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  • I watched the original UK episode on netflix yesterday and laughed my ass off. I watched this today and cried.... Thank god this crap failed, or else we wouldn't have gotten anything past series 3!!!

  • @SpeckyNation AMEN!

  • omg! what is wrong with americans?! why cant they just watch something and exept that its made by a different country? why do they have to steal it and make it american for fuck sake! we british dont remake all their films becuase we are intelligent enough to understand multicultural humour. the next thing you know there will be an american Harry Potter! lol

  • They just can't do it, can they.

  • Makes me think of 'Back to Reality', when Lister views the next group playing the "game" just after he walks out of the recuperation lounge. "Hey Kochanski.. shaddup." :>

  • What the honest fucking hell are they doing? Surely Red Dwarf wouldn't sell out to the americans anyway.

  • omg poor red dwarf! I mean the real one.

  • WHATTHEFUCKAMIWATCHING? Every one of my five senses is burning worse than a bout of gonorrhea.

  • that is not an accurate Rimmer, Rimmer is supposed to be the only Semi-sane one, it was better between Lister and Cat because they had both lost it.

  • Thank god this never happened.

  • how can they tell the exact same joke, virtually word for word, and not be even slightly funny?

  • Loved it. I guess all you moaners didn't realise that this was written and directed by Rob and Doug. I got to speak to Rob about it in London and he told me what happened. They were really disappointed when the show never got picked up. So disappointed that they put this together in a last ditch attempt to keep the project alive.

  • @BubbleFairy1986

    Hear, hear on the Lister bit.

    He's suppost to be scuzzy and filthy. This American Abomination even got most of the popcorn in his mouth! Blasphemy!!

  • Smeg off.

    It was supposed to be Lister and Cat, not Lister and Rimmer, and half the lines were given to the wrong person anyway.

    Gimme the Original anyday. -.-*

  • Wow that was...original

  • OH! MY!! GOD!!! They so stole that from the UK Red Dwarf!

  • @BigSteve300 They stole everything from it sadly. Why do they try to make things like this stand up to the fame and just general awesomness of the originals. I mean come on, look at it...or do they have to translate into a form that non-uk citizens can understand >.<

  • the original chat with Cat and Lister IS SO MUCH BETTER!!! God damn this blows!!

  • They haven't even kept it right, this scene was originally with The Cat and Lister not Rimmer and Lister the scene wouldn't and doesn't work with Rimmer. The Americans have totally fucked this one up. You can't remake a classic.

  • is this off some stupid sketch show or is this a legit pilot? either way it mucks up the lines so brilliantly executed by cat and lister.. :3

  • typical americans taking somthing british and good and ruining it!

  • Unbelievably bad. The actors arent even funny, they don't even understand comedy or timing the way they deliver the lines compared to the uk version, horrible.

  • How can americans ruin everything.

  • @syncmaster710n14

    Woa there boy, I think Doug Naylor did a pretty good job of cocking up Red Dwarf after series 6 anyway.

    Maybe this Yank version rubbed off on him a bit too much.

  • All America seems to do nowadays is remake/ copy things. How creative.

  • Ok I am American AND I do get British humour(see that, I spelled it the non american way ) British comedies should never ever EVER be remade into american ones, they are just AWFUL. American Coupling was awful, from this clip I can see American Red Dwarf was a damn travesty, and if they ever tried to remake AbFab I'd lose it. And why the hell does American Lister look like a friggin male model blech

  • British comedy is (usually) about class divides. As America doesn't have the same class divisions, the comedy has to rely on gags - a classic case being '2 people talking at once' which is a US staple and never used in the UK. Look at shows like The Office - David Brent is desperate to be a part of a higher class bracket which he'll never reach, Dawn and Tim cross class boundaries too. The US version can't use those nuances so is a different show - still pretty good, but different.

  • Still think The Origianl Red Dwarf is the best.

  • well yer americans dont get british humour they dont get british sarcasm which is the foundation of all good uk comedies. though big bang theory does have a little bit of english sarcasm in it

  • Why is the idea of a tall, handsome, well-built Lister so repugnant to me?

