The fibers are how it can perceive magnetic fields and could have it's eyes closed and feel the terrain, colors and various other dimensional fields. Like how fish can sense underwater. Perhaps they can control their environment via the fibers.
What is this shit ? This bozo says that bigfoots are neanderthal, even though bigfoots are reported to be of massive proportions, while neanderthals were short of stature. Lloyd Pye never explains the height problem. Lloyd Pye is a pussy.
at the bottom of the skull in the middle there is a bone lump (of various sizes)...
heard it called the celtic bump or celtic knot....its very exclusive to haplo R1b of east costal europe in celtic peoples....actually a serious physical feature of the celtic blood type o group...who also commonly have skulls that are up to 2 or 3 cm larger in diameter then normal...
@MyBelowme how do u know about it? do u have any reference? i mean i have the kind of skull u are talking about and im also of blood group O but im from india also my father and i have very fair skin and bright green eyes...i have at the back of my head what u called a celtic bump/knot an always wondered if it was a malformation or something..where can i find more info about it?
blood type o is a white blood type almost totally...
your green eyes and fairness come from a white race that entered india and asia in distant pre history...if im not mistaken india credits the ancient aryan white race for establishing their civilization...mummies recently found in chinas Tarim basin burried with silk clothes and horses and with bronze items FAR before china was said to know of bronze tested to be celtic or dutch...
@shivek1987 read about blood type o...i bet u have very hard bones too.
and i bet u NEVER get sick....and id bet u are well muscled and strong....and i bet u hav a higher IQ than almost anyone u know....
the bump we have on our skulls is a remnant of a once elongated skull like what is seen in Egypt's royals. dna tests on king tutenkhamun show he is haplo group R1b...
western european celtic blue eyes white man...type o negative however based on his skeletal deformaties common to 0-
@MyBelowme now that is reaaally interesting...neah India had its own very well established civilization before aryans came..its calld indus valley civilization..aryans came here as late as 1200bc. Aryan race was there in Middle east asia and north india for long. But i doubt aryans and celtics were the same. As far as 0 blood group is concerned, there are a lotta them in india, really and also people with fair skin and greyish/hazel eyes arnt that rare(green is rare, almost non existant).
@shivek1987 this guy does not know anything he is an egocentric dummy.as far as indian culture youre wrong the arya were there 3-6 thousand years ago.aforcentricsts retards have a real problem dealing with this reality of someone other than themselves being the bringers of high refined sensitive culture......to be continued
@shivek1987 .....continued.The arya are not o type blood they are a ab or b with rh neg.thats the truth.all white people are not aryans like they fantasize.The only nonviolent naturally vegetarian naturally passive and naturally transedental are the blood types I listed.o type blood is naturally carnivore.you can see the o type as the vampires and blood drinkers even to this day.animal sacrifice and other unthinkable acts originate from this primative type. cont.
@brendanmichaelpix ..high philosophy though carried on by others does not originate with the carnivorous.It is not an natural emanation from such characters.it is simply not in their original nature .many people imitate others and then try to claim what is really not theirs. cont.
@shivek1987 For instance many people practicing religions which advocate vegetarianism do so in error.It a synthetic practice not true to their dharma.their blood type requires bloody meat and they dont get it.they suffer for living someone elses truth.like nice little white boys who act like gangster negro rappers.it destroys their life.that is the wisdom of the cast system
@brendanmichaelpix lol....thats bullshit...type a is from chimpanzees and type b are from gorillas and babboons....even more type a is an asian blood type and is even today found in india and east asia and the natives of america more than anywhere else...and today type b is still almost totally confined to africa.do some more reading u dickhead.
rh- means literally NON NEW-WORLD PRIMATE...see Rhesus monkey!
the aryans if they were rh- they come from before the last 2 ice ages
@MyBelowme I know all about this stuff to an esoteric level you silly commoner.you are in no postion to school me. rh- means not a monkey.get your willie out of your hand and stop throwing your feces monkey boy.
@brendanmichaelpix man stay outta my brother & my conversation please...
yes the aryan race is said my i believe 13 different cultures to hav seeded civilization there.
so what tha fucks yer point brendan????
this is THE REASON type 0 blood has spread so far over the globe...that and the FACT that a recessive gene (LIKE TYPE 0) can be carried in recession by any other tpye....recombining over and over in time with real type o to spread our race over 50% of the earths people
@shivek1987 also yes the arya were actually spread all over and were defiantly to be found in so called Celtic lands.though they were a distinct group amongst those people as well.think the elves of lord of the rings vs. the men and the dwarfs ect.all white but classified as different races.
brought to type 0+ blood by our insanely potent metabolic rate courtacy of the neanderthal race...study the neanderthal genome sequence results if u doubt me u fucking moron...either way id like u to place ur tail between ur legs and remove your self from this dialogue...
go read about how recessive genes present in a sequence...
@MyBelowme I did not misspell fool.the priest class noble, gentle, super intelligent, trancendant , arya is ectomorph.mesomorph are the barbarian fighting class who travel with the shaman priests and are subordinate to the shining ones .
@MyBelowme But what excited me was the knowledge of the celtic knot u talked abt cuz apart from me ive never met any one who has it, also the big skull.without soundin like a braggin douche, Yh i have an iq of 141, ive never broken a bone in any accidents i ws involved in, i cn lift heavier than most natural guys of my age, cant remember the last time i ws ill...but all this only became significant when u said abt that knot. also m glad to know that its not a deformation cuz no1 aroun me has it
@shivek1987 ...blood type o had the most perfct immune system of all people on earth...and the hardest bones since we can get extreemely strong and big we needed hard bones...and my iq is 130...the knot on the base of our still larger than normal skulls is a remnant of a much larger skull...everyone in my fam has it and most people i know here in east marintime canada which is a totally celtic land.
i believe that blood types define the human races and not our country or appearence
@MyBelowme happy 2012 to u too, do awesome man:), btw the sad part is Indian diet is completely carb/grain based. Here people go for taste(trillions of spices, trans fat etc) not vry nutritive to be honest(eat rice and study ws all my parents wantd me to do:D)...i realised that when i was 14 and started cooking for myself since then. but thanx for that info, wud try to implement wat u said as well. greetings from halfway across the globe. :)
@shivek1987 rice is one of like 3 grains that are gluten free so its ok...
the condition in its extreme kills the villi in your intestinal tract and THAT takes up to 2weeks to heal in which time u cannot absorb ANY nutrition from your food, its called celiac's disease...although its not really a disease or an allergy.
anywayz yea read about "blood type specific diet for type o"
also referred to as the "viking diet"...
also do you know if you're type 0+...or type o-...
@MyBelowme o+, do u think we evolved directly from cro-magnons cuz even they had a slightly larger head in proportion to their bodies and were stockily built?
i think that the cro magnons were a hybrid of the neanderthal and some other hominid race...the neanderthal had a 20% larger cephalization ratio than sapiens or cro-mags...
the basques region of spain today are the globes highest concentration of type o-...they actually claim to be cromagnons that didnt mix into the neanderthal race...
the highest concentration of type0+ is ireland...these blood types stayed in the geography they originated in
@shivek1987 when different races mix genes the geography they mix in stayes dominant to the indiginous genepool...(mexicans look more native american than spanish)
also ALL neanderthal and cro-magnon bones are found in this area no further east into europe than the neander vally in germany....
neanderthal was superior to cromangon physically and intellectually and that evidence is pileing up fast since the neanderthal genome sequencing was completed last year...
@shivek1987 so i think that us type 0+ are dominantly neanderthal human...were still mega smart and mega strong compared to our rh negative cousins...
in europe the islands where these 2 0types interbred allowed for a very even mixture of our genes...but due to dominance & recession of genes in gneral the 0+ branch inherited more beneficial tratits from o- than - inherited from us...
meanwhile our dominance allowed us to KEEP everything that made us better than cromagnon man too
@MyBelowme what is so amazing about the most common blood type?oh I get it you have it.egocentricity is is also very common and an attribute of the common mans o blood type.
o DOENST EXISIT IN THE GREAT APES.type o has a vastly superior immune system due to how it rejects every other type as foreign. Type 0+ has a superior metabolism & can build muscle mass 200% faster than other types and type 0 never breaks bones. type o on average has a much larger skull/brain than other types(especially b)...
type o has blue or green eyes which are linked to higher IQ
@MyBelowme mutt? hmmm.funny a guy so well read(lol) should know by now you are an african voodoo monkey carnivore brute (aka O+ or coal in the diamond mine).Your blood type is the most common because you are the most survivalistic aggressive and violent as we can see by your replies. A young soul group un refined and unwise .go drink some blood dummy.
