The devil is losing and at the end will be accused of all the crimes. Live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form, following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and deception of devil. Jesus Christ is the savior, love and hope.
Excellent video post! The truth is exposed and while some of the people realized what the agenda was / is, far too many didn't or don't desire to educate themselves and will help Agenda 21 destroy America and our Constitutional Rights. Wake-up America before it's too late! Keep up the great work my friend. Peace!
EXCERPT: Salutations, Major General Albert "Bert" N. Stubblebine III: with the utmost respect....for your ability to have......survived this long. Keep the Feast | Wingless Marks & All: "an 'ole-time pal".
accumulating all this information should help them brainwash us better if we dont agree with how they want to do things.notice how every movie out there is in the city.single,married or children you must live in the city.NO!
Why do we have to do Regional Plans in built areas that get in ways of other people's business?
Why not have regional plans that are marketed, offered, and not coded with new laws in VAST MILES EMPTY VACANT AREAS ?
To everyone who wants new high-density to large-lot single family housing let us all build them in new vast empty lands outside of the urban areas instead!
Let competition and flexibility rule!
Join my alternative planning and design movement called Cyrus Planning!
Looking at the site, most people chose "Planned Future". This is the plans of MTC and ABAG aka the people holding this meeting. What a deceptive option! What they're really going to get is "Most Urban". People would have been better advised to select BAU, not that it would have mattered, I suspect. Truth is eminent domain is used and abused for these ends. Say goodbye to your freedoms if you don't resist.
1) It's the old South Park scenario of voting between a douchebag and turd sandwich.
2) Things look extremely vague.
3) The speakers are condescending as all hell.
4) The speakers won't answer the tough questions.
5) The Rockefellers are not your friend. And please, before saying the Rockefellers have nothing to do with this, do some fucking research. This Greenbelt group has ties to the Club of Rome.
watched the rest, what a bunch of hooey. they did not want to talk about how private property rights would be affected, I guess it is a hot potatoe. in fact it is these very rights they want to take is the very rights that allows them to strive for change and travel and do what they want at taxpayers expense, in china they would of been thrown in prison for even attempting to change anything.
who decides the greater good? who is this greater good? who decides what is sustainable and not? who decides what right is okay to exercise and what is not? why do these people feel better able to create a true sustainable development plan then say me and my friends? what makes them smarter than me? the very rights they claim is a cause of enviromental damage and poverty is the same rights they are exercising to do what they are doing, a true socilist place would not allow all of this.
More evidence that the Tea Party thrives on ignorance and unfounded conspiracy theories. If you don't like the fact that 1+1=2, make something up and justify your theory by refering to other ignorant paranoid whackos as if they know something beyond their own bizarre opinions. I attended 2 "One Bay Area" meetings and thought the process made the choices and costs very clear. Nobody told anyone what to think or where to live.
Conspiracy? You guys need to lay off the weed... or maybe just get some better stuff. The question is how can regional gov'ts get the most out of their limited budgets. This is the stuff they came up with, it's a democracy, folks.
@westerlySojourner Ron Paul is the only presidential candidate I've heard speak against Agenda 21. All the candidates are mute on the subject. Some people from BOTH parties have bought into the idea of global government. The occupiers in Wall Street have called for it. It's real -- and it's coming fast -- the destruction of the American Constitution! (Good luck "Democrats Agains UN Agenda 21" keep up the good work!)
This video is proof that there are nefarious powers trying to take away our private property rights
The whole entire forum is set up NOT to take questions within a democratic process, nor to talk about what their agenda is really about. It is a very conrolled situation, and the multiple choice answers have planned results. Even the music they play at intervals is wierd-some of the music had certain themes that were disturbing. Trying to subjugate people to this agenda will NOT work.
To find an explanation of how Agenda 21 is already working in America, search You Tube for "How your community is implementing AGENDA 21" and check out the video of the lady with long white hair. She's a liberal speaking to conservatives and they are joining in their fight for justice regarding Agenda 21.
To find an explanation of how Agenda 21 is already working in America, search You Tube for "How your community is implementing AGENDA 21" and check out the video of the lady with long white hair. She's a liberal speaking to conservatives and their joining in their views regarding Agenda 21.
My take on this, is that he and the people he represents are using great sales techniques. One of the techniques is frame questions in such a way, as to get the other person to respond exactly the way you want them to. The person thinks he is part of a conversation that has essentially been orchestrated from the start, and not in his favor.
This is just a way to take away people's Constitutional right to private property, and make the people believe it was their idea.
It's weird that these adults do not realized they were just Con by a group of people that just applied a few easy steps of persuasion. Armed with limited knowledge of the issue.
1. Talk in authoritative voice
2. Complement the group on their Knowledge base right after Questions you either don't have the answer too or a question that do not fit your agenda at the same time deflecting the question.
3. Give them the illusion of power and that you are here to serve them.
Wow San Francisco they pretty much treated you like a bunch of kids and totally ignored you. Thank god I live in Seattle our hippies would of had these idiots for dinner..
To whoever shot this video...would've been better to be able to see the screen of data instead of watching that "bozo" in the blue shirt standing there pretending to gather information, but then maybe not!...What a scam!!! This country is LOST!!!! The future of Amerikkka is one big FEMA camp!
"Workshop"? "Choice"? "You choose"? Blah, blah, blah, blah. Whatta a load of manure. They simply want to TELL YOU what YOUR opinion is. THEY prioritized according to Global Warming/Cap and Trade Carbon LIES and want more commuter railways, which is a huge waste of our money. Obama really pushes railroads and racking and stacking people. They don't want people to have their own transportation. BS. Crap. Progressivism and Alinsky at it's evil worst. Anti-Republic. Loss of freedom.
LOSS OF LAND, PROPERTY, VEHICLE. DO YOU NOT THINK THIS WILL AFFECT YOUR JOB, MONEY, TRAVEL, FOOD, KIDS, SCHOOLS, POLICE, WATER, COURTS, ,?,,,,, PUT A HUNDRED PEOPLE IN AN ELEVATOR AND SHUT OFF THE ELECTRICTY AND ENJOY. AGENDA 21 PEOPLE ARE FRAUDS AND ARE SELLING OUT YOU AND THEIR COUNTRY,,,,,, YOU CAN FIGHT THIS ON A TOWN HALL LEVEL,,,,,THEY LIVE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD,,,,,,SOME ARE IMPORTED,,,,,BEWARE OF THEIR SILENCE WHEN CORNERED,,,,,THEY WILL COME BACK, RUST NEVER SLEEPS, FAKE 70'S CRISIS?
This meeting is infuriating. The attendees' questions and concerns are glossed over or completely ignored altogether. The redheaded douche from Greenbelt wouldn't even answer the simple question of who they were!! People were pissed so the videographer simply cut out their microphone around 1:20. The public's "choices" are made FOR them by people who are being PAID and/or BRIBED to choose specific things by the highest paying corporate influence. WAKE UP, CITIZENS!!
This meeting is infuriating. The attendees' questions and concerns are glossed over or completely ignored altogether. The redheaded douche from Greenbelt wouldn't even answer the simple question of who they were!! People were pissed so the videographer simply cut out their microphone around 1:20. The public's "choices" are made FOR them by people who are being PAID and/or BRIBED to choose specific things by the highest paying corporate influence. WAKE UP, CITIZENS!!
These people are not here to give their opinion. They are there to give this agenda credibility in that, "We asked the people! This is what they said they wanted! These are the issues that concern them the most!" These plans are already underway.
lol... i like how obvious it is that he was trying to use music so that questions wouldn't be asked during the voting sessions, no breaks in order to keep people away from discussions. People have real questions but they are ignored
lol... i like how obvious it is that he was trying to use music so that questions wouldn't be asked during the voting sessions, no breaks in order to keep people away from discussions.
I made my choice several years ago, I packed up my family a moved to a free state. I am so glad I don't have to be surrounded by these NWO zombies telling me what I'm going to think.
they are going to win! they are braking down socicity so you have nothing(no assets) no jobs,nothing! the U.N. wants total control of the world and your soul! young people really dont care about anything other then what they look like so their easy! if you want a u.n. controlled world then do nothing! you people better wake up,grater good,who in this world really wants something good for you! WAKE UP PLEASE!
