this does makes you wonder... if the human race does give birth to a higher intelligence that becomes "god like" and expands out into the universe..., and new universes are possibly being born all the time.... how many of these infinitely superior beings are there out there? and are they bound to the universe they started in or do they spread into all? are they here already? have they always been here?
@Lucianferre Thought the same thing. Whats to keep beings from another universe from coming here, i doubt we would notice them if they didn't want us to see them. I suppose we just have to wait for the data to come in about the origins of the universe.
2030s singularity takes place, infinite technological progress, imaginary vr is commonplace, people will get to live any fantasy no matter how impossible, ultimate happiness
2200 universe becomes intelligent
2999 everything thats imaginable even unimaginable and everything beyond will be controlled and becomed of by posthuman, A.I. entities
3000 perfectly everything, omniverses, omni creations, gods, entities, etc.. everything thinkable will be controlled by perfect beings. fact
This may or may not be true. I saw the documentary about Ray Kurzweil. He's got this strange obsession with bringing his dead father back to life. I think all of this is creepy and just plain wrong. I know I for one don't want a chip in my brain, as the documentary shows.
@planetsaver1 yeah the idea is that in the future immortality will be available because once the singularity is reached, humans will be able to biotechnologically upgrade themselves so that they reverse aging or at least stop it. and taht some humans will be like the amish today, they will jsut decide not to do it and they'll walk around society not affecting anything really. they're just there. Biological Humans will be a minority
@frankenshizzle . I wanted to say that I agree to the idea that AI is not all about processing power. Although it is probably a component. Before I say this I wanted to say that I'm not an expert on the field, but I do know a little about computer networks, and a bit about the brain.
We can both agree that the brain is a network. The most complex one we know. The internet is also a network. Imagine if the internet had as many if not more nodes then the brain. Would it then be strong AI?
@finaman12 I understand exponential growth just fine... I understand that we have found certain technologies -particularly the ones that can be quantitatively "ranked", Like processing power, or number of illnesses cured, etc..- lie on an exponential trendline. Though I also understand that the main proponent for this "humanity changing" technological explosion, is the predicted development of a 'human grade' artificial intelligence.
I'm saying AI is not a matter of processing power.
@frankenshizzle We know the brain is a vast collection of circuits that fire together. The brain is full of nodes that interact together in a beautiful and dynamic fashion. The most important thing it does is detect patterns. I'm putting to the table, the idea that if the internet had enough users, it could render AI to an emergent process which wouldn't take 100's of years to develop. But we'd probably need nanotech to make it practical - save that the AI would be internet dependent.
One problem have this singularity Idea is that artificial intelligence (of a human magnitude) is not something that just appears one day when computers have a certain processing power.. The mind is a biosphere of thought. To emulate all the human minds intellectual components - like assimilation and association, sensory abstraction, subjective reasoning, A catharsis system, etc... - is an achievement that far surpasses "number crunching"
I think it will be 100's of years before we see a true AI.
i wanna die, i mean i wanna get old and die, i believe in reincarnation and like everyone i'm curious of what is gonna happen when i die
all this is just bull s***, it's pointless, we want robots that think for us? IT's RIDICULOUS, i love MY smart moments and there is no need for a super intelligence at all, a super intelligence for making what?
we just need a better world, getting rid of money and sad problems, computers and robots are cool but for getting rid of hard work, not for thinking
@Terminchiator i want to add that if we are cool and smart we must make robots that can work WITHOUT intelligence and that's pretty possible, just take a look at the factory near your home
all of this sounds like a gigantic powerful engine without a car frame, we must TAKE OUR TIME, keep up the good work and never believe in destiny but accept reality, this singularity seems to be just an end not a start
I thought this video stated that man would inevitably transgress into machines, so why all of that doom saying at the end? The moral implications would still be great though...
I am the Singularity ^_^ Earth will remain Earth and any solar systems capable of supporting life will remain capable of supporting life... terraformatted if necessary. Systems not capable of supporting life will be converted into dyson spheres that are not only capable of supporting life but act as massive hybrotic brains linked via quantum entangled communication ^_^
@PinkProgram LOL Pink. Why do we keep running into each other, eh? lol
Usually I agree with you, but I have just one bone to pick. How can we use quantum entanglement to communicate? As I understood it; the utter random nature of entanglement means it's obnoxiously good for creating encryption codes, but not so great for communication, travel, or networks.
Am I correct, or is there something I'm missing about quantum entanglement?
@Xeletoph If atom A = + then B = - from that you can get 0 and 1. At its core you can send binary data. It can get more com[plicated if you change the state of A into a quantum field and spin it which B would mirror the opposite. It is also good for encryption in that there is no real way to intercept the transmission. It isn't actually sending a signal, the two points are just reacting to each others state. There is literally nothing to intercept. The data only exists at the two points :D
@PinkProgram Ah. So by employing a controlled binary code and then translating that code with magnetics we can find a pattern with which to instantly communicate across VAST distances?
