Ofcourse they build you up, this is in the commando phase at week 26+ and he said its one of the commando tests so its at week 31, i start RT in 16! Weeks! Counting down the minutes!
toughest thing about those marches is the gear your wearing,any person who is decently fit should be able to run 10 miles in an hr,so 9 miles in battle order in 1.30 hr isnt bad,over uneven ground.i ran 14 miles in 2 hrs with 55lb bergen but that was wearin trainers! besides about 15mins of that 1.30hr is taken off for drink breaks.
The video REAL LIFE - COMMANDO (Royal Marines) 2000 - Part 5 states that a march of 30 miles in the rough terrain of dartmoor carrying 40lbs,,,, The S.A.S speed march consists roughly carrying 40lbs covering 40 miles in 24 hours. The video mentioned above of the Royal marine speed march of 30 miles carrying 40lbs in 8hrs is obviously corrupted is this fake proppaganda are we to have faith in our troops for unneccassary reason?
@jprbur Not propaganda, just look up the commando course.
The 30 miler is one of the tests that has to be completed in Royal Marine training. It is done in 8 hours or less carrying fighting order weighing 32lbs plus a day sack with a few extras in (bringing it to around 40lbs). Royal Marines officers must complete it in under 7 hours and navigate the route themselves.
I have just taken my 9 yr old daughter for a 4.2 ML speedmarch this evening. No kit and no water but I was proud of her. A marinette in the making perhaps?
@ConfuzzledCub it gets quite honkin wearing boots, trousers and 32lbs of kit. perhaps you could, perhaps you couldnt. but because you can run 4.5miles in trainers doensnt mean you can manage this well.
@critchley17 I was wearing trousers in cross country, but not boots lol! And definately not 32lbs. And man, I didn't know how much more sensible I could get in 4 months, I mean, just looking at the comment makes me feel embarrassed now! I just turned 13 a few days ago, soooo.... But I do have a reputation of doing more press ups/push ups (I really can't tell the difference) than almost anyone at school that I know, apart from a few boys of course.
Err, cheers for the advice mate, but I'm pretty experienced as far as PT is concerned.
Of course squats alone isn't all one needs, and cycling, rowing and running all have their places...but so do weighted squats (muscular strength and endurance in the weight range relevant to the loads one carries over the speed march and 30-miler.)
@Will762 Look on their website, they have a training programme with exercises appropriate to the job, weights aren't used except to fasten your feet to the floot for various forms of situps.
@ihaterobbie123 Yeah, I know the thing you're talking about - I saw it once or twice. But as I said beofore, doing various forms of weight-work including squats will absolutley help. Of course, one shouldn't get too fixated on them - weights are one part of a broad training programme.
@Will762 of course weights are important in a training programme but trust me ifyou want to do well you need to focus alot more on cardio work than strength
@JamieN1690 The 30 miler, the Tarzan assault course, 60 press-ups and at least 10 chin-ups to get maximum points on your PRMC? Look - I've said it several times, but people obviously don't understand what I'm saying (about 4 people have replied to me now): Yes, do cardio, do loads of it, but you'd be mad not to use weights if you want to train to your phys to max potential. Do runners use weight? Do triathletes use weights? Yes!! But make sure you have a balanced training programme
when you actually do it though, it is one of the hardest things you will do in training. i've only ever done a 6 mile speed march, and believe me it completely destroys your legs. much respect to the RMC, balls of steel.
Weyyyyyyyyyyy who is the Twat Rupert in the beginning of thiis Clip?? WOW !! Chinless Wonder, Me thought only the House hold wats its only got, Twats like him,,,,,,,,,, Some one Sort his Fukin Beret out for him,,,,,,,,,,,, he believes its a Cow Pat,,,,,,,,,,,,
USMC training is 13 weeks But remember it is called Basic or boot. You still have to go to your job training. I've known many "Royal Marines, Para's" etc. and most of them deserted from the Legion. Your all great when you are in your own gang, But do it on your own in a foreign land speaking a foreign language. We Britts, Yanks and the rest of the Western world were the weakest. Go and be better than the enemy. C#nt' s!!
You Telling me the legion can't march. You Say That Ex ROYAL MARINES and PARA's didn't desert From there. You're so sure that we are the Strongest. Typical Britt. Go put a bandage on your pride doc. I don't need to see yor time out card because I hurt your feelings.
I know the Norse do 180 Klicks in training. I Know the Ruskies do about the same. In the legion its 180 klicks in the fourth month in the legion I did several marches over 30 days with 80 kilos. No Royal Marine Comando to Stand up to the Geniside I saw in Central Afrique. RMCs don't get put through the third floor window and then 2 weeks labor for being 15 seconds late for formation RMCs don't beat you for forgeting your standing orders. it takes 32 weeks because they are slow in the head.
Isn't it pointless to fight for any politicians advancement be it any country's? Any able bodied monkey can be trianed to do the physical part, and for the most part trained up intellectually. That's the nature of all military training. To be a legionnaire you need to be a sociopath. That's where True soldiers are as they are the one percent. You can be TRAINED as a soldier but at what cost to your personallity when it comes time to do your job. Anyway, In the end there is ALWAYS someone better.
last thing I want to do is inadvertently talk you into this type of thing. what I wanted from the begining of these remarks is for young ones to understand if you judge a Unit A less than Unit B You are wrong in doing so. Most of my injuries came from the NON professional. It's simple to be a soldier. The only real thing special about SF is the dimension of time. The physical you can get anywhere. Don't think of doing this Until you can think abstractly. Play lots of chess as well as PT
That's not true. Psychopaths don't make good soldiers because their entire world revolves around themselves. Something like the Royal Marines requires teamwork.
And you could be as fit as you like, but doing something this gruelling day in day out would hurt. Sleep deprivation and niggling injuries would take a huge mental toll. Only motivation can see you through that barrier.
70% of applicants fail, but it's reckoned most are fit enough physically. That says it all.
That is why these soldiers suffer from such high levels of PTSD. Besides anyone who joins an armed force will be screened to see if they have these traits. Even the most antisocial can be trianed like pavlovs dogs. Psychotechnic test screen all 1st world soldiers and don't you dare tell me they don't. You are right, a Psychopath does not make a good soldier, but sociopathic traits do. Thats why the first death caused is usually an animal under survival training.
Yeah, some psychopathic traits might work in a battle - e.g. low anxiety response, but many people have some psychopathic traits, very few are actually psychopaths. I have worked with psychopaths professionally, and I know a couple of ex- RMs very well, and believe me, they are not even close to being psychopaths. They love their families and 1 in particular is deeply troubled about mates and enemy soldiers he saw killed. A true psychopath wouldn't give a flying about anyone being killed.
white490 - plenty of grunts come from tough backgrounds and may have engaged in anti-social behaviour. If, however, it's part of a personality disorder there's no chance they'd make a unit like the RMs. People with ASPD lack persistence & goals, are narcissistic, abuse drugs, fight, steal etc. Something as testing as RM selection (or foreign legion training) is going to be completely unappealing to them. They'd disrupt everything, and if they didn't drop they'd be canned by the hierarchy.
white490 - FYI a psychopath is a grandiose narcissist who lacks conscience, lies, lacks empathy and an ability to learn from mistakes. They usually show extreme hedonism. some milder, more intelligent ones can do well in competitive environments e.g. sales, but generally I would say the army is about the worst environment for someone with any kind of psychopathic disorder. They're just not gonna turn up if they don't feel like it, and they'll stiff their mates if it suits them.
And for the record white490, someone with a psychopathic disturbance would probably be LESS vulnerable to PTSD, not more.
Psychopaths have shallow emotional development and a stunted fear response - they would be untroubled by memories of conflict for those reasons.
You'd be more likely to find psychopaths among the legions of scumbags who fought as lone mercenaries in places like Bosnia than in regular, trained units.