Are we surprised that this was done in California, especially San Fran? Why is it that the people of California have voted their States greatness away? Why is it that they are so easily lead through the nose? Perfect area to start it here in the US.
@LoveVanillaRose Behind the Plan? The UN which "manages" attainment of the NWO at the behest of "practicing" child-sacrificing satanists Rockefellers/Rothschilds, the Queen, their minions Bushes/Rockefellers/Blair etc. They are speeding things up because so many people are now onto them; they have a target date of 2012 for martial law and killing people in FEMA camps. The ones left will be herded into a FEW hi-rise cities. Only the ELITES will be able to leave. YOU will be a slave.
What's more...the globalists are in a BIG HURRY to own Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, Syria etc. Next they'll send in their CIA BOYS to crank up rebellion in Saudi Arabia so they will own ALL THE OIL. Then they'll CUT OFF oil to America. The US military is being used as a TOOL for GLOBALIZATION, and the American Treasury has been ROBBED for the same reason. (See Pastor Lindsey Williams' youtubes)
We are having a similar predetermined outcome meeting for what they call "Urban-Rural Edge Project". Just another implementation of Agenda 21. These pinheads are trying to force their agenda on us and make it look like we wanted it.
HERDING is the correct term. I attended OneBayArea's so-called "Envision" meeting in Marin County, north of San Francisco, in May. People caught on fast, that the facilitators were using this oh-so-cozy named software "YouChoose" to make the participants think they were "choosing" priorities like "clean air," "conserve water," (really!?) and "conserve open space." This is Central Planning with a warm, fuzzy, New Age gloss. The elites are coming after your freedom. Now.
This was THE most poorly run meeting I have EVER seen in my 33 years of work experience. The main gist was HERDING the crowd, NOT listening at all, trying to SHUT DOWN ALL QUESTIONS, or trying to "put them off" until the END of what "little" data was presented, and then SKIPPING OUT ON ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS -- ESPECIALLY MR. GREENBELT.
SO....their GOAL is to use U.S. money to accomplish their HERDING INTO CITIES goals. $200 billion transportation. HOLD ALL QUESTIONS TILL THE END WHEN I'M GONE, PLEASE....DON'T BOTHER ME NOW. I'M NOT HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. Mr. Greenbelt's spiel is pitiful.
The audience asked the GREENBELT guy several times about his company and what they do. He REFUSED to answer, finally saying they were non-profit and worked in the SF area, and they could look it up in the brochure. VERY STRANGE HE DIDN'T WANT TO DESCRIBE HIS COMPANY. His speech didn't make any more sense than the speeches of the others.
The black lady and Facilitator are up there "at the 30,000 ft level. BRAVO FOR THE PEOPLE ATTENDING AND ASKING VALID REAL QUESTIONS compared to the FLUFF facilitators. FIRE THE FOOLS IN AGENDA 21.
We don't want to HEAR your "stuff", Agenda 21! They just want everybody to SIT DOWN and SHUT UP.
Now the black lady takes over when the questions over private property get tough, and states she can't answer questions. SHE'S ONLY "EQUIPPED" THIS MORNING TO DEAL WITH THE QUESTIONS ON THE SCREEN. IF THERE ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY QUESTIONS, THEY NEED TO BE TAKEN UP WITH THE "LOCAL" GOVT. THROW THEM OUT!!!!!!
@OpposedToMoses You're the DIPSHIT, JERK! You obviously don't read! All you have to do is google "AGENDA 21" to see it's run by the U.N. and has been for at least 30 years. Now it's being cranked up bigtime, as are ALL the U.N.'s nefarious plans at the DIRECTION of the "practicing" satanists globalists Rockefeller, Rothschild, the Queen, Bushes/Clintons "their minions", Soros and the rest.
@99barrels First of all Agenda 21 is from 1992: not quite 20 years ago. Second, where in the meeting was the UN involved? This was a group of local governmental and nongovernmental organizations. Finally, with the satanists, globalists rothschild and so on, I suspect I could get you to believe anything. I just have to preface it with "They don't want you to know..." Please stop being so gullible. Tinfoil hats are not cool.
@OpposedToMoses It's older than 1992. I've been reading about it since the early 80's, and it was planned WAY before that. AGENDA 21 is a UN plan (another one of those "if we do it under the UN name, they can't accuse "us" of doing it). Do a little googling "Agenda 21 +U.N."
@OpposedToMoses PLEASE STOP TELLING PEOPLE TO STOP QUESTIONING THEIR RULERS. Just because you are content in your ignorance doesn't mean the rest of us "tinfoil hat" wearers will lie down and surrender graciously. There is much more going on behind the scenes than mainstream media are allowed to cover. So start being proactive and research EVERY possibility, not just what They are telling us.
@InfinityPlus24 I never said that people shouldn't question their rulers. I just feel they should be rational and demand evidence for the things they promote. 99Barrels seems like the sort of person that would believe any conspiracy theory regardless of the lack of evidence. Paranoia doesn't do any good.
The man conducting the survey has a voice that grates on my nerves. He had the NERVE to tell an attendee to be "respectful" of him, when he is brushing all of them off right and left, REFUSING to answer their questions. He's a JERK!
Let's move right along, folks. We don't have time to HEAR what you have to say. We've already GOT our plans. All we want you to do is check the box so we can PRETEND we're actually gathering data. SEEMS TO ME THE "DISCUSSION" should take place BEFORE the "SURVEY". Bunch of JERKS putting on this seminar. The agenda is pre-determined...they just need to SAY they had # bodies there who AGREED WITH THEM. I would vote 5 on everything.
Many of us attended four of these meetings and they were all the same. Crooked answers or "we'll get to that later". So why did they ask for 'public input' in the first place?
There were question/comment sheets for any questions that weren't addressed during the seminar. What's so difficult about this? How were the answers crooked?
This Agenda 21 speaker says they NEED your input. The problem is they have already FORMED their plans, and as astute attendees are saying, none of their so-called "CHOICES" apply to the "normal" American lifestyle. They INTEND TO CHANGE THE ENTIRE AMERICAN LIFESTYLE TO ONE THAT CROWDS ALL U.S. CITIZENS INTO A FEW CROWDED CITIES with Gestapo tactics to insure YOU DON'T LEAVE THESE CITIES, and have no personal transportation. This whole "you-choose" FARCE should be REJECTED OUTRIGHT BY AMERICA.
I was wondering why the video was getting hit so much. Stay tuned. We're attending the meeting this Friday (June 10th) in which these Bozos will report their findings to the MTC. I also shot a video on Monday at the East Bay Tea Party where Agenda 21 was explained quite clearly. Should be up today or tomorrow.
Agenda 21 has been planned for years and years as part of the NWO to move all people into crowded cities with no vehicles and the NWO would confiscate ALL the property. In the first few mins of this video I saw the words "IMMINENT DOMAIN" on the literature which, in effect, is the government confiscating YOUR property. SAY "NO" TO AGENDA 21!!!!!!
SAY "NO" TO THE UN, AND LOBBY TO RID THE US OF THEM.
Wow! This gave me goose bumps! Bravo Bay area!!! These people are total sleaze and it's great how they were squirming and stumbling when you called them on their BS. BRAVO!!!!
Beware of AGENDA 21. This will evolve into rationing and control in the scheme of GLOBAL GOVERNMENT. Please check out MICHAEL SHAW'S excellent research on AGENDA 21.
You may wish to check out these two interviews about the wicked U.N Agenda 21 and its destruction of the Western civilisation which is only appealing to the Delphi Technique brainwashing of today; watch?v=WISDmjAMm2U and watch?v=utYwroQ2QhY so many people have become genocidal and hoodwinked they make Hitler look sane.
SPREAD THE WEALTH. FUCK YOU AGENDA 21. NOT MY MONEY. I WILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO TAKE OVER MY LIFE, WILL YOU? OF COURSE YOU WILL. THOSE THAT HAVE NOTHING WILL TAKE YOURS. I DON'T SEE OBAMA GIVING HIS MONEY OUT TO ALL OF THESE LOSERS.
this coffee and and these muffins all have Prozac please eat and drink and dont make trouble...and just vote yes on the ballots. oh wait the thats what the Prozac is for...lmao....god you would need it to listen to her all day....eeeeeeekkkk depressing to know that the way I live is in the hands of really weird individuals.
yep forced agenda 101 agree with the guy at 5:30 "make you believe its your idea"...lol...yep classic communism -pretty soon you will not be able to breath or fart with out asking permission....this is the Germans SS wet dream...lmao fema camps here we come.