  • Lister's meant to be everyday-slob, that's why. Tall, handsome, well-built Lister fails to make the jokes work, and ... well ... just fails. They're not meant to be perfect.

    Besides, Brit!Lister looks so much better than USA!Lister, somehow. <3 Liverpudlian dialect ftw.

  • american accents always fail when they are trying to do comedy,they always sound like they are trying to hard to be funny and they are only makeing it even worse. British accents sound serious with every joke,thats what makes them even funnier,

  • a lot of SMEG

  • please tell me this isn't serious. ive become used to americans hijacking most of our shows, but to take the single greatest sci-fi/comedy of all time is pure blasphemy!

  • Wait america take everything, this is just crap to the real version absolute Smeg

  • Like watching a high school play with a couple of sophmore's aping the dialogue. Accept no substitutes....the original Red Dwarf IS the versions Americans want to see, t hank you very much! If some production company tries to make an "American" Mighty Boosh, I will hunt them down and drown them in their own rendered fat!

  • The original version of this conversation between Lister and Cat cracked me up, but I didn't laugh at this once. I think it's the American accents that kill the lines. Especially American Rimmer... Chris Barrie FTW.

  • No, what really kills it is that in the original, cat got in on the joke with him. In this one it's just Lister with Rimmer as a sounding board.

    It's the little things that determine whether a gag will work or not.

  • what a load of SMEG!

  • The American accent killed it, made it sound terrible.

  • "you didn't steal it, but still made a pigs ear out of it. "...Siiiigh...you mean the USA writers AND Rob and Doug, yes? (since they HELPED write it)...

  • "Stupid Americans stop stealing our shows! "...I just addressed this misconception in another post here...no one "STOLE" anything...the original RD creators SOLD the show rights to USA investors and even helped write the script for the new version...blame THEM as much as anyone...no offemse, you Brits create the best stuff on TV...but we didn't STEAL anything.

  • lol brits make em yanks steal em aussies watch em =P

  • you didn't steal it, but still made a pigs ear out of it.

  • Wow.. it just.. doesn't work.. Terrible script but if the Brits had said it. They would of made it work.

  • The Brits did say it, in Red Dwarf III, but it was Cat and Lister and Cat actually agreed with Lister that Wilma was sexy.

  • So the americans steal our show, well TRIED and failed, as they tend to copying UK shows, and took it word for word.

    Just shows that the British are funnier :D

  • "So the americans steal our show"...Ummm...lets be straight here, and place 'blame' where it needs to be placed...the original RD creators SOLD the show to US investors and even wrote the script for the USA version...they were as much to blame as ANYONE.

  • oh it just sound so wroooong in an American accent! We can sometimes pull it off (the American Office, for instance is passable) but this is just terrible!

  • I wonder if they went so far as having 'Dog' rather than Cat. I wouldn't put it past them..

  • They have taken the whole conept of what Red Dwarf is and they've thrown it in the bin! Not meaning to be disrespectful, but you can never beat the original Red Dwarf!

  • they wreaked red dwarf they fukin wreak everything

  • FAIL.

  • wow those americans really do have NO origionality!

  • @ben2971 - We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service ours. :P

  • Well,

    The second pilot was a one day shot at trying to get the show back on track.

    We shot it in the old Peoples court stage in Hollywood.

    This was produced by Rob and Doug, under exstream pressure.

    I was the art director/ FX guy/ wardrobe/ you name it.

    It was doomed and yes the original was the best to be sure.

    But I tried to be true the the source with no time no money and under the gun at every step.

    Best

    Peter Greenwood.

    Red Dwarf USA. pilots 1 & 2.

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  • Just like your spelling!

  • was Robert Llewellyn in this too?

  • Wasn't that joke in the original and the best red dwarf? Stupid Americans stop stealing our shows!

  • Aye, pretty much word for word, although Cat was in the place of Rimmer and he agreed with Lister. Also, I think they were on Starbug, and that looks like Red Dwarf.

  • i uploaded the first part of the pilot episode restored from a VHS of mine

  • why do americans steal our tv shows?

  • yes.

  • wow...I'm glad this never got aired here in the states. Who thought that this was a good idea?