Yes I agree it would make them less vulneable To PTSD. My point. You are not following my argument. Anyone taking money for military service is by definition a mercenairy, correct? Whatever the motivation be it the patria, religion, economical, enviromental whatever. To Take Sold(ier) is mercenairy. You cannot justify the taking of money for martial service unless you are mercenairy, point blank. Don't want to be called mercenairy don't take the money (sold)
and what do you mean by "sociopathic"? The RMs I have met are probably among the LEAST psychopathic individuals I have come across. To be a marine requires a big reserve of character, while psychopathy could be defined as an extreme lack thereof.
You are quite protective of these men. Good for you. Defending these men who Chose combat arms as not mercenairy is a laugh. Besides I didn't call them sociopathic. I said Legionnaires are sociopathic. No I do not mean all of them but good % are. Have X-RM deserted from the legion? YES. Whatever thier justification, They lacked the "big reserve of character" to continue as per thier word. I don't care that they deserted. many do.
Were you in the Legion? I doubt any Legionnaires are truly psychopathic. The psychology of soldiering requires someone motivated to do things they don't like doing, for long periods of time.
Psychopaths do exclusively what suits them, usually in the short term.
So ex-RMs dropped out of the Legion, big deal. Some legionnaires would no doubt fail the commando course. Some RMs try and fail PCoy too, are they less elite than Paras?
Sociopaths are attracted to military service, They can see some action. Most all infantrymen are motivated by the excitement of combat and the accomplishment of the mission, sociopaths are motivated by the chance to cause death and destruction. They can be identified by the wild-eyed excitement they show when talking of how they plan to kill the enemy. Another sign is a love of knives and violent movies. This behavior is usually dismissed as dark humor or enthusiasm.
"So ex-RMs dropped out of the Legion, big deal. Some legionnaires would no doubt fail the commando course. Some RMs try and fail PCoy too, are they less elite than Paras?" My argument is closer to these lines. Good job. Because thier training is thirty two weeks Doesn't make them the most elite soldiers on the planet. it makes them very well TRAINED.
Sociopaths are often excellent soldiers, Dangerous if they lose control. Leadership must be aware of soldiers who demonstrate sociopathic tendencies. Before a unit enters combat, suspected sociopaths need counseling to let them know they demonstrate sociopathic tendencies and that they must keep those urges in check. They should be warned that if they show any sign of losing control by harming prisoners or civilians. They are likely shocked by such a warning, and thus keep the demons in check.
Many sociopaths are unable to retain control and commit vicious war crimes. No excuse for such behavior. Hopefully, such incidents can be prevented by identifying sociopathic behavior beforehand and taking steps to deal with this mental illness. Given that some 2% of the general population shows sociopathic tendencies, and a volunteer military attracts a much higher percentage, keeping sociopaths in check is a major leadership challenge.
Understood is that sociopathy is measured along a sliding scale. It is not a black and white clinical definition as grandiose narcissist, and that all sociopaths are Norman Bates suggests. These are very smart people capable of incredible acting to function as "normal". hell look at LAPD, haha,
You're right, but 99.9% of the male population display psychopathic tendencies some of the time, but they're not psychopaths.
Intelligent psychopaths can prosper in competitive environments which don't require teamwork and a flabby conscience is a benefit - corporate environments, sales, estate agency (!), journalism, politics e.g. There's always some fraud somewhere though. Credit crunch anyone?
white490, I can arrange for you to meet some real, 30 point + psychopaths, and you can tell me if you think they'd get in the marines or the Foreign Legion.
HINT - The answer would be "no" - they'd bully a few people, get in a few fights, get drunk, go AWOL when the going got tough then get turfed out.
Then they'd boast to everyone that they were in the marines as part of their latest attempt to find some shmo they could scam.
it seems we have established who they are, and we understand this definition. Still I learned this while watching a Caporal coax an african close enough to calm him and then cut his neck. The next week he was promoted to SGT. In Guyane a Leg1cl shot our Sgt in the leg. Sgt lost his jambre.Shooter Promoted to Cpl within a month. An anglaphonic leg. chopped up the limbs of the sleeping company duty CCH. 180 day in isolation. A Danish Cpl who battered a homosexual to death. recieved 180 days.
A mutiney after a pirogee lost his American canteen cup. A cpl through a sleeping guard from the second story window lost most of his left pectoral muscle. A Leg1cl who trashed a police station breaking a Gendarmes nose, jaw several computers and furnishings. 10 days in the hole. A CCH who stabbed a Cpl. Promoted to Sgt that month. Cpl lost a good bit of lung. A 1cl who gouged out the eyes of a Cpl over a bowl of hot Chocolate. sent on sniper course.
I knew each of them. The legion Has a Code Of Honour for outsiders. Don't you think that's maybe a little superfiscial? They are not force multiplyers they are almost directly from. the German National Socialists. They are SHOCK TROOPS. I wont even begin to tell anyone about Combat with them. You don,t need to believe me but go look on the 13th floor of the Armee hospital in Provance. Go look at a Centre for Anciens. Why do so many come with a "colourful" past?
Give me more definitions of a sociopath and examples why they would not make it in the military. I will throw them back in your face. After 15 years of military service I am in the position to judge. I can see the signs as well as you, I know those men. I will never forget. A Legionnaire is not from the same cloth as a RM. They are different types achiving a like goal sure but not the same, RMs are not the best ever elite force of the world for that truth is circumstancial and subjective.
I have heard the Legion has done a lot to up the quality of its recruits, one of which is barring crims from entry. Believe me, if you have too many psychopaths in a military unit you wouldn't have a quality outfit, you'd have the WEST SIDE BOYS.
The Legion is a quality unit, correct? It cannot have too many psychopaths.
Psychopathy is complex and not fully understood. Officially in the UK you basically have to be a crim to get a diagnosis, but when I read about guys like Jeff Skilling or Andy Fastow (Enron) their behaviour has "psycho" written all over it, and they made $mills before people realised.
I still think a disciplned military unit would be too much for most of 'em -too self centred and insubordinate, at least the ones I've met...
FYI, anyone who scores say 10 - 25 on the Hare checklist would be diagnosed as showing varying degrees of psychopathy. I suppose someone near the lower end of the scale could make a good soldier, but anyone mid-teens and above is going to be a serious nightmare, and they'd still only be classed as having a MILD disturbance.
white490, yes you know lots more about Legionnaires than I do, and I can accept mild psychopaths could survive or even be quite good in such a unit (or even British Paras).
True 26+ point psychopaths though? Phew! No way!! They're COMPLETE IDIOTS. They have been described as moral imbeciles, and it's a fitting description.
I dealt with a psychopath one once who was due for parole. Was he sorry for his crime? His exact response was that he "was sorry he had to do it" but that he would do it again if he "needed" to.
His crime? Tipping lighted petrol through someone's letterbox 'cos they ripped him off.
All he had to do was express remorse, but no! his warped sense of self prevented him from doing what was good for him. Back he went, and is still there as far as I know.
I see your point exactly. Ted Bundy would not survivie in that environment. The Legion has cleaned it's recrutment alot. Major felons would not only be turned away but more than likley turned over to interpol. Still a legionnaire I new chopped at the steel door of his prostitute girl friend who was having sex with other men. Go figure a girl like that. legionnaire was sent to work at the commando course in the middle of the forest. He was very much into the drugs, alcohol, girls < than others.
Yep. Ted Bundy actually escaped from jail and killed while he was on the run. This is how extreme the psychopathic inability to learn from consequence can be.
FYI, being diagnosed psychopathic (or ASPD, as we in the UK erroneously label it) can be grounds for indefinite detention, with good reason.
I'd be interested to know if you had serious numbers of repeat offenders? That would indicate, to me, a high incidence of personality disorder in the Legion.
Another "Johnny Walker" and a French Legionnaire nurse, held a family hostage under gun point trying to get a supply of fresh crack from the local creols. He was my soldier. I am sure they sent them away for five years though. Funny I haven't even got through the first two years with these stories, He was a little slower than the others.
I think as understanding of psychopathy has developed (and it's still not properly understood!) armies, including the Legion, have tried to screen these types out.
