Atheists are negative people..no one wants to hang out with them...they probably have many psycho sexual problems...and they blame everything on people who believe in God...crazyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!
Btw, you seem very bitter to me. Like since you were forced to be raised Catholic, you wasted years of your life spent worshipping a God you don't believe in. "I don't believe in fairies or unicorns..." "ESPECIALLY the CHRISTIAN God"... The ultimate contradiction is that the God that created the human and the human's ability to process information is now being told by said creation that He doesn't exist. This makes me glad I'm not God, but you seem to embrace your role as God superfluously.
Btw, you seem very bitter to me. Like since you were forced to be raised Catholic, you wasted years of your life spent worshipping a God you don't believe in. "I don't believe in fairies or unicorns..." "ESPECIALLY the CHRISTIAN God"... The ultimate contradiction is that the God that created the human and the human's ability to process information is now being told by said creation that He doesn't exist. This makes me glad I'm not God, but you seem to embrace your role as God superfluously.
Oh no! You're 99% sure that God doesn't exist?! This changes everything... if you were 98% sure I wouldn't listen, but 99% sure?! So if I'm 100% sure that God is real, (even the Christian God!) then according to the laws of statistics, God exists. This is indesputable because there are thousands of mathematicians that believe in the laws of statistics and therefore God exists. Btw, it's probably contradicting to you because you were raised Catholic which makes no sense at all.
@lewdvalor "Why do Atheists seem to dislike Christians more than any other group...?"
There are several answers to this. 1) to some degree, this is just a perception of Christians. The Muslims feel the same way. 2) In our country, Christians dominate. It's not the Buddhist missionaries who come knocking at our door, and it's not the Jainists who are trying to legislate their morality in congress, and it's not the Hindus who are trying to make our kids pray to their gods in school. (cont)
@DandAinTac "Why do Atheists seem to dislike Christians more than any other group...?"
(cont) It's not the Taoists who are trying to stop stem-cell research, and it's not the Shinto who are trying to restrict reproductive rights in this country. So since Christians are overwhelmingly dominant socially and politically, and are the ones who are most in our face, naturally they are the ones who are going to hear our push-back the most.
@DandAinTac I gotcha, makes sense when you put it that way. It would be nice if we could all just mind our own business instead of pushing ideals/beliefs/ways of life onto those who didn't ask for them. Thanks for the point of view!
@lewdvalor Indeed! I agree with this completely. I don't think it will happen though. We even have politicians saying that they know there's no global warming because the Bible says so. Religion has become a problem in this country because too many people take it all too seriously and literally. Thanks for the reply.
to all you atheists who claim the universe is not intelligent, that an unconscious mindless universe can produce consciousness and intelligence... i ask, where is your evidence that you talk so much about? WHERE is ONE piece of EVIDENCE? or better yet, WHERE is the logic??? your all just as delusional as religious fanatics and thats the truth.
@Alkhemist10 The burden of proof lies in the one(s) making the positive claim. We do not need to prove to you that the universe is not intelligent. You must prove to us that the universe is intelligent. It's like me saying I can fly and asking you to prove why I can't. It's ridiculous.
Resuming... When God showed himself to me, in the most fantastic, spiritual way, I was taken back by the uniqueness and greatness of him, as he is nothing whatsoever in regard of how I thought he would be, or anyone of us can imagine how God is. You all miss out on something so wonderful that you will deeply regret after this short life. I feel truly sad that many like you (knightkat33) still live in doubt. Listen, you are really missing out on something more worth than wasting time like this.
@chanses2 Let me see if I understand you here. You believe in Him because you have witnessed Him? Not because someone else witnessed Him and told you about it?
@lazyperfectionist1 It goes both ways, but what would anyone know for sure if there weren't a God who actually reveals himself to someone who wholeheartedly seeks him? According to the New Testament, Jesus tell that he will manifest himself to the one who believes in him, and when he does, there will be no doubt anylonger. I was so overwhelmed by how different He is than what anyone or myself, for that matter, had tried to describe Him. This is nothing I can describe in words or feelings.
@chanses2 You do realize you witnessed a higher being in a spiritual way in way more advanced in the mind from us right. It wasn't a God it was just a more evolved being.
Resuming... when he saw the miracle happen to this person he knew, as it happen right before his eyes when some people prayed, he turned about and surrendered his life to Jesus. The doctors said it was a miracle, because his bone and muscles and tissues had grown. That's God acting when his children pray for something. If you have doubts, do seek, as I did, becuase, if you truly and thoroughly search, you will find that he is, as I did, too, and in a way that is beyond amazing. --- Cont...
I we look into the meaning of the word atheism, most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist. The term atheism originated from the Greek ἄθεος (atheos), meaning "without god". So, you have miss-tracked. Those who aren't certain of if there is a God, those are struggling with it, and they aren't atheists, well, they have doubts, so why not call them doubters? I know a man who was a firm atheist, but, when he saw a miracle happen to somebody he knew, --- cont..
Atheists believe in a god. It's name is humanity. They put their faith in human ability and intellect. Humanity however, in it's "limitless intellectual potential" has turned on itself to cause pain and destruction. Humanity is responsible for every problem on this planet. But go ahead and put faith in the force that causes hate, poverty, and destruction.
Everone is full of sin. If atheists don't believe there is a God, then why do so many try so hard to rage against him and Christians? One can simply browse YouTube and find literally hundreds of people expressing their hate for God and his servants, or trying to disprove his existence and character. All the while they proudly proclaim I am an atheist! Come on people you aren't fooling anyone.
Well what a very beautiful intelligent young looking women. I honestly clicked on this video expecting her to be a dumb whore. But I was wrong. She explained this very well in a simple manner. That was very good! Thank you for this video! I applaud you!
I appreciate seeing intelligence on the internet. I am glad you are clearing things up. I suggest not looking to far into Satanism though. It is Barbaric and cruel. Thank you for making this video.
i dont believe there is a god. but if there is one, it has no relevance on how we should live or conduct our things. holy books say nothing about how to preserve nature eg, and what they say about how to live and moral, is basically bullshit for social control, which conserves society in a retarded state. thats why im an atheist.
Wow! Is it just me or are Atheist females getting hotter and hotter. Lol no matter what this girl in this video says I can't help but agree to everything she says just because how good she looks. hahahaha
@ergotrof So I ask if you are able to actually address any of the points of this video instead of just handing out assignments and you respond by bombarding my inbox with assignments. I guess that answers my question. Do I get to give you assignments as well?
Some folks have had experiences with meeting Jesus Himself. Lots of children even have come back from near-death experiences and said they were with Jesus. It's pretty tough to topple over the reality of Jesus (and therefore the reality of the Holy Trinity by extension) for those of us that know Truth via firsthand experiences. Methinks, KnightKat33, that you're too far in your head (while denying what you know if your heart to be true).
@guyNbluejeans Why is it that those that see jesus in NDE are xtian? Mudlims see Mohammad, Hindu's see Shiva. Some people see chairs or beds. (sometimes they are laying in one when it happens) The human mind is very powerful and is capable of deluding oneself. Methinks you are deluded.
@Einsteinian99 I am not aware of Muslims seeing Mohammed ... so I can't comment on it. I know what I've been witness to and have heard MANY accounts from others saying they, too, saw and spoke to Jesus. If one sticks with "The human mind is very powerful and capable of deluding oneself" rational then I would imagine one could go entirely through life second guessing everything. Fortunately for me, the framework of my existence doesn't allow philosophy to override my commonsense to that degree.
@guyNbluejeans Well, if you are unaware of others "seeing" their fictitious god during NDE then you need to get out more. Look it up. You still are missing the point. Why do xtians usually see jesus and not some other "god"? I contend that indeed your framework of existence does allow religion to override your commonsense! That is unfortunate.
@Einstein The snooty attitude you have towards the subject ( calling Christians "xtians") may be what's blocking you from embracing your spiritual side, I would guess. Why don't you get on your knees and beg the Good Lord to help through the satanic clouds of darkness that surround you and come into the light? As far as what non-Christian near-deathers experience goes, all I can say is that this old boy goes First Class, hence, I'll take the goodies Jesus gives to those that follow Him! Peace.
@guyNbluejeans You're putting your soul and salvation on God's sacrifice of Himself to Himself in order to appease Himself enough to persuade Himself to forgive the rest of us for behaving in accordance with the sinful natures with which He endowed us in the first place?
@guyNbluejeans "On what do you base your assertion that He "endowed us" with a sinful nature?"
Well I am told by one Christian after another that "we fell because we had free will," and that "we fell because of original sin." I can only conclude, if this assessment is correct, that the two are inextricable.
"You are at least admitting that there is something called sin, yes?"
azyperfectionist1 While I can't say that I have any comebacks for your rebuttals (at this time), I can say that I personally KNOW that Jesus is real. For that reason, my plan is to try and follow His Commandments and, I pray, end up in His kingdom when my life comes to an end.
FWIW, I highly suspect that things will be going on in this world shortly that'll kinda put a frame to things so that everyone will see which religion is the true one. Look at RFID tags for example, then see Revelation.
@guyNbluejeans Do you know what the difference is between belief and knowledge? It's that belief can rest on almost anything, but knowledge must be demonstrable. You have no business claiming to know what you can't demonstrate.
"...I can say that I personally KNOW that Jesus is real."
