I am agnostic...maybe there is maybe there isn't..surely out of all the religions in the world why pick JUST one? I have traveled and literally lived all over the world and I say maybe everyone has it right and maybe everyone has it wrong..perhaps the spirit of creation manifest itself to different culture differently perhaps not...I love living in the gray zone :) As for ANYONE harking on a believer or non believer, that is more HATEFUL then LOVE and christ talked about LOVE
If i were to claim that there was a teapot on the dark side of the moon with a dwarf in it
,who would be responsible for proving the teapot was there.Should someone else have to prove that the teapot isn't there?No. Atheists don't believe in god ,not because there is proof that there is no god,but because there is no proof for a god.
@Soul4JC So i've been drinking from a teapot with a dwarf in it? Do proof of any teapot on the moon. Kind of like theres no proof of a god. I repeat NONE. I would love to hear some proof , because if you gave me any you would be the first person ever to give anyone proof of god.
Incidentally,accepted science does indeed show how everything CAN come from,what you would call 'nothing'.It's just that you don't really understand the concept of 'nothing'......
The whole point is about proving what IS,not what ISN'T!! Atheists don't make supernatural claims.The burden of proof lies with those who do!! Surely logic this simple is not beyond spoon-fed theists?
If you think something doesn't exist you don't need proof, it's up to whoever says that the object does exist that needs to provide evidence for it's existence. Asking someone to prove something doesn't exist is nearly impossible in an infinitely expanding universe. Actually it shows a common theist misconception of why we are atheists, not because of evidence that there is no god, but because there is no evidence for a God.
Tell you what. Give me your single beast argument that god exists. But if I can refute it logically and/or scientifically , will you concede that god does not exist?
The very question he asks in this vid is a deceitful question, as it requires no answer and he posits it as if it does. And while he claims evidence for god he never has presented anything of the kind. His goal is to fool people by any means necessary to believe what he believes. As it has been with religion for as long as it has existed.I feel sorry for those who have been fooled, but I loath those who perpetuate the destruction of reason and logic.
@alianchild What is deceitful is that atheists have NO proof for God's non-existence and try to push their beliefs on others. Christianity proves that it's not mere opinion, but that Christ showed Himself through His death, resurrection and through all of creation. Atheism is also considered a religion, might I add.
I feel sorry for those who are blind and choose to stay that way without researching the facts for themselves.
Btw... Reason and logic says everything can't come from nothing.
@Soul4JC Atheism is not a religion. It is the rejection of a claim that has no evidence to support it. Jesus resurrection has no evidence that supports the claim. And science, physics to be exact, supports the something from nothing theory. If you believe that something cannot come from nothing then you must deny god. This is logic little christian, time you tried some of it.
@Soul4JC Here is my "proof " for gods nonexistance. I will now pray for god to kill me............................................................................................Sorry, no dice. There is my proof. Now that sounds stupid doesn't it. That is how stupid your attempts to prove god does exist sounds to us. We see your errors and point them out but you never accept them because you are blinded by "faith". Which is why we feel sorry for you.
@alianchild No need to feel sorry for us. The truth is out there and for those who are stubborn, continually ignoring God will come face to face with undeniable truth. God luck with that.
@Soul4JC I would believe in that circumstance. So why does he not reveal himself to me? He knows what it would take to convince me, if he wants us all to accept him then it is up to him to reveal himself in the way it would matter most. But he obviously refuses too, or he does not exist. This is the theists conundrum. You claim he wants us to believe, but then refuses to do what is necessary to make believers out of the most intelligent and reasonable of us.
shock is a despicable excuse for a christian, let alone a human. He is a pathological liar and has the morals of a rattlesnake crossed with a rabid weasel.
The Holy Scriptures are foolishness to those that perish.
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lust and saying, where is the promise of His coming? For since the Fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the Creation.
For this they are willingly ignorant of. 11 Peter 3:3-5
If you're asking us to disprove the existence of god, then my answer is that you cannot disprove the existence of god. Just like you cannot disprove the existence of unicorns. That doesn't mean however that we should belive in unicorns. Atheism is a lack of a belief based on a lack of evidence. The burden of proof is on the person claiming that a god exists, just like the burden of proof would be on the person claiming unicorns exist.
@jimsms The evidence of God is unlimited. If we're not willing to explore these facts, then we're being biased and just going off what another atheist said. Are you willing to go through the evidence? Check out the site.
Atheism is also a belief; a belief that there is NO God and since the atheist is in the minority.. the burden of proof is on them.
@Soul4JC Where is the evidence for gods existence? If you have some I'd love to see it. And no just because atheists are in the minority that does not mean the burden of proof is on us. You are the one claiming that a god exists. Therefore the burden of proof is on you. Atheists are not the ones making a claim, we are just rejecting your claim.