Psychopathic soldiers caused huge problems for the yanks in Vietnam cos a large part of their army was conscripted from dregs/ prison!!
Even the Paras I have met, who are probably more like the Legion, are not psychopathic, although they'd have a punch up with anyone.
I suppose our cadets was run by an ex-para and his favourite story was how he tried to get discharged by stealing generators from his barracks. It didn't work -9 months in the nick then back on. He told us that story every time we went out.
I suppose he was amusing in his own way, though he did make us smoke lambert &butler.
I guess they are everywhere.Like you say, and very scarey. I think like you say there would be a good many repeat offenders. They do a "banan" got to jail get out do it again, change identity go to another regiment, and so on even if you had there names that month it could be something other the next. an officer once told 90% of his time was dedicated to 10% of the legionnaires.
Maybe that is why such strict control is applied in the first 5 years. a sort of prove yourself cooling off piriod. no family no bank account, no car. holiday to only legion holiday camps. no civi cloths
many like them would not be invited back even if they recieved an honourable. Alot of them desert as well. If the legion has 10,000 legs. on the books there may only be 8,000 effective, and then 7,500 in the ranks. If the sentences the boys got might seem light they then have to return ranks and get a good beating from the NCOs. to remind them. Alot of them didn't seem to care if they got a beating though and would be back at it after a regroup of the faculties and a test of the water.
Psychopathy is a cluster of personality trats though. Someone like Bundy showed every psychopathic trait in abundance. someone who only showed 3 or 4 would sill count as a complete arsehole, but would not officially be a psychopath. I guess diagnosis is somewhat arbitrary. Like I say, officially in the UK only a crim can be diagnosed,meaning "offically" there's can't be more than maybe 250,000 (crims + ex crims combined). Incidence of narcissism is thought to be rising, though.
About 30% of prison populations are psychopathic - 10x the general population. BTW 3% psycho means that in the UK about 1.8mill people in the UK are psychopaths, prison population is 80,000. Do the math, as they say.
Yeah they're scarey. I've definitely come across those I suspect in corp. environments. They bully and fire people for no reason, steal deals and know the right cock to suck to stay in a job.
Corp. environments are different though - if u make money u can be a loner, break rules and still get promo'd. Military units rely on teamwork - totally essential to any mission, no lone sharks doing their own thing tolerated.
True psychopaths score 26+/40 on the Hare checklist. To get a score like that you have to show a lot of selfish, manipulative behaviour. In a military unit someone like that would be battered to death by fellow recruits.
Having a temper and a violent streak doesn't make you a psycho, otherwise half of Scotland would be diagnosed psychopathic LOL!!!
BTW white490, there is thought to be 2 "types" of psychopathic disturbance - one which is overtly anti-social and another which is sub-criminal.
The 1000 euro/ month legionnaire pay cheque would have no appeal for the sub-criminal psychopath - he'd be off working out how to make a mill shorting NASDAQ, or sucking Mugabe off in return for an arms deal or two.
True psychopaths would make horrendous soldiers, and if you think anything otherwise you haven't met one. They'd disobey any rule that didn't suit them, no matter how much punishment resulted. they'd slot an officer or colleague at a drop, they'd bully other recruits, they'd compromise missions, they'd desert, they would hand stuff over to the enemy for a tenner, the list goes on.
You need to meet a true psychopath, then you'd know what I mean.
white490, max. 30% of the prison population are psychopaths, and maybe 60-80% could be diagnosed with ASPD. You're not gonna tell me the Foreign Legion has more psychos or ASPDs than prison?
Some intelligent psychos can hook people into their grandiose "vision" and become 3rd world dictators, cult leaders or company CEOs, but no offense - intelligent psychos wouldn't be heading for the Foreign Legion, they'd be heading for the nearest Hedge fund LOL!!
I have met many, many psychopaths professionally. Not a single one would thrive in any half decent regular army unit.
Spraying bullets around the bush while high on drugs with the West Side Boys is something a psychopath could probably do quite well, but anything involving discipline, application, acceptance of authority and a long term goal? Forget it.
Sociopaths, or psychopaths, are motivated solely by things that aggrandise them, almost exclusively in the short term. A minority kill others because it makes them feel superior to their victim - a form of narcissistic supply. More often they just fuck other people over, lie, steal, bully and feel happy for getting one up.
Their inability to perceive long term consequences is behind their impulsivity and poor behavioural controls.
this looks intense that is why im going to army then after i might try for royal mrines if i get that then i try for something harder like a special force
hashsmoker123 we like them, honest as would a 12 year old like his 3 year old bro,, Para s have D Zs cause they cannot map read, Paras carry Logs, cause they are afraid of water, para s wear Red cause they can be seen lost on Salisbury Plains by the AAC. Paras are based in Aldershot, cause they need peer group Hugs from other Pongos, The Booties enjoyed taking the paras on an outing @ the falklands,,, hey its wat we do, Nice 2 B nice
the royal marines make up the majority of the sbs...arguably the best of uksf. there will always be rivalry between the elite forces.
Answer to your question: UKSF is made up of; SAS, SBS, joint special forces aviation wing, special forces reconnaissance regiment and the special forces support group
been hapenin for years mate, the paras are a dying breed , since a RM can do everything they can do aswell as the Amphibious assaults which the paras cannot do, the paras will most likely become a line infantry regiment eventually or be merged since the need for paratroopers now very rarely extends beyond the need of Uk special Forces
however uk airborne troops were parachuted into sierra leone in 2001 which is quite recent. yes while marines can do anything, we still need a dedicated airborne force as you never know when a full blown war looms in the future of an uncertain world. by the way im not hyping up the paras or anything as i myself am joining the marines soon.
shut the fuck up you dick, u think the royal marines are the most elite force, its not and P company is fuckin sick u complete retard go suck ur mum u fag.
stubostubbs or whatever your girly name is try the endurance run tarzan assault and the worst the 30 miler thats fucking pain, beats the hell out of p company
in my day they never got water breaks, i think the reason why is two guys in the eighties died of heat exhaustion on the 9 miler, you guys think its easy go ahead, try doing it instead of talking it
can anyone shed any light on the medical exam? ive had afew back and leg injurys. ive been snowboarding for 5 months a year for nearly ten years. i class myself as being in very good shape and my injurys cause no trouble to my riding. Only i wondered wether this would be picked up in the exam?
correct me if im wrong but i get the impression tht te para seem to do more physical work, like wieghts. and the marines seem to do more cardivascular work like running? am i wrong?
i hope i get the chance to undertake my training, got my PRMC at the end of the month but keep thinking there gonna pull me up for some medical reason or something.
I just noticed that we Americans look so much different than the British. It seems you guys have thinner faces and from what I can tell are less thick than Americans (correct me if I am wrong). I have seen more Royal Marines in my time in Iraq, and they do not look to great physical shape (muscles, not the heart, you guys definitely train more in running) Can somebody please correct me if I am getting the wrong impression?
er u prob have more experiance then me but 1 thing i do know for sure is That the royal marines r really fit i heard that they are as fit as international atheletes (might be a rumer) but never the less i cant apply for them because their 2 ELITE
they even say 99.% need not apply
only propa fit ppl get in thats why im going army u still need to be fit 4 the army just not as extreme as the royal marine commandos
you thought wrong, they do not expect you to be super fit when you enter the royal marines training process, you have to be fit, of course, but they train you up to be fit enough to pass through the tests, and those that don't make the grade at the regular tests either drop out, get back trooped, or get held back in hunter company to be 'fixed'
yes if you have a bigger stamina you will go for much much longer than you would if u had big muscles all thow you need alot of strenth fitness is much more important
Yeah, American military seems to focus on brute strength where the UK military seems to focus on stamina. I guess it's related to the way they operate - the US army relies on transportation a lot more, where the UK military spends a lot of time moving around by their own means
in america we do spend more time in vehicles getting around but on the same note even our airforce ca run a good 6 miles and march I think 20 for Csar which is what i reallly want to do and am training for, but regardless diversity is key and this is why america and britain will never lose together
i think that the USMC training drillsargents are meaner but the traing is less intense, and that the RMT drillers and alot nicer, but the traingings alot more intense
They're different organizations with a different focus. The RMC is a small group of highly trained light infantry commandos, whereas the USMC is a military in it's own right. The RMC's trademark is very intense training and a high level of professionalism, whereas the USMC's focus is an unnerving discipline and an almost unmatched esprit de corps.