How? You claim to KNOW it. How do you demonstrate this?
@lazyperfectionist1 You dropped the ball. A person can know something is true without having to demonstrate or prove it to others. My jaw earlier today, for example, had a pain in it, but I would never be able to demonstrate, as you say, to anyone else that it did. Like those little kids that had NDEs and said they saw and talked to Jesus, just because they can't satisfy your expectations doesn't mean they didn't actually see and talk to Jesus when they were on the other side.
@guyNbluejeans "A person can know something is true without having to demonstrate or prove it to others."
So then you are saying that if I testified having been touched by His noodly appendage, and that I knew it was His noodly appendage because I had felt it, you would find that convincing?
@guyNbluejeans A lot of children have also testified having eye-witnessed Santa Clause peeking at them from around corners around Christmas time. Do you find this convincing?
@lazyperfectionist1 Because in many NDEs little kids that saw and spoke to Jesus in many cases also described deceased relatives whom they didn't know but were told to tell their parents that, "Joe said he's alright." Whereas with kids seeing Santa ... they were seeing an adult dressed up as Santa playing with them. (Although I suppose you could reach by jumping on me and say "Prove it!")
I do agree with that other poster that I suspect many atheist just want to keep sinning, so they argue....
@guyNbluejeans "I do agree with that other poster that I suspect many atheist just want to keep sinning, so they argue...."
Yes, I know you can make allegations about us. Many believers make this allegation, because allegations are easy to make and handy excuses to stop thinking, since thought is hard work, after all.
I take it you don't accept Hinduism, do you? Why not? Is it just because you want to continue eating beef?
Atheists are people who want to sin without taking responsibility... lmao if I had a dime for every time I heard that when I went to a private school with fundamentalist ideologies as a kid. Are these people shitting us? They openly say that they think all they need to do is go "Jesus, I sinned! Forgive me!" and everything's all better. Then they turn around us and tell us we don't want to deal with our wrongdoings when we don't have such a cop out. Oh sweet, sweet irony.
Atheists and Creationists are the most ignorant people on this planet, and you two will eventually be the downfall of man kind. Unfortunately neither can think on a higher level nor can they ever move up and think on a higher level because in the end they both believe that something can be created out of nothing...Why do have to hold us back in the age of narrow-mindedness if we could just get ride of that we would become like God.
@Bratcipheo like how will we last forever??? If you can process in your mind the correct answer then I worship you because youYOU have the heart of a higher being!!!But if you trick yourself into believing such things then you are human, and you my friend have made an errorto human
it sounds that believing in what you tell me there, is just another way of tricking yourself.Instead of yellow, or blue, you chose red.Listen to me, theres only one truth about believers:"Respect the one that is finding the truth, doubt the one that found the truth".
@Bratcipheo He only publishes his finding in a book, and dies without knowing for certain if his work was valid. This was a smart young scientist who never tried to force his lifes work on anyone. Unlike him theists and atheists, while in the middle of testing there theory, go out telling the world there philosophy when they cant even say, Yes I am the truth.butthey still say it its only human nature fortunately Charles Darwin didnt give into thisDont worry to err is human.
@Bratcipheo This was a smart young scientist who never tried to force his lifes work on anyone. Unlike him theists and atheists, while in the middle of testing there theory, go out telling the world there philosophy when they cant even say, Yes I am the truth.butthey still say it its only human nature fortunately Charles Darwin didnt give into thisDont worry to err is human.
@Bratcipheo The young wise scientist has a theory, and goes out to test its validity. In the middle of the testing he does not go out to the masses, and say, living organisms evolve over time. No, he has studied it for years, and years but he can never prove it. He gets so close, but knows he has an insufficient amount of evidence. So he never forces his beliefs on his family, nor the people, nor his wife.
@Bratcipheo We must work towards perfecting the Homo sapiens ...You are two ignorant to understand that in our current state we can not understand how the universe came into existence We all think the same thing as Homo sapiens it makes logical since that there should have never been anything
@Bratcipheo I believe that we can never say for sure if God exists or not...I can only say that the world would be much better if everyone believed that they could not prove either, and never will...So we should all work together and not let Atheists or Theists get in the way.
ooohhhhhh you used to be a catholic wow.....funny.. the statement that you said befor that the "christian god"....its funny i got it now.....but whats not funny is that you never experience jesus and his love for you because it would make soooo much sense....atheists always try to down play the people that beleive in something higher than themselves...why? hence themselves
Society tends to smash everything is different from the overall way of thinking. Since the great majority of mankind has some sort of religious belief, that makes the atheists their number one target. It's a really tough subject... For me I see religion the same way I see sports teams... If someone root for a different team than you, this person should be seen as an "enemy", even if you don't even know him/her.
I see a lot of people pointing fingers at me because I don't believe in God,.
it must suck so much to live where you live.I live in denmark and saying you believe in god here is actually embarising, and it should be, its like believing in santa.
It almost seems as though the human mind has to believe in something. No wonder it's so easy to deceive people lol-Agnostics appear to be the least schizophrenic of all people.
@Bratcipheo How can you believe in something that doesn't exist. i'll admit i had my beliefs in false things, when i was five. Mankind can clone living things. what happens if man clones someone, do they have a different spirit or something? Just face the fact that he isn't there, and if he was he wouldn't care about you. If god existed i would have to call him or her immature for being jealous. what kind of god is jealous, even i get over things and let it be.
hey....how fast did you read what i wrote?i said god does not exist as something intelligent.That there is no higher intelligence with supernatural powers.i do not believe in god
@FantomShadowz One problem with this comment. We're all agnostics. An agnostic is someone who doesn't know if any gods exist. There is no one this term does not apply to. Being a person means being an agnostic. Saying "Agnostics appear to be the least schizophrenic of all people" makes as much sense as saying "people appear to be the least schizophrenic of all people."
@lazyperfectionist1 True but it's about what you call yourself. Not what others call you. Agnostics don't say they believe or do not believe because they realize that they don't know/ Still you can say you don't believe although you know you can not be 100% certain. That makes you an atheist. Some religious folk claim to be 100% sure that (some) god exists. They are gnostic theists.
(A)gnosticism is about knowing, a philosophical point of view, (a)theism is about believing, a religious point.
@Plopkap "Some religious folk claim to be 100% sure that (some) god exists. They are gnostic theists."
No, they don't. Certainty is not knowledge. Gnosticism is the presence of knowledge, not of certainty.
The defining difference between knowledge and belief is that belief can rest on almost anything but knowledge must be demonstrable. If you can't demonstrate it, then you don't know it.
Now, yes, I admit that I cannot rule out the existence of all gods in any way, shape, or form. I can, however, rule out the existence of the god of the Bible. He does not exist and I can demonstrate that. I can also demonstrate that Hell does not exist.
@FantomShadowz "It almost seems as though the human mind has to believe in something."
I might point out, no one here (at least as far as I know) is making the case for believing in nothing. Yes, of course every one must believe in any number of things; entirely too many to sum up in a single discussion. But there's a difference between believing in SOMETHING and believing in some combination of vague, mystical, metaphysical abstractions.
@Humanure22 Yes, you are. It sure creeps me out to see people who are made to be uncomfortable simply by witnessing one person show affection towards another. Seriously, get beyond the religious brainwashing you must have undergone, and stop being ashamed/afraid of your own (natural) emotions. I only desired to give her a quick friendly peck if I recall correctly... it's been a while now... I have no clue what disturbed actions you were imagining...
@kropking oh relax you over analyzing fuck. Religious brainwashing??? I'm an atheist, and have no fear of my emotions. I wanna kiss you, you little beauty? Really? With a line like that you are either french or a child predator. I'm hoping french, good people really. Pick one buddy! This is a false dichotomy I am forcing upon you!
I have a secret kropking, creepy guys rule. I wanna fuck you, you dank grotesque twat.
@Humanure22 Actually, I am half French... not that it matters, because saying what I said would have nothing to do with that at all. And I'm not over-analyzing, my brain just works this way naturally. I didn't choose for my mind to work this way, and I'm not sorry that you feel threatened by it.
@Humanure22 And being an atheist has nothing to do with not being brainwashed by religion. If you live in a society dominated by dogma, you could very well adopt some of their ideals without even realizing it. Prudish tendencies being one of those effects. Which you CLEARLY exhibit. Or perhaps you're not getting laid and you feel jealous of men who don't have a problem talking to women? Or maybe... you just hate that I had the highest rated comment. Looks like the majority agreed with me...
@kropking hahahahah, my my, I am astounded you haven't realized that I am just pulling your leg, I really didn't care about what you said, it didn't effect me at all. I am also amazed by how much you assume about people you have never met. I saw the comment and posted creepy as a funny little joke. Maybe you didn't find it funny, it is possible no one else found it funny either.
@kropking As well, being an atheist and a skeptic has everything to do with not being indoctrinated by stupid unfounded belief. I am very aware of cultural influence on the growing subconscious, as a anthropology and psychology nut. Another thing you should know about me to aid your understanding of my comments, is that I am a comedian, I take the piss out of people all the time, because it is funny. Usually, people have enough a sense of humor to realize it's a joke, and laugh at it...