In case it escaped you, the suburbs of the Bay Area are now cities packed with stores and industry. The suburbs no longer exist here. Most people MUST DRIVE to commute to work because they simple live too far from their job. If they move closer and need to change jobs, what would you have them do? Sell the house, uproot the kids and move? Get real. High-rise condos in downtown Pittsburg or Oakland and buses are not the answer. Better cars powered by natural gas is a start.
Does that mean that me as a bike lane using cyclist am a supporter of this world government agenda? Just because I take Bay Area Rapid Transit makes me a socialist. Because I use a Clipper card means that my every single move is being tracked by the NSA?
Can we all just forget about all this obstructionist BS and get shit done? inb4commentapproval
No. It meas that you are an innercity dweller and are free to do what you want, while others may not want to live there. We also don't want our tax dollars go for more urban development and public transportation that is used by a mere fraction of commuters. And by the way. This has all come about because of the great "Global Warming scare" of 2007, which most people do not buy into... And what "s--t" do you want to get done? Build more taxpayer subsidised greenie crap?
@cvminutemen It doesn't matter if people believe in global warming. The overwhelming scientific consensus is that global warming is occurring and is caused by humans. Why should tax dollars go towards expensive suburban infrastructure? Why should people have to pay for your sewer lines and your roads?
Why should people have to pay for YOUR public transportation and YOUR point of view? Most of the global warming crisis was disproved two years ago when the "hockey stick" graph was exposed as a hoax. And with the weather cooling recently, the believers were forced to re-label "global warming" as "climate change". They felt that with the new name that they were covered either way against the evil humans... Talk to the Chinese and Indians about pollution.
@cvminutemen Why pay for my point of view? How about the fact that it is a more efficient use of money and resources? What is this nonsense about recent cooling? 2010 is tied with 2005 as the hottest year on record. Sure the Chinese and Indians have pollution problems, but so do we. Denying science isn't going to make things any better.
@cvminutemen It's not cooling... yet. The warming has reached a plateau, meaning that the temperature isn't changing anymore, which is troubling for AGW believers. The unprecedented solar activity of the last century is now in decline, so the cooling should come soon. That's the only reason the last decade had all those record temperatures as OpposedToMoses said. It's still at the peak. Never mind his idiotic claim of scientific consensus, anyone who's looked into it knows it's not true.
@UnReal31337 what so you want to say yes to this plan a nd make it a dream of every one else to live on top of everybody else just cause you like it? Agenda 21 is a bad thing...read it! Its not just the bay area- ITS THE WHOLE DAMNED COUNTRY. think about reading the agenda 21 documents...all of it. and then vote-rather maybe you wont vote, but protest these decisions.
The purpose of this meeting was simply to create the illusion that individuals in these communities support their agenda. The people who attended this meeting and others like it across the country have been used and should be angry that their "input" reveals only the blatant attempt by these "non-profits" to manipulate them.
@dteselle exactly....and the job for us to keep finding these people who are being taught t his agenda the actual agenda of the UN AGENDA 21 programs.
"Choices that you get to make" Ha,Ha,Ha...Her: Let us violate your rights and tell you what to do, so we can get a bribe, [oops did I say that out loud?] I mean grant, from the Federal government. I need that extra money to be able to accomplish great things and plan your future, even though that is treason because I am working with a foreign power [the U.N.], I don't want you to challenge me on this, If you do, you will be put on a terrorist watch list. Please don't film this. Public meet?
stack em and rack em just like in china why do you think feds bought 13 million acres last year so there will be no more private property .If you people in Cali fall for this you get what you deserve.Why is he playing these songs to make you feel guilty,that you have a house and he doesn't listen this is just a another power grab by Obama this is the green movement Al Gor won't give his mansion up neither will any of phony wood all the rich will stay in their homes and you jerks will live partme
I've read many of the comments on to the video's. People, you have to get out to these meetings!!! Don't just sit and complain get out!!!! Take action!
You are absolutely right! If the 70% of Americans who are upset at the direction this country is going in took action, we could change things in a matter of years. Don't just "wake up" people, get busy!
I just watched the second half of this and I have to say that I'm pleased that people are objecting - it obviously took the speakers by surprise.
What's interesting about those who organize such things are so obviously pleased with themselves for being "movers and shakers" in such "righteous" works.
Thanks for taking the time to watch it - it's long, but revealing. I'm happy that YouTube recently extended my account from a 15 minute per video limit to several hours per video.
"there are moments of opportunity that change history; before the loma prieta earthquake the opposition to tearing down the freeway was too strong to overcome, but when the earthquake damaged the freeway, it opened a window of possibilities, a chance to imagine things differently. And we are in one of those moments right now; where the decisions that we make over the next year, will have major implications for what the bay area looks like two decades from now."
@kodiaq112 This type of governmental thinking doesn't need exotic HAARP thingies to make moves on your property and rights. Weed and Seed, Urban renewal (Housing Act '49), Robert Moses's entire tenure in New York. Now the Green religion has added a comprehensive approach which is POPULAR, more than any of the others.
Everyone needs to search for "Sustainable Development [your state name]" and find org hired by your gov in your area. This is just for the bay area of California... blah blah blah... These nazis must be stopped.
I love it how question that he doesnt want to answer he tells them to write comments for submission. This guy might sound kind, but he has evil ideas.
@vVv11511vVv man its a form of guilt while you anwser.I am going to double up on burning gas use alot more wood drink alot more water in plastic bottles .This guy must have been born from nazi descendants.String the little fuck up by his balls so he could never have children.Green nazi left wing commie fuck.Gerbals remember that name.Dude you hit it on the head experiment,ginny pigs
We've had local governments for this sort of thing for hundreds of years. Many of us feel they operate better locally instead of having to check and make sure it is okay with the New World Order...
or having a New World Order telling us what we decided.
As a former student of Architecture I can see where they are coming from with their Greenbelt preseration desires. The way we have built is destroying nature and open space in our environments but I do not agree that architects and city planners should have the right to pack us all into one LARGE apartment or mixed use complexes. My last project design in my 2nd year was this exact project. They make it seem like it's about conserving open space but they are really ridding ppl of their freedom.
What RIGHT does some new world order group like 'Greenbelt Alliance' have to tell these people where they can live??????????? The UN is taking away your property right under your noses at the local level which means you MUST get out to your town and city meetings.
@nhteaparty Oh my GOD!!!! A regional citizens group has put pressure on the regional governments for about 50 years and now has a seat at the table. How dare those citizens try to influence the government and the future!
@nhteaparty Please explain how something at the state regional level is unconstitutional. Doesn't the 10th Amendment leave all unspecified powers to the states? If the states give room for regional planning organizations, wouldn't they then be legal?
Please read the full article of the same title on the NH Tea Party Coalition's website posted on 5/13/2011... notice some of the questions they have to answer were on the American Community Survey????.
im going to go out on a limb and assume that that entire room was full of liberals who were brainwashed into liberalism. then they realize they have been just had. hillarious.
As a former Airline pilot , who traveled the world for 13 years - I have seen better!
As soon as my son is finished with school here I,m moving back to Southern Brazil, far far away from this stupid, brainwash, zobified, sheeple filled place:(
They are using the "delphi technique" in this meeting with trained facilitators. Standard fare for the UN Globalist agenda. It is very effective at manipulating people and making them believe they had a say so in the planning. What a crock of crap these lefties spew.
rightsideofhistory The UK is the upper crust of the new world order. Americans. which you so easily acuse of masterminding the new world order, is nothing more than a UK puppet. The victory of 1776 has been successfully reversed!
America has become the 'trigger' of the new world order. Leading the charge into the battlefields of the phoney wars of the 20th and now 21st century, but they are only the trigger, they only think they are more important, European bankers control it all
@Clubdj14 Good! Then Canada, the UK, and everybody else will be relieved that we won't have to be towed into your bullshit war machine that's draining all of our money and brothers' lives.
@Clubdj14 And be sure to keep your surprise down as all the UN countries ditch the US dollar as the world reserve currency, as you abandon us, we abandon you. Perfectly smart to end alliances, right? Watch the US crumble as the next USSR, another great consumptive empire fall to the ashes of poverty and burning out their engine at 9000 RPM for the last 50 years. It all has an end, my friend. Keep bringing it closer faster with your conservative bullshit. Although end is inevitable anyway.