  • What absolute wank, i heard it was shit but i'm staggered how shit it truly is!

  • this is proper wank...yanks are crap at everything...i cant belive people watch that shit...english version all the day ...

  • That was beyond awful. It's not often I truly am proud to be Britsh, but in the space of one minute it just happened in a big way.

  • I am an American...and I hate this...haha

    Theres no such thing as Red Dwarf USA, cuz the only Red Dwarf that I know is Red Dwarf UK...

  • I wonder why it was axed? LOL Craig Charles all the way +++++

  • Also, for those of you wondering, the reason why the conversation in this one was with Rimmer instead of Cat is that they made Cat a female (played by Star Trek: DS9's Terry Farrell), and she was supposed to be more of a hard-ass and risk-taker. Still, didn't realize Chris Eigeman (Rimmer) couldn't act in this.

    And before the Brits get too high and mighty about their comedy, produce 24 episodes in 8 months of a show every single year and see if the quality is still there.

  • Personally, I'd rather have 6 good episodes per season, than 24 shit ones.

  • I still say the US version of Coupling was more of an abomination than this was. God, that was so painful to watch.

  • ..... Wow.

    They just managed to suck all the charm and funny out of the joke . . .

    AND fuck up the punch line.

    FUCK this shit.

  • I cant believe this ....I'M UTTERLY SPEECHLESS...not a speck on the original..thank god it never got on the air ..A TOTAL INSULT!

  • How to utterly remove the charm of the original product: follow this thing's example. I like in particular how they even swapped the Cat for Rimmer. Why, may I ask? A completely abysmal translation of a classic comedy.

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  • smegging smeged up smeggers. I hate the smegging way they put the words USA in their smeggy american colours.

    Smegging pricks.

  • I wish laugh tracks had never been invented.

  • why ruin red dwarf, america?!

    WHYYYYYYYYY???!!?!?!?!

  • I can't believe what they did

  • It never made it on the air, so it theoretically doesn't exist.

  • Alias "How to ruin everything" by fuckin' USA

  • You can't blaim them for doing this, they're american

  • i feel like i just been kicked in the balls

  • Oh, these actors can smegging well smeg off, those annoying little smeggy smegging smeggers!

    Smeg.

  • no rhythm no soul, no humour. epic stillbirth

  • red dwarf cannot be recreated, especially by the americans, the scouse and posh british accents of rimmer and lister were part of their personalities.... plus they cant be beaten!!

  • Holy shit.

    There is one very big reason visible here why this was always going to fail. Not a single American will ever carry off sarcasm to the level and expertise of Chris Barrie as Rimmer in the REAL Red Dwarf.

  • LISTER HAS THAT CONVERSATION WITH KAT NOT RIMMER. WHAT IS THIS

    --hates amierca--

  • bull shit!

  • WANKAGE ...PROPA WANKAGE!!!

  • Not...right...at all...

  • that was shite, like! Lister was savage, the good 'ol loveable scouse curry eating slob but all around nice guy is way better than that guy as is the stiff arse smeg head rimmer do they even have the same names if u gave lister those lines they would have been great

  • they are just taking the same words, but not saying it in a funny way, its like a version worse than the original, and there is no new jokes at all, im dissapointed,i want a new red dwarf but with he same actors you cant beat the best can u?

  • 10th, 11th, 12th and 13th of Apil this year, on Dave.

  • Their (USA) acting is too serious, they need to lighten up like ours.

  • nah we just have no concept of the humour that Naylor and Grant tapped into. We just don't get it here.  Which is a shame really... I love RD

  • Can't touch British comedy... the subtle, dry wit is posessed by only a few.

  • red dwarf is british thats the way it was and thats the way it will always be.

  • Besides, they are portraying the characters all wrong in this scene. It's supposed to be the Cat and Lister talking about this, why is it Rimmer and apparently Lister in this version?

  • Nothing beats British Comedy..We are the masters!

  • Absolutely pathetic compared to the English version.

    Same thing applies to The Office.

  • @SeoDragon117 Agreed, I didn't crack a smile at this.

    Disagree, I actually like the american version of The Office.

