Moore, anyone who thinks getting to the guitar solo is the point of the song is missing the point. Now here, I must point out that I often like the solo sans-song, but that's boutique music of another nature. Meanwhile, those cats who play weedly-weedly guitar like it's an extension of their cocks? No thanks.
@poppyallgood Well lets see...just at a glance, Ian's handfull pointless guitar solo songs have between 10 and 36 thousand hits while the dissonant 5 chord "art" songs have between 2 and 15 hundred. So since the evidence is going against you and has for quite a while, we won't hold you to that "eat your own ass" promise. As for the trash talk about guitarists...Could sombody tell what the hell is wrong with being good at something? Should Santana be the only allowed to play guitar?
@bexdad it is obvious you took music theory and know your stuff. you're an eloquent writer. I enjoyed your comments! you're a thinker....no wonder you love Ian almost as much as I do! xo :-)
@poppyallgood Did Ian write any of those tunes? Are any of them "Solo sans songs?" that have anything to do with this discussion. Is this comment really relevant?
@poppyallgood It's your tactic. Logic is logic. Rain is just as wet in Texas as it is in California. Apparently, popularity determines the value of art for you. I still don't think you understand my point, that it's silly to sit around whining about what YOU want an artist to be. Make your own derivative music. Listen to the first album. Tell Dylan he should have stayed acoustic. Tell film to stay B&W. Tell the internet dial-up was the shit. Tell wind-up toys they're better than writers.
@poppyallgood You're mistaken. It was your tactic. "If anyone gives a flip about 80s and 90s blues"...Well, the 80s were 20 years ago and practically everyone is hitting the guitar improv. vids and not the "art rock". Using the Backstreet Boys as a frame of reference is laughable. It's comparing apples to seaweed. As for "my dirivitive of music", your earlier posts suggest a decidedly narrow understanding of music. Hate to break it to you...but Jimi and Skip were imitating people too.
@bexdad Getting nasty are we? There's so many misinterpretations of my post in your last one I can't even address them all here. You mentioned having this discussion "in about 30 years". I responded accordingly. You also implied that a song with many hits on youtube is a better song than one with few. Popularity has absolutely nothing to do with quality...to me. To you, I guess, it does. Question my limited understanding of music if you like. Coming from you, it only validates my taste. Cheers.
@poppyallgood Didn't think it was nasty...but apologies if you saw it that way. No...popularity has nothing to do with quality. I only mentioned the number of hits point after you said John Lennon's name and saw a parallel to the "earlier career" discussion. Thats all it was.
@bexdad And u aren't breaking anything to anyone. Really? Hendrix played blues-derived music? Wow, never heard or felt that or read it in 100 books. Thx for cluing me in. The fact is, plenty of blues purists in his day heard his work in the Experience and beyond and had a "you can't do that" reaction to it--similar to your would-be direction of Ian. Dude, I don't like "new" or "old" Ian *that* much. I just like the creative process. I remember the STL show differently than you. This is stupid.
@poppyallgood Well that's not strictly what I meant. Jimi was using diverse elements from his era...blues was one of them but he also was influenced by the endless sonic possibilities of newly discovered guitar effects. He was also influenced by Cream and the Who who used large amplified guitar signals to effect the sound. No doubt you are correct though. Of the 60s players Jimi was the most influencial by far and remains so
@bexdad ...My point is, why shouldn't he? Pat wrote the songs and played the solos (just like Ian did) People enjoyed them. Was that their fault? Why not still give those fans something too. His new music is fantastic but of course people aren't as aware of it as the early stuff (although I am)...he is knows that and is okay with pleasing his old friends as well as the new, also the ones who have been here all along. My best wishes to Ian. If we didn't respect him, we wouldn't be discussing this
@bexdad I get what you're saying. I think we just want different things out of music performance. I prefer seeing where the show can take me as opposed to knowing where it's going to go. I'm not of the opinion that fans have a "say so" in the creative process, but that may put me in the minority. Also, seems like he still plays solos in almost every song, they're just more efficient than epic. I'm guessing Pat hasn't been called "the next SRV" ten thousand times. It's cool he's diplomatic, tho.