@brendanmichaelpix youre an idiot buddy...read more about blood types and geographic origins there of....and compare with hte rhesus monkey and ALL great apes of africa and asia..you WILL NOT find type o....
and yea recessive populations like white, blue eyed type o europe is the burest of mankind.....u need to study gene behavior and recombination before youre on any level comparable to where i am mr. man....
Hydrocephalus was the case of this poor individual, not only did he suffer in life, his skull is played around with by some freak calling him an alien...
Instead of asuming the most unlogical explanation (the alien stuff) why don't you try to figure it out as its DAARN easy and several explanations..
Such as : Far from all hydrocephalus skulls are asymmetrical, and the starchild skull is not completly asymmetrical.
or : There was pratices for such things as binding skulls and its likely someone tried doing that to help the child since they lacked a good "health care"
This is no Genetic Enigma or Human-Alien Hybrid........
@fablerox2494 we'll have to agree to disagree then sir. thanks for the friendly response most people are rude and vulgar when people disagree with them.
@ChuckWillsWidows WTF?Treacher-Collins syndrome.= eyes that slant down at the outer corners notched lower eyelids (coloboma) small lower jaw, which may slant cleft palate unusually large mouth underdeveloped, malformed or missing ears underdeveloped or missing cheekbones and side wall/floor of the eye socket large, beak-like nose small or obstructed nasal passages unusual hairline, with hair growing across the cheek like a sideburn occasionally, very small or missing thumbs Dont see any of that
@ChuckWillsWidows Expert scientists have already tested the skull and ruled out Treacher-Collins syndrome. lol Have you seen the 1 hour documentary on Discovery? Did you listen to this this radio broadcast? Evidence from the testing is available.
Explain the 342 long base pairs of DNA is not in the human genome data base while only 265 long base pair DNA is human?
The bone composition itself is the opposite of what human are; showing the oxygen & carbon biochemistry is high while in humans the calcium & phosphorus are high - not the other way around!
It lacks a frontal sinus cavity, determined to have smaller chewing muscles than a human, over 2 dozen physical attributes including the head & neck joins is not human.
Do you mean of God, etc? Well, most religious peoples believe there is no evolution and that god put EVERYTHING on this planet. Therefore, if we are trying to prove there are other lifeforms not from this planet visiting here then that starts to disprove god even more. It's always going to be a constant battle.
@ChandraTheSwift182 You are right, this dont debunk christ. The bible even says the sons of god came into the daughters of men and bare children. He said the mother of this was human, interesting....
Dude if this is real and aliens look like that then they look pretty normal and probably are intelligent and are not hostile unless they think we will do something! i could amagine how pretty alien girls could look :O
@OntDinRS In the public domain, there are reported two DNA analyses done, neither of which demonstrated that the skull was non-human, neither of which demonstrated that it had anything to do with aliens. This guy has been pulling the chain of the gullible, uneducated public for over 10 years talking about this skull, but he has NEVER published a single research paper on the planet to provide evidence for his claims. Just because he uses science-sounding words doesn't mean it's science.
@hamberg42 How about you tell me all about that DNA testing. Start with the part about how you understand what DNA testing is, then, aside from the two previous tests that showed nothing non-human, tell me how the data indicate that this skull is of "alien" origin in any way. Please, point to where the findings demonstrate this, what the statistical analysis showed, etc. Can you do this "dumbass"?
@hamberg42 If you are going to comment on science, then why can't you have the frigging education in science to keep from making yourself look like a total idiot???? D'uh!
"If you are going to comment on science, then why can't you have the frigging education in science to keep from making yourself look like a total idiot?"
If you are going to comment on generalities then why can't you have the frigging intelligence to keep from making yourself look like a total idiot?
"science, then" - this comma is improper usage of punctuation.
I have some education in Science; you?
Do you have anymore dumb ass, and assuming remarks good sir?
I agree, that a let say blog is not an scientific proof for such research and it can only indicate something has been done. However, an appropriate labour journal and some reviews are required to at least verify, the results presented are not just an error. It's easy to make a fake statements and even pro scientist may miss some significant issue at some point while developing new tests on DNA. At some point journal should exist, so others could repeat tests with similar results or verify them.
@TheSWEngineer With respect, a "blog", as you refer to it, does not indicate that "something has been done", but only that someone claims that something was done. The remainder of your comment is something that any scientist would agree with.
First do thorough analysis of the remains, then verify hypothesises. However, it's not a crime to make up one at this point, to be verified or busted later.
From the point of view of an engineer, it looks like an early stage of development and tests of new version of life form. Creationism, some may say. But this discovery and lacks in evolution chains still don't exclude that possibility.
This is a load of nonsense with no basis in science whatsoever. There has never been a single published paper in a single credible peer-reviewed journal on the planet that has ever supported this crap. Funny the difference that an education can make.
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This is a load of nonsense with no basis in science whatsoever. There has never been a single published paper in a single credible peer-reviewed journal on the planet that has ever supported this crap. Funny the difference that an education can make.
@TheSkepticUn No, there hasn't been a peer-reviewed paper on this... bit not because it's necessarily is fraud, but because it's simple not mainstream. You have an inflated faith in mainstream science if you expect this. You're trying to dismiss this by trying to ridicule the guy. Isn't the more intelligent and sensible to look at the data offered? Find the flaws and you might have a case.
@arscill1 I simply think that if this guy was truly interested in finding out the truth, that he would never name the skull (anything) "The STARCHILD SKULL" before any findings were ever derived. Second, instead of using the lexicon of science to try to convince the uneducated that what he was doing was really science (for more than 10 years now), why not accept the results of the lab tests done and move on? It was already shown to be of human parents.
@TheSkepticUn For claiming to be interested in the 'truth' you don't listen, nor read, the stuff available. The troubles with getting researchers involved and, if I'm not mistaken, also to get the monetary means to get the analysis done is completely lost on you. Your own comment about the wrong name is the true sign of mainstream conformity, it sounds too whacko so it must be fake. Your attitude is a true sceptic's, you've just decided this is a hoax and have closed your mind.
@arscill1 I have read all that is available to read and I am sorry, but you simply do not know what you are talking about. My comment about the Name, was simply to point out that we are dealing with someone who doesn't have a clue about how to do science. That the name sounds whacko is not the issue at all. The issue is that he was/is prepared to draw conclusions peior to doing the science. That is pseudoscience. As for being sceptical, any sane person would be sceptical.
@TheSkepticUn Are you really this stupid or are you having fun with me? What is more scientific than having qualified people involved to make morphological comparisons with not only normal human skulls but also with the different deformities suggested by the critics? What is more scientific than having qualified people doing the DNA study? You say you've read it all, but you haven't read anything and is just grasping at straws now to protect you ego. You should be careful with that.
@arscill1 When you refer to "morphological comparisons", in which peer-reviewed scientific journal have these comparisons been reported? And in these comparisons published in peer-reviewed journals has anyone ever said that this skull is of "alien" origin? No "PROPER scientist", to borrow your term, has ever endorsed any of this nonsense. Do you really know anything about how DNA analyses are conducted? Do you? Are you really someone with graduate level training in science and research?
@TheSkepticUn Do you know something? You're boring. What about some independent critical thinking... BEFORE trying to bully your way to 'win' a discussion? It's clear from what you write that you're of the 'guilty until proven innocent' kind of person. You're waiting for someone to tell you that it's safe to be open to extra terrestrials? It hasn't dawned on you that the same attitude is what's stopping material like this to get a break into the scientific world?
@arscill1 Do YOU know something? You are uneducated in science and if you think that this is "boring", then that is entirely your perogative. You claimed to have a degree in biology, but that is not the case, is it? You assumed that this was a safe bet to claim (after all, how many people on YT would ever call you on your bs?), but in reality, you don't have a clue about science at all. You have never published a word in a peer-reviewed journal, have you? Again, you got caught trying to bs.
@arscill1 I was not asking you to "prove" you possess a degree, as you say. The issue is that you do not demonstrate sufficient understanding of science to be able to "publish" or to know what "peer-review" entails. More fundamentally though, you lack an understanding of the scientific method and how research is conducted. Science is NOT reported in a personal website and the absolute lack of findings in any journal should make anyone with your "degree" be very suspicious. You are too funny.
@arscill1 Again, I highly doubt that you have any university training in science and certainly none at the level of scientific publication (DO YOU?) because of the way in which you write. Whether there are ETs is entirely separate from this issue and anyone who has been involved in research is cognizant of such a delineation--you are not. You lack the logic to publish anything above a children's book. Perhaps there is life out there someplace, but there is no evidence of this NOW. SCHOOL!
@arscill1 You say, "What is more scientific than having qualified people involved to make morphological comparisons with not only normal human skulls but also with the different deformities suggested by the critics? " What is more scientific is having the experimental methods, statitistcal analyses, and findings published in credible, peer-reviewed journals instead of some guy with no expertise making wild claims on his personal website with none of the aforementioned. Get the education.