Bottom Line: INDIVIDUAL "FREEDOM" IS UNSUSTAINABLE when it comes to living together in towns and cities. The days of 500,000 people in the whole country has become 500,000 people in ONE NEIGHBORHOOD. Unless we're all going to spread across the vast nation and live miles apart, the current model of consumption, individual motorization, living 10 miles from work, etc... historians will look back in awe at how dumb we were. Collectivism, socializing, and community is all that will work longterm
So are you suggesting that we all live in 40 story condos located in downtown areas? Packed in major cities like rats in cages?? If that works for you, then do it. But don't try to force me to do it. Forcing someone to do something against their will is down right UN-AMERICAN, which is why we are so upset with your "logic".
@cvminutemen That's where we're going - that is the fate of this consumption paradigm. Rats in cages. Yes. But they can be nice homey comfortable cages. It's what you make of it. I assume you have never been to China (1.5 billion people). Well I have. It's a whole different paradigm. You want a lawn and a picket fence and your own house? hahahaha Where are you going to put all the people! I didn't say this paradigm applies to rural areas. But this is the long term fate of cities.
Frankly, or birthrate is down. So the only way that we'll get as over populated as China is by continuing to allow illegal immigrants into the USA who will dramatically increase the birthrate. I say keep them out and only allow legal immigration to occur, and then only immigrants who have something to offer us other than a strong back. It's all connected
@rightsideofhistory you my friend have it absolutely wrong. very very wrong. you are the type of person that is unsustainable with your absolute socialist ideals. you have misconstrued the very ideals of the golden mean - which is democracy. get on your UN bandwagon. face it. your ideals will bring the earth to a halt. not because of humans but by your ideology that does not rule by reason. consumption and consumerism is based on the very ideals of corporate fascism not CAPTALISM. IM READY
Baking the cake! these people are being treated like total idiots. Why dont they all just stand up and say NO we dont want it and good bye. What the hells wrong with people.
"WHAT IF" some strong hearted patriots stood up and demanded this manipulator go back to D.C. & fix the following 6 items? 1) Election Fraud ...2) Terrorist Training Camps on U.S. soil ...3) National debt increase of over 8,000% in just the past 30 years ...4) Political Corruption ...5) Socialized Health care ...6)Illegal Immigration Crisis
GOOGLE CAJeffO Index ---- then see page #1 & item 5
This is one of the reasons why Ron Paul wants the US out of the UN
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The devil is losing and at the end will be accused of all the crimes. Live at the full in the freedom of GOD (praying in a right form, following the INSTRUCTIONS in the Bible - keeping the 10 commandments - including keeping the Saturday as the 7th day etc.) instead of in the incapacity and deception of devil. Jesus Christ is the savior, love and hope.
diptdipt 2 weeks ago
Ron Paul is the only candidate who will uphold the U.S. Constitution!
djjsilkfarm 3 weeks ago
Excellent video post! The truth is exposed and while some of the people realized what the agenda was / is, far too many didn't or don't desire to educate themselves and will help Agenda 21 destroy America and our Constitutional Rights. Wake-up America before it's too late! Keep up the great work my friend. Peace!
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EXCERPT: Salutations, Major General Albert "Bert" N. Stubblebine III: with the utmost respect....for your ability to have......survived this long. Keep the Feast | Wingless Marks & All: "an 'ole-time pal".
CarCriticAssessor 1 month ago
accumulating all this information should help them brainwash us better if we dont agree with how they want to do things.notice how every movie out there is in the city.single,married or children you must live in the city.NO!
notserenity 1 month ago
This is clearly fascist banker socialist communism - IN AMERICA !!!!! disgusting
silverbullx 2 months ago
These videos get me fired up and makes go crazy and urged up to stop this insane ICLEI, Sustainible Development process!
I hope I can pass flyers and protest the F*ck about this!
Cyrus992 2 months ago
Why do we have to do Regional Plans in built areas that get in ways of other people's business?
Why not have regional plans that are marketed, offered, and not coded with new laws in VAST MILES EMPTY VACANT AREAS ?
To everyone who wants new high-density to large-lot single family housing let us all build them in new vast empty lands outside of the urban areas instead!
Let competition and flexibility rule!
Join my alternative planning and design movement called Cyrus Planning!
Cyrus992 2 months ago 3
Looking at the site, most people chose "Planned Future". This is the plans of MTC and ABAG aka the people holding this meeting. What a deceptive option! What they're really going to get is "Most Urban". People would have been better advised to select BAU, not that it would have mattered, I suspect. Truth is eminent domain is used and abused for these ends. Say goodbye to your freedoms if you don't resist.
s0cietysreject 3 months ago
Five big glaring problems:
1) It's the old South Park scenario of voting between a douchebag and turd sandwich.
2) Things look extremely vague.
3) The speakers are condescending as all hell.
4) The speakers won't answer the tough questions.
5) The Rockefellers are not your friend. And please, before saying the Rockefellers have nothing to do with this, do some fucking research. This Greenbelt group has ties to the Club of Rome.
s0cietysreject 3 months ago
watched the rest, what a bunch of hooey. they did not want to talk about how private property rights would be affected, I guess it is a hot potatoe. in fact it is these very rights they want to take is the very rights that allows them to strive for change and travel and do what they want at taxpayers expense, in china they would of been thrown in prison for even attempting to change anything.
TheRosa63 5 months ago
who decides the greater good? who is this greater good? who decides what is sustainable and not? who decides what right is okay to exercise and what is not? why do these people feel better able to create a true sustainable development plan then say me and my friends? what makes them smarter than me? the very rights they claim is a cause of enviromental damage and poverty is the same rights they are exercising to do what they are doing, a true socilist place would not allow all of this.
TheRosa63 5 months ago
More evidence that the Tea Party thrives on ignorance and unfounded conspiracy theories. If you don't like the fact that 1+1=2, make something up and justify your theory by refering to other ignorant paranoid whackos as if they know something beyond their own bizarre opinions. I attended 2 "One Bay Area" meetings and thought the process made the choices and costs very clear. Nobody told anyone what to think or where to live.
dobiegee 6 months ago
Conspiracy? You guys need to lay off the weed... or maybe just get some better stuff. The question is how can regional gov'ts get the most out of their limited budgets. This is the stuff they came up with, it's a democracy, folks.
westerlySojourner 6 months ago
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@westerlySojourner Ron Paul is the only presidential candidate I've heard speak against Agenda 21. All the candidates are mute on the subject. Some people from BOTH parties have bought into the idea of global government. The occupiers in Wall Street have called for it. It's real -- and it's coming fast -- the destruction of the American Constitution! (Good luck "Democrats Agains UN Agenda 21" keep up the good work!)
vechorik 4 months ago
This video is proof that there are nefarious powers trying to take away our private property rights
The whole entire forum is set up NOT to take questions within a democratic process, nor to talk about what their agenda is really about. It is a very conrolled situation, and the multiple choice answers have planned results. Even the music they play at intervals is wierd-some of the music had certain themes that were disturbing. Trying to subjugate people to this agenda will NOT work.
tigerhop 6 months ago
Da business leaves and the scum moves in---Obama's mindless "democracy" mobs hell bent on social and economic destruction. I spit on them!
IdolHans 6 months ago
what a bunch of government communist bastards---throw them into the bay along with their personal property.
IdolHans 6 months ago
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To find an explanation of how Agenda 21 is already working in America, search You Tube for "How your community is implementing AGENDA 21" and check out the video of the lady with long white hair. She's a liberal speaking to conservatives and they are joining in their fight for justice regarding Agenda 21.
vechorik 6 months ago
To find an explanation of how Agenda 21 is already working in America, search You Tube for "How your community is implementing AGENDA 21" and check out the video of the lady with long white hair. She's a liberal speaking to conservatives and their joining in their views regarding Agenda 21.
vechorik 6 months ago
All of these things could be done by private enterprise, and not have some gov't regional planning commission telling you what to do.
gabbydeb 7 months ago
My take on this, is that he and the people he represents are using great sales techniques. One of the techniques is frame questions in such a way, as to get the other person to respond exactly the way you want them to. The person thinks he is part of a conversation that has essentially been orchestrated from the start, and not in his favor.
