"Antigravity" Method 3b of 15, Vacuum Polarization- (Biefeld Brown effect),Group IB(ii)

[zboy48]

umm just wondering this but are you using plastic as the insulator between the two electrodes?

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

Yes zboy48 plastic is the dielectric between the two electrodes.

[zboy48]

@JOHNROMANIWASZKO Thank you so much and may i ask what kind of plastic was it because i'm conducting an experiment of my own and i would like to know what to use if you could help it would be much appreciated.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

@zboy48 I used Polyvinyl chloride (PVC), the type of clear plastic that is used for clothing packaging etc and have also used PVC of the type used for battery heat shrinking. PVC has a high strength to weight ratio, is commonly available and has a good dielectric strength of 552 Volts/mil.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

@zboy48 But Polycarbonate aka Lexan® or Hyzod® due to its high dielectric strength of 840 Volts/mil, also has far higher temperature ratings and impact strength is probably the way to go, and is what I would use if I ever needed to repeat the experiments.

Good Luck with your experiments.

[zboy48]

@JOHNROMANIWASZKO Thank you so much for the help now i'm a little step closer to getting it done.

[zboy48]

@JOHNROMANIWASZKO Oh and one more thing how much voltage did you put into the saucer towards the end of the vid?

[144hatsoff]

would be interesting if u can make a magnetic monopole NSN or SNS cut in the neutral part, coated with an agent then surround with three moebius coils-- Shinichi Seike: G-Strain Amplifier. jlnaudin is working on it..

[onthecuttingedge2005]

in space, you have to force the electrons to become mean free particles by an additional electromagnetic field that doesn't allow the electron to re-attract to the ship.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

there are only two things that makes it work both on earth and in space, once the high voltage charge is discharged you will need an electromagnetic field strong enough to cause the electrons to be repelled into a mean free state 'away' from your spaceship. without the additional electromagnetic repulsion your space ship will be dead in the vacuum of space. same method they developed for CTR's and bending electron beams. I have just exposed the secret to this 'type' of technological propulsion.

[ronwire182]

great job on the demonstration

[spand3244]

I really want to put an gyroscope in the middle of the constructions and see if i could control the motions more stable

[1awareness]

johnromaniwaszko what book would help better understand how this works

[DenSucher]

Я не вижу своего коммента.. По русски что нельзя было рассказать?

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

Привет DenSucher,

Я говорю на нескольких языках, могу понять разговорный русский язык, но не прочитать или написать это очень хорошо, так пожалуйста извините мою попытку объяснить, в вашем родном языке.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

0-25VDC входное напряжение преобразовано к 0-50 000 Высокочастотных Переменных токов V через mosfet, который везут электропитанием трансформатора обратного хода генератора напряжения толчка, которое делает Cockcroft Walton множителем, который преобразовывает это в 0-300 000 VDC.

[DenSucher]

Не ну че по русски нельзя было рассказать? Сижу блин на половину туплю, не понимаю.

[prototype9000]

i read something about electrostatic gradients the same gradients on a small as a much larger one wil give thrust the smaller one is allways trying to seek electrostatic equilibrium with the larger terminal causing movement. according to townsend brown that ihad very little to do with polarization in a vaccume. i havent done any experiments myself to confirm it. not sure where to start for very little money as possible

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

@prototype9000 This is true for ion propulsion refer method 2, note that these are asymmetric capacitors and the lift is towards the smaller positive terminal, however the devices shown in method 3, show that thrust in towards the larger terminal. Thomas and Chris Fazi Bahder of the Army Research Lab (ARL) in Adelphi, MD. Also did experiments.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

@prototype9000 Their report in 2002 includes an attempt at an explanation of the cause of the force observed.

Abstract: When a high voltage (~30 kV) is applied to a capacitor whose electrodes have different physical dimensions, the capacitor experiences a net force toward the smaller electrode (Biefeld-Brown effect). We have verified this effect by building four capacitors of different shapes.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

@prototype9000 ..... At present, the physical basis for the Biefeld-Brown effect is not understood. The order of magnitude of the net force on the asymmetric capacitor is estimated assuming two different mechanisms of charge conduction between its electrodes: ballistic ionic wind and ionic drift. The calculations indicate that ionic wind is at least three orders of magnitude too small to explain the magnitude of the observed force on the capacitor.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

@prototype9000 The ionic drift transport assumption leads to the correct order of magnitude for the force, however, it is difficult to see how ionic drift enters into the theory. ....In the future, to understand this effect, a detailed theoretical model must be constructed that takes into account plasma effects: ionization of gas (or air) in the high electric field region, charge transport, and resulting dynamic forces on the electrodes.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

@prototype9000

In spite of all of this attention, there is still no clear consensus on how this force is produced.