@arscill1 To quote you, "For claiming to be interested in the 'truth' you don't listen, nor read, the stuff available. The troubles with getting researchers involved and, if I'm not mistaken, also to get the monetary means to get the analysis done is completely lost on you." Aside from your pathetic grammar and syntax, you don't know what you are talking about. You write like an idiot. "The troubles with getting researchers involved...? Say what? Who else can do the frigging research, you?
@arscill1 What do you know about securing research funding? NOTHING. You don't have a frigging clue about how research is done, or how grants are applied for. But I would love you to give me some indication what part of this you actually do know about. Perhaps you feel it is the genetics or molecular biology? Maybe you could explain why, in the first DNA analysis (BOLD, Vancouver, 1999), that there was both an X and Y chromosome, the Y only available from the father? Human parents, no aliens.
@arscill1 I will take a wild swing here and I will assume that you have no training in scientific research. What I ridicule is his 'snake-oil' salesman approach and an obvious lack of understanding in doing so, of science. Any credible scientist on Planet Earth would LOVE to have their name on a discovery that, if true, would be the most profound discovery of Mankind's history. The problem is a simple one: it is a human skull and there was never an "alien" Daddy.
@TheSkepticUn Actually, I've got a degree in biology and have published in peer reviewed journals. I also have some idea about the power play and conformity in the academic world and it's a myth that you easily can get as controversial material published. So the demand for peer reviewed journals is just pffft!!!! Aliens are something it's tradition to ridicule, so bad career move. If you can be bothered to check out the website, however, you'll see that scientists are involved, anyway.
@arscill1 In order to publish in a peer-reviewed journal, you would need at least a master's, more likely a PhD, depending on the discipline. Any scientist would JUMP at the chance to have hsi/her name attached to something so profoundly paradigm-altering. If you had graduate level education (which you don't), you would have bothered to asertain that there is not a single "scientist" listed on the website that can be found.
@TheSkepticUn So.. Dr. Eshleman and Dr. Malhi... don't count? Those are the guys that did the preliminary DNA work. What's wrong with them? Took me 30 secs to find them. Everyone would JUMP at stuff like this when it's safe. I'm sure that all the researches that refused to touch it will curse themselves if the final results proves the claims Pye makes. About my degree, you can keep your slander, I know what I have, that's enough.
@arscill1 If you have a degree in biology, then don't you question the total lack of data provided, only videos showing something fancy-looking for the uneducated? DNA analyses are not reported using videos or pictures, but in large quantities of data. Where is the statistical analysis? Where are the methods described? None of this has ever been reported and published so that it can be replicated. And then, look at the reasoning for the assertion that the DNA is not of this world. BS!
@TheSkepticUn IF you could actually be bothered to check out the website and look, I mean LOOK, you'll see that the definitive results are from 2011, while the 2010 results were preliminary. So, very fresh and it takes time to get material out in into journals, very much because of the peer reviewing process. You would also see that the results are being prepared for publication. These videos and reports are targeting the general public, as is also it stated on the web site.
@arscill1 If you knew a single thing about science, and scientific research, you would have a clue what you are talking about. "Results" are not found on a personal website, first off, they are published in peer-reviewed journals. Second, how do you know what the "results" were, when you are making your comments, when these results were never published? Get an education in science at the level necessary to do high quality research and then discuss if you want.
@TheSkepticUn Is attempts to slander you're only real tool? You have hit the nail why this subject still exists in the fringe, egocentric 'intellectual' elitism, that holier-than-thou attitude that closes more doors than it opens. You are a prime specimen. I do have a degree, it won't disappear just because you say so, I'm afraid. I've obviously have more insight than you about the hypocrisy within the scientific world. There's an invitation to review the geneticists' work, off you go!
@TheSkepticUn Actually, Pye is open to the possibility that it might be something yet, unknown of earthly origin. Have you actually read or heard a single word of what he's saying/writing? He's more open minded than you are. If I were you, I would just be quiet, open my mind and follow the story. I better point out to you, I'm not claiming it's an alien. I'm reacting to your attempts to slander, something quite inexcusable, when you haven't actually studied the case.
@arscill1 Once again, yes I have read it all. I am interested less in his repeated narrative than I am in seeing actual results published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal. Do you understand the science here? If you have further comment, I propose that it be on a scientific basis.
@TheSkepticUn I understand very much more of this than you have proved to do. All of your accusations has been disproved, but you keep warbling shrilly about 'science'. If you have read it all, you'll know that the stuff is being prepared for publication (by PROPER scientists even, fancy that eh?)... so why are you throwing all your BS on a film that's not even claiming to be a scientific report? Keep you foul mouth where it's due and look at this video for what it is or simple keep quiet.
@arscill1 I am sorry, but you are simply incorrect. There is no "science" in what Pye has presented. I also suggest that you have absolutely no education in science at the university level, nor any experience as a scientific researcher. You are simply reporting what you read on a personal website, when you talk of "PROPER scientists". Perhaps if you knew what you were talking about yourself, you would know better?
@arscill1 You claim that you have a degree in biology and you have published in peer-reviewed journals. Is that so? First off, you would not be anything but a grunt on the author list for any science publication with an undergrad degree. Second, even with such a degree you wouldn't make such a moronic suggestion to refer to this clown's website because you would know how to find legitimate scientific literature. Don't come on here and try to BS about your (non-existent) background.
@TheSkepticUn You don't give up with your attempted mud slinging do you? I don't care what you think. I know what I've got. About the website, I have enough common sense to look at the material presented, what it claims to be and what it doesn't claims to be. He's perfectly earnest in what he does and he has involved qualified people to do the job, that's what matters. I'm waiting for the future peer reviews of the material before accepting or rejecting his theory.
@arscill1 Being "an earnest man" is not relevant, and even if it was, how do you know how "earnest" Pye is? Again, you claimed to have the education in science and you claimed to have published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, but that is a crock and you don't have a clue. You don't even know how to access the peer-reviewed journals or how to read research. You don't have a clue how statistical analysis should be done, nor of how a DNA analysis is really done, do you?? Go to school.
@TheSkepticUn If that post was a test, you'd scored 0%, down to the point of the DNA analysis. Not the kind done here, I'll grant you that. Time for you to grow up, mate. The person who offer only attempts to disgrace, pull authority and ridicule to a discussion has already lost. You have completely discredited yourself from being taken seriously. You owe Pye an apology for the claims you put in his mouth but which are your own. That is unethical and in certain circumstances illegal.
@arscill1 Why do I owe anyone an apology when I am simply stating what science expects--EVIDENCE, and that what Pye (and you by your iname and uneducated comments) has claimed is not at all supported. Now I guess you are an expert in legal matters. You are a frigging joke pal. No, you don't have the degrees in science to know what you are talking about, nor have you ever published in a peer-reviewed journal.
@arscill1 As for the "website" and materials presented therein, that is the first clue that you haven't even taken a first-year university-level science course, because you'd be laughed out of the lecture hall for trying to convince a legitimate scientist that some clown's personal websaite is where you go to find credible scientific findings. Why do goofs like you try to pretned that you know things but really know absolutely nothing about such a topic? You never got that biology degree, did u?
@TheSkepticUn I got my degree and more... you obviously didn't even pass your ABC. Where did I claim the web site to be proof? I've used it to point out the serious work that's happening, to point out that people with proper titles (nods nods) has done the work and is preparing material that will be peer reviewed. I've also used the website to disprove your accusations that the website is claimed to the final proof. YOU are the only one here claiming it is, not Pye. You owe him an apology.
@arscill1 How do you know what work has been done? Simply because you watch these ridiculous videos and read the nonsense on his website, does not mean that anything at all was actually done, under what kind of conditions, by whom, etc., because nothing has ever been published. How can you claim to have an education in science yet nothing close to science has been conducted here? Personal websites are not scientific publications. Go to school!
@arscill1 When some goof says, "I got my degree and more", I have to chuckle. Was this "degree" something you printed off the Internet? And, by "and more", does that refer to a certificate in delusional thinking? OK, tell me about the variability of the human genome and why Pye's claims that this skull is of "alien" origin must be shown to pass this hurdle before actually making such a claim. Tell me what kind of stats he should be running or what his hypothesis was. Evidence please.
@arscill1 When you refer to a personal website AT ALL, makes your claim to know what you are talking about in terms of science a JOKE. When you talk about "serious work", how do you know: 1) What it takes for such work to be done--do you possess this level of education?? 2) Whether it is being done from this website without a word published about it in a credible journal? You are simply uneducated and you do not know what you are talking about. Get the degrees instead of making up crap.