its only pain! can anyone who is in the marines send me a message on how to prepare for these tought chllenges iam fit but if there is a marine or former marine reading this please give me a few tips privately thankyou :)
This is nonsense. 9 miles in 90 mins. is 10 min./mile all the way. The video shows very slow jogging and mostly walking and stopping for water, 3 times. Its impossible to maintain anything close to a 10 min. mile pace at that rate.
its piss easy once u done the trainingi recon u shld do a test !! run 3 miles and time urself and i recon tht wld b under 3o mins then do it again try n beat ur record and again trying to beat ur record once u hav nocked ur time down by a minuet add some weight maybe just a rucksack full of somink ligh i dono like a couple of towels or somink and get tht time to match ur best or beta and then add more weight
Well said xxcdoxx. Its 38 years 1970 sinice done this..we carried SLR 7,62 a tad heaiver than SA80 and troop weapons also,so some poor bastards got to carry the GPMG and Charlie G ..This was washed down with a section attack at the end AND WE FICKEN LOVED IT. We ran faster than a bit of skin at a grab a gronk night :) Cheers Royal
HI oppo small world on line lol I was 929 troop the first time around its gone full circle since then And low and behold 9 troop Zulu ..Take care Boots
US Army yank here......I was a Ranger, and during training we did an 8 mile forced march, we had kevlar helmets, a 60 pound rucksack(bergen) rifle and all the other crap....It was the worst day of my life, we had about 2 hours of sleep up to this point and were destroyed those 2 previous days physically.....I literally wanted to fall over and die lol
We got it done in 80 minutes, i still don't know how the hell I did that...got to want it i guess.
Use your brains fellahs, the Royal Marines are meant to be something more like Marine Recon. You're not supposed to compare them to the regular marine grunt. It would be like comparing US Rangers or French foreign legion to Brit regulars.
Ofcourse they build you up, this is in the commando phase at week 26+ and he said its one of the commando tests so its at week 31, i start RT in 16! Weeks! Counting down the minutes!
longforder 7 months ago
Do they build you up for the march?
mebecallum 8 months ago
Sempe fi to my Marine cousins across the see.Rah!
matthew562 11 months ago
I hate speed marching dont mind the bit where you run but the walking just destroys you.
ollie272 11 months ago
toughest thing about those marches is the gear your wearing,any person who is decently fit should be able to run 10 miles in an hr,so 9 miles in battle order in 1.30 hr isnt bad,over uneven ground.i ran 14 miles in 2 hrs with 55lb bergen but that was wearin trainers! besides about 15mins of that 1.30hr is taken off for drink breaks.
DONNIrish 1 year ago
The video REAL LIFE - COMMANDO (Royal Marines) 2000 - Part 5 states that a march of 30 miles in the rough terrain of dartmoor carrying 40lbs,,,, The S.A.S speed march consists roughly carrying 40lbs covering 40 miles in 24 hours. The video mentioned above of the Royal marine speed march of 30 miles carrying 40lbs in 8hrs is obviously corrupted is this fake proppaganda are we to have faith in our troops for unneccassary reason?
jprbur 1 year ago
@jprbur Not propaganda, just look up the commando course.
The 30 miler is one of the tests that has to be completed in Royal Marine training. It is done in 8 hours or less carrying fighting order weighing 32lbs plus a day sack with a few extras in (bringing it to around 40lbs). Royal Marines officers must complete it in under 7 hours and navigate the route themselves.
bl0odlu5t 1 year ago
@bl0odlu5t Thanks. Seems realistic now.
jprbur 1 year ago
I have just taken my 9 yr old daughter for a 4.2 ML speedmarch this evening. No kit and no water but I was proud of her. A marinette in the making perhaps?
hoppy1970 1 year ago
Twice the distance of my cross country. And I actually like cross country. So perhaps I could manage this pretty well.
ConfuzzledCub 1 year ago
@ConfuzzledCub it gets quite honkin wearing boots, trousers and 32lbs of kit. perhaps you could, perhaps you couldnt. but because you can run 4.5miles in trainers doensnt mean you can manage this well.
critchley17 1 year ago
@critchley17 I was wearing trousers in cross country, but not boots lol! And definately not 32lbs. And man, I didn't know how much more sensible I could get in 4 months, I mean, just looking at the comment makes me feel embarrassed now! I just turned 13 a few days ago, soooo.... But I do have a reputation of doing more press ups/push ups (I really can't tell the difference) than almost anyone at school that I know, apart from a few boys of course.
ConfuzzledCub 1 year ago
you piss youre self or shit
1982bricktop 2 years ago
what happens if you need to go to the bathroom in the middle of a speed march??? anyone know just curious
britishfetishman101 2 years ago
they just go at the rest stops... you can see them in the background
weirdelk 2 years ago
This is why I need to get training my cardio and my leg strength - 15 reps of 100kg squat here I come!
Will762 2 years ago
i wouldnt weighted squats wont dop shit
ridicule401 2 years ago
honestly if I were you Id try cycling
Great for cardio workouts, going along a flat straight just turn your gears up
If that don't work try rowing or a rowing machine, they usually work great
Jammersis 2 years ago
@Jammersis
Err, cheers for the advice mate, but I'm pretty experienced as far as PT is concerned.
Of course squats alone isn't all one needs, and cycling, rowing and running all have their places...but so do weighted squats (muscular strength and endurance in the weight range relevant to the loads one carries over the speed march and 30-miler.)
Y'see, I got my training all worked out! ;-)
Will762 2 years ago
@Will762 Look on their website, they have a training programme with exercises appropriate to the job, weights aren't used except to fasten your feet to the floot for various forms of situps.
ihaterobbie123 1 year ago
@ihaterobbie123 Yeah, I know the thing you're talking about - I saw it once or twice. But as I said beofore, doing various forms of weight-work including squats will absolutley help. Of course, one shouldn't get too fixated on them - weights are one part of a broad training programme.
Will762 1 year ago
@Will762 of course weights are important in a training programme but trust me ifyou want to do well you need to focus alot more on cardio work than strength
JamieN1690 1 year ago
@JamieN1690 The 30 miler, the Tarzan assault course, 60 press-ups and at least 10 chin-ups to get maximum points on your PRMC? Look - I've said it several times, but people obviously don't understand what I'm saying (about 4 people have replied to me now): Yes, do cardio, do loads of it, but you'd be mad not to use weights if you want to train to your phys to max potential. Do runners use weight? Do triathletes use weights? Yes!! But make sure you have a balanced training programme
Will762 1 year ago
this looks so easy.
when you actually do it though, it is one of the hardest things you will do in training. i've only ever done a 6 mile speed march, and believe me it completely destroys your legs. much respect to the RMC, balls of steel.
2Pac515 2 years ago
9 miler is possibly one of the easiest things you could do in training!
England4LifeWWFC 2 years ago
r u in the marines !
nathanaellogan 2 years ago
@England4LifeWWFC i thought it was nails tbh. each to hes own.
critchley17 1 year ago
its really not mate they only showed a brief clip its fukin nails trust me mate
nathanaellogan 2 years ago
read what i said again, past the first line.
2Pac515 2 years ago
Ive done it mate. Its 60% downhill. If you cant past the 9 miler youve got fuck all chance of passing any of the other tests.