This video was filmed in 1996 and at the time I believed that mechanism involved Polarizing energy into the vacuum ( zero point energy field ) via powerful electrostatic forces that are present at the threshold of dielectric breakdown.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

@prototype9000 NASA have officially admitted that these electrostatic antigravity devices are much more difficult to analyse rigorously. It is very difficult to isolate all spurious causes that might lead to a false positive, even when these devices are operated in a vacuum. Thanks for your comment JRI

[nfexp]

there is no such a thing that "vacuum polarization" nor black holes or other bullshit physics! If Its reality behind your device than its about electron cloud that its shielding out the gravitational field(which could be a quasi neutral electrostatic field)... The most effective electromagnetic shield its an electron cloud or a plasma around the object...

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

Hi nfexp, its great to know that I am corresponding with a greater genius than Oppenheimer and Schwinger who wrote a joint paper on Pair emission in the Proton Bombardment of Fluorine in 1939, where the explanation of the observed effect turned out to be the existence of Vacuum polarization. The experiment indicated that the vacuum is polarisable. This was in the early years of the development of quantum electrodynamics.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

By 1948 the term was in common use amongst physicists as it explained a host of previous difficulties.

Vacuum polarization is just a handy word to describe the phenomena in which electron-positron pairs are created, or a catchword to indicate that an electron positron combination is coupled to the electromagnetic field.

Further experiments, such as the Lamb shift, proved that it was a real phenomenon.

[nfexp]

stop playing with that laser !

[troubledyouth66]

i see youve read dino krasperdon

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

Sorry I dont think or do not recall reading any of his books but am interested in why you think that I have.

Thanks for your comment. Kind Regards John

[troubledyouth66]

hes the one who introduced the vacuum polarization method to the mass. It is being used in ufos. eg the centrifugal force of a planet and not a star being used or the use of magnetic attraction and not light repulsion. Apparently the 2 forces control the stars but not planets. The craft heats up on the rear to counter gyrations. Its being said in your video. Penetrating the electric aether of a planet is another story.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

What you say sounds interesting, and I am very interested in other peoples opinions, in particular where it relates to antigravity An internet search revealed that Dino Krasperdon wrote My Contact with UFOs I can guarantee that I have never read this book. Ive only read a few books on UFO up till the time I was a teenager.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

. They way I understand where the term vacuum polarization comes from is as follows. Oppenheimer and Schwinger wrote a joint paper on Pair emission in the Proton Bombardment of Fluorine in 1939, where the explanation of the observed effect turned out to be the existence of Vacuum polarization. The experiment indicated that the vacuum is polarisable. This was in the early years of the development of quantum electrodynamics.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

By 1948 the term was in common use amongst physicists as it explained a host of previous difficulties.

Vacuum polarization is just a handy word to describe the phenomena in which electron-positron pairs are created, or a catchword to indicate that an electron positron combination is coupled to the electromagnetic field.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

Further experiments, such as the Lamb shift, proved that it was a real phenomenon. Because of the virtual electron-positron pairs the vacuum behaves like a polarisable medium, which in my opinion suggests that we can interact with it.

Thanks for you comment.

[symphony1721]

you are one of the smartest men alive.

thank you my friend

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

symphony1721, thank you my friend for your kind words, but all credit should go to our predeceasing super heroes of science and technology, the main inspirations are Faraday, Edison, Tesla and Einstein, and for the work presented in this video was first inspired by Adam my brother who became interested in the work of Townsend Brown that inspired me.

[acidhed66]

Its too bad agencies like nasa dont want to tap in this research, they want to exploit the brainwashed mass with already current gas powered technologies such as the jet engine's capacity. The problem with improving an already existent technology is a waste of time energy and money. Why not create jobs instead of exhaustion? They are digging there own grave. The space age is what has been here all along. Do to ignorance the mass just feeds greed and fantasy to a small group of financiers.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

Thanks for your comment acidhed66. Nasa are definitely aware of these types of levitating devises as they have done their own test. Jonathan Campbell of NASA's Marshall Space Flight Centre has designed and tested acts that use dielectrics to increase their thrust, receiving U.S. patents for this work in 2001 and 2002. Thomas and Chris Fazi Bahder of the Army Research Lab (ARL) in Adelphi, MD. Also did experiments.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

Their report in 2002 includes a brief history and an attempt at an explanation of the cause of the force observed. However, they conclude that "At present, the physical basis for the Biefeld-Brown effect is not understood, and that calculations indicate that order of magnitude of the net force is at least three orders of a magnitude too small to be explained the magnitude of the force observed.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

Gravitec Inc at NASA's NSSTC LEEIF facility in Huntsville Alabama in 2003, own verification of experiments indicate that space vehicles could be made by using the direct conversion of electricity from either solar panels, thermo-electric or electro-nuclear generators into thrust, in the mean time they are working with proven and somewhat reliable rocket technology.