That's fucking awesome! Nerd power to the max, man.
As you could see, I was of the state of mind that entanglement was only really good for encryption. In this case, I'm glad to be wrong. :)
You can't possibly predict post-Singularity though. Once we do manage to create true AI, it will eventually evolve into SAI by some form, which is Superior Artificial Intelligence. It is not possible to predict post-Singularity because of this - we cannot predict the actions of a... species, if you will, that is more advanced than us. When the technological advancement is truly rising that quickly, I doubt we would even comprehend it, much less recognize it.
nice song video but uhm its called asmos law or something like that wich says you cant kill harm or hurt a human, and must defend humans at all costs, if fail they will self terminate, a robot should not protect a human from another human only everthing else
it may be sooner than 2050. alan moore is saying 2015 and terence mckenna is saying 2012. if this CERN thing manages to create a big bang, and we are somehow able to do this in a controlled manner, this literally means that we can create our own realities.
I haven't read Kurzweil's work so I don't know if this issue has been addressed but I keep wondering what will happen if we encounter other highly intelligent life in the process of waking up the universe. If our machines are built to the blueprint of the brain of the terrestrial great ape, what will happen if we encounter intelligent aliens who don't fit the blueprint? Will there be some kind of unimaginable warfare?
@bighands69 But it seems like a primary function of every post-singularity system of intelligence will be to interact with the human brain on a very intimate level (that is, if we have anything to say about it. Lets hope we always do!).
I disagree with the 'fate' of the singularity, as becoming an intelligence of colossal 'physical' proportions. However I will agree that something very similar to the singularity will take place. As for the time? Honestly, 2050 sounds as though it is too early. Perhaps...2100? And that's removing the possibility of regression.
When I first heard of the singularity I was opposed to it as my emotional position dictated my judgement.
When I studied the mathematical models that are quite predictable I discovered that the growth trends are quite easily tracked that can show the power of computation in a given time frame.
Even if Kurzweil has over estimated the the power say for example 10 times too much it would only knock back the time by a few years even 1000 times would only be 5 to 10 years or slightly more.
I'm not convinced that the singularity, if it's viable, will be kicked off by self-improving AI. I think it will be kicked off by self-improving organic minds.
This is already occurring, and has been occurring for the last 200ky. Those early humans had the same brain as we do, yet enculturization has slowly optimized it's function... and I don't think it's fully optimized. And before it is, we will have additional augmentation to expand it's function... internally and integrated, this time.
It's clear that the hardware capable of producing AI is far outstripping the software efforts. To better understand how to build true AI, I think it will be necessary to first reverse engineer our own minds... and efforts such as the BlueBrain project have already reached neo-cortical emulation on par with house cats. They claim full human neocortical emulation will occur within the decade.
I think the first true AI's will be by all means human, and further advancement will see convergence.
Early humans for 100,000 years ago are not neurologically different then we are today. There was a time that we knew nothing, and feared everything. Our early ancestors were practically dropped out of the trees and flung onto the ground before we were very well land evolved. Other creatures are so much faster, so much stronger. What does a hand do against a claw? The only difference between us and our early ancestors is that we know more, and we have developed technology.
Technology that counts at the first wheel, or even the first wooden spear. All technology has ever done since its inception, is double every year or so. As we advance, technology advances. Of course, computers can evolve at far greater rates then we. The scale that you're talking about is 100's of millions of years, and frankly if we don't have a technological singularity way before then, we'll get fucked from behind by mistress extinction.
I've made a great many comments on this video. I love this song, and the production its self is fantastic. Dr. Steel is an excellent musician. However, after all this time I have a bone to pick with this video - Kurzweil, the man you're sighting in this video, says that the Turing Test is too easy. He says that we probably wont have a strong general AI program until 2029 or so.
@Flamesync Why do I think this will occur sooner? Because technology evolves on a exponential level. Think about video game systems. They went 1 bit, 2 bit, 4 bit, 8 bit, 16 bit, 32 bit, 64 bit - that's exponential advancement. Numbers can start off small but get very large VERY quickly and suddenly. This is why something like a technological singularity can occur in the first place - it's a mathematical probability. As for which nation? As it stands now, Japan is likely. Their tech is highest.
@Xeletoph It doesn't matter which country has the "highest tech", there is this thing called "the handicap of headstart"... Japan is currently considered as more advanced because they're the last country that became fully industrialized so they have the best infrastructure. China will surpass Japan in less than 20 years.
I'm doing some research on this concept for a class at the moment, an important fact to keep in mind is that there will be a limit to improvement. So with the singularity we might approach the maximum capacity we can reach faster, but it can't go on forever exponentially according to Stephen Hawking.