@arscill1 You say, "Where did I claim the web site to be proof? I've used it to point out the serious work that's happening..." Are you serious? You are using the website without hesitation to refer to "serious work that's happening"...Based on what, some guy's claim that "serious work is happening"? That kind of statement is enough for anyone to see that you don't have the background you claim you have. If you did, you would expect evidence of the "serious work" = "PEER-REVIEW".
@arscill1 You say, "Find the flaws and you might have a case." First off, if you had the background in science that you claim, you would know that it is always up to the claimee or investigator to provide the findings, and by extension, the evidence to support the claim. The onus does not befall onto the audience to prove or find "flaws" beforehand. But your point illustrates that Pye can make claims without evidence and this is not science. You wouldn't know one way or the other either.
@bigbadosker Not really, it says in the Bible that the "Gods" said let us make man in our image, that they put him in the garden of eden, not created him... The bible is the most amazing book, almost magical and it grows with our knowledge and is always validated
@bigbadosker Its not bad news for Jesus. Its bad news for you, who dont understand the Bible. When you know nothing about what the Bible says you act foolishly. Based on your comment.
@RobertsDigital Ok Fanatic thanks. Keep your blessing to yourself. I don't need them nor want them. You people are parasties and one day you will be gone form the earth when people use logic and reason. Not bullshit submissive dogma. Have fun in heaven and my the Lord have mercy on your soul in gay baby jesus name. Amen.
@RobertsDigital Jesus was a raving homo. I prefer my prohpets not suck dick. You can go away anytime fanatic. You people are like cock roaches. Go bother someone else with your dumb as fuck dogma. Thanks.
@occultologist nah...trolls are the scholars of skeptics, skeptics are like infants regarding their knowledge and awareness to the trolls. like robots, lost in no where.
...may I take custody of a sample to clone and nuture in full sentients, if possible
~then set the little one free and able to go about teachin by example about the beings free will, perhaps then we'll start to get it, if the example is extreme enough.
@Jaidwolf not progeria, otherwise why would the skull be so much harder than normal human skull. Progeria produces fragile skulls and other normal features would be still intact.
@skeptoid1974 megalencephaly cannot explain the other major differences in this skull, which includes unusual eye sockets, bone composition, harder bone, no sinuses, larger ear cavities, etc. Furthermore he is not afraid to let scientists look at it because he already knew the skull is highly unusual.
@Jaidwolf Note that the ears on the Starchild skull are much lower than normal humans as well as children with progeria. The eyes totally different because if it had normal human eyes, it would bulge out like frog eyes. That is how shallow the eye socket really is. I did not make this up... do check Bill Munn explanation of the eyes in the MonsterQuest episode Lizard Monster.
This is a very clear case of megalencephaly. Cases of megalencephaly are almost ALWAYS symmetrical (NOT asymmetrical), and bilateral, because of the shape of the brain case (it's an approximate sphere). Therefore, pressure exacted in one particular part of the posterior cranium will have a dispersion effect across the remaining surface area of the posterior surface. Unfortunately, people like Lloyd Pye actually profit from this nonsense. There has NEVER been any evidence to support Pye's BS.
Another problem with all reconstructions shown is that they all used human features that may not be correct at all. The Starchild may instead actually look like this watch?v=gnWfNzldnnQ Whether it is a fake or (intentionally) leaked photo, the resemblance and features are (chillingly and coincidentally) similar to the Starchild.
These guys know their stuff!
avfromc 1 week ago
is it 900 or 9000
laughingman961 1 month ago
Nephilim perhaps?
Invaderphantomstar11 1 month ago
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The fibers are how it can perceive magnetic fields and could have it's eyes closed and feel the terrain, colors and various other dimensional fields. Like how fish can sense underwater. Perhaps they can control their environment via the fibers.
jetreschau 1 month ago
What is this shit ? This bozo says that bigfoots are neanderthal, even though bigfoots are reported to be of massive proportions, while neanderthals were short of stature. Lloyd Pye never explains the height problem. Lloyd Pye is a pussy.
conan0869 1 month ago
@conan0869 neanderthals are bigger than homeo sapiens,
SuperRetardedPENGUIN 1 month ago
This is soo intreging I think we are at times of great discoveries. That is if our government "allows" us wtf
YourMajesty100 2 months ago
at the bottom of the skull in the middle there is a bone lump (of various sizes)...
heard it called the celtic bump or celtic knot....its very exclusive to haplo R1b of east costal europe in celtic peoples....actually a serious physical feature of the celtic blood type o group...who also commonly have skulls that are up to 2 or 3 cm larger in diameter then normal...
blood type O is AMAZING....
MyBelowme 2 months ago
@MyBelowme how do u know about it? do u have any reference? i mean i have the kind of skull u are talking about and im also of blood group O but im from india also my father and i have very fair skin and bright green eyes...i have at the back of my head what u called a celtic bump/knot an always wondered if it was a malformation or something..where can i find more info about it?
shivek1987 3 weeks ago
@shivek1987 ....interesting man...
blood type o is a white blood type almost totally...
your green eyes and fairness come from a white race that entered india and asia in distant pre history...if im not mistaken india credits the ancient aryan white race for establishing their civilization...mummies recently found in chinas Tarim basin burried with silk clothes and horses and with bronze items FAR before china was said to know of bronze tested to be celtic or dutch...
MyBelowme 3 weeks ago
@shivek1987 read about blood type o...i bet u have very hard bones too.
and i bet u NEVER get sick....and id bet u are well muscled and strong....and i bet u hav a higher IQ than almost anyone u know....
the bump we have on our skulls is a remnant of a once elongated skull like what is seen in Egypt's royals. dna tests on king tutenkhamun show he is haplo group R1b...
western european celtic blue eyes white man...type o negative however based on his skeletal deformaties common to 0-
MyBelowme 3 weeks ago
@MyBelowme now that is reaaally interesting...neah India had its own very well established civilization before aryans came..its calld indus valley civilization..aryans came here as late as 1200bc. Aryan race was there in Middle east asia and north india for long. But i doubt aryans and celtics were the same. As far as 0 blood group is concerned, there are a lotta them in india, really and also people with fair skin and greyish/hazel eyes arnt that rare(green is rare, almost non existant).
shivek1987 3 weeks ago
@shivek1987 this guy does not know anything he is an egocentric dummy.as far as indian culture youre wrong the arya were there 3-6 thousand years ago.aforcentricsts retards have a real problem dealing with this reality of someone other than themselves being the bringers of high refined sensitive culture......to be continued
brendanmichaelpix 2 weeks ago
@shivek1987 .....continued.The arya are not o type blood they are a ab or b with rh neg.thats the truth.all white people are not aryans like they fantasize.The only nonviolent naturally vegetarian naturally passive and naturally transedental are the blood types I listed.o type blood is naturally carnivore.you can see the o type as the vampires and blood drinkers even to this day.animal sacrifice and other unthinkable acts originate from this primative type. cont.
brendanmichaelpix 2 weeks ago
@brendanmichaelpix ..high philosophy though carried on by others does not originate with the carnivorous.It is not an natural emanation from such characters.it is simply not in their original nature .many people imitate others and then try to claim what is really not theirs. cont.
brendanmichaelpix 2 weeks ago
@shivek1987 For instance many people practicing religions which advocate vegetarianism do so in error.It a synthetic practice not true to their dharma.their blood type requires bloody meat and they dont get it.they suffer for living someone elses truth.like nice little white boys who act like gangster negro rappers.it destroys their life.that is the wisdom of the cast system
brendanmichaelpix 2 weeks ago
@brendanmichaelpix lol....thats bullshit...type a is from chimpanzees and type b are from gorillas and babboons....even more type a is an asian blood type and is even today found in india and east asia and the natives of america more than anywhere else...and today type b is still almost totally confined to africa.do some more reading u dickhead.
rh- means literally NON NEW-WORLD PRIMATE...see Rhesus monkey!
the aryans if they were rh- they come from before the last 2 ice ages
MyBelowme 2 weeks ago
@MyBelowme I know all about this stuff to an esoteric level you silly commoner.you are in no postion to school me. rh- means not a monkey.get your willie out of your hand and stop throwing your feces monkey boy.
brendanmichaelpix 2 weeks ago
@brendanmichaelpix man stay outta my brother & my conversation please...
yes the aryan race is said my i believe 13 different cultures to hav seeded civilization there.
so what tha fucks yer point brendan????
this is THE REASON type 0 blood has spread so far over the globe...that and the FACT that a recessive gene (LIKE TYPE 0) can be carried in recession by any other tpye....recombining over and over in time with real type o to spread our race over 50% of the earths people
MyBelowme 2 weeks ago
@MyBelowme arya are one people unto themselves. you know nothing about it as all this way too esoteric for a commoner like you
brendanmichaelpix 2 weeks ago
@shivek1987 also yes the arya were actually spread all over and were defiantly to be found in so called Celtic lands.though they were a distinct group amongst those people as well.think the elves of lord of the rings vs. the men and the dwarfs ect.all white but classified as different races.
brendanmichaelpix 2 weeks ago
@brendanmichaelpix also you will know arya no matter what their skin tone by the ectomorph body type
brendanmichaelpix 2 weeks ago
@brendanmichaelpix ...dammn dude....the word is MESOMORPHIC!!!!!!!!!!
meaning athletic low fat to muscle ratio....
brought to type 0+ blood by our insanely potent metabolic rate courtacy of the neanderthal race...study the neanderthal genome sequence results if u doubt me u fucking moron...either way id like u to place ur tail between ur legs and remove your self from this dialogue...
go read about how recessive genes present in a sequence...