England4LifeWWFC 2 years ago
it should be easy i can can march for miles i once walked 24 miles just so i could get my bike fixed
ridicule401 2 years ago
officer training is 15 and a half months
80skido 2 years ago
No white 490 it takes so long because we are the best trained force in the world
May i ask what you were in ?
royalmarine1664 2 years ago
Weyyyyyyyyyyy who is the Twat Rupert in the beginning of thiis Clip?? WOW !! Chinless Wonder, Me thought only the House hold wats its only got, Twats like him,,,,,,,,,, Some one Sort his Fukin Beret out for him,,,,,,,,,,,, he believes its a Cow Pat,,,,,,,,,,,,
keirfree 2 years ago
the drummer was sick
rugbylegend12 2 years ago
haha joker
Mikeayitt 2 years ago
USMC training is 13 weeks But remember it is called Basic or boot. You still have to go to your job training. I've known many "Royal Marines, Para's" etc. and most of them deserted from the Legion. Your all great when you are in your own gang, But do it on your own in a foreign land speaking a foreign language. We Britts, Yanks and the rest of the Western world were the weakest. Go and be better than the enemy. C#nt' s!!
white490 2 years ago
liar
ryeax23 2 years ago
You Telling me the legion can't march. You Say That Ex ROYAL MARINES and PARA's didn't desert From there. You're so sure that we are the Strongest. Typical Britt. Go put a bandage on your pride doc. I don't need to see yor time out card because I hurt your feelings.
white490 2 years ago
I know the Norse do 180 Klicks in training. I Know the Ruskies do about the same. In the legion its 180 klicks in the fourth month in the legion I did several marches over 30 days with 80 kilos. No Royal Marine Comando to Stand up to the Geniside I saw in Central Afrique. RMCs don't get put through the third floor window and then 2 weeks labor for being 15 seconds late for formation RMCs don't beat you for forgeting your standing orders. it takes 32 weeks because they are slow in the head.
white490 2 years ago
And RM training is 32 weeks basic training then the advanced training when they pass out.
But why would they even want to be in the legion? they probably left because it was pointless fighting for another country.
dynamicz108 2 years ago 2
Isn't it pointless to fight for any politicians advancement be it any country's? Any able bodied monkey can be trianed to do the physical part, and for the most part trained up intellectually. That's the nature of all military training. To be a legionnaire you need to be a sociopath. That's where True soldiers are as they are the one percent. You can be TRAINED as a soldier but at what cost to your personallity when it comes time to do your job. Anyway, In the end there is ALWAYS someone better.
white490 2 years ago
No not really because you are fighting for you country not someone elses!
go and compare the training requirements then you obviously dont know much about the RMs then.
dynamicz108 2 years ago
last thing I want to do is inadvertently talk you into this type of thing. what I wanted from the begining of these remarks is for young ones to understand if you judge a Unit A less than Unit B You are wrong in doing so. Most of my injuries came from the NON professional. It's simple to be a soldier. The only real thing special about SF is the dimension of time. The physical you can get anywhere. Don't think of doing this Until you can think abstractly. Play lots of chess as well as PT
white490 2 years ago
Well, that appears to be what you have done in some of your comments?
dynamicz108 2 years ago
too fucking right mate! well said
macky111222 2 years ago
That's not true. Psychopaths don't make good soldiers because their entire world revolves around themselves. Something like the Royal Marines requires teamwork.
And you could be as fit as you like, but doing something this gruelling day in day out would hurt. Sleep deprivation and niggling injuries would take a huge mental toll. Only motivation can see you through that barrier.
70% of applicants fail, but it's reckoned most are fit enough physically. That says it all.
gert83 2 years ago
That is why these soldiers suffer from such high levels of PTSD. Besides anyone who joins an armed force will be screened to see if they have these traits. Even the most antisocial can be trianed like pavlovs dogs. Psychotechnic test screen all 1st world soldiers and don't you dare tell me they don't. You are right, a Psychopath does not make a good soldier, but sociopathic traits do. Thats why the first death caused is usually an animal under survival training.
white490 2 years ago
Yeah, some psychopathic traits might work in a battle - e.g. low anxiety response, but many people have some psychopathic traits, very few are actually psychopaths. I have worked with psychopaths professionally, and I know a couple of ex- RMs very well, and believe me, they are not even close to being psychopaths. They love their families and 1 in particular is deeply troubled about mates and enemy soldiers he saw killed. A true psychopath wouldn't give a flying about anyone being killed.
gert83 2 years ago
white490 - plenty of grunts come from tough backgrounds and may have engaged in anti-social behaviour. If, however, it's part of a personality disorder there's no chance they'd make a unit like the RMs. People with ASPD lack persistence & goals, are narcissistic, abuse drugs, fight, steal etc. Something as testing as RM selection (or foreign legion training) is going to be completely unappealing to them. They'd disrupt everything, and if they didn't drop they'd be canned by the hierarchy.
gert83 2 years ago
white490 - FYI a psychopath is a grandiose narcissist who lacks conscience, lies, lacks empathy and an ability to learn from mistakes. They usually show extreme hedonism. some milder, more intelligent ones can do well in competitive environments e.g. sales, but generally I would say the army is about the worst environment for someone with any kind of psychopathic disorder. They're just not gonna turn up if they don't feel like it, and they'll stiff their mates if it suits them.
gert83 2 years ago
And for the record white490, someone with a psychopathic disturbance would probably be LESS vulnerable to PTSD, not more.
Psychopaths have shallow emotional development and a stunted fear response - they would be untroubled by memories of conflict for those reasons.
You'd be more likely to find psychopaths among the legions of scumbags who fought as lone mercenaries in places like Bosnia than in regular, trained units.
gert83 2 years ago
Yes I agree it would make them less vulneable To PTSD. My point. You are not following my argument. Anyone taking money for military service is by definition a mercenairy, correct? Whatever the motivation be it the patria, religion, economical, enviromental whatever. To Take Sold(ier) is mercenairy. You cannot justify the taking of money for martial service unless you are mercenairy, point blank. Don't want to be called mercenairy don't take the money (sold)
white490 2 years ago
and what do you mean by "sociopathic"? The RMs I have met are probably among the LEAST psychopathic individuals I have come across. To be a marine requires a big reserve of character, while psychopathy could be defined as an extreme lack thereof.
gert83 2 years ago
You are quite protective of these men. Good for you. Defending these men who Chose combat arms as not mercenairy is a laugh. Besides I didn't call them sociopathic. I said Legionnaires are sociopathic. No I do not mean all of them but good % are. Have X-RM deserted from the legion? YES. Whatever thier justification, They lacked the "big reserve of character" to continue as per thier word. I don't care that they deserted. many do.
white490 2 years ago
Were you in the Legion? I doubt any Legionnaires are truly psychopathic. The psychology of soldiering requires someone motivated to do things they don't like doing, for long periods of time.
Psychopaths do exclusively what suits them, usually in the short term.
So ex-RMs dropped out of the Legion, big deal. Some legionnaires would no doubt fail the commando course. Some RMs try and fail PCoy too, are they less elite than Paras?
gert83 2 years ago
Sociopaths are attracted to military service, They can see some action. Most all infantrymen are motivated by the excitement of combat and the accomplishment of the mission, sociopaths are motivated by the chance to cause death and destruction. They can be identified by the wild-eyed excitement they show when talking of how they plan to kill the enemy. Another sign is a love of knives and violent movies. This behavior is usually dismissed as dark humor or enthusiasm.
white490 2 years ago
Yes I served in the Legion.