@bexdad I hate to say it...but Jimi was also so high most of the time. he died from choking on his own vomit. He could had given more to the music world had he lived long enough. Same with Jim from the Doors. Lennon to me was the most influential.
@bexdad A note to future readers of this unfortunate exchange of (f)lame (my first, btw). There IS NO "new" and "old" Ian. I knew about him in the "old" days because he's a soulful performer who rocks when he plays live. He's become a more self-conscience artist as evidenced by his dropping of the cheesy crowd-pleasing aspects of things and a renewed focus on writing. His shows are still wonderful, his records, better than ever. Apologies for my limited understanding. I only get paid for it.
@poppyallgood Here in St Lou there's a really great artist of Ian's calibur named Pat Liston. He made a big name for himself with his R&B Blues Rock and Soul band called Mama's Pride (also used to play guitar and sing with Greg Allman). Now his music has grown and evolved into a Folk Acoustic sometimes Celtic style. But, once or twice a year, he still puts on that slide guitar and pulls out those songs he wrote and gives those fans what they want...
@poppyallgood and @bexdad Yoko is actually a very sweet and deep lady. I love her. I can see why John loved her. And I think it is lame that peeps still blame her for the Beatles breakup after all these years. She didn't break up the Beatles...the Beatles broke up the Beatles...they wanted to do solo projects and experiment with other things and felt the band and image was holding them back...John broke free.
@bexdad I agree. Also, the college angst, pop, etc. are all very simple and boring. The chords are very boring. They consistently go to a 1-5 safe place. Ian plays very complex chord progressions and makes it sound and look easy; when in fact it's very complicated. The fact that serious guitar players (professors that are from California, etc. that I have learned under) know who Ian Moore is....screams of Ian's talent! His songs are so deep. He is a thinker. I love that about Ian. :-)
@poppyallgood Most of them have.....but I would hardly call songs like You'll be Gone, Please God, Morning Song and Society anything but inspired and creative. Jump straight from that to Johnny Cash's Electric Bible and it's bound to put people off. So, how about if the shoe was on the other foot...What if he did a 180 and went back...dumped the past decade and said so long to his present fans and started playing in his earlier style. Would they be any more open minded or receptive? I doubt it.
I can't believe what a waste of talent Ian is. He was on top of the world at one point in his career. I don't understand this bubble gum sound he is trying to create. If he is looking for the low rent indie garage high school sound, he has got it down. I'm hoping whatever it was that he banged his head on about 12 years ago or so resurfaces and he bangs it again. Go back to what your good at Ian!! This sounds like forced production, it's horrible, I guess that explains the 32 people watchin
you don't get Ian, cuz you are simple minded. Ian is doing different things each time he makes a record...like the Beatles. Go to college..then you will understand Ian. I love that man...don't put him down just cuz you don't understand him and want him to stay stuck doing the same thing...he is an ARTIST...320 have seen this vid not 32! go to school and grow up
This is a tough debate, because obviously no artist wants to be stuck in a box. But, Ian seems to make a real effort to give the finger to his old fans, by churning out stuff like this, so quickly after Modern Day Folklore. IMO, it does seem like wasted talent. This is yuppie college trash. And Anna, before you go suggesting 320 views is some sort of monument, appreciate that each of his pre 1999 videos have 10,000+ views. All his new vids don't even break the 1000 mark, unless it's Satisfied.
@Rootwitch06....Ian is going back to some of his Blues basics....he is working on a new CD that should be out some time this year...there are some songs that have different styles...he has been influenced recently by Neutral Milk Motel and a lot of 60's music. But Ian ALWAYS plays songs from his first CD's that he found success from. Ian never gives fans the finger..he gives the finger to those that have profitted off of him, which are the record labels! Ian is Ian. I love the man!