  • This is silly...

    BRITISH Red Dwarf rulezzz :-)

  • It doesn't exactly have the charm of the real Red Dwarf

  • I'm an American and I am deeply offended by that clip. What the smeg are they doing?!?!?

  • How did they make that unfunny?

  • Fuj to je HUMUS ! BLE BLE BLE BLE BLE ! fuj ! Strašný děte do prdele, To je pouhá KARIKATURA RED DWARF !

  • Well more to the point, I do really dislike some Americans, ones who are really annoying!

  • Not all Americans of course! Don't get me wrong at all. Just the silly ones. And the idiots like those producers of this show.

  • This is what I hate about Americans. They can't accept ANYTHING that's not American!!

    I mean, we accept things that aren't British!

    So does the rest of the world who accept things that aren't theirs! Why can't yanks accept it as well? Prime examples: Thunderbirds is British and had to be sold to an American market because the producer yankee idiots wouldn't watch it, Thomas and Friends dubbed with Americans, they even wanted to make HARRY POTTER American!! ENOUGH ALREADY!! Do your own shows!!

  • You DO realize that about 90% of Americans have no effect on what you're cimplaining about...

  • Utter shit... wow.

  • NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO­OOOOOO! Make it stop! Make it stop! Make it stop!

    I mean, they even ripped off original Red Dwarf dialogue to the pauses! Bloody smegheads.

  • grrr yet another bad thing to come out of america this is an insult to my eyes and ears ffs woop woop big up the original rd

  • Please don't insult all of the americans for this crappy version.

    It's not all their fault.

  • This just goes to show that british comedy is the best you can get! Everything that the americans copy from us never even compares!!

  • Suck this stupid american version...

  • This wouldn't have been so bad at all, if we all weren't so familiar with the original.

  • Just terrible. And I think all the American people who it already.

  • FUCKING WANK!!! Why couldn't the American TV chiefs just except the original British one?

  • I have seen the firey depths of Hell, and this is what it looks like! Bosch! Rodin! Dante! Amatuers all! I saw the whole pilot at MySpace vids, and it made me want to beat about the heads and face every American producer who gets it in their tiny skulls to make a BritCom for us poor stupid Americans who don't know that a Hoover is a vacuum cleaner. Don't do it! Americans love the British version; we don't need it chewed up and spit out for us as if we were mewling wolverines. JUST SAY NO, USA!

  • there are some things that can only be made by one country. And Red Dwarf is one of those things that only the british can make.

  • Lister just doesn't look gross enough for me.

  • Hahah, British version is exponentially better. xD

  • Why cant americans just be happy with the British episodes!?

  • What do you think, we all had a vote and decided to remake it? "Voting for the President today .. and don't forget to vote on Red Dwarf USA!" "Americans" ARE happy with the original version. As a huge fan of the series I am absolutely ecstatic that these atrocities were never broadcast.

  • wrong wrong wrong wrong.... wtf this sgould never hae happened... its all wrong.... this scene for a start is Lister talking with the CAT... not rimmer.. and why is rimmer dressed as ace rimmer already... wot muppets... AND also why is the cat a woman ?? The reason the cat was so funny is bcoz its a bloke that loves himself... and its funny.. wots new about a woman loving themselves ?? nothing....

  • just imagine if the British made a remake of the A-Team and Mr T was skinny and white ??? you would have to agree tht it will be wrong...

  • True, first they rip off our tv then they steal the exact same jokes?!

    WTF?!?!?!

  • absolutely shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • worst thing in the history of the world u can't beat the good old egnlish acting and accents this is like something a kid created in his treehouse

  • Yeah, that was a poorly adapted scene and the acting stank. I think what really kills it though is how perfectly worded and well delivered the original scene was. It was never going to compare well.

  • this is horrible - i'm glad it died

  • I dont think it's all that bad.

  • omg they ruined one of the best scenes in red dwarf

  • Take out the canned laughter and......no way, this is really shit.

  • Bierko's a pretty decent actor, but the humour and timing of the original scene got sucked out of that one.

  • 'Twas never meant to be.

  • way to fuck up classic British comedy

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