It's a shame that Ian McKellum did not play Albus Dumbledore as well. He would have given that character life and dominated the screen the way Alan Rickman did with Snape. He truly was brilliant playing Gandalf -- he was pivotal in keeping the story moving.
@soukupb i dont think that they could make a movie of the silmarillion because first of all they are all ready making the hobbit with the little money they have left nd second of all the silmarillion is kind of just history not a story. it has no dialogue. they would have to alter the story
One can see that SIr Mckellen is one of the good old school Shakespearian stage
actors - you can hear every word he says even though he is whispering. Brilliant acting like that is rare nowadays. Mortensen is also excellent, but in these movies Bernard Hill, Ian Mckellen and Christopher Lee are in a class of their own.
Sauron gets his *human* shape back without the Ring and is in the fight at the Black Gate. Then Frodo destorys it as Aragon kills Sauron, imploding him.
Sauron has an army quite possibly in the millions; Gandalf does not command a single soldier, and yet Gandalf has the superior military strategy. He understands that war is a matter of intelligence, communication and momentum - NOT numbers.
No, Sauron the Necromancer of Dul-Goldur took a physical form, but was over-powered and "Killed" by the Elves of Mirkwood.
Falconmaster08:
If you want to see more Haradhrim, check out Rome total war: LOTR total war. The Haradhrim are well, quite weak by foot, but they have the giant oliphaunts.
Check wikipedia for that. I think it was a jewel that Morgoth wore on his head. Anyone who wished for a certain she-elf to be his wife, would have to go on a quest to acquire this. Cannot remember her name though.
The Silmarils were jewels created by Feanor, one of the Noldor. You're thinking of Beren and Luthien who went on a quest to reclaim the Silmaril from Morgoth.
Her name was Luthien. She fell in love with a man named Beren, and to keep them from being together, her father Thingol sent him on an impossible mission: to retrive one of the Silmarils from Morgoth's iron crown.
Also, Luthien was not just a "she-elf". She was also half Maia. Her mother was Melian, an angelic creature who existed with Eru before time and creation itself.
Th silmarillion is a collection of tales that relate to historic events that took place in middle earth during the times of Melkor and the early bloodline of Numenor. Well worth a look, just as the rest of the tales regarding the war between the Eldar and Melkor and his servant Sauron, not to mention the history of Numenor.
Ok. In the Alkallabeth (chapter in the Silmarillion) it is made clear that, after the downfall of Numenor, Sauron could not take any form that was able to fool someone about his evil nature. In the War of the Ring it appears that Sauron embodied himself generally as a lidless eye, but Gollum's torture and Pippen's confrontation with him indicate he was able to take other forms than the Eye. There is no question that "the Eye" as shown in the movies is an invention of the filmmakers, a good one.
Dude? you read the Silmarillion? I always wanted to, but never found the book, and when i found it i was too lazy to read it, it's very difficult, Tolkien was hell of a genius :o
but was it just in the film that saruman, or somebody said, that he cannot yet take physical form? cuz his spirit was able to do things, like carry the ring in the downfall, and logically use the palantir.
this doesnt go with this movie but the two towers i have to say im disapointed because wildmen were at Helms Deep with uruk hai and i did not see anything with wildmen associated at Helms Deep
one has to be very childish to argue about sauron's portray, when even tolkien's experts addimit his very unclear about his description of Sauron throught the novels. Jackson just choose one of the many possibilities.
JasonVoorhees6661, if you knew the character inside out you would've know that the eye is the image most people in middle earth associate with Sauron. hence his form being the eye in the film.
I mean, why know a character inside out just to hold on to some crap details...
I will say again the eye was not one of sauronsphysical appereances yesit had some association with sauron but for jackson tosit there and reduce sauron to some formless eyeball that in ROTK was a lighthouse.give me physical jagged armor 10footsauron any day of the week. like I said to make sauron an actual force that makeshim the truedark lord the peak of baradur should be bear, I would find a formless sauron that is in the skys of mordor watching his land a far more feared sauron then the eye.
it does lol, i have the extended trilogy and they're so much longer than the originals - but it's worth it :) as well as totally new scenes, they've put extra things in original scenes, that adds to the length too
haradwaith is south of mordor, lots of desert. easterlings are by the sounds of it from the east. in the movie they don't bother to distinguish them, as its not really important anyway.
okay thanks. i think its quite interesting, because it's only recently that i found out about humans besides gondorians, rohirrim, and the men of bree in middle earth. i had no idea there were men supporting sauron lol.
the easterlings come from the other side of mordor - the east - and haradrim come from the south. but also, easterlings are the ones in gold armour seen marching into mordor in Two Towers, and haradrim are the archer people with the Mumakil.
It was way more than 15,000. I think there was about 6,000 men defending Minas Tirith and 6,000 men in a castle like Minas Tirith would have thrashed 15,000 orcs.
i think minas tirith soldiers are about equal 2 1 orc but in the battle of minas tirith they were shit cus their steward(denathor) had gone flippin mental and they didnt no who 2 listen 2 gandalf or denathor and yh in my earlier comment i was rong there were 300 thousand orcs and 18,000 hadrim and i cant remember about the dundlings but they got killed b4 they even reached minas tirith by the undead.
if you actaully didnt think of yourself as a know it all, you would know that they call him the white tiger.(they even scream that when he saves the osgiliath rangers from the nazgul)
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its gandalf, but yeah i agree it is pretty confusing. i also think why did tolkein make sauron and sarumans names so similar!! bit lazy surely, what happened? imagination dried up!
it's all to do with the languages he invented. obviously the 2 must have similar names at this point,esp as they are similar, though they do have other names, such as sarumans other name is curunir, and sauron as annatar in his angelic form, and gorthaur the cruel. its just that we know them best as sauron and saruman.
he probably did; i haven't read about all of the races he created, but the elves, men, dwarves and orcs wouldve been the most essential and intersting to him, and he developed them more. in the movie the differentiation or inclusion of one of them is not really necessary.