@Humanure22 Yeah, I noticed that you believe you're funny... but what you failed to realize while you were patting yourself on the back is that I was neither amused nor impressed by your reckless ramblings. Perhaps I over-reacted in some people's view, but after what I've endured my whole life, at this point, I'm way beyond fed up with that condesceding, chastising bullshit from closed-minded dupes, whether or not you actually meant it.
@kropking I could care less if you found it funny. I would however, be impressed by your ability to laugh at yourself. Honestly I will apologize, had I known you were such an over emotional child I would have spared you my single word comment.
We have all had problems in life, things that trigger transgressed pain, but not being able to laugh about those things is the worst stance you could possibly take. Just relax, if you want an intelligent girl like this, learn to keep your cool.
@Humanure22 Oh, and thanks for the advice on women, goofy nuts. Even though I already have more than enough smart, sweet, and beautiful women in my life... sheesh... what would I do without you? Moron.
I'm pretty sure I'm doing alright with the ladies, last time I checked. Condescending prick. I'm done with this worthless bickering. Go ahead and have the last word, if you must.
@kropking hahahah, I really wish you wouldn't end our sweet little conversation. The way you project yourself towards others is just delicious. I'll admit I was just using your replies as fun day to day laugh, but I am sorry if I offended you, you seem like a level headed individual. Actually I'm sure if we were to meet in real life, our interaction would be much more pleasant than this blither.
@Humanure22 And it's pretty fucked up that you'd try to make me the butt of your little unfunny joke based on something I said that purely came from the heart, Mr. Comedian. Oh ha ha ha... yes, this guy telling a girl that he thinks she's cute is such a comical event! Oh man! How hilarious! ...???... I don't see a joke. You're not funny at all.
Don't quit your day job, man... unless you're a stand-up comedian, in which case you should quit immediately. :)
@kropking No offense, but I will take my comedic advice from some one who has a sense of humor, not some emotionally crippled twat who is still whining about the fact that I jokingly called him creepy. Sir you have not just tapped in to your emotion, they are the marionette pulling your strings. You can't even stand back and giggle for a moment. You apparently enjoy playing the victim, because the big bad man on the internet said A SINGLE WORD that you didn't like.
@Humanure22 I have a sense of humor, you're just not funny. What about that aren't you comprehending? Plus, have you noticed how hypocritical your posts are? Whining about me whining, saying that whining is for kids. Cool.
Funny thing though, I wasn't whining. Just letting you know what an unfunny, egomaniacal, annoying pseudo-intellectual you are. I laugh all day long, most people even say I goof off too much. Not that you would know, of course. P.S. - The saying is, "couldn't care less". ;)
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in his might and seized the scourge to drive out of the temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight for the world against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand yeas, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this...
Hitler killed Jews in the name of Jesus? Wait, so you're taking Hitler as the speaker of what a Christian is over Jesus? (lol) I'm sorry, but do you smoke marijuana often? Think about it (yeah, I know it's hard for you), why would Jesus (a Jew) want someone to kill (Jesus prohibited murder and even anger against people) to mass murder jews? Yup, your reason is what leads to countless millions of deaths, I love your logic, it's entertaining.
Hitler killed Jews because he blamed them for killing Jesus, you can even look it up yourself. I never said that Hitler was the speaker of all of Christianity, you just tried to put words into my mouth. I'm happy that you think logic is entertaining, maybe someday you might realize that it is logic that keeps you alive contrary to what you may believe. I never said that Jesus condoned what Hitler did either, I only said that Hitler killed jews in the name of Christianity and god, which is true.
Some brainless scientists regard matter as independent and imagine that it has itself gained this freedom and elaborated the laws that rule over it.
But how can they believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
Materialism looks at the world with one eye *closed* and, as a result, is unable to answer numerous questions!
Materialism imagines that lowly objects are the source for the emergence of higher objects without troubling to ascertain whether the higher, in fact, exists at the level of the lower. If lowly matter is unable even at the highest stage of its development, namely thought and reflection— ....
either to create itself or to violate any of the laws that rule over it, it follows ineluctably that it is unable to create other beings and the laws regulating them. How, then, can it be believed that lowly matter should engage in the creation and origination of higher beings or have the power to bestow existence on lofty phenomena?
Atheism rejects morality, it lives in a metaphysical naturalistic world were truth is subjective and there is no purpose in the creation in an objective view. Atheism takes everything from menaing to morals down to an individual level, meaning anything could be anything. People ususally claim Atheism has no dogma, but it does pressupose the metaphysical naturalsitic dogma that is a logical consequence of the non-existance of God.
No, it doesn't you have the same agruments whenever you post and none of them are valid or even thought through. You just have shown you don't know what dogma is, and there is no consequence of the non-existence of god, you just think so based on nothing.
In Atheism the Universe is mere chemical and physical reactions, just atoms and the void as Democritus would say. They are blind forces governed by mere chance, there is no purpose in the Universe. Being no purpose, there is no morality, just flawed thinking of human beings, in which they fight for authority to prove that they're law or ethical morals are right. In Atheism morals are either meaningless and non-existant.
So the fact that we get our morals on personal experience and the society we are in makes absolutely no impact on an atheists morals? And saying "chance" is a bastardization of survival of the fittest or cosmology. Being an atheist doesn't all of a sudden mean that we have no morals, and just because we don't believe everything we're told without evidence doesn't mean we're bad people. Atheists have been shown to have more "morals" than christians shown by demographics inthe in the prison system
Yes, the society you live in creates your morals, but why do you follow your morals? The question is why not how, if you've been paying any attention. Atheism has no reason to follow morals, unless the Atheist is ignorant of any critique of his basis on morals, in which his morals come from an already moral society.
No, you're right, it doesn't mean you don't have morals. It just menas you have no reason to follow them. Also, you made a causation/corellation fallacy.
"Yes, the society you live in creates your morals, but why do you follow your morals?"
Because a society cannot properly function without the persons in the society following rules to make a stable society. If we all killed eachother it wouldn't be a stable society and wouldn't last very long. That is the main reason anyone follows modern morality, not because some fictitious deity said so, if that was the case in christianity women would still have no rights and we would still have slaves.
So you're doing it for society? You follow morals for the society? Is that it? I don't think a mass murderer really cares about society, so it really doesn't matter nor does it change anything.
Furthermore, because Christianity exists women have rights and slavery is abolished, have you even read anything about the history of Christianity (and no not from a biased idiot website)?
Yep, and those morals put that murderer in jail. No, because Christianity exists slavery was established in america same with sexism (ever read your own bible and the history of colonies?).
The Bible encourages sexism? Mind poitning out where the Bible encourages sexism? Furthermore, if you took a theology class, you would probably have an awnser to your claims. In fact you don't need to take a theology class, you need just to think about it in a theological perspective, but since you don't, and you only think from one side and never think from another perspective, I don't blame you for your nescience on theolgoical matters.
I don't need to take a "theology" class to back up my claims, it's literally all common sense. The theological side is people trying to say they know something to which they cannot possibly know, now why would I go try to learn how to do that?
If there more religious in jials than non-religious (which I can argue, especially because religious doesn't equal belief in God, almost everyone believes in God and are not religious), it wouldn't matter. You're making a causation/corellation fallacy. Furthermore, it has nothing to do with the actions or morals of people at all, but wether they have reasons to follow morals in the first place, you're being ignorant and straying from the subject, stay on task!
I am making so such fallacy, you implied that atheism has no reason to follow morality, therefore using your own reasoning there should be more atheists on par with the atheists overall population in jail than Christians or any other religion, which in fact shows that atheists have the lowest crime rate within it's population. I am no straying in anyway, I am just using your own reasoning to show you how rediculous and backwards it really is.
No, because reality is that God gave us morality, and most Atheists don't question morality, they just blindly follow what their society thinks is moral. Also, that's not my reasoning, I don't commit causation/corellation fallacies, but if you want me to? Sure, I'll use your reasoning. Since the worst mass murderers of all time were Atheists, then all Atheists are mass murderers. The same goes for you with Christians, even though they contradict their belief system.
Again, there was morality before christianity, before the man made invention of the christian god. And even if morality was somehow given to us, which it isn't, by a deity what amkes you think it was your particular deity and not one of the countless others? Yes, if society deems it moral then as a society it is, same with the opposite, that is how slavery was abolished. No atheist mass murderers did what they did in the name of atheism, all religious ones did theirs in the name of religion.
Yes, there was morality before Christianity, proving the Adam and Eve allegorical story, but before the idea of the existance of God, there was no justification for it. Once again, you're straying from the original point, I'm not asking about the oriigns, or who is moral or who is not, I'm asking WHY IS MORALITY JUSTIFIABLE? Anything that doesn't pertain to the actual question, from now on, will be ignored.
That's quite a leap saying that morality before Christianity is proof of Adam and Eve, Just the same as saying since my cat is orange and white proves that Atlantis exists and still lives, do you not see the absurdity of that statement? "Human" morality WAS around before the existence of your god, it's been proven. And for the third time, morality is justifiable because if it wasn't then society would implode, it is needed for a stable human existence.
Nope, I don't see any absurdity in that statement, the same way you don't think relativism is absurd. My God has always existed, he started morality, the concpetion of human beings of my God did not come till later, why does this matter? Morality is justifiable, how? I'm not sure if what you're calling morality is in fact morality.
So anything that keeps a society stable, it's justifiable? The same way Saddam Hussein tried to keep his country stable with mass murder?