I saw him in Nov in Houston, and he played about 5 songs that (for me) made the show worth it, but his other material just doesn't do it for me. Relative to "giving the finger", I think it's in the liner notes for And All The Colors that he talks about some gig in which he successfully drove all the blues hounds out of the bar... Those were his fans he drove out... Speaking of that CD - It was a BIG departure from his first 2, but still an AWESOME CD. His other stuff though... not so much.
@Rootwitch06...well, Ian was at a difficult place when making And all the Colors. his original band split up & Record peeps wanted him to see their "doctors" cuz they didn't approve of his song writing & style change. Ian has been through a lot..& back during his blues days his mom had died!! He's now married w/ two kids..he has his own family & in a better place & actually happy. I will always be Ian's fan. I love the man!!!!
@maskedrider1009....happy to make the vid's of Ian's concerts to spread his music to make new fans..and for those that are long-time followers and can't make it to his concerts! Tulsa rocks! glad you got to see him! I will have to tread up to Tulas some time. The vibe is different at each location... :-)
believe me annamarieintex, I get him, he isn't quite as shallow as you (intellectually speaking) as he at one point in his career displayed his amazing abilities with his voice and his guitar skills. He has "dumbed down" tremendously over the years, could be the weed affecting his faculty as it obviously has done the same with yours. You and your lesbian girlfriend should get off the couch and discover some real tallent, I would suggest you start off with Joe Bonamassa and proceed from there.
Dumbed down?? Are you serious? It doesnt get more generic than blues rock, which I do happen to like some...But theres a ZILLION guys out there that Joe Bonamassa sounds like....Lance Lopez, Johnnie Lang, Kenny Wayne, etc etc, basically all doing the same thing.
@Tafkal1 thank you! I'm very happy to make the Ian vid's....just wish my camera was charged, so that I could had recorded a couple more songs! Happy Holidays to you, too. Cheers "Uncle Lar"! :-)
Now that was awesome! Can't wait till the new CD's out. It's great to see Ian playing with the full band. The acoustic shows are way cool, but there is something definately magical when Ian goes electric. By the way, where was this shot at?
@stratocatbluez: I shot this at Lola's Saloon in Fort Worth, TX on Wed, 11/11/09. Yeah, Ian and Matt (the bassist) feed off of each other and have a ton of fun and bring that to the performance and makes it a ton of fun! -Ian ended up busting the 1st string on this guitar while rocking out...this would had affected the average guitar player...not Ian...he didn't miss it or need it to sound as awesome as he always does! thank u!
Yes!!! Ian takes an influence &runs with it!! Outdoing&Pushing the limit!!! Elvis Costello feel to this one,awesome & Super Ian Style showing anything is his
Boldlynuts9 5 months ago
@Boldlynuts9 thank you for the comment. I agree, very Elvis Costello. :-) btw, nice youtube choice for a name, "boldlynuts" hahaha ;p
annamarieintex 5 months ago
@annamarieintex I emember reading from Ian's old myspace notes many years back that he felt that Elvis Costello was the embodiment of perfection as a singer/songwriter/performer.This song is a great testament to that sentiment..one of Ian's most inspired to date in my humble opinion. I am in Atlanta and haven't seen him live since the 2007 "To Be Loved" period. Suppose I will have to drive a ways to catch up next time he gets out on the road as he rarely comes near Georgia(Capricorn) anymore.
itskarma12 1 month ago
That man has a Ferrari engine he now sadly keeps hidden underneath the trendy hood of his Prius for his current "indie" aduience. Still like him though.
notapuppet 1 year ago
@notapuppet his music has changed back when he was first compared to SRV. -It changed even more after he got married...his wife encourages him to be more positive.
annamarieintex 1 year ago
@annamarieintex It's sad because he was not a SRV clone..I loved his first 2 albums the best..I like the stuff after..but not as much as the first 2 albums..he apparently likes the path he has taken but lets face it, he would have more money and popularity if he had stuck with the earlier path..