It is like naming a child in the real world. You probably know at least 10 different people with your first name in the world (although there are undoubtedly a lot more than 10). Well, both Saruman and Sauron were of ther Maia, so their names are pretty close. Kinda of like Arathorn and Aaragorn, Gimli/Gloin, Celeborn/Celebrian, Boromir/Faramir.
yeh, but its not th real world and tolkien created middle earth and so could give any name he wanted, it was a chopice to name them similarly and not something he had to do and i think for people new to the books or the films it can be quite confusing. dont get me wrong though, i love lord of the rings.
oh that is a fact sauron was never the eye. and I will say it time and time again the biggest mistake was sauron not making an appearence at the black gates.
im going to disagree. the only way that Sauron could have taken a physical shape is if he had the Ring back, which he didnt. so if he had appeared at the Black Gate, it would have looked chessy and would have taken away from the difficulty of the Quest.
so you believe the peter jackson crap that he was the eye. I know sauron character inside and out and sauron in the books did have a body. gollums famous quotes four fingers on the black hand. cheesy are you mad I saw that scene and seeing how sauron was fighting at the black gates made lord of the rings more satisfying and it made more sence. and to be honnest aragorn will be remembered has a king who was never tested while his past kings all had to face the dark lord in the flesh.
You are wrong: Sauron did have a physical form during the LOTR. Tolkien made that clear in one of his Letters. It's also clear because of the comment Gollum made:
`Yes, He has only four on the Black Hand, but they are enough,' TT- The Black Gate is Closed.
Denethor: He will not come save only to triumph over me when all is won. He uses others as his weapons. So do all great lords, if they are wise, Master Halfling. The Siege of Gondor ROTK.
@chrissyluvhorsey: Jackson contradicted himself by showing Sauron's non-Eye physical form in the Aragorn palantir scene.
and think how difficult it would be for a palantir to rotate by itself, without a handler, or a servant having to substitute the place of Sauron and man the object with orders from the Dark Lord.
the undoing of the ring meant Sauron could not take concrete form afterwards; thus its existence allowed him to assume form.
@chrissyluvhorsey actually in the film they were suppose to put Sauron in shape at the black gate trying to kill aragorn, instead they they replaced him with a giant troll with a sword...
@chrissyluvhorsey that has always been a myth, sauron did have a body gollom explained that in the books 4 fingers on the black hand, and he did say it was sauron. but he was to arrogant to come fourth.He saw aragorn and co has unworthy for him to even come out to battle, he felt he did not need to battle has in his mind he was winning. He thought aragorn had the ring, because sauron thought the ring would do to aragorn like isildur fell victim to, or sauron thought his army's would overrun them
@JasonVoorhees6661 yes, gollum did say that sauron had 4 hands; however this was common knowledge to the ppl who studied the old legends of isildur and his defeat of sauron. and sauron was very worried about aragorn-he knew he was isildurs heir and that he potentially had the power to destroy him. so for sauron aragorn was indeed a very big threat
@chrissyluvhorsey sauron had a body in some shape or form has the eye was never his form.He managedto rebuild it after his defeat years later. But sauron was only worried before hisdefeat of the palanir fields. sauron saw himself above fear, he saw this threat has very minorOne reasonwhy he never came forth, he could have if he wanted to but he thought at the black gates,his armys would crush his enemys,or hethought aragornhad the ring and he thought aragorn would suffer the same fate hasilsidur
Well, you're wrong. Sauron had a physical body. As an Ainu, he had the ability to build, rebuild, and adjust one whenever he felt the need, albeit with certain limitations. The Ring was tied to his life-essence, not his manifestation. Had he been at the Black Gate, he could have easily killed Aragorn, Gandalf, and a large chunk of the assembled host. Then again, his armies could have done that for him, and Dark Lords can't go about personally greeting the rabble.
@Deatheater4444 'Easily' is a stretch. Could have slain them, yes. But the risk of his body being broken again was great, and with it, the diminishing of his power for another stretch of time. That and the potential for pain. Sauron and Morgoth both avoided leading from the front out of practical cowardice. And also, as you said, Dark Lords don't go about meeting the rabble.
@Deatheater4444 that is the problem see when they watch the movie's. No one does their research on sauron and go look up the books. This is the same guy in the third age that rebuilt his tower in such a short space of time,built an army of 300,000 plus that does not include the men the mamakai and the ships. He was a little weaker but not has weak has many think. Many also forget sauron never did much fighting in the second age, if they did a film in ilsidurs time he would have hardly been in it
@FYATroll - it was made clear he had a body, half gods like sauron who are maia's can take some sort of form. The eye was not one of them, gollom met sauron in the flesh. Even his death is different from the books than the film. But jackson's obbsesion with sauron's lack of appearence in the books, that jackson never really took what made sauron such a feared character in the books, and it was not put into the film in a effective way.
@JasonVoorhees6661 just a minor detail, but sauron is not a half-god, yes he is a maia but they were servants of the vala, while powerful yes, they aren't gods, more like, angels, where as the vala would be more god-like, with Eru as their head...
@dizzle654 probably you are right, but the ring and bara-dur are symbols of sauron wanting control and more power. While melkor wanted to destroy which makes sauron more cunning. The ring became sauron's weakness but he became so powerful in the second age, losing the ring never came into sauron's mind reason why he was that powerful, the ring gave him more control over his alies and enemys. But it was proven sauron became more powerful at the end of the second age than melkor in the first
@dizzle654 the films really did a bad job on how sauron was seen. They do not do justice on sauron's ability to adjust without the ring and these PPL say they grew up loving the books, well they did not do much research on sauron in the books in the third age
@JasonVoorhees6661 Well, in a way they did, The maia, while in arda must have a form, whether elvish or other. Sauron had power but could only manifest himself through the eye. The ring and the tower represent only tools through which he could manifest his power, conduits, if you will. the ring was referred throughout the books and trilogy as a entitiy of itself. they represented his great power at the end of the second age, but by the third age, he was all but impitent in his physical ability.-
@JasonVoorhees6661 but that is only in the physical, when he manifested himself through the eye he could bend the will of many races of middle earth, even almost, if not, killing pippin just through the palantir. so in its own way it showed his power. on top of that many of the peoples who spoke of sauron spoke with great fear even, so saurons power was indeed given the respect it deserved. They spoke of his power in the same way that his power is. not physical, but nevertheless present.
@dizzle654 - The eye could only be seen by a certain number of PPL but not all. For 2 scanario's would have made sense, have sauron appear at the gates has he could have easily showed up has he did have a body. Or do the death has seen in the books, his shadow bursts out of bara-dur I am sure he even attacks and then he explodes. But do not forget the eye was a medephore it was never his actual form, it was basically a big giant palantir.
@xxBlazionxx He propably didn't need the ring to manifest a physical body, as Gollum saw him during his torture. And indeed, he likely had some sort visible form (albeit perhaps not a real body) as the Necromancer.