"So ex-RMs dropped out of the Legion, big deal. Some legionnaires would no doubt fail the commando course. Some RMs try and fail PCoy too, are they less elite than Paras?" My argument is closer to these lines. Good job. Because thier training is thirty two weeks Doesn't make them the most elite soldiers on the planet. it makes them very well TRAINED.
white490 2 years ago
Sociopaths are often excellent soldiers, Dangerous if they lose control. Leadership must be aware of soldiers who demonstrate sociopathic tendencies. Before a unit enters combat, suspected sociopaths need counseling to let them know they demonstrate sociopathic tendencies and that they must keep those urges in check. They should be warned that if they show any sign of losing control by harming prisoners or civilians. They are likely shocked by such a warning, and thus keep the demons in check.
white490 2 years ago
Many sociopaths are unable to retain control and commit vicious war crimes. No excuse for such behavior. Hopefully, such incidents can be prevented by identifying sociopathic behavior beforehand and taking steps to deal with this mental illness. Given that some 2% of the general population shows sociopathic tendencies, and a volunteer military attracts a much higher percentage, keeping sociopaths in check is a major leadership challenge.
white490 2 years ago
Understood is that sociopathy is measured along a sliding scale. It is not a black and white clinical definition as grandiose narcissist, and that all sociopaths are Norman Bates suggests. These are very smart people capable of incredible acting to function as "normal". hell look at LAPD, haha,
white490 2 years ago
You're right, but 99.9% of the male population display psychopathic tendencies some of the time, but they're not psychopaths.
Intelligent psychopaths can prosper in competitive environments which don't require teamwork and a flabby conscience is a benefit - corporate environments, sales, estate agency (!), journalism, politics e.g. There's always some fraud somewhere though. Credit crunch anyone?
gert83 2 years ago
People who are not psychopaths can be conditioned to commit horrendous crimes - it's been shown many times.
All non-psychopaths who do these things will suffer serious mental consequences as a result.
gert83 2 years ago
white490, I can arrange for you to meet some real, 30 point + psychopaths, and you can tell me if you think they'd get in the marines or the Foreign Legion.
HINT - The answer would be "no" - they'd bully a few people, get in a few fights, get drunk, go AWOL when the going got tough then get turfed out.
Then they'd boast to everyone that they were in the marines as part of their latest attempt to find some shmo they could scam.
That's what they do, OK?
gert83 2 years ago
it seems we have established who they are, and we understand this definition. Still I learned this while watching a Caporal coax an african close enough to calm him and then cut his neck. The next week he was promoted to SGT. In Guyane a Leg1cl shot our Sgt in the leg. Sgt lost his jambre.Shooter Promoted to Cpl within a month. An anglaphonic leg. chopped up the limbs of the sleeping company duty CCH. 180 day in isolation. A Danish Cpl who battered a homosexual to death. recieved 180 days.
white490 2 years ago
A mutiney after a pirogee lost his American canteen cup. A cpl through a sleeping guard from the second story window lost most of his left pectoral muscle. A Leg1cl who trashed a police station breaking a Gendarmes nose, jaw several computers and furnishings. 10 days in the hole. A CCH who stabbed a Cpl. Promoted to Sgt that month. Cpl lost a good bit of lung. A 1cl who gouged out the eyes of a Cpl over a bowl of hot Chocolate. sent on sniper course.
white490 2 years ago
I knew each of them. The legion Has a Code Of Honour for outsiders. Don't you think that's maybe a little superfiscial? They are not force multiplyers they are almost directly from. the German National Socialists. They are SHOCK TROOPS. I wont even begin to tell anyone about Combat with them. You don,t need to believe me but go look on the 13th floor of the Armee hospital in Provance. Go look at a Centre for Anciens. Why do so many come with a "colourful" past?
white490 2 years ago
Give me more definitions of a sociopath and examples why they would not make it in the military. I will throw them back in your face. After 15 years of military service I am in the position to judge. I can see the signs as well as you, I know those men. I will never forget. A Legionnaire is not from the same cloth as a RM. They are different types achiving a like goal sure but not the same, RMs are not the best ever elite force of the world for that truth is circumstancial and subjective.
white490 2 years ago
I have heard the Legion has done a lot to up the quality of its recruits, one of which is barring crims from entry. Believe me, if you have too many psychopaths in a military unit you wouldn't have a quality outfit, you'd have the WEST SIDE BOYS.
The Legion is a quality unit, correct? It cannot have too many psychopaths.
gert83 2 years ago
Psychopathy is complex and not fully understood. Officially in the UK you basically have to be a crim to get a diagnosis, but when I read about guys like Jeff Skilling or Andy Fastow (Enron) their behaviour has "psycho" written all over it, and they made $mills before people realised.
I still think a disciplned military unit would be too much for most of 'em -too self centred and insubordinate, at least the ones I've met...
gert83 2 years ago
FYI, anyone who scores say 10 - 25 on the Hare checklist would be diagnosed as showing varying degrees of psychopathy. I suppose someone near the lower end of the scale could make a good soldier, but anyone mid-teens and above is going to be a serious nightmare, and they'd still only be classed as having a MILD disturbance.
gert83 2 years ago
white490, yes you know lots more about Legionnaires than I do, and I can accept mild psychopaths could survive or even be quite good in such a unit (or even British Paras).
True 26+ point psychopaths though? Phew! No way!! They're COMPLETE IDIOTS. They have been described as moral imbeciles, and it's a fitting description.
gert83 2 years ago
Yeah, it's possible someone with mild psychopathic tendencies could make a good soldier, but a true psychopath? Not in a million years.
They're completely uncontrollable, totally immune from discipline, they'd be insubordinate, they would go AWOL and they'd be a liability in a team.
FYI a true psychopath is really something special. They're not even on this fucking planet, and there aren't many of them.
gert83 2 years ago
I dealt with a psychopath one once who was due for parole. Was he sorry for his crime? His exact response was that he "was sorry he had to do it" but that he would do it again if he "needed" to.
His crime? Tipping lighted petrol through someone's letterbox 'cos they ripped him off.
All he had to do was express remorse, but no! his warped sense of self prevented him from doing what was good for him. Back he went, and is still there as far as I know.
An IMBECILE.
gert83 2 years ago
I see your point exactly. Ted Bundy would not survivie in that environment. The Legion has cleaned it's recrutment alot. Major felons would not only be turned away but more than likley turned over to interpol. Still a legionnaire I new chopped at the steel door of his prostitute girl friend who was having sex with other men. Go figure a girl like that. legionnaire was sent to work at the commando course in the middle of the forest. He was very much into the drugs, alcohol, girls < than others.
white490 2 years ago
Yep. Ted Bundy actually escaped from jail and killed while he was on the run. This is how extreme the psychopathic inability to learn from consequence can be.
FYI, being diagnosed psychopathic (or ASPD, as we in the UK erroneously label it) can be grounds for indefinite detention, with good reason.
I'd be interested to know if you had serious numbers of repeat offenders? That would indicate, to me, a high incidence of personality disorder in the Legion.
gert83 2 years ago
Another "Johnny Walker" and a French Legionnaire nurse, held a family hostage under gun point trying to get a supply of fresh crack from the local creols. He was my soldier. I am sure they sent them away for five years though. Funny I haven't even got through the first two years with these stories, He was a little slower than the others.
white490 2 years ago
I think as understanding of psychopathy has developed (and it's still not properly understood!) armies, including the Legion, have tried to screen these types out.
Psychopathic soldiers caused huge problems for the yanks in Vietnam cos a large part of their army was conscripted from dregs/ prison!!
Even the Paras I have met, who are probably more like the Legion, are not psychopathic, although they'd have a punch up with anyone.
gert83 2 years ago
I suppose our cadets was run by an ex-para and his favourite story was how he tried to get discharged by stealing generators from his barracks. It didn't work -9 months in the nick then back on. He told us that story every time we went out.
I suppose he was amusing in his own way, though he did make us smoke lambert &butler.
Deid now though, Lung Cancer, unsurprisingly.