This question doesn't make sense. Are you asking us to provide evidence that atheism exists? or are you asking us to disprove god? In either case the question is meaningless. If you're asking us to prove atheism exists, then my answer would be that I am an atheist, and I know many people who are also atheists. Therefore I know that atheism exists.
@Soul4JC thats simple....atheists don't have to answer that question. the burden of proof is on YOU. i know there is no god just like i know that there is no pink elephant in the sky.
@Soul4JC The question itself is a christian avoidance tactic. Atheists have been asking for evidence of your claim that a god exists ever since the idea of a god was presented, thousands of years, tens of thousands. And no evidence has ever been presented, EVER. So sh-tofgod decided to do the deceitful christian thing and change the rules to suit him. That is a dishonest tactic. And he knows it.
@alianchild The evidence has been shown (200+ prophecies fulfilled by ONE man), but was never accepted by most. Jesus Christ could stand and look you in the eye and show you His pierced hands, feet and sides and you still wouldn't believe. Believe what you want, but the truth remains.
@Soul4JC Vague prophecies , and silly stories that need excessive amounts of special pleading and imagination to connect. If you believe that, I have some nice swampland in Florida to sell you.
@Soul4JC Evolution is a fact. Plain and simple. The theory of evolution based on common ancestry is a collection of all those facts. Creationists have never presented any evidence whatsoever to support creationism or intelligent design. I pity you.
@alianchild Scientists say that the fossil record is proof and when it's refuted because of the fallacy of the carbon dating system (circular reasoning), the turn around and say and I quote.. "We don't NEED fossils to prove evolution!".
@Soul4JC What theists always site is less then 1% of dating tests. These are known as anomalous readings. Carbon and radiometric dating methods have been proven to be accurate in 99.2 % of the time when a proper sample is provided. How ever you,christians, say the bible is true because the bible says its true. This is not just circular reasoning but total lunacy.
Or, ask the equivalent question "The idea of a null hypothesis confuses me, and evil atheists on YouTube laugh their asses off at me all the time. What can I do?"
@Gnomefro Education?? Where should I start evolution? So called science that has not been tested nor proven?
If you wanna believe you came from a primordial soup that no one can prove was there "in the beginning".. go ahead. But remember this. There is a God.. Yahweh, who created you and loves you very much; who wants you to be in heaven with Him when you leave this earth.
Since someone who has never heard of gods would not believe in them, atheism clearly doesn't claim that no gods exist. In fact, atheism doesn't make any claims at all. It merely refrains from claiming that gods do exist. Since it makes no claims, it can't be wrong. Since it can't be wrong, it must be accurate and correct.
I am agnostic...maybe there is maybe there isn't..surely out of all the religions in the world why pick JUST one? I have traveled and literally lived all over the world and I say maybe everyone has it right and maybe everyone has it wrong..perhaps the spirit of creation manifest itself to different culture differently perhaps not...I love living in the gray zone :) As for ANYONE harking on a believer or non believer, that is more HATEFUL then LOVE and christ talked about LOVE
davisfontanes 1 month ago
If i were to claim that there was a teapot on the dark side of the moon with a dwarf in it
,who would be responsible for proving the teapot was there.Should someone else have to prove that the teapot isn't there?No. Atheists don't believe in god ,not because there is proof that there is no god,but because there is no proof for a god.
MeAmAPeople 1 year ago
@MeAmAPeople You've been drinking from that teapot all your life, but still choose to deny it's existence..
Soul4JC 1 year ago
@Soul4JC So i've been drinking from a teapot with a dwarf in it? Do proof of any teapot on the moon. Kind of like theres no proof of a god. I repeat NONE. I would love to hear some proof , because if you gave me any you would be the first person ever to give anyone proof of god.
MeAmAPeople 1 year ago
@MeAmAPeople I'm sure you've heard it all, but still choose to ignore. You've seen it everyday of your life.
Soul4JC 1 year ago
Incidentally,accepted science does indeed show how everything CAN come from,what you would call 'nothing'.It's just that you don't really understand the concept of 'nothing'......
ABALVINO 1 year ago
@ABALVINO LOL!!
Soul4JC 1 year ago
The whole point is about proving what IS,not what ISN'T!! Atheists don't make supernatural claims.The burden of proof lies with those who do!! Surely logic this simple is not beyond spoon-fed theists?
ABALVINO 1 year ago
@ABALVINO Is logic material or not?
Soul4JC 1 year ago
If you think something doesn't exist you don't need proof, it's up to whoever says that the object does exist that needs to provide evidence for it's existence. Asking someone to prove something doesn't exist is nearly impossible in an infinitely expanding universe. Actually it shows a common theist misconception of why we are atheists, not because of evidence that there is no god, but because there is no evidence for a God.
tomtom6464 1 year ago
There is any proof he doesn't exist!