According to you your god has always exited, but you have no proof to back up that baseless assertion. He started morality, according to the bible, with blood sacrifice, slavery, sexism, genocide, infanticide, and attrocities of war. That, in modern society, is NOT moral no matter how many times you say it is. I've already pointed out how morality is justifiable again and again, if you still don't get it reread my previous posts answering it, I really don't want to repeat myself over and over.
If I have no proof to back it up? I have philosophical proof, countless argument from contingency, teleology, cosmollogical, arguments from reason, arguments form morality, arguments from truth. They are philosophical mainly, but teleological are mainly scientific based. I'm not going to speak about it here, talk to me in PM because 500 characters isn't enough.
Blood sacrifice? Sexism? Slavery? Wow, so many assertions form bias idiocy, PM me, and stop making assertions.
No, you have skeptical proof based on nothing then try to pass it off as absolute truth. I have the fact that all societies have had to have a moral code in order to flourish and/or survive, it is well documented even outside of humanity. Ie baboons as a group attack an alligator that snatches a young even though they know the young will be dead. Give me one cosmological argument that proves your side. I am not making assertions, I can give you the exact parts in the bible where these are.
The ability to survive isn't based on moral code, it's based on ruthless lack of morality. Is it moral to love your enemies? If it is, then societies would have been destroyed everytime they embraced morality. Is it moral to forgive? Then there would be no one in jail. Societies have to be harsh, not moral, to survive. Baboons love their enemies or do they attack them until their face doesn't exist anymore?
"The ability to survive isn't based on moral code"
Yes it is, again no matter how many times you repeat a lie it doesn;t make it true. Our early ancestors realized that if they were nice to their family members or another tribe, that member or tribe would have a high chance of being nice back, makes absolutely perfect sense no matter which way you look at it. Societies have to be harsh to those that oppose the moral code or society would inherntly fall apart, like i said.
Christians also do NOT love their enemies, they attack atheists for not wanting a specific religion in office to keep things fair to everyone, they attack other religions because it isn't the same as theirs, and they attack progression by science. How is that love thy enemy?
I'm done here good day. There is no reason to speak with a person who wants to be 'right' over finding truth, a person who relishes in 'looking good' in front of everyone over deep inside having truth, a person who is bound by recalcitrance and ignorance to change.
I don't need to look good in front of others, you make me look good in front of others so thanks. No one is alive "knowing" that there is a truth deep inside of them that your religion is right, it's who you can indoctrinate instead of educate. Ignorance to take non substantiated claims over evidence and proof is something no rational thinking person would ever do and I truly am sorry that you have chosen to take that step into that world. "Pray for me, I'll think for you"
You have NOTHING that is based on science because science canot comment on the supernatural, but you seem not to know this, I will not take it to PMs because it is more fun watching you make a fool of yourself publicly.
If you have exact parts of the Bible (if you give me OT, argue with a Rabbi (which I'm sure would easily refute you)) PM me.
Yes, science can comment on the supernatural, it can indrectly, it can also help us with logical argumentation. Also, if you don't want to PM me, then I will be forced to believe that you care more about your appearence to other people, than to finding truth. What is the point of speaking to you then? There is none, you don't search truth.
Ok, so you do not believe in the old testament, so you don't believe in the ten commandments or the flood or creation or adam and eve...good to know. So, as for NT, Matthew 18:7-9, titus 2:9.
NO, SCIENCE CANNOT COMMENT ON THE SUPERNATURAL BECAUSE IT ISN'T DEMONSTRABLE!!!!!! EVER!!!!
You cannot ever use science to prove the bible or it's claims unless the claim is something that can be tested, like the flood which has been disproven, oh wait you don't believe in the OT, never mind.
How is what i said a riot? Demonstrate in a controlled environment that the supernatural is real, if you cannot then it is you who is the riot...."lol".
@Feralus69 Uhhh you said and i quote "NO, SCIENCE CANNOT COMMENT ON THE SUPERNATURAL BECAUSE IT ISN'T DEMONSTRABLE!!!!!! EVER!!!!" I was just using your word....
If you cant empirically demonstrate somthing, then there is no way for it to be real. Any demonstration would be poor empirical evidence.
@Feralus69 No, im saying, simply, that if somthing cant be demonstrated it is not real....there is nothing which cannot be demonstrated, if it cant, it dosent exzist.
I'm wiating for an actual awnser. You follow morality to keep society together? Why should one care about society in the first place?That's morality acting on you, you're using morality to prove morality, that's circular reasoning.
Atheists are negative people..no one wants to hang out with them...they probably have many psycho sexual problems...and they blame everything on people who believe in God...crazyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!
RunColorado100 1 month ago
qib
ronie3336 5 months ago
Btw, you seem very bitter to me. Like since you were forced to be raised Catholic, you wasted years of your life spent worshipping a God you don't believe in. "I don't believe in fairies or unicorns..." "ESPECIALLY the CHRISTIAN God"... The ultimate contradiction is that the God that created the human and the human's ability to process information is now being told by said creation that He doesn't exist. This makes me glad I'm not God, but you seem to embrace your role as God superfluously.
call3the3coves3 5 months ago
Btw, you seem very bitter to me. Like since you were forced to be raised Catholic, you wasted years of your life spent worshipping a God you don't believe in. "I don't believe in fairies or unicorns..." "ESPECIALLY the CHRISTIAN God"... The ultimate contradiction is that the God that created the human and the human's ability to process information is now being told by said creation that He doesn't exist. This makes me glad I'm not God, but you seem to embrace your role as God superfluously.
call3the3coves3 5 months ago
Oh no! You're 99% sure that God doesn't exist?! This changes everything... if you were 98% sure I wouldn't listen, but 99% sure?! So if I'm 100% sure that God is real, (even the Christian God!) then according to the laws of statistics, God exists. This is indesputable because there are thousands of mathematicians that believe in the laws of statistics and therefore God exists. Btw, it's probably contradicting to you because you were raised Catholic which makes no sense at all.
call3the3coves3 5 months ago
If you are not certain there's no God then the room of possibility is there. Anyway misconception goes both ways on atheists and believers
Vainslain 8 months ago
Why do Atheists seem to dislike Christians more than any other group...?
lewdvalor 10 months ago
@lewdvalor "Why do Atheists seem to dislike Christians more than any other group...?"
There are several answers to this. 1) to some degree, this is just a perception of Christians. The Muslims feel the same way. 2) In our country, Christians dominate. It's not the Buddhist missionaries who come knocking at our door, and it's not the Jainists who are trying to legislate their morality in congress, and it's not the Hindus who are trying to make our kids pray to their gods in school. (cont)
DandAinTac 10 months ago
@DandAinTac "Why do Atheists seem to dislike Christians more than any other group...?"
(cont) It's not the Taoists who are trying to stop stem-cell research, and it's not the Shinto who are trying to restrict reproductive rights in this country. So since Christians are overwhelmingly dominant socially and politically, and are the ones who are most in our face, naturally they are the ones who are going to hear our push-back the most.
DandAinTac 10 months ago
@DandAinTac I gotcha, makes sense when you put it that way. It would be nice if we could all just mind our own business instead of pushing ideals/beliefs/ways of life onto those who didn't ask for them. Thanks for the point of view!
lewdvalor 10 months ago
@lewdvalor Indeed! I agree with this completely. I don't think it will happen though. We even have politicians saying that they know there's no global warming because the Bible says so. Religion has become a problem in this country because too many people take it all too seriously and literally. Thanks for the reply.
DandAinTac 10 months ago
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lewdvalor 10 months ago
to all you atheists who claim the universe is not intelligent, that an unconscious mindless universe can produce consciousness and intelligence... i ask, where is your evidence that you talk so much about? WHERE is ONE piece of EVIDENCE? or better yet, WHERE is the logic??? your all just as delusional as religious fanatics and thats the truth.
Alkhemist10 10 months ago
@Alkhemist10 The burden of proof lies in the one(s) making the positive claim. We do not need to prove to you that the universe is not intelligent. You must prove to us that the universe is intelligent. It's like me saying I can fly and asking you to prove why I can't. It's ridiculous.
yukikurama 10 months ago
Resuming... When God showed himself to me, in the most fantastic, spiritual way, I was taken back by the uniqueness and greatness of him, as he is nothing whatsoever in regard of how I thought he would be, or anyone of us can imagine how God is. You all miss out on something so wonderful that you will deeply regret after this short life. I feel truly sad that many like you (knightkat33) still live in doubt. Listen, you are really missing out on something more worth than wasting time like this.
chanses2 1 year ago
@chanses2 Let me see if I understand you here. You believe in Him because you have witnessed Him? Not because someone else witnessed Him and told you about it?
lazyperfectionist1 11 months ago
@lazyperfectionist1 It goes both ways, but what would anyone know for sure if there weren't a God who actually reveals himself to someone who wholeheartedly seeks him? According to the New Testament, Jesus tell that he will manifest himself to the one who believes in him, and when he does, there will be no doubt anylonger. I was so overwhelmed by how different He is than what anyone or myself, for that matter, had tried to describe Him. This is nothing I can describe in words or feelings.
chanses2 11 months ago
@chanses2 You do realize you witnessed a higher being in a spiritual way in way more advanced in the mind from us right. It wasn't a God it was just a more evolved being.