MyBelowme 2 weeks ago
@MyBelowme I did not misspell fool.the priest class noble, gentle, super intelligent, trancendant , arya is ectomorph.mesomorph are the barbarian fighting class who travel with the shaman priests and are subordinate to the shining ones .
brendanmichaelpix 2 weeks ago
@MyBelowme But what excited me was the knowledge of the celtic knot u talked abt cuz apart from me ive never met any one who has it, also the big skull.without soundin like a braggin douche, Yh i have an iq of 141, ive never broken a bone in any accidents i ws involved in, i cn lift heavier than most natural guys of my age, cant remember the last time i ws ill...but all this only became significant when u said abt that knot. also m glad to know that its not a deformation cuz no1 aroun me has it
shivek1987 3 weeks ago
@shivek1987 ...blood type o had the most perfct immune system of all people on earth...and the hardest bones since we can get extreemely strong and big we needed hard bones...and my iq is 130...the knot on the base of our still larger than normal skulls is a remnant of a much larger skull...everyone in my fam has it and most people i know here in east marintime canada which is a totally celtic land.
i believe that blood types define the human races and not our country or appearence
MyBelowme 3 weeks ago
@shivek1987 ...
one way or another friend u are the same race as i am when it comes down to it...
so ill share a lil secret i came accross...
iF U STOP EATING GLUTEN YOU WILL BECOME STRONGER AND YOU WILL THINK MORE QUICKLY....
we cannot metabolize wheat or rye or any grain with gluten in it...
remove gluten and ur muscles harden and grow!!!!! and ur body temp wi rise a lil bit too...
u must have also noticed that ur body is hotter than most peoples...
nice to meet u man...happy 2012
MyBelowme 3 weeks ago
@MyBelowme happy 2012 to u too, do awesome man:), btw the sad part is Indian diet is completely carb/grain based. Here people go for taste(trillions of spices, trans fat etc) not vry nutritive to be honest(eat rice and study ws all my parents wantd me to do:D)...i realised that when i was 14 and started cooking for myself since then. but thanx for that info, wud try to implement wat u said as well. greetings from halfway across the globe. :)
shivek1987 3 weeks ago
@shivek1987 rice is one of like 3 grains that are gluten free so its ok...
the condition in its extreme kills the villi in your intestinal tract and THAT takes up to 2weeks to heal in which time u cannot absorb ANY nutrition from your food, its called celiac's disease...although its not really a disease or an allergy.
anywayz yea read about "blood type specific diet for type o"
also referred to as the "viking diet"...
also do you know if you're type 0+...or type o-...
id guess +
MyBelowme 3 weeks ago
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shivek1987 2 weeks ago
@MyBelowme o+, do u think we evolved directly from cro-magnons cuz even they had a slightly larger head in proportion to their bodies and were stockily built?
shivek1987 2 weeks ago
@shivek1987 good question....
i think that the cro magnons were a hybrid of the neanderthal and some other hominid race...the neanderthal had a 20% larger cephalization ratio than sapiens or cro-mags...
the basques region of spain today are the globes highest concentration of type o-...they actually claim to be cromagnons that didnt mix into the neanderthal race...
the highest concentration of type0+ is ireland...these blood types stayed in the geography they originated in
MyBelowme 2 weeks ago
@shivek1987 when different races mix genes the geography they mix in stayes dominant to the indiginous genepool...(mexicans look more native american than spanish)
also ALL neanderthal and cro-magnon bones are found in this area no further east into europe than the neander vally in germany....
neanderthal was superior to cromangon physically and intellectually and that evidence is pileing up fast since the neanderthal genome sequencing was completed last year...
MyBelowme 2 weeks ago
@shivek1987 so i think that us type 0+ are dominantly neanderthal human...were still mega smart and mega strong compared to our rh negative cousins...
in europe the islands where these 2 0types interbred allowed for a very even mixture of our genes...but due to dominance & recession of genes in gneral the 0+ branch inherited more beneficial tratits from o- than - inherited from us...
meanwhile our dominance allowed us to KEEP everything that made us better than cromagnon man too
MyBelowme 2 weeks ago
@MyBelowme what is so amazing about the most common blood type?oh I get it you have it.egocentricity is is also very common and an attribute of the common mans o blood type.
brendanmichaelpix 2 weeks ago
@brendanmichaelpix back that comment up u fuckin mutt...
heres what makes type 0+ so great.
o DOENST EXISIT IN THE GREAT APES.type o has a vastly superior immune system due to how it rejects every other type as foreign. Type 0+ has a superior metabolism & can build muscle mass 200% faster than other types and type 0 never breaks bones. type o on average has a much larger skull/brain than other types(especially b)...
type o has blue or green eyes which are linked to higher IQ
MyBelowme 2 weeks ago
@MyBelowme mutt? hmmm.funny a guy so well read(lol) should know by now you are an african voodoo monkey carnivore brute (aka O+ or coal in the diamond mine).Your blood type is the most common because you are the most survivalistic aggressive and violent as we can see by your replies. A young soul group un refined and unwise .go drink some blood dummy.
brendanmichaelpix 2 weeks ago
@brendanmichaelpix youre an idiot buddy...read more about blood types and geographic origins there of....and compare with hte rhesus monkey and ALL great apes of africa and asia..you WILL NOT find type o....
and yea recessive populations like white, blue eyed type o europe is the burest of mankind.....u need to study gene behavior and recombination before youre on any level comparable to where i am mr. man....
now i have asked u to fuck off....please do so
MyBelowme 2 weeks ago
@brendanmichaelpix and oh yea faggit....
us type os are globaly concidered to be extremely attractive people....
so were better looking, we never get sick, were super strong, were super intelligent,
so whats ur problem brendan?????????
are u hating our race cuzzzz ur a type a or b brown eyed mutt?????
hmmmmm
MyBelowme 2 weeks ago
@MyBelowme not hating anything.only giving out some hard to find truth .your welcome
brendanmichaelpix 2 weeks ago
starchilds look ugglyy!
900transformers 3 months ago
or celtic people...
MyBelowme 3 months ago
THAT BUMP is not common to all humans....only to haplogroup R1b...blood type o
MyBelowme 3 months ago
@MyBelowme what bump are you referring to? the back of the skull?
lexxypexxy 2 months ago
the results of this test are very strange indeed...im suprised...its really not like any human skull..in appearance and in its structure...
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psycholunatic213 4 months ago
Interesting
cleofastro 4 months ago
So what's happened in the past three years to date about this???
lyndajblack 4 months ago 3
Hydrocephalus was the case of this poor individual, not only did he suffer in life, his skull is played around with by some freak calling him an alien...
Like bullying a dead kid... now thats just SICK.
TheGoatherdGod 5 months ago
@TheGoatherdGod explain the Symmetry of the skull then. Hydrocephalus is an asymmetrical deformity.
fablerox2494 5 months ago
@fablerox2494
Instead of asuming the most unlogical explanation (the alien stuff) why don't you try to figure it out as its DAARN easy and several explanations..
Such as : Far from all hydrocephalus skulls are asymmetrical, and the starchild skull is not completly asymmetrical.
or : There was pratices for such things as binding skulls and its likely someone tried doing that to help the child since they lacked a good "health care"
This is no Genetic Enigma or Human-Alien Hybrid........
TheGoatherdGod 5 months ago
@fablerox2494 we'll have to agree to disagree then sir. thanks for the friendly response most people are rude and vulgar when people disagree with them.
fablerox2494 4 months ago
Want to know what that skull REALLY is? Check out images of Treacher-Collins syndrome.
ChuckWillsWidows 5 months ago
JmzCerrillo 5 months ago
@JmzCerrillo , try a search on Treacher-Collins syndrome WORST CASE......
