i can't wait to get this.... i just ordered one! i've been riding my weyless rollers for 30 years, which are bulletproof, but my fiorelli and masi, old school steel, love out of the saddle riding-THIS VIDEO ALONE SOLD ME!!!!
@unweirdness Yes, definitely stable enough for sprints. In fact, when you do out of the saddle efforts and you use the turntable riser ring, you have a feel that's like rollers minus the attention penalty!
@KineticbyKurt In this video, someone retrofitted a computrainer load generator onto the kinetic rock and roll trainer. Has anyone else done this? I'm a big fan of the computrainer because of the multi-rider capabilities and software integration in general.
@ybot321 It's a great ride sitting down. Really! The movement when seated is as subtle as the movement you normally have when rolling out on the open road. You can adjust the tension on the elastomer stack to make the the movement more or less active. You'll find that the free float of the trainer engages the core muscles and allows the saddle to move with your body... Thus, it goes a lot easier on the 'taint than you normally get from sitting on a trainer... added benefit!
Got the PRO and set it up with my mountainbike and its surpassed all my expectations! I tightened the bolts to textbook standard and felt zero bob, my 200 pound husband had the same reaction. Next we put my road bike on it and out of the saddle riding is incredible. I'm also happy I ordered the turntable riser, it all works so well together. I rode for 2 hours and can't believe how *un-sore* I am, awesome all around.
The trainer works if you are light weight. I bob up and down and rock forward on every pedal stroke when sitting. The trainer feels like it will tip over when I stand up. I am 220lbs. Too much motion at this body weight. I have to focus on balancing and not on riding. I prefer my Kinetic Road machine fluid trainer.
One of the best things about the rock and roll trainer is that you have to pedal efficiently or it will bounce a little. It's the same as on rollers. You can also tighten up the bolts at the pivot joint. Also, I've found that the base is actually more stable than a rigid trainer and I don't ever feel like it will tip over. Hope that helps.
I also train on rollers. I have the bolts on the Rock and Roll tightened all the way. The solution is to offer a selection of elastomers of varying stiffness based on the rider's weight. Look at the video closely and you will see very little up and down motion with a wide side to side tilt when the rider is standing. When I stand on the trainer it is like riding a pogo stick. I find it difficult to spin smoothly when standing up and hammering.
I have this trainer and it is far and away more realistic than my old one. Getting out of the saddle is great because it moves from side to side and when I'm just spinning it is very comfortable as it just "float" with you. It also have to make sure my peddle stroke is smooth or it will let me know:)
my worry is the load...it looks like if he sat down hard or it was a bigger rider the wheel would botton out..otherwise its very cool looks like it takes the boring out of it...
You could very easily put shims under all the floor points and the front wheel chock to take it up another inch. Also, on the Kinetics site it says the tension of the bushing is adjustable so sway and sag can probably be customized. It's recommended for riders up to 250lbs.
The thing I like best is that it absorbs the twisting force that would normally be applied to the dropouts. This is a real concern with a carbon frame. In other words...it's better for your $3k bike.
How easy is it to adjust the polymer bumpers? My husband weighs 198 pounds, I'm 143, although I'd be riding it the most. I also want the Pro Model base.
@CYKLANOW - the RealRyder is a stationary bike, so the main difference between it and the rock n roll is that you use your own bicycle - riding your gears, spending time in your saddle.
good question - the RR can support 325 lbs, that's rider + bike. and the polymer bumpers are adjustable for different weights -Pam Sayler, Kurt Kinetic
He has so much side to side motion off the saddle... Isn't it a waste of energy to do that?
FormulaDStock 2 months ago
@FormulaDStock
Always has been for me. But my bike's a triathlon bike designed for aerobar riding. Any side to side is lost energy and drag.
sedberg1 1 month ago
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i can't wait to get this.... i just ordered one! i've been riding my weyless rollers for 30 years, which are bulletproof, but my fiorelli and masi, old school steel, love out of the saddle riding-THIS VIDEO ALONE SOLD ME!!!!
irishbaroo 3 months ago
how much does a bike like that cost?
cross3chris 4 months ago
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schoonerchow 7 months ago
just another brilliant product !!! I can't wait to get this
simonjagassar 7 months ago
what's this song's name?
tanakayodoko 9 months ago
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tanakayodoko 9 months ago
what kind of bicycle is that. the make and manufacturer? obviously its a giant,
powerseriesman 10 months ago
@powerseriesman gaint tcr
mydogmika 10 months ago
Great camera work on the ride sequences!
chh5555 1 year ago
where can i buy one from another country ?
azt3c 1 year ago
Is it stable enough to practice sprints on it?
unweirdness 1 year ago
@unweirdness Yes, definitely stable enough for sprints. In fact, when you do out of the saddle efforts and you use the turntable riser ring, you have a feel that's like rollers minus the attention penalty!