This is true, there isn't any (justifiable) proof he does though.
(including the websites you link to, they are opinions of people, not proof)
He fulfilled prophecies!
Most of which were written after he died. I could do the same.
atheists ignore proof!
Some ignore 'proof', all question it, most search for different answers. Unlike teaching evolution to a creationist...
If I'm shown proof, that is *not* 2000 years old, I will examine it. deal?
andystealth88 1 year ago
reason and logic say that it is impossible for something to come from nothing!!!
quantum physics disagree though.
carbon dating is wrong!
luckily we have thousands of other ways to date things, and in no way at all do we rely on carbon dating.
Atheist push their belief on others!
some do, I agree, though most don't. Same as theists. some preach, others don't.
Most of either are still compelled to defend their opinion though.
(part 1)
andystealth88 1 year ago
Tell you what. Give me your single beast argument that god exists. But if I can refute it logically and/or scientifically , will you concede that god does not exist?
alianchild 1 year ago
And by the way, sethmusic has a valid and logical point. Theists never have.
alianchild 1 year ago
The very question he asks in this vid is a deceitful question, as it requires no answer and he posits it as if it does. And while he claims evidence for god he never has presented anything of the kind. His goal is to fool people by any means necessary to believe what he believes. As it has been with religion for as long as it has existed.I feel sorry for those who have been fooled, but I loath those who perpetuate the destruction of reason and logic.
alianchild 1 year ago
@alianchild What is deceitful is that atheists have NO proof for God's non-existence and try to push their beliefs on others. Christianity proves that it's not mere opinion, but that Christ showed Himself through His death, resurrection and through all of creation. Atheism is also considered a religion, might I add.
I feel sorry for those who are blind and choose to stay that way without researching the facts for themselves.
Btw... Reason and logic says everything can't come from nothing.
Soul4JC 1 year ago
@Soul4JC Atheism is not a religion. It is the rejection of a claim that has no evidence to support it. Jesus resurrection has no evidence that supports the claim. And science, physics to be exact, supports the something from nothing theory. If you believe that something cannot come from nothing then you must deny god. This is logic little christian, time you tried some of it.
alianchild 1 year ago
@Soul4JC Here is my "proof " for gods nonexistance. I will now pray for god to kill me............................................................................................Sorry, no dice. There is my proof. Now that sounds stupid doesn't it. That is how stupid your attempts to prove god does exist sounds to us. We see your errors and point them out but you never accept them because you are blinded by "faith". Which is why we feel sorry for you.
alianchild 1 year ago
@alianchild No need to feel sorry for us. The truth is out there and for those who are stubborn, continually ignoring God will come face to face with undeniable truth. God luck with that.
Soul4JC 1 year ago
@Soul4JC What am I ignoring that would bring me to believe in god? Evidence? I don't think so. If you have evidence, present it.
alianchild 1 year ago
@alianchild I'm not one to beat a dead horse. Like I said, Christ could appear to you and shows His scars and you still might not believe.
Soul4JC 1 year ago
@Soul4JC I would believe in that circumstance. So why does he not reveal himself to me? He knows what it would take to convince me, if he wants us all to accept him then it is up to him to reveal himself in the way it would matter most. But he obviously refuses too, or he does not exist. This is the theists conundrum. You claim he wants us to believe, but then refuses to do what is necessary to make believers out of the most intelligent and reasonable of us.
alianchild 1 year ago
shock is a despicable excuse for a christian, let alone a human. He is a pathological liar and has the morals of a rattlesnake crossed with a rabid weasel.
alianchild 1 year ago
@alianchild And who are you might I ask? Do you know Shock personally?
Soul4JC 1 year ago
@Soul4JC All you need to do is watch his vids and if you are a sane rational and honest person you will see the slime-ball in his natural habitat.
alianchild 1 year ago
@alianchild Plz give me an example, cuz I have no idea what you're talking about.
Soul4JC 1 year ago
The Holy Scriptures are foolishness to those that perish.
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lust and saying, where is the promise of His coming? For since the Fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the Creation.
For this they are willingly ignorant of. 11 Peter 3:3-5
crossdaily1 1 year ago
@crossdaily1 THANKS!! Was looking for that :o)
Soul4JC 1 year ago
If you're asking us to disprove the existence of god, then my answer is that you cannot disprove the existence of god. Just like you cannot disprove the existence of unicorns. That doesn't mean however that we should belive in unicorns. Atheism is a lack of a belief based on a lack of evidence. The burden of proof is on the person claiming that a god exists, just like the burden of proof would be on the person claiming unicorns exist.
jimsms 1 year ago
@jimsms The evidence of God is unlimited. If we're not willing to explore these facts, then we're being biased and just going off what another atheist said. Are you willing to go through the evidence? Check out the site.
Atheism is also a belief; a belief that there is NO God and since the atheist is in the minority.. the burden of proof is on them.