ChuckWillsWidows 5 months ago
@ChuckWillsWidows Expert scientists have already tested the skull and ruled out Treacher-Collins syndrome. lol Have you seen the 1 hour documentary on Discovery? Did you listen to this this radio broadcast? Evidence from the testing is available.
TheRudeAmerican 5 months ago
@TheRudeAmerican , studied anatomy, fossils, medical cases, and can clearly see that this is one sad deformed human skull, not some space alien.
ChuckWillsWidows 5 months ago
@ChuckWillsWidows
Explain the 342 long base pairs of DNA is not in the human genome data base while only 265 long base pair DNA is human?
The bone composition itself is the opposite of what human are; showing the oxygen & carbon biochemistry is high while in humans the calcium & phosphorus are high - not the other way around!
It lacks a frontal sinus cavity, determined to have smaller chewing muscles than a human, over 2 dozen physical attributes including the head & neck joins is not human.
KalanYore 4 months ago
Progeria Syndrome
SHOWGIRLchannel 5 months ago
My head is huge am i a starchild too? :S
Warwolfes 5 months ago
@Warwolfes Nah.. your mom just smoked too much crack. LOL
TheRudeAmerican 5 months ago
um why does the existence of other forms of life dispute the relevance of Christ?
ChandraTheSwift182 5 months ago 9
@ChandraTheSwift182
Do you mean of God, etc? Well, most religious peoples believe there is no evolution and that god put EVERYTHING on this planet. Therefore, if we are trying to prove there are other lifeforms not from this planet visiting here then that starts to disprove god even more. It's always going to be a constant battle.
kunnai 1 month ago
@ChandraTheSwift182 Because Jesus never mentioned ALF
JesusChristsDick 4 weeks ago
@ChandraTheSwift182 who cares?
we all know the bible is a bunch of bullshit
but its just moral stories to live your life by
nothing wrong with religion
im not religious i know its all bullshit but why do rabbid atheists try to run around and offend anyone who believes in god?
whats the point
do you feel smarter and better than someone who believes
your fucking pathetic
walmartian555 3 weeks ago
@ChandraTheSwift182 You are right, this dont debunk christ. The bible even says the sons of god came into the daughters of men and bare children. He said the mother of this was human, interesting....
modernrocks 3 days ago
@eyeUeye no it couldnt. thats what all that testing was for. its not human.
ELdesirae 6 months ago
That picture in the video looks like Eckhart Tolle's baby picture???
spikesterg 6 months ago
It's Mac from Mac & Me LOL, Where is the body ?
ManchesterDragon1 7 months ago
I know someone with the similar features. Who do I tell?
michaelidesca 7 months ago
maybe pye was right but we need more evidence we need more the skull to mkae calculation about the dna, genetic and the skull species itself.
ripper269 7 months ago
Dude if this is real and aliens look like that then they look pretty normal and probably are intelligent and are not hostile unless they think we will do something! i could amagine how pretty alien girls could look :O
sulsaboy 8 months ago
Not a stitch of evidence to support this nonsense.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@TheSkepticUn
Yeah, it's not like there have been hundreds of DNA tests.
OntDinRS 8 months ago
@OntDinRS In the public domain, there are reported two DNA analyses done, neither of which demonstrated that the skull was non-human, neither of which demonstrated that it had anything to do with aliens. This guy has been pulling the chain of the gullible, uneducated public for over 10 years talking about this skull, but he has NEVER published a single research paper on the planet to provide evidence for his claims. Just because he uses science-sounding words doesn't mean it's science.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@TheSkepticUn
There is a skull that has been dna tested dumbass.
hamberg42 7 months ago
@hamberg42 How about you tell me all about that DNA testing. Start with the part about how you understand what DNA testing is, then, aside from the two previous tests that showed nothing non-human, tell me how the data indicate that this skull is of "alien" origin in any way. Please, point to where the findings demonstrate this, what the statistical analysis showed, etc. Can you do this "dumbass"?
TheSkepticUn 7 months ago
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blakestortillas 7 months ago
@hamberg42 If you are going to comment on science, then why can't you have the frigging education in science to keep from making yourself look like a total idiot???? D'uh!
TheSkepticUn 7 months ago
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@TheSkepticUn
"If you are going to comment on science, then why can't you have the frigging education in science to keep from making yourself look like a total idiot?"
If you are going to comment on generalities then why can't you have the frigging intelligence to keep from making yourself look like a total idiot?
"science, then" - this comma is improper usage of punctuation.
I have some education in Science; you?
Do you have anymore dumb ass, and assuming remarks good sir?
hamberg42 7 months ago
great video..thx..hehe
lowrider692 8 months ago
@lowrider692 Thank you for the comment!
UnheraldedHero 8 months ago
@UnheraldedHero my pleasure...hehehe
lowrider692 8 months ago
I agree, that a let say blog is not an scientific proof for such research and it can only indicate something has been done. However, an appropriate labour journal and some reviews are required to at least verify, the results presented are not just an error. It's easy to make a fake statements and even pro scientist may miss some significant issue at some point while developing new tests on DNA. At some point journal should exist, so others could repeat tests with similar results or verify them.
TheSWEngineer 8 months ago
@TheSWEngineer With respect, a "blog", as you refer to it, does not indicate that "something has been done", but only that someone claims that something was done. The remainder of your comment is something that any scientist would agree with.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
First do thorough analysis of the remains, then verify hypothesises. However, it's not a crime to make up one at this point, to be verified or busted later.
From the point of view of an engineer, it looks like an early stage of development and tests of new version of life form. Creationism, some may say. But this discovery and lacks in evolution chains still don't exclude that possibility.
TheSWEngineer 8 months ago
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This is a load of nonsense with no basis in science whatsoever. There has never been a single published paper in a single credible peer-reviewed journal on the planet that has ever supported this crap. Funny the difference that an education can make.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
That's one ugly hybrid kid.
pitviper71 8 months ago
If this is so "real" then why doesn't he artificially inseminate a human women with the DNA from the starchild and let it grow to full maturity?
OntDinRS 8 months ago
@OntDinRS You can't just take any dna and mix with a womans. It HAS to be sperm.
SwrodMstrShadowShock 8 months ago
@SwrodMstrShadowShock
No, the cell has to be sperm.
OntDinRS 8 months ago
@OntDinRS That's what I said...
SwrodMstrShadowShock 8 months ago
@SwrodMstrShadowShock
You said the DNA has to be a sperm, no you put the DNA inside the sperm. ;)
OntDinRS 8 months ago
use his dna and plants it insperm
killerdude909 9 months ago
скоро, скоро станем такими ( в лучшем случае) :))
beavismaxim 9 months ago
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This is a load of nonsense with no basis in science whatsoever. There has never been a single published paper in a single credible peer-reviewed journal on the planet that has ever supported this crap. Funny the difference that an education can make.
TheSkepticUn 9 months ago
@TheSkepticUn No, there hasn't been a peer-reviewed paper on this... bit not because it's necessarily is fraud, but because it's simple not mainstream. You have an inflated faith in mainstream science if you expect this. You're trying to dismiss this by trying to ridicule the guy. Isn't the more intelligent and sensible to look at the data offered? Find the flaws and you might have a case.
arscill1 8 months ago
@arscill1 I simply think that if this guy was truly interested in finding out the truth, that he would never name the skull (anything) "The STARCHILD SKULL" before any findings were ever derived. Second, instead of using the lexicon of science to try to convince the uneducated that what he was doing was really science (for more than 10 years now), why not accept the results of the lab tests done and move on? It was already shown to be of human parents.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@TheSkepticUn For claiming to be interested in the 'truth' you don't listen, nor read, the stuff available. The troubles with getting researchers involved and, if I'm not mistaken, also to get the monetary means to get the analysis done is completely lost on you. Your own comment about the wrong name is the true sign of mainstream conformity, it sounds too whacko so it must be fake. Your attitude is a true sceptic's, you've just decided this is a hoax and have closed your mind.
arscill1 8 months ago
@arscill1 I have read all that is available to read and I am sorry, but you simply do not know what you are talking about. My comment about the Name, was simply to point out that we are dealing with someone who doesn't have a clue about how to do science. That the name sounds whacko is not the issue at all. The issue is that he was/is prepared to draw conclusions peior to doing the science. That is pseudoscience. As for being sceptical, any sane person would be sceptical.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@TheSkepticUn Are you really this stupid or are you having fun with me? What is more scientific than having qualified people involved to make morphological comparisons with not only normal human skulls but also with the different deformities suggested by the critics? What is more scientific than having qualified people doing the DNA study? You say you've read it all, but you haven't read anything and is just grasping at straws now to protect you ego. You should be careful with that.
arscill1 8 months ago
@arscill1 When you refer to "morphological comparisons", in which peer-reviewed scientific journal have these comparisons been reported? And in these comparisons published in peer-reviewed journals has anyone ever said that this skull is of "alien" origin? No "PROPER scientist", to borrow your term, has ever endorsed any of this nonsense. Do you really know anything about how DNA analyses are conducted? Do you? Are you really someone with graduate level training in science and research?