Tiesto20121 10 months ago
Resuming... when he saw the miracle happen to this person he knew, as it happen right before his eyes when some people prayed, he turned about and surrendered his life to Jesus. The doctors said it was a miracle, because his bone and muscles and tissues had grown. That's God acting when his children pray for something. If you have doubts, do seek, as I did, becuase, if you truly and thoroughly search, you will find that he is, as I did, too, and in a way that is beyond amazing. --- Cont...
chanses2 1 year ago
I we look into the meaning of the word atheism, most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist. The term atheism originated from the Greek ἄθεος (atheos), meaning "without god". So, you have miss-tracked. Those who aren't certain of if there is a God, those are struggling with it, and they aren't atheists, well, they have doubts, so why not call them doubters? I know a man who was a firm atheist, but, when he saw a miracle happen to somebody he knew, --- cont..
chanses2 1 year ago
Atheists believe in a god. It's name is humanity. They put their faith in human ability and intellect. Humanity however, in it's "limitless intellectual potential" has turned on itself to cause pain and destruction. Humanity is responsible for every problem on this planet. But go ahead and put faith in the force that causes hate, poverty, and destruction.
Danthemanlyman7 1 year ago
@Danthemanlyman7
I prefer to call humanity, "humanity", and call god, "god."
You're just changing definitions.
berniebay 1 year ago
Everone is full of sin. If atheists don't believe there is a God, then why do so many try so hard to rage against him and Christians? One can simply browse YouTube and find literally hundreds of people expressing their hate for God and his servants, or trying to disprove his existence and character. All the while they proudly proclaim I am an atheist! Come on people you aren't fooling anyone.
Danthemanlyman7 1 year ago
Well what a very beautiful intelligent young looking women. I honestly clicked on this video expecting her to be a dumb whore. But I was wrong. She explained this very well in a simple manner. That was very good! Thank you for this video! I applaud you!
Metalitron12 1 year ago
@Metalitron12 <-- The true definition of a back-handed compliment!
HitchardDawkens 11 months ago
I appreciate seeing intelligence on the internet. I am glad you are clearing things up. I suggest not looking to far into Satanism though. It is Barbaric and cruel. Thank you for making this video.
DeathsWill228 1 year ago
Want to touch the boobies. Anyways, nice vid.
migraine516 1 year ago
i dont believe there is a god. but if there is one, it has no relevance on how we should live or conduct our things. holy books say nothing about how to preserve nature eg, and what they say about how to live and moral, is basically bullshit for social control, which conserves society in a retarded state. thats why im an atheist.
bocckoka 1 year ago
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Wow! Is it just me or are Atheist females getting hotter and hotter. Lol no matter what this girl in this video says I can't help but agree to everything she says just because how good she looks. hahahaha
apollomiami83 1 year ago
@ergotrof So I ask if you are able to actually address any of the points of this video instead of just handing out assignments and you respond by bombarding my inbox with assignments. I guess that answers my question. Do I get to give you assignments as well?
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
@ergotrof Could you try addressing the points made here instead of just handing out assignments?
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
"Atheists just wanna sin and get away with it."
Considering that, under organized religion, or any form of organized dogmatism, there is no greater sin than the application of reason, I confess.
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
Some folks have had experiences with meeting Jesus Himself. Lots of children even have come back from near-death experiences and said they were with Jesus. It's pretty tough to topple over the reality of Jesus (and therefore the reality of the Holy Trinity by extension) for those of us that know Truth via firsthand experiences. Methinks, KnightKat33, that you're too far in your head (while denying what you know if your heart to be true).
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans Why is it that those that see jesus in NDE are xtian? Mudlims see Mohammad, Hindu's see Shiva. Some people see chairs or beds. (sometimes they are laying in one when it happens) The human mind is very powerful and is capable of deluding oneself. Methinks you are deluded.
Einsteinian99 1 year ago
@Einsteinian99 I am not aware of Muslims seeing Mohammed ... so I can't comment on it. I know what I've been witness to and have heard MANY accounts from others saying they, too, saw and spoke to Jesus. If one sticks with "The human mind is very powerful and capable of deluding oneself" rational then I would imagine one could go entirely through life second guessing everything. Fortunately for me, the framework of my existence doesn't allow philosophy to override my commonsense to that degree.
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans Well, if you are unaware of others "seeing" their fictitious god during NDE then you need to get out more. Look it up. You still are missing the point. Why do xtians usually see jesus and not some other "god"? I contend that indeed your framework of existence does allow religion to override your commonsense! That is unfortunate.
Einsteinian99 1 year ago
@Einstein The snooty attitude you have towards the subject ( calling Christians "xtians") may be what's blocking you from embracing your spiritual side, I would guess. Why don't you get on your knees and beg the Good Lord to help through the satanic clouds of darkness that surround you and come into the light? As far as what non-Christian near-deathers experience goes, all I can say is that this old boy goes First Class, hence, I'll take the goodies Jesus gives to those that follow Him! Peace.
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans Either you truly are joking or you really have deluded yourself.
Einsteinian99 1 year ago
@Einsteinian99 You left out one other possibility -- I'M RIGHT.
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans Well I'm putting my money on science and facts. You can have the ancient fairy tales.
Einsteinian99 1 year ago
@Einsteinian99 Do what you will, my friend. I'm putting my soul and salvation on what Jesus did, and I hope one day you do too.
Take Care!:-)
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans You're putting your soul and salvation on God's sacrifice of Himself to Himself in order to appease Himself enough to persuade Himself to forgive the rest of us for behaving in accordance with the sinful natures with which He endowed us in the first place?
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
@lazyperfectionist1 On what do you base your assertion that He "endowed us" with a sinful nature?
You are at least admitting that there is something called sin, yes?
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans "On what do you base your assertion that He "endowed us" with a sinful nature?"
Well I am told by one Christian after another that "we fell because we had free will," and that "we fell because of original sin." I can only conclude, if this assessment is correct, that the two are inextricable.
"You are at least admitting that there is something called sin, yes?"
No. I'm speaking hypothetically.
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
azyperfectionist1 While I can't say that I have any comebacks for your rebuttals (at this time), I can say that I personally KNOW that Jesus is real. For that reason, my plan is to try and follow His Commandments and, I pray, end up in His kingdom when my life comes to an end.
FWIW, I highly suspect that things will be going on in this world shortly that'll kinda put a frame to things so that everyone will see which religion is the true one. Look at RFID tags for example, then see Revelation.
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans Do you know what the difference is between belief and knowledge? It's that belief can rest on almost anything, but knowledge must be demonstrable. You have no business claiming to know what you can't demonstrate.
"...I can say that I personally KNOW that Jesus is real."
How? You claim to KNOW it. How do you demonstrate this?
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
@lazyperfectionist1 You dropped the ball. A person can know something is true without having to demonstrate or prove it to others. My jaw earlier today, for example, had a pain in it, but I would never be able to demonstrate, as you say, to anyone else that it did. Like those little kids that had NDEs and said they saw and talked to Jesus, just because they can't satisfy your expectations doesn't mean they didn't actually see and talk to Jesus when they were on the other side.
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans "A person can know something is true without having to demonstrate or prove it to others."
So then you are saying that if I testified having been touched by His noodly appendage, and that I knew it was His noodly appendage because I had felt it, you would find that convincing?
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
@lazyperfectionist1 You crossed a line. This conversation is over.
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans Oh that's rich. You waltz in here with your hackneyed allegations and your special pleading and I'M the one who crossed the line.
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans A lot of children have also testified having eye-witnessed Santa Clause peeking at them from around corners around Christmas time. Do you find this convincing?
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
@lazyperfectionist1 Considering the context, no.
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans What makes the one context any better than the other?
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
@lazyperfectionist1 Because in many NDEs little kids that saw and spoke to Jesus in many cases also described deceased relatives whom they didn't know but were told to tell their parents that, "Joe said he's alright." Whereas with kids seeing Santa ... they were seeing an adult dressed up as Santa playing with them. (Although I suppose you could reach by jumping on me and say "Prove it!")
I do agree with that other poster that I suspect many atheist just want to keep sinning, so they argue....
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
@guyNbluejeans "I do agree with that other poster that I suspect many atheist just want to keep sinning, so they argue...."
Yes, I know you can make allegations about us. Many believers make this allegation, because allegations are easy to make and handy excuses to stop thinking, since thought is hard work, after all.
I take it you don't accept Hinduism, do you? Why not? Is it just because you want to continue eating beef?
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
What separates you from me is just 1%.Keep it Athiest.
mosaicmaster1 1 year ago
I love how Christians always go "ATHIESTS ARE SINNERS BELIEVE IN GOD LOVE JESUS BLAH BLAH" but never try to fight the logic. LOL
L4z1n3ss 1 year ago
I agree with most of what you said. From what I understand of Satanism there is more to it than what you've stated here.