@chrissyluvhorsey But he never showed up at the Black Gate in the Movie ore the book ore the extended edition. caus they say it in the book and the movies. he need's the ring to get a physical shape again.;-)
@JasonVoorhees6661 actually, sauron lost his body and the ability to shapeshift when Illuvatar flooded the island of Numenor. Without his armor he has no shape.
@shadesilverwing0 - he has a shape, but his physical appearence was more of a monster. He lost the ability to take an angelic form, but through out the ages he had the ability to take physical form, he was just to arogant to show up in the 3rd age. All maia's never lose their body's
@JasonVoorhees6661 all Ainur (Valar and maiar) are spirits "their number is not known, the maiar have seldom appeared in form visible to Elves and Men" from the Valaquenta. They can use their powers to take physical form, but sauron poured most of his power into the one ring, he wasn't strong enough to manifest in physical form with out the ring. Thats kind of the whole point of the story...
@MrDonkeyburger the books do say sauron did take physical form, gollom came in contact with sauron 4 fingers on the black hand. Heck even in the extended version of the ROTK, sauron does have a body, has aragorn uses the palantir to contact sauron, we see sauron for 3 to 4 seconds showing aragorn his possible future if sauron wins
@chrissyluvhorsey nope he can take shape without the ring but he is merly a shadow of himself the eye and nazgul have power from him that if taken back he would be able to make himself take shape but he would be weaker than even gandalf
@chrissyluvhorsey That's not supported by the novel, where he's described physically more than once, especially by Gollum who states "he has only four fingers on the black hand".
@Pilaf1984 Gollum's mind has deteriorated. Part of his closeness with the Ring enables him to have a special relationship with Sauron; he knows him better than gandalf or the elves even, and knows what physical forms he can take.
sauron could have easily made an appearence at the black gate he choose not to. like I said I could live with sauron not appearing if the eye was not shown, if jackson actually had a closer at the books like when the ring was destroyed a giant shadow of sauron bursts out of bara dur screaming before imploding. sauron would have been more mysterious if bara durs peak was bear no eye it would have made sauron more of a force and mysterious. I would rather sauron in the flesh than that lighthouse
Remember at this point Saurons like "Right... wich one of you's got it? come on, give me a clue!" And a decendant of those who have defeated Sauron a couple of times popping up and saying "oww, i might have it" puts the creepers on him. At no point does Sauron beleive its going to be destoryed, he thinks someone will take up arms against him..hence why banging on his gate and going "Me and Gandi have got a few boys together, wnt a fight?" works :-p
It has nothing to do with that. Sauron fears Aragorn because Aragorn's destiny is to become the High King of Gondor, which would unite all men against Sauron. If all men were divided, Sauron could win the war without the Ring, but without the Ring and a United front against him, he stands little chance.
The world of men was failing (the last time sauron was defeated there were still elves in large numbers and the kingdom of Gondor was pretty much in its prime) Gondor at the time of Aragorn was said to have a population problem,(in the book anyway) Remeber Sauron only sent part of his army to defeat them at Gondor. No way was a united party of men going to defeat Sauron without the ring There just wernt the numbers.
Right, Gondor alone couldn't defeat Sauron. But as High King, Sauron fears that Aragorn could unite ALL free men against him, which could severely hamper his chances, considering he didn't know where the Ring was. The army sent to attack Minas Tirith was the bulk of his army, more than 200,000 strong, remember there were only 10,000 orcs left in Mordor after that army left.
Yea that makes sense but considering Saurons armies were attacking all free men/dwarves/elves at around the same time (Hence why none came to help save Rohan...That and Denathor not calling for aid) I still dnt really see how a united front could work if all the others were under attack? (maybe i missiterpreted the book, Q.Does Tolkien give the number of men that traveled to the black gate? i cnt recall if he did or not.. and I cnt remeber where my copy is. :-s
Yes, about 6000 men arrived to the Black Gate, but it is also said that they left Minas Tirith better defended that how it was before the Battle of Pelennor Fields, and they also left a garrison in Osgiliath, therefore only 6000 men arrived at the black gates...and to Samprasisthebest there were much more orcs on Mordor, not only 10.000..
Argoleth, its been a while since I've read the books, so I don't know exactly how many orcs were left in Mordor in the books after Pelennor Fields, but in the movie Gandalf says after the battle "There are now 10,000 orcs between Frodo and Mount Doom"
Yeah that's true and forgive if my comment sounded agressive, but in the book Gandalf also said after Pelennor Fields that the army was just one of the many that Sauron had, so at least there were millions of orcs left in Mordor.
It wasn't about the numbers. Once he knew Aragorn was Isildur's heir, the rightful King of Gondor and Arnor, Sauron feared that Aragorn HAD the Ring, and would seek to use it to supplant him.
Quoting from the LotR:TT-Book I, Chapter 5: The White Rider. "He is in great fear, not knowing what mighty one may suddenly appear, wielding the Ring, and assailing him with war, seeking to cast him down and take his place. That we should wish to cast him down and have no one in his place is not a thought that occurs to his mind. That we should try to destroy the Ring itself has not yet entered into his darkest dream."
2:03 now I won't have to turn him into something unnatural.... he was thinking it.
AnnaS1n 1 week ago
It's a shame that Ian McKellum did not play Albus Dumbledore as well. He would have given that character life and dominated the screen the way Alan Rickman did with Snape. He truly was brilliant playing Gandalf -- he was pivotal in keeping the story moving.
bwashinski 2 weeks ago
Gandi? ha, that's something maybe Gandalf's sweetheart would nickname him. "Oh Gandi! You've brought be lembas chocolates!"nomnomnom
ViciousWolf3000 1 month ago 4
you retard its not Gandi its Gandalf!
MsUpsilon 1 month ago 3
I always liked how Peter Jackson had Gandalf act as a narrator for time to time to bring everyone up to speed. These movies simply rule
joeylodes 2 months ago 4
I really really really hope they make a movie about The Simarilion.
soukupb 3 months ago in playlist More videos from lordabe
@soukupb i dont think that they could make a movie of the silmarillion because first of all they are all ready making the hobbit with the little money they have left nd second of all the silmarillion is kind of just history not a story. it has no dialogue. they would have to alter the story
ElectricFish100 3 months ago
OMG why was this deleted from the original? This ties in so much!!!