fistchips 1 year ago
@fistchips Ian is going to do what he wants...it's his life after all. he's happy, so we should be happy for him. he changes his music every two years...who knows...he could gravitate back to the blues. He plays songs from his first two CD's at every concert: Blue Eyes, Satisfied, and Muddy Jesus...so, he still tries to give the old skool fans what they want in addition to playing his current stuff. -one acoustic concert he played songs from nearly every CD...it was pure heaven, to me!
annamarieintex 1 year ago
@annamarieintex like i said, HE apparently likes the path he has taken..and gravitating back to the blues?? Ian told me personally that even though he likes the blues, he was never a "traditional" blues artist..his first 2 albums are definately not "blues" per say..they were "Texas Rock"..and I'm glad he's happy with his career..I'ts sad that he's playing in front of 60 to 200 people now instead of 1200 to 3000 people back in the early 90's..
fistchips 1 year ago
haha he's wearing the same exact outfit he wore at Jake's. Can't wait for the new cd, btw that show rocked my face off. Ian is the man!
ghurricane87 1 year ago
Like the song alot. Nice combination of Ian's new style, his old guitar ripping, and something new. Ian keep on doing what makes you happy bro. Been a fan for 14 years.
dtrentl 1 year ago
Funny how everyone thinks that changing one's style is a bad thing. Then there are people like Nickelback who's songs sound the same over and over and over... It gets real old after awhile. Not sure WHERE you people have seen Ian but obviously not around TX or OK. The last 2 times I've seen him in Tulsa, there wasn't a seat to be had. I'd say the REAL core fans appreciate ANYTHING Ian puts out. Just some insight by a fan that Ian KNOWS by name....
maskedrider1009 1 year ago 5
@maskedrider1009 Ian is cool and tries to remember the name of any fan that comes to his concerts on a regular basis and appreciates his music. -Nickelback is pure crap. But I agree....true fans love anything Ian puts out...the man is just brilliant! nice to see someone else that agrees...I get tired of the old fans that only want to hear the songs from his 1st album...but Ian appreciates all of his fans...he's a great guy!!!
annamarieintex 1 year ago
@maskedrider1009 i agree completely....plus,many of the newer vids i'm seeing posted show ian tearing it up on guitar alot more than recent years....so why all the fuss from these people?
bwlynn73 1 year ago
I love this tune, such a great vocal melody over those chords. His writing continues to grow and change, very good to see!!
barrycasebeer 2 years ago
@barrycasebeer: sooooo glad some one else that gets Ian!!!! I kind of get tired of peeps saying they want the style from his first CD back...when he never left it..his style still carries through....but he has grown a lot..he's an artist..that's what artists do! :-)
annamarieintex 2 years ago
I saw Ian in St Louis a little over a year ago after having been away for many years. I as an old fan was in the minority. All I can say is that he got a standing ovation for 2 songs...Satisfied, and Muddy Jesus. The response to the rest of the material was slightly more than golf claps. The new fans can tell the difference in quality too even if they don't want to admitt it. I got a chance to talk shop with Ian after the show. It was I guess the 5th time I've met him. Still a really nice guy!
bexdad 2 years ago
@bexdad: glad you made it to one of Ian's shows. yes, Ian is a very nice guy! very down to earth and always spends time talking and listening to his fans. I don't think the quality has changed...Ian makes it look easy, because he's super talented and highly intelligent. but glad that you love his music and appreciate him even if you don't like his new stuff. -and I know Ian appreciates all of his fans whether they like his new stuff or not..he's a good guy. :-)
annamarieintex 2 years ago
@bexdad I was at that show, too. That's definitely not how I remember it.
But really (and this isn't directed at you, bex)...doesn't this "old vs new" argument seem pretty stupid at this point? All the elements are there in the music for the taking, even if dude isn't doing high kicks during the guitar solos.