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@TheSkepticUn Do you know something? You're boring. What about some independent critical thinking... BEFORE trying to bully your way to 'win' a discussion? It's clear from what you write that you're of the 'guilty until proven innocent' kind of person. You're waiting for someone to tell you that it's safe to be open to extra terrestrials? It hasn't dawned on you that the same attitude is what's stopping material like this to get a break into the scientific world?
arscill1 8 months ago
@arscill1 Do YOU know something? You are uneducated in science and if you think that this is "boring", then that is entirely your perogative. You claimed to have a degree in biology, but that is not the case, is it? You assumed that this was a safe bet to claim (after all, how many people on YT would ever call you on your bs?), but in reality, you don't have a clue about science at all. You have never published a word in a peer-reviewed journal, have you? Again, you got caught trying to bs.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@TheSkepticUn How can I prove my degree without blowing my anonymity? This case is important enough to warrant that, you think? Think again.
arscill1 8 months ago
@arscill1 I was not asking you to "prove" you possess a degree, as you say. The issue is that you do not demonstrate sufficient understanding of science to be able to "publish" or to know what "peer-review" entails. More fundamentally though, you lack an understanding of the scientific method and how research is conducted. Science is NOT reported in a personal website and the absolute lack of findings in any journal should make anyone with your "degree" be very suspicious. You are too funny.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@arscill1 Again, I highly doubt that you have any university training in science and certainly none at the level of scientific publication (DO YOU?) because of the way in which you write. Whether there are ETs is entirely separate from this issue and anyone who has been involved in research is cognizant of such a delineation--you are not. You lack the logic to publish anything above a children's book. Perhaps there is life out there someplace, but there is no evidence of this NOW. SCHOOL!
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@arscill1 Go get the science degrees in university like every other expert on the planet. How does that work for you?
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@arscill1 You say, "What is more scientific than having qualified people involved to make morphological comparisons with not only normal human skulls but also with the different deformities suggested by the critics? " What is more scientific is having the experimental methods, statitistcal analyses, and findings published in credible, peer-reviewed journals instead of some guy with no expertise making wild claims on his personal website with none of the aforementioned. Get the education.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@arscill1 To quote you, "For claiming to be interested in the 'truth' you don't listen, nor read, the stuff available. The troubles with getting researchers involved and, if I'm not mistaken, also to get the monetary means to get the analysis done is completely lost on you." Aside from your pathetic grammar and syntax, you don't know what you are talking about. You write like an idiot. "The troubles with getting researchers involved...? Say what? Who else can do the frigging research, you?
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@arscill1 What do you know about securing research funding? NOTHING. You don't have a frigging clue about how research is done, or how grants are applied for. But I would love you to give me some indication what part of this you actually do know about. Perhaps you feel it is the genetics or molecular biology? Maybe you could explain why, in the first DNA analysis (BOLD, Vancouver, 1999), that there was both an X and Y chromosome, the Y only available from the father? Human parents, no aliens.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@arscill1 I will take a wild swing here and I will assume that you have no training in scientific research. What I ridicule is his 'snake-oil' salesman approach and an obvious lack of understanding in doing so, of science. Any credible scientist on Planet Earth would LOVE to have their name on a discovery that, if true, would be the most profound discovery of Mankind's history. The problem is a simple one: it is a human skull and there was never an "alien" Daddy.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@TheSkepticUn Actually, I've got a degree in biology and have published in peer reviewed journals. I also have some idea about the power play and conformity in the academic world and it's a myth that you easily can get as controversial material published. So the demand for peer reviewed journals is just pffft!!!! Aliens are something it's tradition to ridicule, so bad career move. If you can be bothered to check out the website, however, you'll see that scientists are involved, anyway.
arscill1 8 months ago
@arscill1 In order to publish in a peer-reviewed journal, you would need at least a master's, more likely a PhD, depending on the discipline. Any scientist would JUMP at the chance to have hsi/her name attached to something so profoundly paradigm-altering. If you had graduate level education (which you don't), you would have bothered to asertain that there is not a single "scientist" listed on the website that can be found.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@TheSkepticUn So.. Dr. Eshleman and Dr. Malhi... don't count? Those are the guys that did the preliminary DNA work. What's wrong with them? Took me 30 secs to find them. Everyone would JUMP at stuff like this when it's safe. I'm sure that all the researches that refused to touch it will curse themselves if the final results proves the claims Pye makes. About my degree, you can keep your slander, I know what I have, that's enough.
arscill1 8 months ago
@arscill1 If you have a degree in biology, then don't you question the total lack of data provided, only videos showing something fancy-looking for the uneducated? DNA analyses are not reported using videos or pictures, but in large quantities of data. Where is the statistical analysis? Where are the methods described? None of this has ever been reported and published so that it can be replicated. And then, look at the reasoning for the assertion that the DNA is not of this world. BS!
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@TheSkepticUn IF you could actually be bothered to check out the website and look, I mean LOOK, you'll see that the definitive results are from 2011, while the 2010 results were preliminary. So, very fresh and it takes time to get material out in into journals, very much because of the peer reviewing process. You would also see that the results are being prepared for publication. These videos and reports are targeting the general public, as is also it stated on the web site.
arscill1 8 months ago
@arscill1 If you knew a single thing about science, and scientific research, you would have a clue what you are talking about. "Results" are not found on a personal website, first off, they are published in peer-reviewed journals. Second, how do you know what the "results" were, when you are making your comments, when these results were never published? Get an education in science at the level necessary to do high quality research and then discuss if you want.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@TheSkepticUn Is attempts to slander you're only real tool? You have hit the nail why this subject still exists in the fringe, egocentric 'intellectual' elitism, that holier-than-thou attitude that closes more doors than it opens. You are a prime specimen. I do have a degree, it won't disappear just because you say so, I'm afraid. I've obviously have more insight than you about the hypocrisy within the scientific world. There's an invitation to review the geneticists' work, off you go!
arscill1 8 months ago
@TheSkepticUn Actually, Pye is open to the possibility that it might be something yet, unknown of earthly origin. Have you actually read or heard a single word of what he's saying/writing? He's more open minded than you are. If I were you, I would just be quiet, open my mind and follow the story. I better point out to you, I'm not claiming it's an alien. I'm reacting to your attempts to slander, something quite inexcusable, when you haven't actually studied the case.
arscill1 8 months ago
@arscill1 Once again, yes I have read it all. I am interested less in his repeated narrative than I am in seeing actual results published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal. Do you understand the science here? If you have further comment, I propose that it be on a scientific basis.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@TheSkepticUn I understand very much more of this than you have proved to do. All of your accusations has been disproved, but you keep warbling shrilly about 'science'. If you have read it all, you'll know that the stuff is being prepared for publication (by PROPER scientists even, fancy that eh?)... so why are you throwing all your BS on a film that's not even claiming to be a scientific report? Keep you foul mouth where it's due and look at this video for what it is or simple keep quiet.
arscill1 8 months ago
@arscill1 I am sorry, but you are simply incorrect. There is no "science" in what Pye has presented. I also suggest that you have absolutely no education in science at the university level, nor any experience as a scientific researcher. You are simply reporting what you read on a personal website, when you talk of "PROPER scientists". Perhaps if you knew what you were talking about yourself, you would know better?
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@arscill1 You claim that you have a degree in biology and you have published in peer-reviewed journals. Is that so? First off, you would not be anything but a grunt on the author list for any science publication with an undergrad degree. Second, even with such a degree you wouldn't make such a moronic suggestion to refer to this clown's website because you would know how to find legitimate scientific literature. Don't come on here and try to BS about your (non-existent) background.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@TheSkepticUn You don't give up with your attempted mud slinging do you? I don't care what you think. I know what I've got. About the website, I have enough common sense to look at the material presented, what it claims to be and what it doesn't claims to be. He's perfectly earnest in what he does and he has involved qualified people to do the job, that's what matters. I'm waiting for the future peer reviews of the material before accepting or rejecting his theory.
arscill1 8 months ago
@arscill1 Being "an earnest man" is not relevant, and even if it was, how do you know how "earnest" Pye is? Again, you claimed to have the education in science and you claimed to have published in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, but that is a crock and you don't have a clue. You don't even know how to access the peer-reviewed journals or how to read research. You don't have a clue how statistical analysis should be done, nor of how a DNA analysis is really done, do you?? Go to school.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@TheSkepticUn If that post was a test, you'd scored 0%, down to the point of the DNA analysis. Not the kind done here, I'll grant you that. Time for you to grow up, mate. The person who offer only attempts to disgrace, pull authority and ridicule to a discussion has already lost. You have completely discredited yourself from being taken seriously. You owe Pye an apology for the claims you put in his mouth but which are your own. That is unethical and in certain circumstances illegal.
arscill1 8 months ago
@arscill1 Why do I owe anyone an apology when I am simply stating what science expects--EVIDENCE, and that what Pye (and you by your iname and uneducated comments) has claimed is not at all supported. Now I guess you are an expert in legal matters. You are a frigging joke pal. No, you don't have the degrees in science to know what you are talking about, nor have you ever published in a peer-reviewed journal.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@arscill1 As for the "website" and materials presented therein, that is the first clue that you haven't even taken a first-year university-level science course, because you'd be laughed out of the lecture hall for trying to convince a legitimate scientist that some clown's personal websaite is where you go to find credible scientific findings. Why do goofs like you try to pretned that you know things but really know absolutely nothing about such a topic? You never got that biology degree, did u?