CallieWaggers 3 months ago 4
One can see that SIr Mckellen is one of the good old school Shakespearian stage
actors - you can hear every word he says even though he is whispering. Brilliant acting like that is rare nowadays. Mortensen is also excellent, but in these movies Bernard Hill, Ian Mckellen and Christopher Lee are in a class of their own.
Istariwizardjedi 4 months ago 26
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FizzyDizzyJJ 5 months ago
Gandi..?
Abbiesilk 5 months ago 2
@Abbiesilk Probably an affectionate nickname.
13BloodMoon13 5 months ago 7
@13BloodMoon13 I'll pay that.
Abbiesilk 5 months ago
@Abbiesilk You'll pay it??
I'm confuzzled...
13BloodMoon13 5 months ago
@Abbiesilk I don't think the uploader is a native English speaker, if the subtitles are anything to go by. Could be "Gandalf" in another language.
TheAle89515 3 months ago
This is the one scene I can't believe they left out. So good.
eviola11 6 months ago in playlist Lord of the rings the two towers deleted scenes
@eviola11 there's another one.... the one in the first movie which describes how the ring got into that river
only 30 seconds.... but for people who haven't read the books it could be very confusing without it
lorin1996 6 months ago
Its not "Gandi" its Gandalf
preetmendiratta 7 months ago
if mount doom is the only place where the ring can be destroyed, why doesnt sauron just destroy mount doom?
fvresonanator 7 months ago
@fvresonanator its a volcano, nothing can destroy a volcano
shadesilverwing0 7 months ago
@fvresonanator because all his weapons are forged in this mountain.
FlameOfAnor17 6 months ago
This is by far my favorite clip from the whole movie....strange but true!
vazertuche 9 months ago
what does ghandi got to do with lotr?
trebuchet21 1 year ago
Sauron's return would of made a badass alternate ending.
soukupb 1 year ago
@soukupb
I was thinking that:
Sauron gets his *human* shape back without the Ring and is in the fight at the Black Gate. Then Frodo destorys it as Aragon kills Sauron, imploding him.
chesney121 1 year ago
@chesney121 But that would be dumb caus that don't happen in the book. and he need's the ring to get hes body back.
andvas1994 10 months ago
He is a hair of Numenor and Gondor, wow, who was the king of Gondor before Numenor fell, were Numenors kings of all men ?
milansikidjo 1 year ago
this scene was pure exposition and it didn't really cover anything new
regardless it would of helped people know what was goin on
i think it should been in theatrical version
heason 1 year ago
and sauron was very handsome, why he became ugly after his deafet? with black skin?
mu11champione 1 year ago
physical form*
mu11champione 1 year ago
but why sauron didn't go out and fight at Gondor? with his physical
and it says that the ring had some of Melkor's blood and Sauron's spirit
so is it right that 70% of sauron's power in the ring? i heared some one saying it here
so he had 30% of his power, isn't that strong enough?
or he feared to go out?
mu11champione 1 year ago
@mu11champione Where did you get those numbers and the idea that Morgoth's blood was in the Ring?
Sivart343 1 year ago
Sauron was traumatized after having his fingers cut off... hence he doesn't come out and play anymore.
bigjoe777 1 year ago
In the movie they call the eye at the top of the tower The Eye of Sauron. They don't ever say "hey look it's Sauron the floaty eye".
bixsterino 1 year ago
to bad that they made it look like the eye of sauron is sauron himself xD
cloner98 1 year ago 2
I love Sam Theres no way Frodo would of made it whithout the great one!
HolyShadow180 1 year ago 3
@HolyShadow180 Dwayne Johnson?
asnlunatic 1 year ago
@asnlunatic What??? Whos that??????
HolyShadow180 1 year ago
Guys, don't you get it? "Gandi" is short for Gandalf. Stop trying to find some affiliation to Gandhi. Jeez
AMNlinkinparkfan115 1 year ago
"The heir of Numenor still lives..."
AMNlinkinparkfan115 1 year ago 3
Sauron has an army quite possibly in the millions; Gandalf does not command a single soldier, and yet Gandalf has the superior military strategy. He understands that war is a matter of intelligence, communication and momentum - NOT numbers.
edinscot56789 1 year ago
sam was arguably the hero of lotr. if it wasn't for him frodo would have quite long ago.
diuryl 1 year ago 32
@diuryl Frodo: Frodo would have never gotten far without Sam
Sam: Not I was being Serious
Frodo: So was I
jediking12 1 year ago
@diuryl he would have failed, hiding under the tree in the first one, boom, ring wratih go MINE!
PauloPelle14 1 year ago
gandi????
TheAgent181 1 year ago
Chrisstluchorsey:
No, Sauron the Necromancer of Dul-Goldur took a physical form, but was over-powered and "Killed" by the Elves of Mirkwood.
Falconmaster08:
If you want to see more Haradhrim, check out Rome total war: LOTR total war. The Haradhrim are well, quite weak by foot, but they have the giant oliphaunts.
WolfytheWolf5667 1 year ago
ghandi? lolage ive used that knickname before.
BiffaTW 1 year ago
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The Silmarils are three bright jewels created by
the great elven smith Feanor.These jewels contained within them the light of the two trees,
but Melkor,the rebelious Vala,destroyed the two
trees,and stole the jewels,and killed Feanors father Finwe.Feanor and his seven sons then
swore an oath to retreive the silmarils,and so
began the War Of The Jewels.
IF YOU GUYS WANT TO KNOW MORE YOU SHOULD READ THE BOOK!!!!
teshanovic1 1 year ago
The Silmarils are three bright jewels created by
the great elven smith Feanor.These jewels contained within them the light of the two trees,
but Melkor,the rebelious Vala,destroyed the two
trees,and stole the jewels,and killed Feanors father Finwe.Feanor and his seven sons then
swore an oath to retreive the silmarils,and so
began the War Of The Jewels.
IF YOU GUYS WANT TO KNOW MORE YOU SHOULD READ THE BOOK!!!!
teshanovic1 1 year ago 4
wats the Silmarillion?
krisroxshow 2 years ago
Check wikipedia for that. I think it was a jewel that Morgoth wore on his head. Anyone who wished for a certain she-elf to be his wife, would have to go on a quest to acquire this. Cannot remember her name though.
katsasgeorge 2 years ago
The Silmarils were jewels created by Feanor, one of the Noldor. You're thinking of Beren and Luthien who went on a quest to reclaim the Silmaril from Morgoth.
i3u7n5 2 years ago 3
Her name was Luthien. She fell in love with a man named Beren, and to keep them from being together, her father Thingol sent him on an impossible mission: to retrive one of the Silmarils from Morgoth's iron crown.