Furthermore, I don't really think the new stuff is anything wildly experimental or trailblazing. Great songs, though. And sure, "Muddy Jeez" remains a showstopper.
poppyallgood 1 year ago
@poppyallgood Pretty sure we're talking about a different concert then because the people I went with remember it that way too. Maybe it was the lean crowd 25 or so people that I wasn't used to. Back in the "old" days, it was pretty much a packed house on their feet the whole show..and the old vs new argument isn't stupid...on the contrary, it is inevitable. If BB King stopped playing blues in favor of industrial pop some would compare it to the old...and many would leave him behind, as with Ian
bexdad 1 year ago
@bexdad Sorry. My post was meant more generally to folks still clinging to a small batch of songs Ian wrote when he was a kid. I maintain that was years ago. Been listening to people make these same tired complaints for well over a decade. It'd be fine if people who no longer enjoy him did "leave him behind," but instead they bitch that Ian/whoever isn't a cardboard cutout who paints-by-numbers for a living. There's old material and plenty of BB to entertain you. I'll take inspired creativity.
poppyallgood 1 year ago
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bexdad 1 year ago
@bexdad Actually, I'm glad you mentioned those songs. Personally, I find Johnny Cash to EASILY be the most rewarding of the ones you mentioned. For one, it doesn't simply adhere to form, but more importantly, I interpret it as a thoughtful analogy at the cult of personality problem Ian clearly still faces (fan expectations). Ian sympathizes with Johnny b/c people show up expecting him to play dancing bear. And no, if Ian sold out, I'd lose interest. It's not about pandering to audience. It's art
poppyallgood 1 year ago
@poppyallgood Well stated...so well in fact that I'm pretty sure there's more art in your response than there is in the song. As for him "selling out" by playing the well crafted melodies and articulate guitar work from that handfull of songs, well... if playing blues, soul and progressive rock is selling out I'd like to know how. I play it and I'm not seeing any of the money if it's there. It would actually be easier for me to play college angst music, but pretiousness is not art in my book.
bexdad 1 year ago
@bexdad I'll take the bait, but know this is all in good fun. Re: "selling out," I mean playing music one isn't interested in playing merely to appease a larger audience. Haven't heard of the "college angst" genre, but I'll check it out fo sho. Truthfully, we aren't debating the same thing any longer. You're stating a preference for certain genres of music, whereas I'm simply saying an artist strives to create things that interest and engage them. We no longer make cave paintings for a reason.
poppyallgood 1 year ago
@bexdad Also, I'd be willing to bet that Vince Gogh, Orson Welles, and Johnny Lennon were all pretentious-ass muthas. Or maybe it was just their college angst.
poppyallgood 1 year ago
@poppyallgood AH, three of my faves. Okay let's focus on Lennon. I'm sure there or 20 or 30 people left who think Final Fantasy or Plastic Ono Band were the real artistic statements when compared to that handfull of songs he wrote with the Beatles. They're entitled to think that, but history suggests otherwise. So, I suppose we'll have to continue this discussion in about 30 years and see which of Ian's work endures and which whinds up being the "cave paintings". I'm confident I know though.
bexdad 1 year ago
@bexdad Man, if anyone gives a flip about 80's/90's blues-rock in 30 years, I'll eat my own ass. Skip James was Goliath. Hendrix was a paradigm. The imitators bore me. To paraphrase Mr. Moore, anyone who thinks getting to the guitar solo is the point of the song is missing the point. Now here, I must point out that I often like the solo sans-song, but that's boutique music of another nature. Meanwhile, those cats who play weedly-weedly guitar like it's an extension of their cocks? No thanks.
poppyallgood 1 year ago 3
@poppyallgood Well lets see...just at a glance, Ian's handfull pointless guitar solo songs have between 10 and 36 thousand hits while the dissonant 5 chord "art" songs have between 2 and 15 hundred. So since the evidence is going against you and has for quite a while, we won't hold you to that "eat your own ass" promise. As for the trash talk about guitarists...Could sombody tell what the hell is wrong with being good at something? Should Santana be the only allowed to play guitar?