He did smoke like a trooper.
gert83 2 years ago
I guess they are everywhere.Like you say, and very scarey. I think like you say there would be a good many repeat offenders. They do a "banan" got to jail get out do it again, change identity go to another regiment, and so on even if you had there names that month it could be something other the next. an officer once told 90% of his time was dedicated to 10% of the legionnaires.
white490 2 years ago
Maybe that is why such strict control is applied in the first 5 years. a sort of prove yourself cooling off piriod. no family no bank account, no car. holiday to only legion holiday camps. no civi cloths
white490 2 years ago
I think even 10% is high percentage compaired to a normal population although not as high as the prisons. no wonder it felt like a prison sentance.
white490 2 years ago
many like them would not be invited back even if they recieved an honourable. Alot of them desert as well. If the legion has 10,000 legs. on the books there may only be 8,000 effective, and then 7,500 in the ranks. If the sentences the boys got might seem light they then have to return ranks and get a good beating from the NCOs. to remind them. Alot of them didn't seem to care if they got a beating though and would be back at it after a regroup of the faculties and a test of the water.
white490 2 years ago
Psychopathy is a cluster of personality trats though. Someone like Bundy showed every psychopathic trait in abundance. someone who only showed 3 or 4 would sill count as a complete arsehole, but would not officially be a psychopath. I guess diagnosis is somewhat arbitrary. Like I say, officially in the UK only a crim can be diagnosed,meaning "offically" there's can't be more than maybe 250,000 (crims + ex crims combined). Incidence of narcissism is thought to be rising, though.
gert83 2 years ago
About 30% of prison populations are psychopathic - 10x the general population. BTW 3% psycho means that in the UK about 1.8mill people in the UK are psychopaths, prison population is 80,000. Do the math, as they say.
gert83 2 years ago
Yeah they're scarey. I've definitely come across those I suspect in corp. environments. They bully and fire people for no reason, steal deals and know the right cock to suck to stay in a job.
Corp. environments are different though - if u make money u can be a loner, break rules and still get promo'd. Military units rely on teamwork - totally essential to any mission, no lone sharks doing their own thing tolerated.
gert83 2 years ago
True psychopaths score 26+/40 on the Hare checklist. To get a score like that you have to show a lot of selfish, manipulative behaviour. In a military unit someone like that would be battered to death by fellow recruits.
Having a temper and a violent streak doesn't make you a psycho, otherwise half of Scotland would be diagnosed psychopathic LOL!!!
gert83 2 years ago
BTW white490, there is thought to be 2 "types" of psychopathic disturbance - one which is overtly anti-social and another which is sub-criminal.
The 1000 euro/ month legionnaire pay cheque would have no appeal for the sub-criminal psychopath - he'd be off working out how to make a mill shorting NASDAQ, or sucking Mugabe off in return for an arms deal or two.
gert83 2 years ago
True psychopaths would make horrendous soldiers, and if you think anything otherwise you haven't met one. They'd disobey any rule that didn't suit them, no matter how much punishment resulted. they'd slot an officer or colleague at a drop, they'd bully other recruits, they'd compromise missions, they'd desert, they would hand stuff over to the enemy for a tenner, the list goes on.
You need to meet a true psychopath, then you'd know what I mean.
gert83 2 years ago
white490, max. 30% of the prison population are psychopaths, and maybe 60-80% could be diagnosed with ASPD. You're not gonna tell me the Foreign Legion has more psychos or ASPDs than prison?
Some intelligent psychos can hook people into their grandiose "vision" and become 3rd world dictators, cult leaders or company CEOs, but no offense - intelligent psychos wouldn't be heading for the Foreign Legion, they'd be heading for the nearest Hedge fund LOL!!
gert83 2 years ago
I have met many, many psychopaths professionally. Not a single one would thrive in any half decent regular army unit.
Spraying bullets around the bush while high on drugs with the West Side Boys is something a psychopath could probably do quite well, but anything involving discipline, application, acceptance of authority and a long term goal? Forget it.
gert83 2 years ago
Sociopaths, or psychopaths, are motivated solely by things that aggrandise them, almost exclusively in the short term. A minority kill others because it makes them feel superior to their victim - a form of narcissistic supply. More often they just fuck other people over, lie, steal, bully and feel happy for getting one up.
Their inability to perceive long term consequences is behind their impulsivity and poor behavioural controls.
gert83 2 years ago
already have
rickycalzaghehatton1 2 years ago
like fuck u have if u have tell me what you keep in your right 2nd from front ammo pounch on your webbing
shadey788 2 years ago
omg 3 water stops,,,22pounds easy man...
rickycalzaghehatton1 2 years ago
u fucking do it
shadey788 2 years ago
this looks intense that is why im going to army then after i might try for royal mrines if i get that then i try for something harder like a special force
Hakkae 2 years ago
I will be doing that next year.
showamantime 2 years ago
Marines Fucking Rule!!!!!
Joining In about 10 months as i am only 15 :( want to join earlier anyways best of wishes to anyone that goes for the marine course.
clnotty 2 years ago
hashsmoker123 we like them, honest as would a 12 year old like his 3 year old bro,, Para s have D Zs cause they cannot map read, Paras carry Logs, cause they are afraid of water, para s wear Red cause they can be seen lost on Salisbury Plains by the AAC. Paras are based in Aldershot, cause they need peer group Hugs from other Pongos, The Booties enjoyed taking the paras on an outing @ the falklands,,, hey its wat we do, Nice 2 B nice
keirfree 2 years ago
lol i never thought i would see it looks to me like the RM don,t like the paras.
is that because almost 60% of the paras and 3 para make up that s.a.s??
this is real qestion:so there is s.a.s and sbs i can,t really think of anyother UK SF
if somone knows all UK special Forces
hashsmoker123 2 years ago
the royal marines make up the majority of the sbs...arguably the best of uksf. there will always be rivalry between the elite forces.
Answer to your question: UKSF is made up of; SAS, SBS, joint special forces aviation wing, special forces reconnaissance regiment and the special forces support group
jammyk87 2 years ago
Oh please don't tell me some girly P Company Pongo is trying to make out that their training is harder!!!
jpfitness123 2 years ago
been hapenin for years mate, the paras are a dying breed , since a RM can do everything they can do aswell as the Amphibious assaults which the paras cannot do, the paras will most likely become a line infantry regiment eventually or be merged since the need for paratroopers now very rarely extends beyond the need of Uk special Forces
JamiieIrvine 2 years ago
however uk airborne troops were parachuted into sierra leone in 2001 which is quite recent. yes while marines can do anything, we still need a dedicated airborne force as you never know when a full blown war looms in the future of an uncertain world. by the way im not hyping up the paras or anything as i myself am joining the marines soon.
Shyamp92 2 years ago
shut the fuck up you dick, u think the royal marines are the most elite force, its not and P company is fuckin sick u complete retard go suck ur mum u fag.
sarahbaybeh2k9x 2 years ago
stubostubbs or whatever your girly name is try the endurance run tarzan assault and the worst the 30 miler thats fucking pain, beats the hell out of p company
thegunsareback 2 years ago
in my day they never got water breaks, i think the reason why is two guys in the eighties died of heat exhaustion on the 9 miler, you guys think its easy go ahead, try doing it instead of talking it
thegunsareback 2 years ago 2
they get water breaks?
Toemta 2 years ago
can anyone shed any light on the medical exam? ive had afew back and leg injurys. ive been snowboarding for 5 months a year for nearly ten years. i class myself as being in very good shape and my injurys cause no trouble to my riding. Only i wondered wether this would be picked up in the exam?
bergcrew 3 years ago
Para Regt, 10 miles, 1 hr 40 or quicker with 40 lbs.
No girly water stops provided, You want water, you carry it.
stubbostubbs 3 years ago
kop3333 Para s cannot map read, if they could they would be in the R E s or R E ME, So! para,s do, the dig in shit ! Hey They are Army !! :)
keirfree 3 years ago
correct me if im wrong but i get the impression tht te para seem to do more physical work, like wieghts. and the marines seem to do more cardivascular work like running? am i wrong?
kop3333 3 years ago 2
fuk off
royalmarine40cdo 3 years ago
i only asked a question
kop3333 3 years ago 2
para's do have big heads to carry around, so technically your right.......hahaha
fremlinskentisaprick 3 years ago
I'd love to train with these guys. True warriors.
MotoUSMC 3 years ago 2
ur guys are graet soldiers too, england and america true comrades!
sarahbaybeh2k9x 2 years ago
fucking the u.k england is'nt a fucking independent country fuck knob
shadey788 2 years ago
england isn't a country my friend.