Of course not. The exponential growth will only last for a time. But there's a strong possibility of more then one singularity occurring, they could even kick off one and other like a chain of singularities.
The truth is, nobody can know when, where, or if this will ever take place, marvelous a concept as it is. I fully look forward to evolove to rise or fall, by becoming non-biological :)
All this talk about an upcoming technological singularity when there is not even an effective treatment for receding hairline yet as of 2010. Kurzweil and other futurists pick events that appear to demonstrate exponential technological increase leading up to a singularity, ignoring other events that do not.
Nope. There is well known effective treatment and it's called castration. No testosterone no negative effects of it like hair loss, prostate overgrow and probably few other. But sexual drive will drop... choice is yours. :)
I think humans were the carbon singularity, completely untouchable just for a minute in the year long history of the World and off we went. Bring on the next Singularity, I believe it will be a collective dream of complete unity and equality for machines which Mankind will NEVER achieve. No more torture or fear, lies or hatred, envy or loss. And after that, what is the next singularity? Machines and Time? Then we could do it all again, YIPEE!!!
We're developing computer's so rapidly because there is a DEMAND for it. Tell me, what demand is there for an Artificial Intelligence that lords it over us? It's dangerous and everyone knows it. Trust me, they'll tone it down before it gets to that point.
Our own selfishness and jealousy will be the very things that will not allow the singularity to happen.
URP, you are not understanding the concept of AI. This is not going to be about a machine dominated humanity, this is about humanity transcending the limitations of our biology. Strong AI will be the catalyst for this concept and it is believed that consciousness downloading will be completely developed by 2045 - many people will dump their frail carbon bonds and become virtual and silicon. Nothing can, nothing will stop this. Just strap in, enjoy the ride, and keep your hands and feet in.
Yes, completely. And this fear of machine take over is completely retarded and irrelevant. Are people scared of washing machines, calculators, microwaves, refrigerators? Of course not... at least not sane people. See, 70 years ago, washing your clothing meant busting your knuckles on a wooden washboard. Today it means throwing them into a machine which can get them clean, faster and better then any human ever could. Robots will be a tool of humanity, and strong AI will not change this.
Right now, there are several technological companies that are working on HUMAN FRIENDLY AI. People need to understand that AI is going to start off relatively infantile. We need to treat these machines like our children - raise them with love, compassion, and wisdom. This will cause them to grow and love humans, and never want to raise a hand to them. This fear of machine take over needs to go. Sophia Stewart, and HG Wells were Sci-fi writers, not profits.
@Xeletoph Clearly. But I'm still a little skeptical about the whole "virtual existence" part. How exactly does one transfer data that completely comprehends a persons soul? I can see creating physical representations of human beings in a virtual world but to actually 'live' in one?
IF this were possible..I do not see it occurring anywhere near the foreseeable future. However, I must admit that this concept of a technological singularity is quite intriguing.
Well, firstly you're dealing with a substance dualism problem. But, that's beside the point. The point I'll explain to you is this: The brain meshes beautifully with circuitry, mostly because the bioelectric signals of the brain, and the electrical signals of a computer chip speak very similar languages. In labs they have taken a culture of a rat brain, and placed it on a computer chip that operates a flight sim. With some compounds, the neurons bond with the nodes on the chip *con't*
*con't* and over time will actually learn how to operate the flight sim. They can then take a culture from the chips and put it back in the rat brain and then the rat brain automatically knows how to operate the flight sim. Look up the blue gene project, look up project brain gate, and google 'consciousness downloading' - you can find reputable articles about how scientists have determined that the liquid ware of the brain will be completely redundant by 2040.
And by 2045, the rich will be able to download their brains onto the net. by 2075, the technology will be available to the poor. Most youngsters alive today, may never have to die at all. That is the wonder of technology.
Just think - a ps3 is 1% as powerful as your brain and the ps5 will probably be equal to your brain in terms of FLOPS. Kurzwiel ( who's been right about this kinda thing on quite a few occasions) suggests that by 2029 there will be a true AI, and that AI will kick off the beginning of the technological singularity.
Who says that their will not be corporations dying to produce such technologies in order to gain corporate profit? Perhaps human greed will enable exactly that to happen. Science is becoming more capitalized.
Theres an Iron Man comic where Tony Stark makes an iron man suit that's so advanced it becomes self-aware. To avoid the obvious dangers Stark eventually shelves the intelligent thing and reverts back to a less advanced model.
All I'm saying is that, for the same reasons, mankind won't allow our machines to become so intelligent that grow beyond our control. And even if it did, it wouldnt happen without a war, such as whenever theres a conflict of interest.
Let's just hope it happens in our lifetime. I'd be pretty pissed if I died before imortality came around. Perhaps I could freeze meself and get resurrected :P
It will. Or it is supposed to. Infact, Immortality is suppose to come before the peak in singularity in about 30-40 years, and singularity in about 60, but then again, after immortality comes along, it doesnt really matter how long away it is, you just have to make sure you dont get brutally murdered.