KineticbyKurt 1 year ago
@KineticbyKurt Thanks for the information!
unweirdness 1 year ago
@KineticbyKurt In this video, someone retrofitted a computrainer load generator onto the kinetic rock and roll trainer. Has anyone else done this? I'm a big fan of the computrainer because of the multi-rider capabilities and software integration in general.
qkmin 1 year ago
ok.... looks great if you spend your whole time standing up. Whats it like to use when sitting down?
ybot321 1 year ago
@ybot321 It's a great ride sitting down. Really! The movement when seated is as subtle as the movement you normally have when rolling out on the open road. You can adjust the tension on the elastomer stack to make the the movement more or less active. You'll find that the free float of the trainer engages the core muscles and allows the saddle to move with your body... Thus, it goes a lot easier on the 'taint than you normally get from sitting on a trainer... added benefit!
KineticbyKurt 1 year ago
what is this song? is it easy to find or was it composed only for this video?
ita94spinnaker 1 year ago
Got the PRO and set it up with my mountainbike and its surpassed all my expectations! I tightened the bolts to textbook standard and felt zero bob, my 200 pound husband had the same reaction. Next we put my road bike on it and out of the saddle riding is incredible. I'm also happy I ordered the turntable riser, it all works so well together. I rode for 2 hours and can't believe how *un-sore* I am, awesome all around.
Nevagal 2 years ago
Where is that road?
acsbimmer 2 years ago
The trainer works if you are light weight. I bob up and down and rock forward on every pedal stroke when sitting. The trainer feels like it will tip over when I stand up. I am 220lbs. Too much motion at this body weight. I have to focus on balancing and not on riding. I prefer my Kinetic Road machine fluid trainer.
mgmdsc 2 years ago
One of the best things about the rock and roll trainer is that you have to pedal efficiently or it will bounce a little. It's the same as on rollers. You can also tighten up the bolts at the pivot joint. Also, I've found that the base is actually more stable than a rigid trainer and I don't ever feel like it will tip over. Hope that helps.
fastslomed 2 years ago
I also train on rollers. I have the bolts on the Rock and Roll tightened all the way. The solution is to offer a selection of elastomers of varying stiffness based on the rider's weight. Look at the video closely and you will see very little up and down motion with a wide side to side tilt when the rider is standing. When I stand on the trainer it is like riding a pogo stick. I find it difficult to spin smoothly when standing up and hammering.
mgmdsc 2 years ago
One of the greatest trainers I've come across!! Promotes superior core training as well.
jandmream 2 years ago
he makes cycling on the trainer look so fun...bet when i buy it, i'd be bored of it after a while
adventuristcan 2 years ago
I have this trainer and it is far and away more realistic than my old one. Getting out of the saddle is great because it moves from side to side and when I'm just spinning it is very comfortable as it just "float" with you. It also have to make sure my peddle stroke is smooth or it will let me know:)
fastslomed 2 years ago
my worry is the load...it looks like if he sat down hard or it was a bigger rider the wheel would botton out..otherwise its very cool looks like it takes the boring out of it...
sprintbass 2 years ago
You could very easily put shims under all the floor points and the front wheel chock to take it up another inch. Also, on the Kinetics site it says the tension of the bushing is adjustable so sway and sag can probably be customized. It's recommended for riders up to 250lbs.
The thing I like best is that it absorbs the twisting force that would normally be applied to the dropouts. This is a real concern with a carbon frame. In other words...it's better for your $3k bike.
tweezak 2 years ago
actually, up to 325 lbs, rider + bike and yes, the bushings (polymer bumpers) are adjustable
any ??? ask Pam @ Kinetic
KineticMN1 2 years ago
How easy is it to adjust the polymer bumpers? My husband weighs 198 pounds, I'm 143, although I'd be riding it the most. I also want the Pro Model base.
Nevagal 2 years ago
very easy to adjust - with a 17mm wrench. the PRO is the way to go - allows for the most realistic indoor ride
KineticMN1 2 years ago
Thank you for your great customer service, I talked to you on the phone yesterday a couple of times too. I just bought a RR Pro!
Nevagal 2 years ago
It looks amazing - How does it compare to the RealRyder ABF8?
CYKLANOW 1 year ago
@CYKLANOW - the RealRyder is a stationary bike, so the main difference between it and the rock n roll is that you use your own bicycle - riding your gears, spending time in your saddle.
KineticMN1 1 year ago
good question - the RR can support 325 lbs, that's rider + bike. and the polymer bumpers are adjustable for different weights -Pam Sayler, Kurt Kinetic
KineticMN1 2 years ago
this is good, I'm getting one of these straight away!
knightlylad 2 years ago