However Satan is a Christian invention. So to class atheists as Satanists is just a load of old womans piddle.
davrosbrother 1 year ago
Wow! Ths is one sexy Atheist female who needs a strong Atheist male to protect her.
apollomiami83 1 year ago
@ergotrof There is no living god, and putting it in caps doesn't change that very basic fact.
jymbo1969 1 year ago
that is one super sexy little dimple in your chin.
doodleman7734 1 year ago 2
@ergotrof Yeah... some "loving" god ya got there.
pumarunner88 1 year ago
Atheists are people who want to sin without taking responsibility... lmao if I had a dime for every time I heard that when I went to a private school with fundamentalist ideologies as a kid. Are these people shitting us? They openly say that they think all they need to do is go "Jesus, I sinned! Forgive me!" and everything's all better. Then they turn around us and tell us we don't want to deal with our wrongdoings when we don't have such a cop out. Oh sweet, sweet irony.
pumarunner88 1 year ago
@pumarunner88 It is impossible to sin. So, no, your argument is invalid.
jymbo1969 1 year ago
@jymbo1969 Where did I say that "sin" actually exists? I think I made it fairly clear that such concepts are bs.
pumarunner88 1 year ago
Actually thats atheistic satanism. just fyi
bighaus54 1 year ago
Atheists and Creationists are the most ignorant people on this planet, and you two will eventually be the downfall of man kind. Unfortunately neither can think on a higher level nor can they ever move up and think on a higher level because in the end they both believe that something can be created out of nothing...Why do have to hold us back in the age of narrow-mindedness if we could just get ride of that we would become like God.
OverseerJames 1 year ago
@OverseerJames
well smart guy, then tell me truth then; if its neither religion or atheism.
kinda not much left.
Bratcipheo 1 year ago
@Bratcipheo like how will we last forever??? If you can process in your mind the correct answer then I worship you because youYOU have the heart of a higher being!!!But if you trick yourself into believing such things then you are human, and you my friend have made an errorto human
OverseerJames 1 year ago
@OverseerJames
it sounds that believing in what you tell me there, is just another way of tricking yourself.Instead of yellow, or blue, you chose red.Listen to me, theres only one truth about believers:"Respect the one that is finding the truth, doubt the one that found the truth".
Bratcipheo 1 year ago
@Bratcipheo He only publishes his finding in a book, and dies without knowing for certain if his work was valid. This was a smart young scientist who never tried to force his lifes work on anyone. Unlike him theists and atheists, while in the middle of testing there theory, go out telling the world there philosophy when they cant even say, Yes I am the truth.butthey still say it its only human nature fortunately Charles Darwin didnt give into thisDont worry to err is human.
OverseerJames 1 year ago
@Bratcipheo This was a smart young scientist who never tried to force his lifes work on anyone. Unlike him theists and atheists, while in the middle of testing there theory, go out telling the world there philosophy when they cant even say, Yes I am the truth.butthey still say it its only human nature fortunately Charles Darwin didnt give into thisDont worry to err is human.
OverseerJames 1 year ago
@Bratcipheo ...
OverseerJames 1 year ago
@Bratcipheo The young wise scientist has a theory, and goes out to test its validity. In the middle of the testing he does not go out to the masses, and say, living organisms evolve over time. No, he has studied it for years, and years but he can never prove it. He gets so close, but knows he has an insufficient amount of evidence. So he never forces his beliefs on his family, nor the people, nor his wife.
OverseerJames 1 year ago
@Bratcipheo We must work towards perfecting the Homo sapiens ...You are two ignorant to understand that in our current state we can not understand how the universe came into existence We all think the same thing as Homo sapiens it makes logical since that there should have never been anything
OverseerJames 1 year ago
@Bratcipheo I believe that we can never say for sure if God exists or not...I can only say that the world would be much better if everyone believed that they could not prove either, and never will...So we should all work together and not let Atheists or Theists get in the way.
OverseerJames 1 year ago
@Bratcipheo READ THESE IN OREDER FROM TOP TO BOTTOM OR YOU WILL BE VERY LOST
OverseerJames 1 year ago
be strong and proud from a fellow female atheist.
Cheers Christine
christinepeace 1 year ago
Even Satan was a believer
smerrigan 1 year ago
YOU SAID "We have looked at the evidence"!
What evidence?
ahmedhusseinny 1 year ago
@ahmedhusseinny I guess she means what is presented as evidence that we clearly dismiss it as no t being such, as anecdotes, testimonials etc...
orcodrilo 1 year ago
ooohhhhhh you used to be a catholic wow.....funny.. the statement that you said befor that the "christian god"....its funny i got it now.....but whats not funny is that you never experience jesus and his love for you because it would make soooo much sense....atheists always try to down play the people that beleive in something higher than themselves...why? hence themselves
jntcollege 1 year ago
Society tends to smash everything is different from the overall way of thinking. Since the great majority of mankind has some sort of religious belief, that makes the atheists their number one target. It's a really tough subject... For me I see religion the same way I see sports teams... If someone root for a different team than you, this person should be seen as an "enemy", even if you don't even know him/her.
I see a lot of people pointing fingers at me because I don't believe in God,.
Marlon2112 1 year ago
@Marlon2112
it must suck so much to live where you live.I live in denmark and saying you believe in god here is actually embarising, and it should be, its like believing in santa.
Bratcipheo 1 year ago
@Bratcipheo You can bet that, but I am used to it anyway.
Marlon2112 1 year ago
It almost seems as though the human mind has to believe in something. No wonder it's so easy to deceive people lol-Agnostics appear to be the least schizophrenic of all people.
FantomShadowz 2 years ago 11
@FantomShadowz thank you for saying that, i'm agnostic. it's awesome how people actually think about agnostics.
d0ck47 1 year ago
@d0ck47
dont get too full of yourself.Agnostic people for me are those without goals and determination for me.
Bratcipheo 1 year ago
@Bratcipheo well, your entitled to your own opinion. Now, tell me what you believe so i can state my own opinion. If your not busy that is.
d0ck47 1 year ago
@d0ck47
my opinion?no, i merely stated i felt sorry for someone here.But okay.
My opinion is no simple matter, but ill make it very short.
God as a living, thinking thing, creating something like our world does not exist.
But you could say that everthing in life is connected, that we are one, that we are a mirror of the world, and the world a mirror of us.
Bratcipheo 1 year ago
@Bratcipheo How can you believe in something that doesn't exist. i'll admit i had my beliefs in false things, when i was five. Mankind can clone living things. what happens if man clones someone, do they have a different spirit or something? Just face the fact that he isn't there, and if he was he wouldn't care about you. If god existed i would have to call him or her immature for being jealous. what kind of god is jealous, even i get over things and let it be.
d0ck47 1 year ago
@d0ck47
hey....how fast did you read what i wrote?i said god does not exist as something intelligent.That there is no higher intelligence with supernatural powers.i do not believe in god
Bratcipheo 1 year ago
@Bratcipheo oh my bad, i must be tripping. well i don't believe in god either, so what tha fuck are we arguing about anyway.
d0ck47 1 year ago
@FantomShadowz One problem with this comment. We're all agnostics. An agnostic is someone who doesn't know if any gods exist. There is no one this term does not apply to. Being a person means being an agnostic. Saying "Agnostics appear to be the least schizophrenic of all people" makes as much sense as saying "people appear to be the least schizophrenic of all people."
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
@lazyperfectionist1 True but it's about what you call yourself. Not what others call you. Agnostics don't say they believe or do not believe because they realize that they don't know/ Still you can say you don't believe although you know you can not be 100% certain. That makes you an atheist. Some religious folk claim to be 100% sure that (some) god exists. They are gnostic theists.
(A)gnosticism is about knowing, a philosophical point of view, (a)theism is about believing, a religious point.
Plopkap 1 year ago
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@Plopkap "Some religious folk claim to be 100% sure that (some) god exists. They are gnostic theists."
No, they don't. Certainty is not knowledge. Gnosticism is the presence of knowledge, not of certainty.
The defining difference between knowledge and belief is that belief can rest on almost anything but knowledge must be demonstrable. If you can't demonstrate it, then you don't know it.
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
Now, yes, I admit that I cannot rule out the existence of all gods in any way, shape, or form. I can, however, rule out the existence of the god of the Bible. He does not exist and I can demonstrate that. I can also demonstrate that Hell does not exist.
lazyperfectionist1 1 year ago
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@FantomShadowz "It almost seems as though the human mind has to believe in something."
I might point out, no one here (at least as far as I know) is making the case for believing in nothing. Yes, of course every one must believe in any number of things; entirely too many to sum up in a single discussion. But there's a difference between believing in SOMETHING and believing in some combination of vague, mystical, metaphysical abstractions.
lazyperfectionist1 11 months ago
Smart girls rule. I wanna kiss you, you little beauty.
kropking 2 years ago 11
@kropking creeeepy
Humanure22 1 year ago
@Humanure22 Yes, you are. It sure creeps me out to see people who are made to be uncomfortable simply by witnessing one person show affection towards another. Seriously, get beyond the religious brainwashing you must have undergone, and stop being ashamed/afraid of your own (natural) emotions. I only desired to give her a quick friendly peck if I recall correctly... it's been a while now... I have no clue what disturbed actions you were imagining...
kropking 1 year ago
@kropking oh relax you over analyzing fuck. Religious brainwashing??? I'm an atheist, and have no fear of my emotions. I wanna kiss you, you little beauty? Really? With a line like that you are either french or a child predator. I'm hoping french, good people really. Pick one buddy! This is a false dichotomy I am forcing upon you!
I have a secret kropking, creepy guys rule. I wanna fuck you, you dank grotesque twat.