This is just a way to take away people's Constitutional right to private property, and make the people believe it was their idea.
gabbydeb 7 months ago
It's weird that these adults do not realized they were just Con by a group of people that just applied a few easy steps of persuasion. Armed with limited knowledge of the issue.
1. Talk in authoritative voice
2. Complement the group on their Knowledge base right after Questions you either don't have the answer too or a question that do not fit your agenda at the same time deflecting the question.
3. Give them the illusion of power and that you are here to serve them.
grownman455 7 months ago
Wow San Francisco they pretty much treated you like a bunch of kids and totally ignored you. Thank god I live in Seattle our hippies would of had these idiots for dinner..
grownman455 7 months ago
Agenda 21 - Fuck them, they are communist vermin. There going to have to use force. Never going to submit. God Bless America.
CFCJesterFool 7 months ago
To whoever shot this video...would've been better to be able to see the screen of data instead of watching that "bozo" in the blue shirt standing there pretending to gather information, but then maybe not!...What a scam!!! This country is LOST!!!! The future of Amerikkka is one big FEMA camp!
mobiadvisor 7 months ago
@mobiadvisor
Why do you spell America with 'kkk'?
cvminutemen 7 months ago
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@mobiadvisor The future it will be super high tech humans, can't have drugs involved!
bikines 3 months ago
stargarnet65 7 months ago
@38- 40m They don't want to get into detail, they just want to get your consent,
so they can say "look at their answer, they approve that private land should be given to the government. for the better good, someone else.
They don't a discussion, it's just , trust us , don't worry listen to our hip music, see we're with the people, trust us.
CON ARTIST
divineprocess 8 months ago
Where are the suicide bombers?
fjerins 8 months ago
LOSS OF LAND, PROPERTY, VEHICLE. DO YOU NOT THINK THIS WILL AFFECT YOUR JOB, MONEY, TRAVEL, FOOD, KIDS, SCHOOLS, POLICE, WATER, COURTS, ,?,,,,, PUT A HUNDRED PEOPLE IN AN ELEVATOR AND SHUT OFF THE ELECTRICTY AND ENJOY. AGENDA 21 PEOPLE ARE FRAUDS AND ARE SELLING OUT YOU AND THEIR COUNTRY,,,,,, YOU CAN FIGHT THIS ON A TOWN HALL LEVEL,,,,,THEY LIVE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD,,,,,,SOME ARE IMPORTED,,,,,BEWARE OF THEIR SILENCE WHEN CORNERED,,,,,THEY WILL COME BACK, RUST NEVER SLEEPS, FAKE 70'S CRISIS?
ashtin1958 8 months ago
This meeting is infuriating. The attendees' questions and concerns are glossed over or completely ignored altogether. The redheaded douche from Greenbelt wouldn't even answer the simple question of who they were!! People were pissed so the videographer simply cut out their microphone around 1:20. The public's "choices" are made FOR them by people who are being PAID and/or BRIBED to choose specific things by the highest paying corporate influence. WAKE UP, CITIZENS!!
InfinityPlus24 8 months ago
This meeting is infuriating. The attendees' questions and concerns are glossed over or completely ignored altogether. The redheaded douche from Greenbelt wouldn't even answer the simple question of who they were!! People were pissed so the videographer simply cut out their microphone around 1:20. The public's "choices" are made FOR them by people who are being PAID and/or BRIBED to choose specific things by the highest paying corporate influence. WAKE UP, CITIZENS!!
InfinityPlus24 8 months ago
These people are not here to give their opinion. They are there to give this agenda credibility in that, "We asked the people! This is what they said they wanted! These are the issues that concern them the most!" These plans are already underway.
kreendurron 8 months ago
lol... i like how obvious it is that he was trying to use music so that questions wouldn't be asked during the voting sessions, no breaks in order to keep people away from discussions. People have real questions but they are ignored
kreendurron 8 months ago
lol... i like how obvious it is that he was trying to use music so that questions wouldn't be asked during the voting sessions, no breaks in order to keep people away from discussions.
kreendurron 8 months ago
This is what Communism looks like.
TheKevinMKelly 8 months ago
I made my choice several years ago, I packed up my family a moved to a free state. I am so glad I don't have to be surrounded by these NWO zombies telling me what I'm going to think.
123karismith 8 months ago
they are going to win! they are braking down socicity so you have nothing(no assets) no jobs,nothing! the U.N. wants total control of the world and your soul! young people really dont care about anything other then what they look like so their easy! if you want a u.n. controlled world then do nothing! you people better wake up,grater good,who in this world really wants something good for you! WAKE UP PLEASE!
MUSTBUYRIGHT 8 months ago
Are we surprised that this was done in California, especially San Fran? Why is it that the people of California have voted their States greatness away? Why is it that they are so easily lead through the nose? Perfect area to start it here in the US.
AndreaMN 8 months ago
Who is behind this forced plan??
They are not there to get people's input....
Doublespeak!!
YouChoose?
No!! The agenda is already set.
And the NWO marches on.......
LoveVanillaRose 8 months ago
@LoveVanillaRose Behind the Plan? The UN which "manages" attainment of the NWO at the behest of "practicing" child-sacrificing satanists Rockefellers/Rothschilds, the Queen, their minions Bushes/Rockefellers/Blair etc. They are speeding things up because so many people are now onto them; they have a target date of 2012 for martial law and killing people in FEMA camps. The ones left will be herded into a FEW hi-rise cities. Only the ELITES will be able to leave. YOU will be a slave.
99barrels 8 months ago
What's more...the globalists are in a BIG HURRY to own Libya, Pakistan, Yemen, Syria etc. Next they'll send in their CIA BOYS to crank up rebellion in Saudi Arabia so they will own ALL THE OIL. Then they'll CUT OFF oil to America. The US military is being used as a TOOL for GLOBALIZATION, and the American Treasury has been ROBBED for the same reason. (See Pastor Lindsey Williams' youtubes)
99barrels 8 months ago
@99barrels "Then they'll CUT OFF oil to America" Correction, they will try to cut off CHINA and perhaps India too.
Look up the coming struggle between the EU & USA vs Russia & China!
You must understand China and Russia are against a Global Government.
leonvoltaire 8 months ago
@Electrollight
oh you're one of those brain dead ones....yikes.
omaxpi 8 months ago
I guess population growth is on City Planner's minds... thing is, this "solution" is hardly awe inspiring.
blueorangelettuce 8 months ago
We are having a similar predetermined outcome meeting for what they call "Urban-Rural Edge Project". Just another implementation of Agenda 21. These pinheads are trying to force their agenda on us and make it look like we wanted it.
NajaranStar 8 months ago
I hope this is the response that all agenda 21 forums have.
wthf5 8 months ago
HERDING is the correct term. I attended OneBayArea's so-called "Envision" meeting in Marin County, north of San Francisco, in May. People caught on fast, that the facilitators were using this oh-so-cozy named software "YouChoose" to make the participants think they were "choosing" priorities like "clean air," "conserve water," (really!?) and "conserve open space." This is Central Planning with a warm, fuzzy, New Age gloss. The elites are coming after your freedom. Now.
gigidavidful 8 months ago
Who are the head honchos of Silicon Valley communications "FOUNDATION"?
99barrels 8 months ago
@99barrels John Sobrato - Developer - they have deep pockets: As of 2010:$1.8 billion - Assets under management
researcherguy1 8 months ago
This was THE most poorly run meeting I have EVER seen in my 33 years of work experience. The main gist was HERDING the crowd, NOT listening at all, trying to SHUT DOWN ALL QUESTIONS, or trying to "put them off" until the END of what "little" data was presented, and then SKIPPING OUT ON ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS -- ESPECIALLY MR. GREENBELT.
99barrels 8 months ago 2
SO....their GOAL is to use U.S. money to accomplish their HERDING INTO CITIES goals. $200 billion transportation. HOLD ALL QUESTIONS TILL THE END WHEN I'M GONE, PLEASE....DON'T BOTHER ME NOW. I'M NOT HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. Mr. Greenbelt's spiel is pitiful.
99barrels 8 months ago 2
The audience asked the GREENBELT guy several times about his company and what they do. He REFUSED to answer, finally saying they were non-profit and worked in the SF area, and they could look it up in the brochure. VERY STRANGE HE DIDN'T WANT TO DESCRIBE HIS COMPANY. His speech didn't make any more sense than the speeches of the others.