Also, Luthien was not just a "she-elf". She was also half Maia. Her mother was Melian, an angelic creature who existed with Eru before time and creation itself.
AkaneHasegawa 1 year ago
Th silmarillion is a collection of tales that relate to historic events that took place in middle earth during the times of Melkor and the early bloodline of Numenor. Well worth a look, just as the rest of the tales regarding the war between the Eldar and Melkor and his servant Sauron, not to mention the history of Numenor.
shyguy778 2 years ago 3
i love how when Gandalf finds out Sam went with Frodo, he knows Frodo will be alright.
Scottieonfire 2 years ago 18
Ok. In the Alkallabeth (chapter in the Silmarillion) it is made clear that, after the downfall of Numenor, Sauron could not take any form that was able to fool someone about his evil nature. In the War of the Ring it appears that Sauron embodied himself generally as a lidless eye, but Gollum's torture and Pippen's confrontation with him indicate he was able to take other forms than the Eye. There is no question that "the Eye" as shown in the movies is an invention of the filmmakers, a good one.
lebarosky 2 years ago
Dude? you read the Silmarillion? I always wanted to, but never found the book, and when i found it i was too lazy to read it, it's very difficult, Tolkien was hell of a genius :o
deltras 2 years ago 4
but was it just in the film that saruman, or somebody said, that he cannot yet take physical form? cuz his spirit was able to do things, like carry the ring in the downfall, and logically use the palantir.
mikese93 2 years ago
Peter Jackson really messed up by having him as a giant floating eye...
LimesNorrlandicus 2 years ago
sauron's flesh is gone but his soul lives. he's still strong. just read the fucking book. its way better than the movie.
NANDO218 2 years ago 4
@NANDO218 no it ain't
utube44333 2 years ago
this doesnt go with this movie but the two towers i have to say im disapointed because wildmen were at Helms Deep with uruk hai and i did not see anything with wildmen associated at Helms Deep
jiowars 2 years ago
one has to be very childish to argue about sauron's portray, when even tolkien's experts addimit his very unclear about his description of Sauron throught the novels. Jackson just choose one of the many possibilities.
JasonVoorhees6661, if you knew the character inside out you would've know that the eye is the image most people in middle earth associate with Sauron. hence his form being the eye in the film.
I mean, why know a character inside out just to hold on to some crap details...
OzaiFireLord 2 years ago
I will say again the eye was not one of sauronsphysical appereances yesit had some association with sauron but for jackson tosit there and reduce sauron to some formless eyeball that in ROTK was a lighthouse.give me physical jagged armor 10footsauron any day of the week. like I said to make sauron an actual force that makeshim the truedark lord the peak of baradur should be bear, I would find a formless sauron that is in the skys of mordor watching his land a far more feared sauron then the eye.
JasonVoorhees6661 2 years ago
When did that happen?
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he is also gay but still good actor
scouse180 2 years ago
removed probably cause slowed the movie too much
A1R3D3E7 2 years ago
Ian McËllen looks really good with long white hair
jewish1972 2 years ago 5
where the f else would sam go or be. lol :P
mopkid 2 years ago 2
actualy is 100.000 orcs and 12 000 men
600o rohan 5000 defenders in minas and also 1000 escape osigiliath
namtziglaa 2 years ago
Another part I didn't see until now.
Not that I find it bothersome but I don't understand why they cut parts out of movies. Oh well.
Anyway, this scene was interesting to watch.
RogueTheElfWarrior1 2 years ago
I've noticed how Tolkien often used similarities in names that made it easier to remember who followed what, or who was the son of whom.
For example: Drogo, father of Frodo. Arathorn, father of Aragorn. Sauron, corruptor of Saruman. Deagol, best friend to Smeagol. etc etc
InTheShadowOfMordor 2 years ago 3
This is still in the Special Edition isn't it?
Fenrir160202 2 years ago 3
This scene is only 2 min, they should of kept it in the movie.
cbass5511 2 years ago
I know it is only 2 mins, but there are loads of 2 minute scenes that could be added in, and in the end it would all add up.
hardrockerdave94 2 years ago
"in the end it would all add up."
it does lol, i have the extended trilogy and they're so much longer than the originals - but it's worth it :) as well as totally new scenes, they've put extra things in original scenes, that adds to the length too
falconmaster08 2 years ago
LOL, smoked!
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emjcohen 2 years ago
They is still hope, and both Sauron or Saruman are not so happy about that..
HELLINMAN 2 years ago
Sam!
love this>>"did he?...Good"
pagielme4ever 2 years ago
the orcs that attacked minas tirith were minas morgul orcs and there were around 10 -15 thousand of them
safi29 2 years ago
No there were 200.000 orcs 18.000 haradrims,30.000 easterlings
xScorpioN12x 2 years ago 2
whats the difference between easterlings and haradrim?
PsychosisFire 2 years ago
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supersmash27 2 years ago
haradwaith is south of mordor, lots of desert. easterlings are by the sounds of it from the east. in the movie they don't bother to distinguish them, as its not really important anyway.
Gawaine687 2 years ago
okay thanks. i think its quite interesting, because it's only recently that i found out about humans besides gondorians, rohirrim, and the men of bree in middle earth. i had no idea there were men supporting sauron lol.
PsychosisFire 2 years ago
the easterlings come from the other side of mordor - the east - and haradrim come from the south. but also, easterlings are the ones in gold armour seen marching into mordor in Two Towers, and haradrim are the archer people with the Mumakil.
falconmaster08 2 years ago 38
200,000 orks and uruk hai. There are 300,000 orks in Mordor at the end of the film.
StinkySchowy 2 years ago
ur rite about the morgul orcs but no the mordor orcs there were 600.000 orcs left in mordor go on tolkien gateway thats wat it says
safi29 2 years ago
It was way more than 15,000. I think there was about 6,000 men defending Minas Tirith and 6,000 men in a castle like Minas Tirith would have thrashed 15,000 orcs.
hardrockerdave94 2 years ago
i think minas tirith soldiers are about equal 2 1 orc but in the battle of minas tirith they were shit cus their steward(denathor) had gone flippin mental and they didnt no who 2 listen 2 gandalf or denathor and yh in my earlier comment i was rong there were 300 thousand orcs and 18,000 hadrim and i cant remember about the dundlings but they got killed b4 they even reached minas tirith by the undead.
safi29 2 years ago
Sometimes, I'm a little confused.