Humanure22 1 year ago
@Humanure22 Actually, I am half French... not that it matters, because saying what I said would have nothing to do with that at all. And I'm not over-analyzing, my brain just works this way naturally. I didn't choose for my mind to work this way, and I'm not sorry that you feel threatened by it.
kropking 1 year ago
@Humanure22 And being an atheist has nothing to do with not being brainwashed by religion. If you live in a society dominated by dogma, you could very well adopt some of their ideals without even realizing it. Prudish tendencies being one of those effects. Which you CLEARLY exhibit. Or perhaps you're not getting laid and you feel jealous of men who don't have a problem talking to women? Or maybe... you just hate that I had the highest rated comment. Looks like the majority agreed with me...
kropking 1 year ago
@kropking hahahahah, my my, I am astounded you haven't realized that I am just pulling your leg, I really didn't care about what you said, it didn't effect me at all. I am also amazed by how much you assume about people you have never met. I saw the comment and posted creepy as a funny little joke. Maybe you didn't find it funny, it is possible no one else found it funny either.
Humanure22 1 year ago
@kropking As well, being an atheist and a skeptic has everything to do with not being indoctrinated by stupid unfounded belief. I am very aware of cultural influence on the growing subconscious, as a anthropology and psychology nut. Another thing you should know about me to aid your understanding of my comments, is that I am a comedian, I take the piss out of people all the time, because it is funny. Usually, people have enough a sense of humor to realize it's a joke, and laugh at it...
Humanure22 1 year ago
@Humanure22 Yeah, I noticed that you believe you're funny... but what you failed to realize while you were patting yourself on the back is that I was neither amused nor impressed by your reckless ramblings. Perhaps I over-reacted in some people's view, but after what I've endured my whole life, at this point, I'm way beyond fed up with that condesceding, chastising bullshit from closed-minded dupes, whether or not you actually meant it.
kropking 1 year ago
@kropking I could care less if you found it funny. I would however, be impressed by your ability to laugh at yourself. Honestly I will apologize, had I known you were such an over emotional child I would have spared you my single word comment.
We have all had problems in life, things that trigger transgressed pain, but not being able to laugh about those things is the worst stance you could possibly take. Just relax, if you want an intelligent girl like this, learn to keep your cool.
Humanure22 1 year ago
@Humanure22 Oh, and thanks for the advice on women, goofy nuts. Even though I already have more than enough smart, sweet, and beautiful women in my life... sheesh... what would I do without you? Moron.
I'm pretty sure I'm doing alright with the ladies, last time I checked. Condescending prick. I'm done with this worthless bickering. Go ahead and have the last word, if you must.
kropking 1 year ago
@kropking hahahah, I really wish you wouldn't end our sweet little conversation. The way you project yourself towards others is just delicious. I'll admit I was just using your replies as fun day to day laugh, but I am sorry if I offended you, you seem like a level headed individual. Actually I'm sure if we were to meet in real life, our interaction would be much more pleasant than this blither.
Humanure22 1 year ago
@Humanure22 And it's pretty fucked up that you'd try to make me the butt of your little unfunny joke based on something I said that purely came from the heart, Mr. Comedian. Oh ha ha ha... yes, this guy telling a girl that he thinks she's cute is such a comical event! Oh man! How hilarious! ...???... I don't see a joke. You're not funny at all.
Don't quit your day job, man... unless you're a stand-up comedian, in which case you should quit immediately. :)
kropking 1 year ago
@kropking No offense, but I will take my comedic advice from some one who has a sense of humor, not some emotionally crippled twat who is still whining about the fact that I jokingly called him creepy. Sir you have not just tapped in to your emotion, they are the marionette pulling your strings. You can't even stand back and giggle for a moment. You apparently enjoy playing the victim, because the big bad man on the internet said A SINGLE WORD that you didn't like.
Humanure22 1 year ago
@Humanure22 I have a sense of humor, you're just not funny. What about that aren't you comprehending? Plus, have you noticed how hypocritical your posts are? Whining about me whining, saying that whining is for kids. Cool.
Funny thing though, I wasn't whining. Just letting you know what an unfunny, egomaniacal, annoying pseudo-intellectual you are. I laugh all day long, most people even say I goof off too much. Not that you would know, of course. P.S. - The saying is, "couldn't care less". ;)
kropking 1 year ago
Here's a better Hitler quote;
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
Feralus69 2 years ago
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in his might and seized the scourge to drive out of the temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight for the world against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand yeas, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this...
-Hitler Munich on 12 April 1922
Feralus69 2 years ago
Hitler killed Jews in the name of Jesus? Wait, so you're taking Hitler as the speaker of what a Christian is over Jesus? (lol) I'm sorry, but do you smoke marijuana often? Think about it (yeah, I know it's hard for you), why would Jesus (a Jew) want someone to kill (Jesus prohibited murder and even anger against people) to mass murder jews? Yup, your reason is what leads to countless millions of deaths, I love your logic, it's entertaining.
ogirv101 2 years ago
Hitler killed Jews because he blamed them for killing Jesus, you can even look it up yourself. I never said that Hitler was the speaker of all of Christianity, you just tried to put words into my mouth. I'm happy that you think logic is entertaining, maybe someday you might realize that it is logic that keeps you alive contrary to what you may believe. I never said that Jesus condoned what Hitler did either, I only said that Hitler killed jews in the name of Christianity and god, which is true.
Feralus69 2 years ago
Hot atheists unite!
Feralus69 2 years ago
God and Empirical Logic.
Matter or God?
Take your choice!
Some brainless scientists regard matter as independent and imagine that it has itself gained this freedom and elaborated the laws that rule over it.
But how can they believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
NO Pseudo-Scientific Demagoguery!
1tabligh 2 years ago
"NO Pseudo-Scientific Demagoguery!"
I dont get it, are you for or agenst religion?
Science do know were atoms come from, religion does not!
daarco2 2 years ago
God and Empirical Logic.
Materialism looks at the world with one eye *closed* and, as a result, is unable to answer numerous questions!
Materialism imagines that lowly objects are the source for the emergence of higher objects without troubling to ascertain whether the higher, in fact, exists at the level of the lower. If lowly matter is unable even at the highest stage of its development, namely thought and reflection— ....
1tabligh 2 years ago
either to create itself or to violate any of the laws that rule over it, it follows ineluctably that it is unable to create other beings and the laws regulating them. How, then, can it be believed that lowly matter should engage in the creation and origination of higher beings or have the power to bestow existence on lofty phenomena?
1tabligh 2 years ago
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I think the issue may be more genetic than this man (yes, he is a man) realises.
If it weren't for religious people, humans wouldn't be able to sustain their culture, they would die out due to insufficient reproduction.
Thus we see people who adhere to religion reproducing more, and thus selecting for religious adherence.
Feel free to copy this message.
comedytracker 2 years ago
Atheism rejects morality, it lives in a metaphysical naturalistic world were truth is subjective and there is no purpose in the creation in an objective view. Atheism takes everything from menaing to morals down to an individual level, meaning anything could be anything. People ususally claim Atheism has no dogma, but it does pressupose the metaphysical naturalsitic dogma that is a logical consequence of the non-existance of God.
ogirv101 2 years ago
No, it doesn't you have the same agruments whenever you post and none of them are valid or even thought through. You just have shown you don't know what dogma is, and there is no consequence of the non-existence of god, you just think so based on nothing.
Feralus69 2 years ago
@Feralus69:
What?
ogirv101 2 years ago
You said that atheism rejects morality, where do you base this assertion?
Feralus69 2 years ago
@Feralus69:
In Atheism the Universe is mere chemical and physical reactions, just atoms and the void as Democritus would say. They are blind forces governed by mere chance, there is no purpose in the Universe. Being no purpose, there is no morality, just flawed thinking of human beings, in which they fight for authority to prove that they're law or ethical morals are right. In Atheism morals are either meaningless and non-existant.
ogirv101 2 years ago
So the fact that we get our morals on personal experience and the society we are in makes absolutely no impact on an atheists morals? And saying "chance" is a bastardization of survival of the fittest or cosmology. Being an atheist doesn't all of a sudden mean that we have no morals, and just because we don't believe everything we're told without evidence doesn't mean we're bad people. Atheists have been shown to have more "morals" than christians shown by demographics inthe in the prison system
Feralus69 2 years ago
@Feralus69:
Yes, the society you live in creates your morals, but why do you follow your morals? The question is why not how, if you've been paying any attention. Atheism has no reason to follow morals, unless the Atheist is ignorant of any critique of his basis on morals, in which his morals come from an already moral society.
No, you're right, it doesn't mean you don't have morals. It just menas you have no reason to follow them. Also, you made a causation/corellation fallacy.
ogirv101 2 years ago
"Yes, the society you live in creates your morals, but why do you follow your morals?"
Because a society cannot properly function without the persons in the society following rules to make a stable society. If we all killed eachother it wouldn't be a stable society and wouldn't last very long. That is the main reason anyone follows modern morality, not because some fictitious deity said so, if that was the case in christianity women would still have no rights and we would still have slaves.
Feralus69 2 years ago
@Feralus69:
So you're doing it for society? You follow morals for the society? Is that it? I don't think a mass murderer really cares about society, so it really doesn't matter nor does it change anything.