bexdad 1 year ago
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bexdad 1 year ago
@bexdad it is obvious you took music theory and know your stuff. you're an eloquent writer. I enjoyed your comments! you're a thinker....no wonder you love Ian almost as much as I do! xo :-)
annamarieintex 1 year ago
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bexdad 1 year ago
@annamarieintex Thank you...you're very gracious. It's refreshing to discuss something on youtube without insulting each other.
bexdad 1 year ago
@bexdad Backstreet Boys - Everybody (Backstreet's Back)
Backstreet Boys - Everybody (Backstreet's Back)
by wangtao03 | 3 years ago | 12,128,501 views
Need I really add commentary to that?
poppyallgood 1 year ago
@poppyallgood Did Ian write any of those tunes? Are any of them "Solo sans songs?" that have anything to do with this discussion. Is this comment really relevant?
bexdad 1 year ago
@poppyallgood It's your tactic. Logic is logic. Rain is just as wet in Texas as it is in California. Apparently, popularity determines the value of art for you. I still don't think you understand my point, that it's silly to sit around whining about what YOU want an artist to be. Make your own derivative music. Listen to the first album. Tell Dylan he should have stayed acoustic. Tell film to stay B&W. Tell the internet dial-up was the shit. Tell wind-up toys they're better than writers.
poppyallgood 1 year ago
@poppyallgood You're mistaken. It was your tactic. "If anyone gives a flip about 80s and 90s blues"...Well, the 80s were 20 years ago and practically everyone is hitting the guitar improv. vids and not the "art rock". Using the Backstreet Boys as a frame of reference is laughable. It's comparing apples to seaweed. As for "my dirivitive of music", your earlier posts suggest a decidedly narrow understanding of music. Hate to break it to you...but Jimi and Skip were imitating people too.
bexdad 1 year ago
@bexdad Getting nasty are we? There's so many misinterpretations of my post in your last one I can't even address them all here. You mentioned having this discussion "in about 30 years". I responded accordingly. You also implied that a song with many hits on youtube is a better song than one with few. Popularity has absolutely nothing to do with quality...to me. To you, I guess, it does. Question my limited understanding of music if you like. Coming from you, it only validates my taste. Cheers.
poppyallgood 1 year ago
@poppyallgood Didn't think it was nasty...but apologies if you saw it that way. No...popularity has nothing to do with quality. I only mentioned the number of hits point after you said John Lennon's name and saw a parallel to the "earlier career" discussion. Thats all it was.
bexdad 1 year ago
@bexdad And u aren't breaking anything to anyone. Really? Hendrix played blues-derived music? Wow, never heard or felt that or read it in 100 books. Thx for cluing me in. The fact is, plenty of blues purists in his day heard his work in the Experience and beyond and had a "you can't do that" reaction to it--similar to your would-be direction of Ian. Dude, I don't like "new" or "old" Ian *that* much. I just like the creative process. I remember the STL show differently than you. This is stupid.
poppyallgood 1 year ago
@poppyallgood Well that's not strictly what I meant. Jimi was using diverse elements from his era...blues was one of them but he also was influenced by the endless sonic possibilities of newly discovered guitar effects. He was also influenced by Cream and the Who who used large amplified guitar signals to effect the sound. No doubt you are correct though. Of the 60s players Jimi was the most influencial by far and remains so
bexdad 1 year ago
@bexdad ...My point is, why shouldn't he? Pat wrote the songs and played the solos (just like Ian did) People enjoyed them. Was that their fault? Why not still give those fans something too. His new music is fantastic but of course people aren't as aware of it as the early stuff (although I am)...he is knows that and is okay with pleasing his old friends as well as the new, also the ones who have been here all along. My best wishes to Ian. If we didn't respect him, we wouldn't be discussing this
bexdad 1 year ago
@bexdad I get what you're saying. I think we just want different things out of music performance. I prefer seeing where the show can take me as opposed to knowing where it's going to go. I'm not of the opinion that fans have a "say so" in the creative process, but that may put me in the minority. Also, seems like he still plays solos in almost every song, they're just more efficient than epic. I'm guessing Pat hasn't been called "the next SRV" ten thousand times. It's cool he's diplomatic, tho.