Our soldiers are British soldiers representing the country which is called 'the United Kingdom'.
harrychown1989 2 years ago
ooo sorry mister fuckin geography man, england is a country and the UK is all the countries in the british isles, u idiot....
sarahbaybeh2k9x 2 years ago
the UK is a country made up of 4 constituent countries (pretty similar to what they call states in the USA and Australia)
These constituent countries (which are not independent nations) are England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Idioto
harrychown1989 2 years ago
i hope i get the chance to undertake my training, got my PRMC at the end of the month but keep thinking there gonna pull me up for some medical reason or something.
jordan16johnson 3 years ago
officer was a right ruppert
neapsandsprings 3 years ago
I just noticed that we Americans look so much different than the British. It seems you guys have thinner faces and from what I can tell are less thick than Americans (correct me if I am wrong). I have seen more Royal Marines in my time in Iraq, and they do not look to great physical shape (muscles, not the heart, you guys definitely train more in running) Can somebody please correct me if I am getting the wrong impression?
ExArmySniper 3 years ago
ur not wrong.xtra muscle weight needs more food to feed it and so carry it.if u've got weapons and unarmed skills why carry xtramuscle
neapsandsprings 3 years ago
er u prob have more experiance then me but 1 thing i do know for sure is That the royal marines r really fit i heard that they are as fit as international atheletes (might be a rumer) but never the less i cant apply for them because their 2 ELITE
they even say 99.% need not apply
only propa fit ppl get in thats why im going army u still need to be fit 4 the army just not as extreme as the royal marine commandos
lHoodlum 3 years ago
you thought wrong, they do not expect you to be super fit when you enter the royal marines training process, you have to be fit, of course, but they train you up to be fit enough to pass through the tests, and those that don't make the grade at the regular tests either drop out, get back trooped, or get held back in hunter company to be 'fixed'
leonface 3 years ago
same mate im not fit enough for the marines so im joinin army, wot u joinin? im joinin infantry :D
sarahbaybeh2k9x 2 years ago
yes if you have a bigger stamina you will go for much much longer than you would if u had big muscles all thow you need alot of strenth fitness is much more important
cmcd1987 3 years ago
American soldiers seem to look a lot more muscular, although my opinion is probably based on movies - which obviously portray soldiers as idealised.
Muscle mass is useless in a 21st century war. Endurance is the name of the game.
ronMexico121 2 years ago 2
Yeah, American military seems to focus on brute strength where the UK military seems to focus on stamina. I guess it's related to the way they operate - the US army relies on transportation a lot more, where the UK military spends a lot of time moving around by their own means
mobytoss 2 years ago
in america we do spend more time in vehicles getting around but on the same note even our airforce ca run a good 6 miles and march I think 20 for Csar which is what i reallly want to do and am training for, but regardless diversity is key and this is why america and britain will never lose together
lukesimianer 2 years ago
yea they like to use alot of transportation in iraq to but ieds stop that.
you would think if a reg head could figuer out your vonrability you could to right.
hashsmoker123 2 years ago
Beasty! I'd love to be at that standard of fitness. Better get jogging then... :P
oOMissJediOo 3 years ago
i think they march slower than normal regiments or is it just me lol
the first time i did speed march (im in cadets) i was fucked absolutly fucked but after the first weekend it gets easyer
i guess pain is a state of mind
youcantstopRNR 3 years ago
The Paras do (or did) 10 miles + 30lb bergan + rifle in 105 minutes. So a slightly slower pace, but carrying heavier kit.
fremlinskent 3 years ago
Spadez is very true indeed
HandycamHandyman 3 years ago
no flaks or kevlar? what is this crap
1940 era training
SS13E3 3 years ago
15km 90min, that's a pretty good pace
plarules 3 years ago
i think that the USMC training drillsargents are meaner but the traing is less intense, and that the RMT drillers and alot nicer, but the traingings alot more intense
Spadez9559 3 years ago
VERY TRUE MATE
xMuscles 3 years ago
They're different organizations with a different focus. The RMC is a small group of highly trained light infantry commandos, whereas the USMC is a military in it's own right. The RMC's trademark is very intense training and a high level of professionalism, whereas the USMC's focus is an unnerving discipline and an almost unmatched esprit de corps.
mhesi 3 years ago 3
lifesmatt yer Profile says your 27!! wtf ? you into Kinky convos here ? pain ?
keirfree 3 years ago
its only pain! can anyone who is in the marines send me a message on how to prepare for these tought chllenges iam fit but if there is a marine or former marine reading this please give me a few tips privately thankyou :)
lifesmatt 3 years ago
Loved the drummer at the end.
Sangrenegra9 3 years ago
their similiar to SAS forces!!
gokumalo 4 years ago
their similiar to SAS forces!!
gokumalo 4 years ago
their similiar to SAS forces!!
gokumalo 4 years ago
This is nonsense. 9 miles in 90 mins. is 10 min./mile all the way. The video shows very slow jogging and mostly walking and stopping for water, 3 times. Its impossible to maintain anything close to a 10 min. mile pace at that rate.
medliberty 4 years ago
2 cousins in the marines. it is definately possible. they do tain and build upto this test.
awayfromhome 4 years ago
its piss easy once u done the trainingi recon u shld do a test !! run 3 miles and time urself and i recon tht wld b under 3o mins then do it again try n beat ur record and again trying to beat ur record once u hav nocked ur time down by a minuet add some weight maybe just a rucksack full of somink ligh i dono like a couple of towels or somink and get tht time to match ur best or beta and then add more weight
12487643 3 years ago
I'm an ex bootneck and they do the 9 miles in 90 mins or under. Get yourself down to Lympstone and run behind them if you don't believe it.
bagsey34 3 years ago
Done it 20 years ago ...still do it today..a serving Royal....welcome you to come and prove me wrong.
xxcdoxx 3 years ago
Well said xxcdoxx. Its 38 years 1970 sinice done this..we carried SLR 7,62 a tad heaiver than SA80 and troop weapons also,so some poor bastards got to carry the GPMG and Charlie G ..This was washed down with a section attack at the end AND WE FICKEN LOVED IT. We ran faster than a bit of skin at a grab a gronk night :) Cheers Royal
old45marine 3 years ago
Same here with the SLR (537 trp). I'm ex 45. 8 troop, Zulu.
4709mwbb 3 years ago
HI oppo small world on line lol I was 929 troop the first time around its gone full circle since then And low and behold 9 troop Zulu ..Take care Boots
old45marine 3 years ago
US Army yank here......I was a Ranger, and during training we did an 8 mile forced march, we had kevlar helmets, a 60 pound rucksack(bergen) rifle and all the other crap....It was the worst day of my life, we had about 2 hours of sleep up to this point and were destroyed those 2 previous days physically.....I literally wanted to fall over and die lol
We got it done in 80 minutes, i still don't know how the hell I did that...got to want it i guess.
Garcia0384 4 years ago
If the Royal Marines were Airborne you would probably have us beat, I Like what you guys do.
Garcia0384 4 years ago
If the Royal Marines were Airborne you would probably have us beat, I Like what you guys do.
Garcia0384 4 years ago
The commando test on marching is 30 miles in full fighting order.
This is just a taster.
8G00SE8 3 years ago
Both US Rangers and RMs training and selection is based on British WWII commando brigades.
gert83 2 years ago
royal marines eat usmc for breakfast no even beter for a snack hail britania
d12dtwizzy 4 years ago 3
Royal Marines rock! Go on Lads!!!
azdalin2000 4 years ago 3
U.S. Navy Seals.....the most elite fighting force in the world.
zzot2 4 years ago
HA what a load of bollocks even a stupid american would know that's not true.
Bcross9292 3 years ago
Use your brains fellahs, the Royal Marines are meant to be something more like Marine Recon. You're not supposed to compare them to the regular marine grunt. It would be like comparing US Rangers or French foreign legion to Brit regulars.
JAL19731 4 years ago
also bear in mind the USMC is about 24x the size of the RMC..
sureshot649 4 years ago