Who the heck is Mithrandir and what does he has anything to do with Gandalf?
mizzfreakster96 2 years ago
if u like lotr u shud no that mithrandir is gandalf its wat the gondorian people call him but translated in elvish
safi29 2 years ago
if you actaully didnt think of yourself as a know it all, you would know that they call him the white tiger.(they even scream that when he saves the osgiliath rangers from the nazgul)
guitarheroman61997 2 years ago
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its gandalf, but yeah i agree it is pretty confusing. i also think why did tolkein make sauron and sarumans names so similar!! bit lazy surely, what happened? imagination dried up!
alaggon 2 years ago
it's all to do with the languages he invented. obviously the 2 must have similar names at this point,esp as they are similar, though they do have other names, such as sarumans other name is curunir, and sauron as annatar in his angelic form, and gorthaur the cruel. its just that we know them best as sauron and saruman.
Gawaine687 2 years ago
i see, thanks for the info, but couldnt he have still made them a bit more different considering he invented the whole worl of middle earth?
alaggon 2 years ago
he probably did; i haven't read about all of the races he created, but the elves, men, dwarves and orcs wouldve been the most essential and intersting to him, and he developed them more. in the movie the differentiation or inclusion of one of them is not really necessary.
Gawaine687 2 years ago
It is like naming a child in the real world. You probably know at least 10 different people with your first name in the world (although there are undoubtedly a lot more than 10). Well, both Saruman and Sauron were of ther Maia, so their names are pretty close. Kinda of like Arathorn and Aaragorn, Gimli/Gloin, Celeborn/Celebrian, Boromir/Faramir.
Legolas8811 2 years ago
yeh, but its not th real world and tolkien created middle earth and so could give any name he wanted, it was a chopice to name them similarly and not something he had to do and i think for people new to the books or the films it can be quite confusing. dont get me wrong though, i love lord of the rings.
alaggon 2 years ago
mithrandir sounds better than gandalf
XrayJoooooooooolt 3 years ago
Some people think Sauron being an Eye was metaphorical but I think otherwise.
IThinkIKilledHim 3 years ago
oh that is a fact sauron was never the eye. and I will say it time and time again the biggest mistake was sauron not making an appearence at the black gates.
JasonVoorhees6661 2 years ago
im going to disagree. the only way that Sauron could have taken a physical shape is if he had the Ring back, which he didnt. so if he had appeared at the Black Gate, it would have looked chessy and would have taken away from the difficulty of the Quest.
chrissyluvhorsey 2 years ago 45
so you believe the peter jackson crap that he was the eye. I know sauron character inside and out and sauron in the books did have a body. gollums famous quotes four fingers on the black hand. cheesy are you mad I saw that scene and seeing how sauron was fighting at the black gates made lord of the rings more satisfying and it made more sence. and to be honnest aragorn will be remembered has a king who was never tested while his past kings all had to face the dark lord in the flesh.
JasonVoorhees6661 2 years ago
You are wrong: Sauron did have a physical form during the LOTR. Tolkien made that clear in one of his Letters. It's also clear because of the comment Gollum made:
`Yes, He has only four on the Black Hand, but they are enough,' TT- The Black Gate is Closed.
Denethor: He will not come save only to triumph over me when all is won. He uses others as his weapons. So do all great lords, if they are wise, Master Halfling. The Siege of Gondor ROTK.
LimesNorrlandicus 2 years ago
ive read the books 3 times and the eye is not a eye its the void in which melkor is in sauron is in his tower he put 70% of his power in the ring
steamingpoopfart 1 year ago
@steamingpoopfart what do you mean the void melkor is in? melkor was cast into the door of night after his defeat was he not?
petsaul 1 year ago
@chrissyluvhorsey: Jackson contradicted himself by showing Sauron's non-Eye physical form in the Aragorn palantir scene.
and think how difficult it would be for a palantir to rotate by itself, without a handler, or a servant having to substitute the place of Sauron and man the object with orders from the Dark Lord.
the undoing of the ring meant Sauron could not take concrete form afterwards; thus its existence allowed him to assume form.
Gollum:"he has but four on the Black Hand"
mathpianist93 1 year ago
@chrissyluvhorsey Nah the quest could have used more one on one
codafett 1 year ago
@chrissyluvhorsey actually in the film they were suppose to put Sauron in shape at the black gate trying to kill aragorn, instead they they replaced him with a giant troll with a sword...
kathen111 1 year ago
@chrissyluvhorsey that has always been a myth, sauron did have a body gollom explained that in the books 4 fingers on the black hand, and he did say it was sauron. but he was to arrogant to come fourth.He saw aragorn and co has unworthy for him to even come out to battle, he felt he did not need to battle has in his mind he was winning. He thought aragorn had the ring, because sauron thought the ring would do to aragorn like isildur fell victim to, or sauron thought his army's would overrun them
JasonVoorhees6661 1 year ago
@JasonVoorhees6661 yes, gollum did say that sauron had 4 hands; however this was common knowledge to the ppl who studied the old legends of isildur and his defeat of sauron. and sauron was very worried about aragorn-he knew he was isildurs heir and that he potentially had the power to destroy him. so for sauron aragorn was indeed a very big threat
chrissyluvhorsey 1 year ago
@chrissyluvhorsey sauron had a body in some shape or form has the eye was never his form.He managedto rebuild it after his defeat years later. But sauron was only worried before hisdefeat of the palanir fields. sauron saw himself above fear, he saw this threat has very minorOne reasonwhy he never came forth, he could have if he wanted to but he thought at the black gates,his armys would crush his enemys,or hethought aragornhad the ring and he thought aragorn would suffer the same fate hasilsidur
JasonVoorhees6661 1 year ago
@chrissyluvhorsey
Well, you're wrong. Sauron had a physical body. As an Ainu, he had the ability to build, rebuild, and adjust one whenever he felt the need, albeit with certain limitations. The Ring was tied to his life-essence, not his manifestation. Had he been at the Black Gate, he could have easily killed Aragorn, Gandalf, and a large chunk of the assembled host. Then again, his armies could have done that for him, and Dark Lords can't go about personally greeting the rabble.