Soul4JC 1 year ago
@Soul4JC Where is the evidence for gods existence? If you have some I'd love to see it. And no just because atheists are in the minority that does not mean the burden of proof is on us. You are the one claiming that a god exists. Therefore the burden of proof is on you. Atheists are not the ones making a claim, we are just rejecting your claim.
jimsms 1 year ago
@jimsms "Where is the evidence for gods existence?"
Look in the mirror
knoketj 1 year ago
@Soul4JC Atheism is a position based on reality. Theism is a position based on fantasy and fear.
alianchild 1 year ago
This question doesn't make sense. Are you asking us to provide evidence that atheism exists? or are you asking us to disprove god? In either case the question is meaningless. If you're asking us to prove atheism exists, then my answer would be that I am an atheist, and I know many people who are also atheists. Therefore I know that atheism exists.
jimsms 1 year ago
how to make an atheist facepalm: ask a stupid question that sugest you dont know anything about the burden of proof
cahtush 1 year ago
lolz
polystyleneman 1 year ago
thats hilarious. christians are so delightfully dumb.
sethmusic 1 year ago
@sethmusic Another gr8 atheist avoidance tactic. Just ridicule without answering the question.
Soul4JC 1 year ago
@Soul4JC thats simple....atheists don't have to answer that question. the burden of proof is on YOU. i know there is no god just like i know that there is no pink elephant in the sky.
sethmusic 1 year ago
@sethmusic The proof is there. Check out the site. Then it's your turn..
Soul4JC 1 year ago
@sethmusic Can you prove it? No. Never.
Soul4JC 1 year ago
@Soul4JC The question itself is a christian avoidance tactic. Atheists have been asking for evidence of your claim that a god exists ever since the idea of a god was presented, thousands of years, tens of thousands. And no evidence has ever been presented, EVER. So sh-tofgod decided to do the deceitful christian thing and change the rules to suit him. That is a dishonest tactic. And he knows it.
alianchild 1 year ago
@alianchild The evidence has been shown (200+ prophecies fulfilled by ONE man), but was never accepted by most. Jesus Christ could stand and look you in the eye and show you His pierced hands, feet and sides and you still wouldn't believe. Believe what you want, but the truth remains.
Soul4JC 1 year ago
@Soul4JC Vague prophecies , and silly stories that need excessive amounts of special pleading and imagination to connect. If you believe that, I have some nice swampland in Florida to sell you.
alianchild 1 year ago
@sethmusic ..and atheists a gullible to believe evolution.
Soul4JC 1 year ago
@Soul4JC Evolution is a fact. Plain and simple. The theory of evolution based on common ancestry is a collection of all those facts. Creationists have never presented any evidence whatsoever to support creationism or intelligent design. I pity you.
alianchild 1 year ago
@alianchild Scientists say that the fossil record is proof and when it's refuted because of the fallacy of the carbon dating system (circular reasoning), the turn around and say and I quote.. "We don't NEED fossils to prove evolution!".
Soul4JC 1 year ago
@Soul4JC What theists always site is less then 1% of dating tests. These are known as anomalous readings. Carbon and radiometric dating methods have been proven to be accurate in 99.2 % of the time when a proper sample is provided. How ever you,christians, say the bible is true because the bible says its true. This is not just circular reasoning but total lunacy.
alianchild 1 year ago
Or, ask the equivalent question "The idea of a null hypothesis confuses me, and evil atheists on YouTube laugh their asses off at me all the time. What can I do?"
To which the answer is - Get an education!
Gnomefro 1 year ago
@Gnomefro Do you believe God exists? Yes or no?
Soul4JC 1 year ago
@Gnomefro Education?? Where should I start evolution? So called science that has not been tested nor proven?
If you wanna believe you came from a primordial soup that no one can prove was there "in the beginning".. go ahead. But remember this. There is a God.. Yahweh, who created you and loves you very much; who wants you to be in heaven with Him when you leave this earth.
Soul4JC 1 year ago
Asked and answered. Next.
sakar181 1 year ago
@sakar181 Do tell..
Soul4JC 1 year ago
This is too easy.
Since someone who has never heard of gods would not believe in them, atheism clearly doesn't claim that no gods exist. In fact, atheism doesn't make any claims at all. It merely refrains from claiming that gods do exist. Since it makes no claims, it can't be wrong. Since it can't be wrong, it must be accurate and correct.
Chuck1863 1 year ago
@Chuck1863 Atheism DOESN'T claim that God doesn't.. That's a first. YOU my friend are a unique atheist. Doesn't make sense.
Soul4JC 1 year ago
...thats it.... wow I feel like im being rick rolled or something.
outlawstar00000 1 year ago
@outlawstar00000 Do you have the answer? Would love to hear it..
Soul4JC 1 year ago