99barrels 8 months ago
The black lady and Facilitator are up there "at the 30,000 ft level. BRAVO FOR THE PEOPLE ATTENDING AND ASKING VALID REAL QUESTIONS compared to the FLUFF facilitators. FIRE THE FOOLS IN AGENDA 21.
We don't want to HEAR your "stuff", Agenda 21! They just want everybody to SIT DOWN and SHUT UP.
99barrels 8 months ago
Now the black lady takes over when the questions over private property get tough, and states she can't answer questions. SHE'S ONLY "EQUIPPED" THIS MORNING TO DEAL WITH THE QUESTIONS ON THE SCREEN. IF THERE ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY QUESTIONS, THEY NEED TO BE TAKEN UP WITH THE "LOCAL" GOVT. THROW THEM OUT!!!!!!
99barrels 8 months ago
He uses the word ENTICE constantly. He wouldn't be able to "entice" me to do ANYTHING! The UN should be KICKED OUT, PERIOD.
99barrels 8 months ago
@99barrels Hey dipshit: where the fuck was the UN?
OpposedToMoses 8 months ago
@OpposedToMoses You're the DIPSHIT, JERK! You obviously don't read! All you have to do is google "AGENDA 21" to see it's run by the U.N. and has been for at least 30 years. Now it's being cranked up bigtime, as are ALL the U.N.'s nefarious plans at the DIRECTION of the "practicing" satanists globalists Rockefeller, Rothschild, the Queen, Bushes/Clintons "their minions", Soros and the rest.
99barrels 8 months ago
@99barrels First of all Agenda 21 is from 1992: not quite 20 years ago. Second, where in the meeting was the UN involved? This was a group of local governmental and nongovernmental organizations. Finally, with the satanists, globalists rothschild and so on, I suspect I could get you to believe anything. I just have to preface it with "They don't want you to know..." Please stop being so gullible. Tinfoil hats are not cool.
OpposedToMoses 8 months ago
@OpposedToMoses It's older than 1992. I've been reading about it since the early 80's, and it was planned WAY before that. AGENDA 21 is a UN plan (another one of those "if we do it under the UN name, they can't accuse "us" of doing it). Do a little googling "Agenda 21 +U.N."
99barrels 8 months ago
@OpposedToMoses PLEASE STOP TELLING PEOPLE TO STOP QUESTIONING THEIR RULERS. Just because you are content in your ignorance doesn't mean the rest of us "tinfoil hat" wearers will lie down and surrender graciously. There is much more going on behind the scenes than mainstream media are allowed to cover. So start being proactive and research EVERY possibility, not just what They are telling us.
InfinityPlus24 8 months ago
@InfinityPlus24 I never said that people shouldn't question their rulers. I just feel they should be rational and demand evidence for the things they promote. 99Barrels seems like the sort of person that would believe any conspiracy theory regardless of the lack of evidence. Paranoia doesn't do any good.
OpposedToMoses 8 months ago
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grownman455 7 months ago
The man conducting the survey has a voice that grates on my nerves. He had the NERVE to tell an attendee to be "respectful" of him, when he is brushing all of them off right and left, REFUSING to answer their questions. He's a JERK!
99barrels 8 months ago
Let's move right along, folks. We don't have time to HEAR what you have to say. We've already GOT our plans. All we want you to do is check the box so we can PRETEND we're actually gathering data. SEEMS TO ME THE "DISCUSSION" should take place BEFORE the "SURVEY". Bunch of JERKS putting on this seminar. The agenda is pre-determined...they just need to SAY they had # bodies there who AGREED WITH THEM. I would vote 5 on everything.
99barrels 8 months ago 5
@99barrels
Many of us attended four of these meetings and they were all the same. Crooked answers or "we'll get to that later". So why did they ask for 'public input' in the first place?
cvminutemen 8 months ago 5
@cvminutemen
There were question/comment sheets for any questions that weren't addressed during the seminar. What's so difficult about this? How were the answers crooked?
dobiegee 6 months ago
These people say they don't have TIME to answer the questions asked. THEN they shouldn't be having the meetings at all.
99barrels 8 months ago
These people should be run out of town.
99barrels 8 months ago
This Agenda 21 speaker says they NEED your input. The problem is they have already FORMED their plans, and as astute attendees are saying, none of their so-called "CHOICES" apply to the "normal" American lifestyle. They INTEND TO CHANGE THE ENTIRE AMERICAN LIFESTYLE TO ONE THAT CROWDS ALL U.S. CITIZENS INTO A FEW CROWDED CITIES with Gestapo tactics to insure YOU DON'T LEAVE THESE CITIES, and have no personal transportation. This whole "you-choose" FARCE should be REJECTED OUTRIGHT BY AMERICA.
99barrels 8 months ago
This is getting a lot of attention here in Hawaii.
LeeEisenstein 8 months ago
@LeeEisenstein
I was wondering why the video was getting hit so much. Stay tuned. We're attending the meeting this Friday (June 10th) in which these Bozos will report their findings to the MTC. I also shot a video on Monday at the East Bay Tea Party where Agenda 21 was explained quite clearly. Should be up today or tomorrow.
cvminutemen 8 months ago 3
Agenda 21 has been planned for years and years as part of the NWO to move all people into crowded cities with no vehicles and the NWO would confiscate ALL the property. In the first few mins of this video I saw the words "IMMINENT DOMAIN" on the literature which, in effect, is the government confiscating YOUR property. SAY "NO" TO AGENDA 21!!!!!!
SAY "NO" TO THE UN, AND LOBBY TO RID THE US OF THEM.
99barrels 8 months ago
Wow! This gave me goose bumps! Bravo Bay area!!! These people are total sleaze and it's great how they were squirming and stumbling when you called them on their BS. BRAVO!!!!
davidsanft 8 months ago
down with United Nations AGENDA 21
Robodoon 8 months ago
Beware of AGENDA 21. This will evolve into rationing and control in the scheme of GLOBAL GOVERNMENT. Please check out MICHAEL SHAW'S excellent research on AGENDA 21.
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vastell 8 months ago
The liar slips up at 33:15. What a fucking jerk!
CuteShooter 8 months ago
You may wish to check out these two interviews about the wicked U.N Agenda 21 and its destruction of the Western civilisation which is only appealing to the Delphi Technique brainwashing of today; watch?v=WISDmjAMm2U and watch?v=utYwroQ2QhY so many people have become genocidal and hoodwinked they make Hitler look sane.
anunnaki2006 8 months ago
next will be the fema camps and work groups
silacst 8 months ago
LISTEN TO THESE COMMIES. WTF? THESE PEOPLE NEED TO BE STOPPED.
DON'T BUY INTO THIS. IT IS NOTHING MORE THEN GETTING YOU TO HOP ON BOARD TO THE NWO AGENDA.
fjerins 8 months ago
SPREAD THE WEALTH. FUCK YOU AGENDA 21. NOT MY MONEY. I WILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO TAKE OVER MY LIFE, WILL YOU? OF COURSE YOU WILL. THOSE THAT HAVE NOTHING WILL TAKE YOURS. I DON'T SEE OBAMA GIVING HIS MONEY OUT TO ALL OF THESE LOSERS.
fjerins 8 months ago
early stage means process of how to make you understand this is going to be done.... whether you like it or not.
lisapratt1 8 months ago
nothing like herding the cows into the barns. less urban means more rich people living in the country and the slaves living in the city.
lisapratt1 8 months ago
Stack em and pack em
IF you live in the country you wont be soon
dave777blaster 8 months ago
@dave777blaster As is, if you live in the country you won't be soon; suburban sprawl will surround you.