In spite of all of this attention, there is no clear consensus on how a force is produced.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

This video was filmed in 1996 and at the time I believed that mechanism involved Polarizing energy into the vacuum ( zero point energy field ) via powerful electrostatic forces that are present at the threshold of dielectric breakdown.

NASA have officially admitted that these electrostatic antigravity devices are much more difficult to analyse rigorously. It is very difficult to isolate all spurious causes that might lead to a false positive, even when these devices are operated in a vacuum.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

NASAs opinion is that regardless of the cause of the effect, there is the question of utility. So far, such devices can not lift much mass. None have been able to Levitate their power supply, let alone an additional payload. This limits their utility when compared to alternative forms of aircraft propulsion. Regarding their application for spacecraft, their in-vacuum performance has not yet been reliably measured.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

If and when such tests are conducted, their performance can then be compared to other existing forms of electric propulsion, such as Ion Propulsion.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

I believe that work in this field holds tremendous hope for our future and I have presented this work in the hope that I in turn may inspire the younger generation to experiment in this fascinating subject,

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

the greater quantity of people experimenting in this field , increases the worlds odds to finally break free from the cradle we call the earth. My motto is, I have freely received and now I freely give, hopefully returning the compliment by freely distributing the information. Kind Regards John.

[Sk3letr0n]

why do you talk like that?

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

Because the other way I talked breeched YouTube's strict copy write policy and was taken off.

[cowbuut]

thats called magnetism dumbass

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

Thanks professor cowbutt, the method shown is not magnetism because no magnets are used in the video, so you have just made are real ar#e of yourself guess its in your name, thanks for your irrelevant comment, hopefully higher education will help you.

[mhaneline]

/crying with laughter

[Sk3letr0n]

is that a fact?

[nicholeddy29]

yeah he is right, ignorants should think before making incredibly stupid and idiotic comments.

[FlavoredCoffeeGuy]

If you wanted the full impact of the spin effect, use a high frequency pulsating DC.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

Thanks for your response and advice, Im not sure how it relates to the video, you attached it to, but I have also experimented with rotating plasma, and have achieved precision control and movement to my will by modulating with square waves of various frequencies, to such a degree that I now believe that with further modification, 3D objects can be projected within a plasma tube, in a similar way that we project 2D on cathode tubes.

[FlavoredCoffeeGuy]

Hello,

You've got up to the right voltages in air. Now, place a small neodymium magnet at the center of the negative electrode. This will help reduce arcing by forcing the arc to attempt to spin.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

I missed this earlier comment you made, now I understand what you want me to do, a good suggestion, but with the High voltage DC potential I am using, this has little effect as I have already tried, so you are on the correct wavelength. But with a combined device such as on this web page and method 4, a net gain may be achieved and worth a try, thanks

[AVAMagneticlev]

Very good explanation and footage can't stop now until I've watched all

[talktoyourself]

This is really amazing, i can't wait to finish the vids. I truly applaud your dedication to this project, but it think your lifter had a tad to much voltage, the gravitational well collapses when a bridge is formed. And i know i'm really nit picking now but i also think you current is through the roof! lol I'm pretty sure that it only requires some tens of micro-amperes. Don't get me wrong i'm am definitely a fan. Thanks so much for making these!

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

Based on my experiments and as well as stating in my video that for the effect to occur when the dielectric is polarised to the threshold of break down, such perpetrations can cause avalanche breakdown, if the voltage is too high and the dielectric conducts there will be no thrust so I agree with your comment this is also shown that when a spark occurred the lifter lost altitude.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

The reason for the high voltages and currents was that it was particularly required for the quartz crystal and metal domes the greatest thrust is clearly shown when the current and voltage was as high as the objects could handle, it was only at the threshold that thrust occurred as thrust is associated with change in state from polarization to breakdown. When the voltage was reduced as seen with the dome and sphere experiment the dome barely lifts off.

[JOHNROMANIWASZKO]

. In these experiments voltage and current were carefully regulated to achieve the maximum effect which occurred just a fraction below the point of breakdown. To achieve better results requires far better regulation than my home made mosfet switch mode power supply could offer as well as perfectly machines domes and vehicle geometry.

Thanks for your comments and thank you for your appreciation, I am eager to upload the rest of the series, time permitting.