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@TheSkepticUn I got my degree and more... you obviously didn't even pass your ABC. Where did I claim the web site to be proof? I've used it to point out the serious work that's happening, to point out that people with proper titles (nods nods) has done the work and is preparing material that will be peer reviewed. I've also used the website to disprove your accusations that the website is claimed to the final proof. YOU are the only one here claiming it is, not Pye. You owe him an apology.
arscill1 8 months ago
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TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@arscill1 How do you know what work has been done? Simply because you watch these ridiculous videos and read the nonsense on his website, does not mean that anything at all was actually done, under what kind of conditions, by whom, etc., because nothing has ever been published. How can you claim to have an education in science yet nothing close to science has been conducted here? Personal websites are not scientific publications. Go to school!
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@arscill1 When some goof says, "I got my degree and more", I have to chuckle. Was this "degree" something you printed off the Internet? And, by "and more", does that refer to a certificate in delusional thinking? OK, tell me about the variability of the human genome and why Pye's claims that this skull is of "alien" origin must be shown to pass this hurdle before actually making such a claim. Tell me what kind of stats he should be running or what his hypothesis was. Evidence please.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@arscill1 When you refer to a personal website AT ALL, makes your claim to know what you are talking about in terms of science a JOKE. When you talk about "serious work", how do you know: 1) What it takes for such work to be done--do you possess this level of education?? 2) Whether it is being done from this website without a word published about it in a credible journal? You are simply uneducated and you do not know what you are talking about. Get the degrees instead of making up crap.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@arscill1 You say, "Where did I claim the web site to be proof? I've used it to point out the serious work that's happening..." Are you serious? You are using the website without hesitation to refer to "serious work that's happening"...Based on what, some guy's claim that "serious work is happening"? That kind of statement is enough for anyone to see that you don't have the background you claim you have. If you did, you would expect evidence of the "serious work" = "PEER-REVIEW".
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
@arscill1 You say, "Find the flaws and you might have a case." First off, if you had the background in science that you claim, you would know that it is always up to the claimee or investigator to provide the findings, and by extension, the evidence to support the claim. The onus does not befall onto the audience to prove or find "flaws" beforehand. But your point illustrates that Pye can make claims without evidence and this is not science. You wouldn't know one way or the other either.
TheSkepticUn 8 months ago
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TheSkepticUn 9 months ago
starchild doesn't even have a penis :/
Robustbean0 10 months ago
The star child was supposed to be a hermaprodite, this is why the skull deformed
MarcoManetta123 10 months ago
It is postulated that people with occipital bones have neanderthal ancestors.
Antisyzygy 10 months ago
wow so where can i find this documentary?
jamesarongray 10 months ago
@jamesarongray
just watch it here james
zeb120 9 months ago
This is bad news for Jesus.
bigbadosker 10 months ago 13
@bigbadosker
why?
jojo4rmdabronx 10 months ago
@bigbadosker R O F L !!! i would say "amen" to that but im pagan^^
kahetel13 7 months ago
@bigbadosker Not really, it says in the Bible that the "Gods" said let us make man in our image, that they put him in the garden of eden, not created him... The bible is the most amazing book, almost magical and it grows with our knowledge and is always validated
muzapstar 6 months ago
@muzapstar We are creators too and choose our beliefs and our future...
muzapstar 6 months ago
@muzapstar I'm sorry you feel that way. The Bible is a complete crock of shit.
bigbadosker 6 months ago
@bigbadosker Its not bad news for Jesus. Its bad news for you, who dont understand the Bible. When you know nothing about what the Bible says you act foolishly. Based on your comment.
RobertsDigital 6 months ago
@RobertsDigital Oh yeah then why does Jesus like big black cock so much huh? Excuse me I have a bible to go take a shit on. Have a great day fanatic.
bigbadosker 6 months ago
@bigbadosker May the Lord have mercy on you...in the name of Jesus Christ.
RobertsDigital 6 months ago
@RobertsDigital Ok Fanatic thanks. Keep your blessing to yourself. I don't need them nor want them. You people are parasties and one day you will be gone form the earth when people use logic and reason. Not bullshit submissive dogma. Have fun in heaven and my the Lord have mercy on your soul in gay baby jesus name. Amen.
bigbadosker 6 months ago
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@bigbadosker It is written: "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall." (Proverbs 16:18)
Satan was cast down for being very proud.
One day you will come to your senses.
RobertsDigital 6 months ago
@bigbadosker Wether you like it or not Jesus is King over you and you will stand before him (Luke 13:27)
unless you humble yourself and ask for forgiveness. (1 John)
Satan has decieved you into believing that God did not create the earth without acknowledging the God who gave you life.
RobertsDigital 6 months ago
@RobertsDigital Jesus was a raving homo. I prefer my prohpets not suck dick. You can go away anytime fanatic. You people are like cock roaches. Go bother someone else with your dumb as fuck dogma. Thanks.
bigbadosker 6 months ago
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VendPrekmurec 5 months ago
most skeptix are trolls.
occultologist 10 months ago 13
@occultologist
most "occultologists" are retards :p
and its spelled skeptics
so yeah
fromstart2finish 8 months ago
@occultologist nah...trolls are the scholars of skeptics, skeptics are like infants regarding their knowledge and awareness to the trolls. like robots, lost in no where.
Ph4ntom74 8 months ago
this is the bigging of the proof there was is or was aliens!!
kitty20black 11 months ago
...may I take custody of a sample to clone and nuture in full sentients, if possible
~then set the little one free and able to go about teachin by example about the beings free will, perhaps then we'll start to get it, if the example is extreme enough.
docatomics 11 months ago
check out progeria
Jaidwolf 1 year ago
@Jaidwolf not progeria, otherwise why would the skull be so much harder than normal human skull. Progeria produces fragile skulls and other normal features would be still intact.
@skeptoid1974 megalencephaly cannot explain the other major differences in this skull, which includes unusual eye sockets, bone composition, harder bone, no sinuses, larger ear cavities, etc. Furthermore he is not afraid to let scientists look at it because he already knew the skull is highly unusual.
rehsab01 1 year ago
@rehsab01 I was just pointing out how close in appearance they are...the close eyes large head small mouth and how the ears are lower.
Jaidwolf 1 year ago
@Jaidwolf Note that the ears on the Starchild skull are much lower than normal humans as well as children with progeria. The eyes totally different because if it had normal human eyes, it would bulge out like frog eyes. That is how shallow the eye socket really is. I did not make this up... do check Bill Munn explanation of the eyes in the MonsterQuest episode Lizard Monster.
rehsab01 1 year ago
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This is a very clear case of megalencephaly. Cases of megalencephaly are almost ALWAYS symmetrical (NOT asymmetrical), and bilateral, because of the shape of the brain case (it's an approximate sphere). Therefore, pressure exacted in one particular part of the posterior cranium will have a dispersion effect across the remaining surface area of the posterior surface. Unfortunately, people like Lloyd Pye actually profit from this nonsense. There has NEVER been any evidence to support Pye's BS.
skeptoid1974 1 year ago
Another problem with all reconstructions shown is that they all used human features that may not be correct at all. The Starchild may instead actually look like this watch?v=gnWfNzldnnQ Whether it is a fake or (intentionally) leaked photo, the resemblance and features are (chillingly and coincidentally) similar to the Starchild.
rehsab01 1 year ago
Check what Melanie Young said here watch?v=B3Sp9bsLdck (from UFO Hunters episode)
rehsab01 1 year ago
Why no "scientific peer review"? Check this: watch?v=ePUy4npHOmQ
Simply said, due to current dogmatic science policies will not touch highly extraordinary (or "controversial") subjects... like the Starchild skull.
rehsab01 1 year ago