Furthermore, because Christianity exists women have rights and slavery is abolished, have you even read anything about the history of Christianity (and no not from a biased idiot website)?
ogirv101 2 years ago
Yep, and those morals put that murderer in jail. No, because Christianity exists slavery was established in america same with sexism (ever read your own bible and the history of colonies?).
Feralus69 2 years ago
The Bible encourages sexism? Mind poitning out where the Bible encourages sexism? Furthermore, if you took a theology class, you would probably have an awnser to your claims. In fact you don't need to take a theology class, you need just to think about it in a theological perspective, but since you don't, and you only think from one side and never think from another perspective, I don't blame you for your nescience on theolgoical matters.
ogirv101 2 years ago
A few examples of sexism in the bible:
1Corinthians 14
1 Timothy 2
I don't need to take a "theology" class to back up my claims, it's literally all common sense. The theological side is people trying to say they know something to which they cannot possibly know, now why would I go try to learn how to do that?
Feralus69 2 years ago
@Feralus69:
If there more religious in jials than non-religious (which I can argue, especially because religious doesn't equal belief in God, almost everyone believes in God and are not religious), it wouldn't matter. You're making a causation/corellation fallacy. Furthermore, it has nothing to do with the actions or morals of people at all, but wether they have reasons to follow morals in the first place, you're being ignorant and straying from the subject, stay on task!
ogirv101 2 years ago
I am making so such fallacy, you implied that atheism has no reason to follow morality, therefore using your own reasoning there should be more atheists on par with the atheists overall population in jail than Christians or any other religion, which in fact shows that atheists have the lowest crime rate within it's population. I am no straying in anyway, I am just using your own reasoning to show you how rediculous and backwards it really is.
Feralus69 2 years ago
@Feralus69:
No, because reality is that God gave us morality, and most Atheists don't question morality, they just blindly follow what their society thinks is moral. Also, that's not my reasoning, I don't commit causation/corellation fallacies, but if you want me to? Sure, I'll use your reasoning. Since the worst mass murderers of all time were Atheists, then all Atheists are mass murderers. The same goes for you with Christians, even though they contradict their belief system.
ogirv101 2 years ago
Again, there was morality before christianity, before the man made invention of the christian god. And even if morality was somehow given to us, which it isn't, by a deity what amkes you think it was your particular deity and not one of the countless others? Yes, if society deems it moral then as a society it is, same with the opposite, that is how slavery was abolished. No atheist mass murderers did what they did in the name of atheism, all religious ones did theirs in the name of religion.
Feralus69 2 years ago
Yes, there was morality before Christianity, proving the Adam and Eve allegorical story, but before the idea of the existance of God, there was no justification for it. Once again, you're straying from the original point, I'm not asking about the oriigns, or who is moral or who is not, I'm asking WHY IS MORALITY JUSTIFIABLE? Anything that doesn't pertain to the actual question, from now on, will be ignored.
ogirv101 2 years ago
That's quite a leap saying that morality before Christianity is proof of Adam and Eve, Just the same as saying since my cat is orange and white proves that Atlantis exists and still lives, do you not see the absurdity of that statement? "Human" morality WAS around before the existence of your god, it's been proven. And for the third time, morality is justifiable because if it wasn't then society would implode, it is needed for a stable human existence.
Feralus69 2 years ago
Nope, I don't see any absurdity in that statement, the same way you don't think relativism is absurd. My God has always existed, he started morality, the concpetion of human beings of my God did not come till later, why does this matter? Morality is justifiable, how? I'm not sure if what you're calling morality is in fact morality.
So anything that keeps a society stable, it's justifiable? The same way Saddam Hussein tried to keep his country stable with mass murder?
ogirv101 2 years ago
According to you your god has always exited, but you have no proof to back up that baseless assertion. He started morality, according to the bible, with blood sacrifice, slavery, sexism, genocide, infanticide, and attrocities of war. That, in modern society, is NOT moral no matter how many times you say it is. I've already pointed out how morality is justifiable again and again, if you still don't get it reread my previous posts answering it, I really don't want to repeat myself over and over.
Feralus69 2 years ago
If I have no proof to back it up? I have philosophical proof, countless argument from contingency, teleology, cosmollogical, arguments from reason, arguments form morality, arguments from truth. They are philosophical mainly, but teleological are mainly scientific based. I'm not going to speak about it here, talk to me in PM because 500 characters isn't enough.
Blood sacrifice? Sexism? Slavery? Wow, so many assertions form bias idiocy, PM me, and stop making assertions.
ogirv101 2 years ago
No, you have skeptical proof based on nothing then try to pass it off as absolute truth. I have the fact that all societies have had to have a moral code in order to flourish and/or survive, it is well documented even outside of humanity. Ie baboons as a group attack an alligator that snatches a young even though they know the young will be dead. Give me one cosmological argument that proves your side. I am not making assertions, I can give you the exact parts in the bible where these are.
Feralus69 2 years ago
The ability to survive isn't based on moral code, it's based on ruthless lack of morality. Is it moral to love your enemies? If it is, then societies would have been destroyed everytime they embraced morality. Is it moral to forgive? Then there would be no one in jail. Societies have to be harsh, not moral, to survive. Baboons love their enemies or do they attack them until their face doesn't exist anymore?
ogirv101 2 years ago
"The ability to survive isn't based on moral code"
Yes it is, again no matter how many times you repeat a lie it doesn;t make it true. Our early ancestors realized that if they were nice to their family members or another tribe, that member or tribe would have a high chance of being nice back, makes absolutely perfect sense no matter which way you look at it. Societies have to be harsh to those that oppose the moral code or society would inherntly fall apart, like i said.
Feralus69 2 years ago
Christians also do NOT love their enemies, they attack atheists for not wanting a specific religion in office to keep things fair to everyone, they attack other religions because it isn't the same as theirs, and they attack progression by science. How is that love thy enemy?
Feralus69 2 years ago
I'm done here good day. There is no reason to speak with a person who wants to be 'right' over finding truth, a person who relishes in 'looking good' in front of everyone over deep inside having truth, a person who is bound by recalcitrance and ignorance to change.
ogirv101 2 years ago
I don't need to look good in front of others, you make me look good in front of others so thanks. No one is alive "knowing" that there is a truth deep inside of them that your religion is right, it's who you can indoctrinate instead of educate. Ignorance to take non substantiated claims over evidence and proof is something no rational thinking person would ever do and I truly am sorry that you have chosen to take that step into that world. "Pray for me, I'll think for you"
Feralus69 2 years ago
You have NOTHING that is based on science because science canot comment on the supernatural, but you seem not to know this, I will not take it to PMs because it is more fun watching you make a fool of yourself publicly.
Feralus69 2 years ago
If you have exact parts of the Bible (if you give me OT, argue with a Rabbi (which I'm sure would easily refute you)) PM me.
Yes, science can comment on the supernatural, it can indrectly, it can also help us with logical argumentation. Also, if you don't want to PM me, then I will be forced to believe that you care more about your appearence to other people, than to finding truth. What is the point of speaking to you then? There is none, you don't search truth.
ogirv101 2 years ago
Ok, so you do not believe in the old testament, so you don't believe in the ten commandments or the flood or creation or adam and eve...good to know. So, as for NT, Matthew 18:7-9, titus 2:9.
NO, SCIENCE CANNOT COMMENT ON THE SUPERNATURAL BECAUSE IT ISN'T DEMONSTRABLE!!!!!! EVER!!!!
You cannot ever use science to prove the bible or it's claims unless the claim is something that can be tested, like the flood which has been disproven, oh wait you don't believe in the OT, never mind.
Feralus69 2 years ago
@Feralus69 Lol not demonstrateable.... then it isnt real think about what you said....not demonstrateable thats a riot lol
sulthus 2 years ago
@sulthus
How is what i said a riot? Demonstrate in a controlled environment that the supernatural is real, if you cannot then it is you who is the riot...."lol".
By the way "demonstrateable" is not a word.
Feralus69 2 years ago 2
@Feralus69 Uhhh you said and i quote "NO, SCIENCE CANNOT COMMENT ON THE SUPERNATURAL BECAUSE IT ISN'T DEMONSTRABLE!!!!!! EVER!!!!" I was just using your word....
If you cant empirically demonstrate somthing, then there is no way for it to be real. Any demonstration would be poor empirical evidence.
sulthus 2 years ago
@sulthus
Um.... so you agree with me? Demonstrable isn't "demonstrateable", use words that exist.
My original comment stands, the supernatural is not demonstrable and science cannot comment on the supernatural.
I fail to see your objection or are you just agreeing with me in some weird way?
Feralus69 2 years ago
@Feralus69 Hey if you want to harp my dyslexia, cure it.
No im saying that anything that cant be demonstrated dosent exzist.
sulthus 2 years ago
@sulthus
So you're agreeing with me that the supernatural cannot be demonstrated to our current knowledge?
You are confusing the hell out of me.
Feralus69 2 years ago
@Feralus69 No, im saying, simply, that if somthing cant be demonstrated it is not real....there is nothing which cannot be demonstrated, if it cant, it dosent exzist.
sulthus 2 years ago
@Feralus69:
I'm wiating for an actual awnser. You follow morality to keep society together? Why should one care about society in the first place?That's morality acting on you, you're using morality to prove morality, that's circular reasoning.
ogirv101 2 years ago