OpposedToMoses 8 months ago
@OpposedToMoses No as in the Chinese and others will own outright all of the rural areas
dave777blaster 8 months ago
this coffee and and these muffins all have Prozac please eat and drink and dont make trouble...and just vote yes on the ballots. oh wait the thats what the Prozac is for...lmao....god you would need it to listen to her all day....eeeeeeekkkk depressing to know that the way I live is in the hands of really weird individuals.
lisapratt1 8 months ago
yep forced agenda 101 agree with the guy at 5:30 "make you believe its your idea"...lol...yep classic communism -pretty soon you will not be able to breath or fart with out asking permission....this is the Germans SS wet dream...lmao fema camps here we come.
lisapratt1 8 months ago
@Electrollight
How about "we won't get fooled again".
cvminutemen 9 months ago
@Electrollight
In case it escaped you, the suburbs of the Bay Area are now cities packed with stores and industry. The suburbs no longer exist here. Most people MUST DRIVE to commute to work because they simple live too far from their job. If they move closer and need to change jobs, what would you have them do? Sell the house, uproot the kids and move? Get real. High-rise condos in downtown Pittsburg or Oakland and buses are not the answer. Better cars powered by natural gas is a start.
cvminutemen 9 months ago
Does that mean that me as a bike lane using cyclist am a supporter of this world government agenda? Just because I take Bay Area Rapid Transit makes me a socialist. Because I use a Clipper card means that my every single move is being tracked by the NSA?
Can we all just forget about all this obstructionist BS and get shit done? inb4commentapproval
UnReal31337 9 months ago
@UnReal31337
No. It meas that you are an innercity dweller and are free to do what you want, while others may not want to live there. We also don't want our tax dollars go for more urban development and public transportation that is used by a mere fraction of commuters. And by the way. This has all come about because of the great "Global Warming scare" of 2007, which most people do not buy into... And what "s--t" do you want to get done? Build more taxpayer subsidised greenie crap?
cvminutemen 9 months ago
@cvminutemen It doesn't matter if people believe in global warming. The overwhelming scientific consensus is that global warming is occurring and is caused by humans. Why should tax dollars go towards expensive suburban infrastructure? Why should people have to pay for your sewer lines and your roads?
OpposedToMoses 8 months ago
@OpposedToMoses
Why should people have to pay for YOUR public transportation and YOUR point of view? Most of the global warming crisis was disproved two years ago when the "hockey stick" graph was exposed as a hoax. And with the weather cooling recently, the believers were forced to re-label "global warming" as "climate change". They felt that with the new name that they were covered either way against the evil humans... Talk to the Chinese and Indians about pollution.
cvminutemen 8 months ago
@cvminutemen Why pay for my point of view? How about the fact that it is a more efficient use of money and resources? What is this nonsense about recent cooling? 2010 is tied with 2005 as the hottest year on record. Sure the Chinese and Indians have pollution problems, but so do we. Denying science isn't going to make things any better.
OpposedToMoses 8 months ago
@cvminutemen It's not cooling... yet. The warming has reached a plateau, meaning that the temperature isn't changing anymore, which is troubling for AGW believers. The unprecedented solar activity of the last century is now in decline, so the cooling should come soon. That's the only reason the last decade had all those record temperatures as OpposedToMoses said. It's still at the peak. Never mind his idiotic claim of scientific consensus, anyone who's looked into it knows it's not true.
s0cietysreject 3 months ago
@UnReal31337 what so you want to say yes to this plan a nd make it a dream of every one else to live on top of everybody else just cause you like it? Agenda 21 is a bad thing...read it! Its not just the bay area- ITS THE WHOLE DAMNED COUNTRY. think about reading the agenda 21 documents...all of it. and then vote-rather maybe you wont vote, but protest these decisions.
lisapratt1 8 months ago
@UnReal31337 Obvious loser is obvious
AynManRand 8 months ago
You guys are joking, right?
surrealhamper 9 months ago
The purpose of this meeting was simply to create the illusion that individuals in these communities support their agenda. The people who attended this meeting and others like it across the country have been used and should be angry that their "input" reveals only the blatant attempt by these "non-profits" to manipulate them.
dteselle 9 months ago 2
@dteselle exactly....and the job for us to keep finding these people who are being taught t his agenda the actual agenda of the UN AGENDA 21 programs.
lisapratt1 8 months ago
We encourage you to go to Democrats Against UN Agenda 21 dot com for details about the OneBayArea plan and how it is spreading across the nation.
Redevelopment is the funding and eminent domain arm for these plans. Your state income and property tax dollars are paying for it.
Tactics used at these meetings include intimidation, shame, and isolation for those who would object to the steamroller propaganda machine.
The Post Sustainability Institute
SRNCVideo 9 months ago
"Choices that you get to make" Ha,Ha,Ha...Her: Let us violate your rights and tell you what to do, so we can get a bribe, [oops did I say that out loud?] I mean grant, from the Federal government. I need that extra money to be able to accomplish great things and plan your future, even though that is treason because I am working with a foreign power [the U.N.], I don't want you to challenge me on this, If you do, you will be put on a terrorist watch list. Please don't film this. Public meet?
immafreemann 9 months ago
stack em and rack em just like in china why do you think feds bought 13 million acres last year so there will be no more private property .If you people in Cali fall for this you get what you deserve.Why is he playing these songs to make you feel guilty,that you have a house and he doesn't listen this is just a another power grab by Obama this is the green movement Al Gor won't give his mansion up neither will any of phony wood all the rich will stay in their homes and you jerks will live partme
dynaboy1964 9 months ago
I've read many of the comments on to the video's. People, you have to get out to these meetings!!! Don't just sit and complain get out!!!! Take action!
kdanielusa 9 months ago
@kdanielusa
You are absolutely right! If the 70% of Americans who are upset at the direction this country is going in took action, we could change things in a matter of years. Don't just "wake up" people, get busy!
cvminutemen 9 months ago 3
I just watched the second half of this and I have to say that I'm pleased that people are objecting - it obviously took the speakers by surprise.
What's interesting about those who organize such things are so obviously pleased with themselves for being "movers and shakers" in such "righteous" works.
continuityofliberty 9 months ago
@continuityofliberty
Thanks for taking the time to watch it - it's long, but revealing. I'm happy that YouTube recently extended my account from a 15 minute per video limit to several hours per video.
cvminutemen 9 months ago
"there are moments of opportunity that change history; before the loma prieta earthquake the opposition to tearing down the freeway was too strong to overcome, but when the earthquake damaged the freeway, it opened a window of possibilities, a chance to imagine things differently. And we are in one of those moments right now; where the decisions that we make over the next year, will have major implications for what the bay area looks like two decades from now."
kodiaq112 9 months ago
listen at 1:24:02 - 1:24:29 - do they plan on an earthquake!?? via HAARP? depopulation and the destruction of infrastructure IS PART OF THE AGENDA!
kodiaq112 9 months ago 3
@kodiaq112 This type of governmental thinking doesn't need exotic HAARP thingies to make moves on your property and rights. Weed and Seed, Urban renewal (Housing Act '49), Robert Moses's entire tenure in New York. Now the Green religion has added a comprehensive approach which is POPULAR, more than any of the others.
AynManRand 9 months ago
Everyone needs to search for "Sustainable Development [your state name]" and find org hired by your gov in your area. This is just for the bay area of California... blah blah blah... These nazis must be stopped.
vVv11511vVv 9 months ago 3
Lol they can't organize a meeting, why would we allow them to organize our living situations...
vVv11511vVv 9 months ago 3
I love it how question that he doesnt want to answer he tells them to write comments for submission. This guy might sound kind, but he has evil ideas.
vVv11511vVv 9 months ago 4
Why wont they show these question and why the fuck are they playing such mood enhancing music like an experiment?
vVv11511vVv 9 months ago 3
@vVv11511vVv man its a form of guilt while you anwser.I am going to double up on burning gas use alot more wood drink alot more water in plastic bottles .This guy must have been born from nazi descendants.String the little fuck up by his balls so he could never have children.Green nazi left wing commie fuck.Gerbals remember that name.Dude you hit it on the head experiment,ginny pigs
dynaboy1964 9 months ago
we have vays of dealing with those who would choose to leave early
callieland 9 months ago 2
Thanks for posting - I'll be sending links to friends/family.
Check this out:
/watch?v=Q966tz9aEHM
continuityofliberty 9 months ago
"You cannot leave early" or we will send you to the nearest concentration camp :-)
Prophet4YAHWEH 9 months ago 2
We've had local governments for this sort of thing for hundreds of years. Many of us feel they operate better locally instead of having to check and make sure it is okay with the New World Order...
or having a New World Order telling us what we decided.
StokeyBob7 9 months ago
"AGENDA 21"
It's a trap!!!! Comrade !
StokeyBob7 9 months ago
"AGENDA 21"
It's a trap!!!! Commrad!