poppyallgood 1 year ago
@bexdad I hate to say it...but Jimi was also so high most of the time. he died from choking on his own vomit. He could had given more to the music world had he lived long enough. Same with Jim from the Doors. Lennon to me was the most influential.
annamarieintex 1 year ago
@bexdad A note to future readers of this unfortunate exchange of (f)lame (my first, btw). There IS NO "new" and "old" Ian. I knew about him in the "old" days because he's a soulful performer who rocks when he plays live. He's become a more self-conscience artist as evidenced by his dropping of the cheesy crowd-pleasing aspects of things and a renewed focus on writing. His shows are still wonderful, his records, better than ever. Apologies for my limited understanding. I only get paid for it.
poppyallgood 1 year ago
@poppyallgood Here in St Lou there's a really great artist of Ian's calibur named Pat Liston. He made a big name for himself with his R&B Blues Rock and Soul band called Mama's Pride (also used to play guitar and sing with Greg Allman). Now his music has grown and evolved into a Folk Acoustic sometimes Celtic style. But, once or twice a year, he still puts on that slide guitar and pulls out those songs he wrote and gives those fans what they want...
bexdad 1 year ago
@bexdad Also, I never mentioned Yoko. The Beatles rule, dude.
poppyallgood 1 year ago
@poppyallgood LOL, my mistake finally we agree.
bexdad 1 year ago
@poppyallgood and @bexdad Yoko is actually a very sweet and deep lady. I love her. I can see why John loved her. And I think it is lame that peeps still blame her for the Beatles breakup after all these years. She didn't break up the Beatles...the Beatles broke up the Beatles...they wanted to do solo projects and experiment with other things and felt the band and image was holding them back...John broke free.
annamarieintex 1 year ago
@bexdad I agree. Also, the college angst, pop, etc. are all very simple and boring. The chords are very boring. They consistently go to a 1-5 safe place. Ian plays very complex chord progressions and makes it sound and look easy; when in fact it's very complicated. The fact that serious guitar players (professors that are from California, etc. that I have learned under) know who Ian Moore is....screams of Ian's talent! His songs are so deep. He is a thinker. I love that about Ian. :-)
annamarieintex 1 year ago
@poppyallgood Most of them have.....but I would hardly call songs like You'll be Gone, Please God, Morning Song and Society anything but inspired and creative. Jump straight from that to Johnny Cash's Electric Bible and it's bound to put people off. So, how about if the shoe was on the other foot...What if he did a 180 and went back...dumped the past decade and said so long to his present fans and started playing in his earlier style. Would they be any more open minded or receptive? I doubt it.
bexdad 1 year ago
I can't believe what a waste of talent Ian is. He was on top of the world at one point in his career. I don't understand this bubble gum sound he is trying to create. If he is looking for the low rent indie garage high school sound, he has got it down. I'm hoping whatever it was that he banged his head on about 12 years ago or so resurfaces and he bangs it again. Go back to what your good at Ian!! This sounds like forced production, it's horrible, I guess that explains the 32 people watchin
icurez123 2 years ago
you don't get Ian, cuz you are simple minded. Ian is doing different things each time he makes a record...like the Beatles. Go to college..then you will understand Ian. I love that man...don't put him down just cuz you don't understand him and want him to stay stuck doing the same thing...he is an ARTIST...320 have seen this vid not 32! go to school and grow up
annamarieintex 2 years ago
This is a tough debate, because obviously no artist wants to be stuck in a box. But, Ian seems to make a real effort to give the finger to his old fans, by churning out stuff like this, so quickly after Modern Day Folklore. IMO, it does seem like wasted talent. This is yuppie college trash. And Anna, before you go suggesting 320 views is some sort of monument, appreciate that each of his pre 1999 videos have 10,000+ views. All his new vids don't even break the 1000 mark, unless it's Satisfied.