Deatheater4444 1 year ago
@Deatheater4444 'Easily' is a stretch. Could have slain them, yes. But the risk of his body being broken again was great, and with it, the diminishing of his power for another stretch of time. That and the potential for pain. Sauron and Morgoth both avoided leading from the front out of practical cowardice. And also, as you said, Dark Lords don't go about meeting the rabble.
Sivart343 1 year ago
@Deatheater4444 that is the problem see when they watch the movie's. No one does their research on sauron and go look up the books. This is the same guy in the third age that rebuilt his tower in such a short space of time,built an army of 300,000 plus that does not include the men the mamakai and the ships. He was a little weaker but not has weak has many think. Many also forget sauron never did much fighting in the second age, if they did a film in ilsidurs time he would have hardly been in it
JasonVoorhees6661 1 year ago
@chrissyluvhorsey
The movie only makes it seem like he wasn't already in physical form. He was. The books make it quite clear.
FYATroll 1 year ago
@FYATroll - it was made clear he had a body, half gods like sauron who are maia's can take some sort of form. The eye was not one of them, gollom met sauron in the flesh. Even his death is different from the books than the film. But jackson's obbsesion with sauron's lack of appearence in the books, that jackson never really took what made sauron such a feared character in the books, and it was not put into the film in a effective way.
JasonVoorhees6661 1 year ago
@JasonVoorhees6661 just a minor detail, but sauron is not a half-god, yes he is a maia but they were servants of the vala, while powerful yes, they aren't gods, more like, angels, where as the vala would be more god-like, with Eru as their head...
dizzle654 11 months ago
@dizzle654 probably you are right, but the ring and bara-dur are symbols of sauron wanting control and more power. While melkor wanted to destroy which makes sauron more cunning. The ring became sauron's weakness but he became so powerful in the second age, losing the ring never came into sauron's mind reason why he was that powerful, the ring gave him more control over his alies and enemys. But it was proven sauron became more powerful at the end of the second age than melkor in the first
JasonVoorhees6661 11 months ago
@dizzle654 the films really did a bad job on how sauron was seen. They do not do justice on sauron's ability to adjust without the ring and these PPL say they grew up loving the books, well they did not do much research on sauron in the books in the third age
JasonVoorhees6661 11 months ago
@JasonVoorhees6661 Well, in a way they did, The maia, while in arda must have a form, whether elvish or other. Sauron had power but could only manifest himself through the eye. The ring and the tower represent only tools through which he could manifest his power, conduits, if you will. the ring was referred throughout the books and trilogy as a entitiy of itself. they represented his great power at the end of the second age, but by the third age, he was all but impitent in his physical ability.-
dizzle654 11 months ago
@JasonVoorhees6661 but that is only in the physical, when he manifested himself through the eye he could bend the will of many races of middle earth, even almost, if not, killing pippin just through the palantir. so in its own way it showed his power. on top of that many of the peoples who spoke of sauron spoke with great fear even, so saurons power was indeed given the respect it deserved. They spoke of his power in the same way that his power is. not physical, but nevertheless present.
dizzle654 11 months ago
@dizzle654 - The eye could only be seen by a certain number of PPL but not all. For 2 scanario's would have made sense, have sauron appear at the gates has he could have easily showed up has he did have a body. Or do the death has seen in the books, his shadow bursts out of bara-dur I am sure he even attacks and then he explodes. But do not forget the eye was a medephore it was never his actual form, it was basically a big giant palantir.
JasonVoorhees6661 11 months ago
@JasonVoorhees6661 if he needed the ring to manifest, how did he manifest as the necromancer, in a physical form, in dol guldur in mirkwood?
xxBlazionxx 10 months ago
@xxBlazionxx He propably didn't need the ring to manifest a physical body, as Gollum saw him during his torture. And indeed, he likely had some sort visible form (albeit perhaps not a real body) as the Necromancer.
DZZeborro 10 months ago
@chrissyluvhorsey But he never showed up at the Black Gate in the Movie ore the book ore the extended edition. caus they say it in the book and the movies. he need's the ring to get a physical shape again.;-)
andvas1994 10 months ago
@andvas1994 yeah ik. this is why i said he needs the Ring back to re-form his body.
chrissyluvhorsey 9 months ago
@andvas1994 - read the book, he had had a body. Gollom came in contact with sauron himself, has gollom put it 4 fingers on the black hand
JasonVoorhees6661 9 months ago
@JasonVoorhees6661 actually, sauron lost his body and the ability to shapeshift when Illuvatar flooded the island of Numenor. Without his armor he has no shape.
shadesilverwing0 7 months ago
@shadesilverwing0 - he has a shape, but his physical appearence was more of a monster. He lost the ability to take an angelic form, but through out the ages he had the ability to take physical form, he was just to arogant to show up in the 3rd age. All maia's never lose their body's
JasonVoorhees6661 7 months ago
@JasonVoorhees6661 all Ainur (Valar and maiar) are spirits "their number is not known, the maiar have seldom appeared in form visible to Elves and Men" from the Valaquenta. They can use their powers to take physical form, but sauron poured most of his power into the one ring, he wasn't strong enough to manifest in physical form with out the ring. Thats kind of the whole point of the story...
MrDonkeyburger 7 months ago
@MrDonkeyburger the books do say sauron did take physical form, gollom came in contact with sauron 4 fingers on the black hand. Heck even in the extended version of the ROTK, sauron does have a body, has aragorn uses the palantir to contact sauron, we see sauron for 3 to 4 seconds showing aragorn his possible future if sauron wins
JasonVoorhees6661 7 months ago
@chrissyluvhorsey Sauron could take physical form without the ring however he chose not to.
WeAreTheStreet 8 months ago
@chrissyluvhorsey nope he can take shape without the ring but he is merly a shadow of himself the eye and nazgul have power from him that if taken back he would be able to make himself take shape but he would be weaker than even gandalf
gogreen1418 6 months ago
@gogreen1418 The longer Sauron waits the stronger he gets. Once he's able to take physical form he'd be at equal power with gandalf.
JordiDiezN 6 months ago
@chrissyluvhorsey That's not supported by the novel, where he's described physically more than once, especially by Gollum who states "he has only four fingers on the black hand".