StokeyBob7 9 months ago 2
What if i want to live on a huge peice of property and work 2hrs. away, am i evil ?
vsnips 9 months ago
As a former student of Architecture I can see where they are coming from with their Greenbelt preseration desires. The way we have built is destroying nature and open space in our environments but I do not agree that architects and city planners should have the right to pack us all into one LARGE apartment or mixed use complexes. My last project design in my 2nd year was this exact project. They make it seem like it's about conserving open space but they are really ridding ppl of their freedom.
TheIAmAwakened 9 months ago
Why has NOT ONE PERSON asked them what their AUTHORITY IS TO DO THIS?
nhteaparty 9 months ago 8
@nhteaparty 1:00:00 that kid with the bad haircut asked that very question.
AynManRand 9 months ago
@nhteaparty
Exactly!!
By who's authority has this group been given the mandate to be leading the discussion in matters like this?
This is something for the established local governments and their planning departments, in accordance with the " US Constitution".
Don't fall for their nonsense!
confoundedbrilliance 8 months ago
What RIGHT does some new world order group like 'Greenbelt Alliance' have to tell these people where they can live??????????? The UN is taking away your property right under your noses at the local level which means you MUST get out to your town and city meetings.
nhteaparty 9 months ago 11
@nhteaparty Oh my GOD!!!! A regional citizens group has put pressure on the regional governments for about 50 years and now has a seat at the table. How dare those citizens try to influence the government and the future!
OpposedToMoses 8 months ago
REgional planning is BOGUS and UNCONSTITUTIONAL...!! This is against private property rights... toss these a-holes out of your community quick!
nhteaparty 9 months ago 2
@nhteaparty Please explain how something at the state regional level is unconstitutional. Doesn't the 10th Amendment leave all unspecified powers to the states? If the states give room for regional planning organizations, wouldn't they then be legal?
OpposedToMoses 8 months ago
Please read the full article of the same title on the NH Tea Party Coalition's website posted on 5/13/2011... notice some of the questions they have to answer were on the American Community Survey????.
nhteaparty 9 months ago
@nhteaparty
What's the website??
cvminutemen 9 months ago
@cvminutemen Google NH Tea Party Coalition dot o.r.g
nhteaparty 9 months ago
@nhteaparty ok i will thanks.
lisapratt1 8 months ago
Respond to this video...
im thinking this group of facilitators are a little nervous ! hahhaha-lmao. love it. they need to be nervous. accountability.
lisapratt1 8 months ago
@cvminutemen A URL will not post so please google nh tea party coalition
nhteaparty 9 months ago
How to be delphied and pushed into a managed society. COMMUNISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nhteaparty 9 months ago
im going to go out on a limb and assume that that entire room was full of liberals who were brainwashed into liberalism. then they realize they have been just had. hillarious.
nudeteawithwoodreaux 9 months ago
omg get the hell out of my state you crazy people. shoo go back to your 3rd world country and try your experiments on them. get the hell OUT!
snarkthenews 9 months ago
Is this black chick for real????
She sound sooo stupid as if she is treating the audiance like they are (12) year olds!
What stupid woman who needs a brain.
456manny1 9 months ago
This idiot should be selling shoes instead, it fits his zombie personallity.......
456manny1 9 months ago
I am from Brooklyn NY, live In Soquel.
I see how this canadian moron is spewing crap...
The U.S. has turned into a bag of shit.
As a former Airline pilot , who traveled the world for 13 years - I have seen better!
As soon as my son is finished with school here I,m moving back to Southern Brazil, far far away from this stupid, brainwash, zobified, sheeple filled place:(
456manny1 9 months ago
They are using the "delphi technique" in this meeting with trained facilitators. Standard fare for the UN Globalist agenda. It is very effective at manipulating people and making them believe they had a say so in the planning. What a crock of crap these lefties spew.
ginker49 9 months ago
rightsideofhistory The UK is the upper crust of the new world order. Americans. which you so easily acuse of masterminding the new world order, is nothing more than a UK puppet. The victory of 1776 has been successfully reversed!
America has become the 'trigger' of the new world order. Leading the charge into the battlefields of the phoney wars of the 20th and now 21st century, but they are only the trigger, they only think they are more important, European bankers control it all
mrboobbarker 9 months ago
Now get back in your cubical.
vsnips 9 months ago
Support Ron Paul's H.R. 1146 to get US out of The UN
votervoice . net/Groups/JBS/?Screen=
alert&IssueId=24587
U.N. "Agenda 21" EXPOSED, links on my profile.
Clubdj14 9 months ago
@Clubdj14 Good! Then Canada, the UK, and everybody else will be relieved that we won't have to be towed into your bullshit war machine that's draining all of our money and brothers' lives.
rightsideofhistory 9 months ago
@Clubdj14 And be sure to keep your surprise down as all the UN countries ditch the US dollar as the world reserve currency, as you abandon us, we abandon you. Perfectly smart to end alliances, right? Watch the US crumble as the next USSR, another great consumptive empire fall to the ashes of poverty and burning out their engine at 9000 RPM for the last 50 years. It all has an end, my friend. Keep bringing it closer faster with your conservative bullshit. Although end is inevitable anyway.
rightsideofhistory 9 months ago
"You cannot leave early. It would look bad."
dcnfamily 9 months ago
@dcnfamily
Besides, you would lose your vote at the meeting ...
cvminutemen 9 months ago
Bottom Line: INDIVIDUAL "FREEDOM" IS UNSUSTAINABLE when it comes to living together in towns and cities. The days of 500,000 people in the whole country has become 500,000 people in ONE NEIGHBORHOOD. Unless we're all going to spread across the vast nation and live miles apart, the current model of consumption, individual motorization, living 10 miles from work, etc... historians will look back in awe at how dumb we were. Collectivism, socializing, and community is all that will work longterm
rightsideofhistory 9 months ago
@rightsideofhistory
So are you suggesting that we all live in 40 story condos located in downtown areas? Packed in major cities like rats in cages?? If that works for you, then do it. But don't try to force me to do it. Forcing someone to do something against their will is down right UN-AMERICAN, which is why we are so upset with your "logic".
cvminutemen 9 months ago
@cvminutemen That's where we're going - that is the fate of this consumption paradigm. Rats in cages. Yes. But they can be nice homey comfortable cages. It's what you make of it. I assume you have never been to China (1.5 billion people). Well I have. It's a whole different paradigm. You want a lawn and a picket fence and your own house? hahahaha Where are you going to put all the people! I didn't say this paradigm applies to rural areas. But this is the long term fate of cities.
rightsideofhistory 9 months ago
@rightsideofhistory
Frankly, or birthrate is down. So the only way that we'll get as over populated as China is by continuing to allow illegal immigrants into the USA who will dramatically increase the birthrate. I say keep them out and only allow legal immigration to occur, and then only immigrants who have something to offer us other than a strong back. It's all connected
cvminutemen 9 months ago
@cvminutemen cough cough slavery...cough native american genocide..cough un-american u say?
lasheron 9 months ago
@lasheron
I wasn't around when that took place - were you? I didn't think so...
cvminutemen 9 months ago
@rightsideofhistory you my friend have it absolutely wrong. very very wrong. you are the type of person that is unsustainable with your absolute socialist ideals. you have misconstrued the very ideals of the golden mean - which is democracy. get on your UN bandwagon. face it. your ideals will bring the earth to a halt. not because of humans but by your ideology that does not rule by reason. consumption and consumerism is based on the very ideals of corporate fascism not CAPTALISM. IM READY
wellwellwellall 9 months ago
Baking the cake! these people are being treated like total idiots. Why dont they all just stand up and say NO we dont want it and good bye. What the hells wrong with people.
thegroove2000 9 months ago
Most americans have no balls, thats why the agenda keeps rolling. Too much TV and fast food distracting them from the matrix that surrounds them.
thegroove2000 9 months ago
"WHAT IF" some strong hearted patriots stood up and demanded this manipulator go back to D.C. & fix the following 6 items? 1) Election Fraud ...2) Terrorist Training Camps on U.S. soil ...3) National debt increase of over 8,000% in just the past 30 years ...4) Political Corruption ...5) Socialized Health care ...6)Illegal Immigration Crisis
GOOGLE CAJeffO Index ---- then see page #1 & item 5
GOOGLE CAJeffO Letter to America
* We must stop this maddness.
CaJeffO 9 months ago