Rootwitch06 2 years ago
@Rootwitch06....Ian is going back to some of his Blues basics....he is working on a new CD that should be out some time this year...there are some songs that have different styles...he has been influenced recently by Neutral Milk Motel and a lot of 60's music. But Ian ALWAYS plays songs from his first CD's that he found success from. Ian never gives fans the finger..he gives the finger to those that have profitted off of him, which are the record labels! Ian is Ian. I love the man!
annamarieintex 2 years ago
I saw him in Nov in Houston, and he played about 5 songs that (for me) made the show worth it, but his other material just doesn't do it for me. Relative to "giving the finger", I think it's in the liner notes for And All The Colors that he talks about some gig in which he successfully drove all the blues hounds out of the bar... Those were his fans he drove out... Speaking of that CD - It was a BIG departure from his first 2, but still an AWESOME CD. His other stuff though... not so much.
Rootwitch06 2 years ago
@Rootwitch06...well, Ian was at a difficult place when making And all the Colors. his original band split up & Record peeps wanted him to see their "doctors" cuz they didn't approve of his song writing & style change. Ian has been through a lot..& back during his blues days his mom had died!! He's now married w/ two kids..he has his own family & in a better place & actually happy. I will always be Ian's fan. I love the man!!!!
annamarieintex 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this! I saw him just a few days after this in Tulsa.
maskedrider1009 2 years ago
@maskedrider1009....happy to make the vid's of Ian's concerts to spread his music to make new fans..and for those that are long-time followers and can't make it to his concerts! Tulsa rocks! glad you got to see him! I will have to tread up to Tulas some time. The vibe is different at each location... :-)
annamarieintex 2 years ago
believe me annamarieintex, I get him, he isn't quite as shallow as you (intellectually speaking) as he at one point in his career displayed his amazing abilities with his voice and his guitar skills. He has "dumbed down" tremendously over the years, could be the weed affecting his faculty as it obviously has done the same with yours. You and your lesbian girlfriend should get off the couch and discover some real tallent, I would suggest you start off with Joe Bonamassa and proceed from there.
icurez123 2 years ago
@icurez123
Dumbed down?? Are you serious? It doesnt get more generic than blues rock, which I do happen to like some...But theres a ZILLION guys out there that Joe Bonamassa sounds like....Lance Lopez, Johnnie Lang, Kenny Wayne, etc etc, basically all doing the same thing.
basshead71 1 year ago
Thx Anna for the new Ian videos, your camera is awesome and wanted to wish you & your family Happy Upcoming Holidays! From Uncle Lar!!
Tafkal1 2 years ago
@Tafkal1 thank you! I'm very happy to make the Ian vid's....just wish my camera was charged, so that I could had recorded a couple more songs! Happy Holidays to you, too. Cheers "Uncle Lar"! :-)
annamarieintex 2 years ago
Now you pissed me off, just kidding, Thx!
Tafkal1 2 years ago
@Tafkal1...you are silly! glad to have a fellow Ian fan and someone with a sense of humor as a friend! :-)
annamarieintex 2 years ago
Now that was awesome! Can't wait till the new CD's out. It's great to see Ian playing with the full band. The acoustic shows are way cool, but there is something definately magical when Ian goes electric. By the way, where was this shot at?
stratocatblue 2 years ago
@stratocatbluez: I shot this at Lola's Saloon in Fort Worth, TX on Wed, 11/11/09. Yeah, Ian and Matt (the bassist) feed off of each other and have a ton of fun and bring that to the performance and makes it a ton of fun! -Ian ended up busting the 1st string on this guitar while rocking out...this would had affected the average guitar player...not Ian...he didn't miss it or need it to sound as awesome as he always does! thank u!
annamarieintex 2 years ago
@stratocatblue at a club in Fort Worth, TX
annamarieintex 1 year ago