Pilaf1984 5 months ago
@Pilaf1984 Gollum's mind has deteriorated. Part of his closeness with the Ring enables him to have a special relationship with Sauron; he knows him better than gandalf or the elves even, and knows what physical forms he can take.
kittycrazy531 4 months ago
if sauron made a appearence at the black gate which he could not as he did not have the ring sauron would have been at minas tirith
golfisgreat123 2 years ago
sauron could have easily made an appearence at the black gate he choose not to. like I said I could live with sauron not appearing if the eye was not shown, if jackson actually had a closer at the books like when the ring was destroyed a giant shadow of sauron bursts out of bara dur screaming before imploding. sauron would have been more mysterious if bara durs peak was bear no eye it would have made sauron more of a force and mysterious. I would rather sauron in the flesh than that lighthouse
JasonVoorhees6661 2 years ago
You also have to remember that Aragon is Arathorns son, Isildurs Heir (in his veines runs the same blood that once defeated Sauron)
youdontknowme4 3 years ago
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Sauron fears Aragorn!Hah! dont make me laugh!!!
teshanovic1 3 years ago
Yup he sure does. :-)
Remember at this point Saurons like "Right... wich one of you's got it? come on, give me a clue!" And a decendant of those who have defeated Sauron a couple of times popping up and saying "oww, i might have it" puts the creepers on him. At no point does Sauron beleive its going to be destoryed, he thinks someone will take up arms against him..hence why banging on his gate and going "Me and Gandi have got a few boys together, wnt a fight?" works :-p
Plymgeog 3 years ago 5
It has nothing to do with that. Sauron fears Aragorn because Aragorn's destiny is to become the High King of Gondor, which would unite all men against Sauron. If all men were divided, Sauron could win the war without the Ring, but without the Ring and a United front against him, he stands little chance.
Samprasisthebest 3 years ago
Sorry but dnt agree with that;
The world of men was failing (the last time sauron was defeated there were still elves in large numbers and the kingdom of Gondor was pretty much in its prime) Gondor at the time of Aragorn was said to have a population problem,(in the book anyway) Remeber Sauron only sent part of his army to defeat them at Gondor. No way was a united party of men going to defeat Sauron without the ring There just wernt the numbers.
Plymgeog 3 years ago
Right, Gondor alone couldn't defeat Sauron. But as High King, Sauron fears that Aragorn could unite ALL free men against him, which could severely hamper his chances, considering he didn't know where the Ring was. The army sent to attack Minas Tirith was the bulk of his army, more than 200,000 strong, remember there were only 10,000 orcs left in Mordor after that army left.
Samprasisthebest 3 years ago
Yea that makes sense but considering Saurons armies were attacking all free men/dwarves/elves at around the same time (Hence why none came to help save Rohan...That and Denathor not calling for aid) I still dnt really see how a united front could work if all the others were under attack? (maybe i missiterpreted the book, Q.Does Tolkien give the number of men that traveled to the black gate? i cnt recall if he did or not.. and I cnt remeber where my copy is. :-s
Plymgeog 3 years ago
Yes, about 6000 men arrived to the Black Gate, but it is also said that they left Minas Tirith better defended that how it was before the Battle of Pelennor Fields, and they also left a garrison in Osgiliath, therefore only 6000 men arrived at the black gates...and to Samprasisthebest there were much more orcs on Mordor, not only 10.000..
Argoleth8608 3 years ago
Argoleth, its been a while since I've read the books, so I don't know exactly how many orcs were left in Mordor in the books after Pelennor Fields, but in the movie Gandalf says after the battle "There are now 10,000 orcs between Frodo and Mount Doom"
Samprasisthebest 3 years ago
Yeah that's true and forgive if my comment sounded agressive, but in the book Gandalf also said after Pelennor Fields that the army was just one of the many that Sauron had, so at least there were millions of orcs left in Mordor.
Argoleth8608 3 years ago
there were 600,000 left in mordor, not 10,000
TierraGamma08 3 years ago
It wasn't about the numbers. Once he knew Aragorn was Isildur's heir, the rightful King of Gondor and Arnor, Sauron feared that Aragorn HAD the Ring, and would seek to use it to supplant him.
MassCityGent 2 years ago
Quoting from the LotR:TT-Book I, Chapter 5: The White Rider. "He is in great fear, not knowing what mighty one may suddenly appear, wielding the Ring, and assailing him with war, seeking to cast him down and take his place. That we should wish to cast him down and have no one in his place is not a thought that occurs to his mind. That we should try to destroy the Ring itself has not yet entered into his darkest dream."
TheFluffyEvil 3 years ago
A bit before in the book it is also said that Sauron knows every one of the fellowship, and thinks they are going to Minas Tirith.
TheFluffyEvil 3 years ago
sum of these little parts that werent put in the movie would make a bit more sense with sum parts
anzacwarrior 3 years ago
which is less than the amount of ppl playing wow :D
SkyRider15000 3 years ago
I am sure theyd have it in Denmark, Europe is a good market.
1tephania 3 years ago 2
then maybe they have it somewhere, but i have not seen it a single time.
SkyRider15000 3 years ago 2
i would wish i had the ext version but i dont think they have it here in teny tiny denmark with only 5 million ppl
SkyRider15000 3 years ago
urr, they would have it in all countries
leeho98 3 years ago
bobdot the hobbit is bieng made but i think it will be realesed this year or next year either way i am seeing that movie
nickthegreat712 3 years ago
2 years i think
iceblue345 2 years ago
I love this scene...all you get to do is listen to Sir Ian's wonderful speaking voice! His voice is my favorite lol
iluvcaptainjackk 3 years ago
what a great actor ian is !!!!...aragorn said nothing...just said sam is with him lol...he just was looking at the horizon listening to ian
Heliosx15005 3 years ago 9
@Heliosx15005 Throughout the trilogy, I thought overall Viggo did a good job as Aragorn...
AMNlinkinparkfan115 1 year ago
Lol, when Gandalf says that Sauron fears him Aragorn is all like "Yeah, he does!".
vulcanicspice 3 years ago 12
Dude, you wouldn't be afraid of a guy as uber as Aragorn? LOL
Gaelek13 3 years ago 4
Ah, this is a wonderful scene.
Booster2point0 3 years ago 5
aragon rebuilt arnor right???
assWompingMadNess 3 years ago
Learn english all of you.
Bill6490 3 years ago
Stop calling him Gandi!!
duperman 3 years ago 10
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yeah is too gay!!!!
pradobombillo 3 years ago
book is false or true,this is film,this isn'Y book
TESTEREge 3 years ago