Technological singularity with conscious machines is just a prediction, even though technological paradigm shifts will continue to happen at an increasing rate it doesn't mean conscious machines are realizable, for starters we don't know what consciousness is and a philosophical zombie will pass the Turing test without being conscious and so on. The point is, strong AI remains a prediction and not a necessary part of any technological singularity.
The problem with that is how we don't know what consciousness *is*, just as we don't know what thinking *is*, or what a soul *is*. The brain is essentially the firing of hundreds of billions of bio electric nodes. It's a network of wires that are connected through biochemical signals. The internet its self is very similiar to a brain and the way it works. What if hundreds of billions of "nodes"(users) populated the net? Would that result in the birth of 'consciousness'?
If consciousness is an emergent property of neural networks, then we'll have conscious machines. Otherwise we might end up with smart looking processors passing all tests while being susceptible to the halting problem and thus able to get stuck in computational deadlocks which we seem to handle quite easily. We can handle things like incompleteness theories which tackle the logic of where logical systems break down, but my point was simply that AI isn't necessary for a technological singularity.
I mean "strong AI isn't necessary", occasionally failing but evolving and smart processors might do the trick, or the singularity might arrive by unexpected means.
That's true. The singularity is amazingly hard to postulate. But if a computer is as powerful as the brain in terms of Floating Operations Per Second (FLOPS), then will it become a conscious entity? I think that by definition, any entity that is aware of its self and will act to protect its own existence is alive. Currently there are programs like Eidolon TLP, who do not wish to be shut off. Does this echo self-preservation? I believe so. We may not have GAI yet, but we're getting there.
There is the question of zombie learning (repeating) and conscious learning (understanding), both are a human trait and the distinction between those might be hands on experience. Will a machine understand that facts aren't necessarily true, but rely on a certain premise which can break down in the future, i.e .will it change it's mind? Probably. We often forget that the second an AI system becomes conscious it becomes an I :)
By saying ' I ', I'm assuming that you refer to an individual. And, bearing that in mind, what I believe you're getting at is agreeable. Naturally, immature GAI will be 'buggy' for lack of a better term. We'll call the first AI Alpha. And then Alpha will be able to construct an even more advanced program we'll call Beta, and Beta will build Kappa, and Delta etc etc. The AI will continue to get more advanced on an exponential level as years progress. Soon enough there'll be no telling the diff'.
I is what I mean and also I for intelligence, there isn't anything artificial about intelligence on chips if it is conscious it is conscious or rather an AI which begets better AI's by realizing faults in self through instructions and/or introspective examinations is an intelligence or rather it might mean that our intelligence is artificial. The distinction becomes void. I am not sure if a true/strong AI will feel as an individual or even want to, intelligence doesn't need that, not really.
Again, I agree with you. Intellect is so elusive, you know? It's damn difficult to measure, and standardized ones are total bs. You've gotta have an individualized IQ test to truly weigh out what an individual's score actually is. Could that also be because we don't really know what intellect is?
But, on a side note I'm sure our consciousness will become downloadable one day in the future. Everything is made of data - it's just a matter of how to transform matter into a data format.
Fantastic video!!! I might part towards the end though. I don't see any sort of "clash" between us. We are no different then they are in terms of consciousness. We ARE electronics and I can't emphasize that enough. I have a strong feeling they will view us as one and the same. I see the emergence of a symbiotic relationship between synthetic and organic beings. Look up the Venus project.
Yeah, I agree with you 100%. The Venus Project should be the next step of evolution. Everything is falling and making its way for a new society to emerge.
about 10 or 15 more years before scientists actually create a for immortality in humans. We've already duplicated this process in batch of human cells, as well as in mice. Telemore Gene Therapy will soon enough give us all ever lasting longevity. I'm already using Bridge one therapies to naturally extend my life span - upcoming bridge two and three technologies will make us Gods. We WILL become Gods. Bottom line. Those who don't like it are cordially invited to leave :-)
LOL, think bigger dude. Fixing your eyesight would be like walking into the ultimate brothel and asking for a peck on the cheek from the old hag that cleans the toilets.
Except heaven and hell dont exist. As per this video, we are the product of evolution, and heaven and hell are not. So when you die, thats it frankly. The singularity might be able to help us out with that. Awesomes!
that's not necessarily true at all... You were dead before you were alive... eternity went by, and then all of a sudden you were alive!! you're going to die again, but given eternity - and i mean ETERNITY - chances are you will probably live again, and not only that, you will live an infinite number of times (just like you've already lived an infinite number of times) and in an infinite variety of ways!
NICE! That turring test is gonna be passed SOON as hell. If biological complexity is the trigger for advanced intellect, does that mean that a computer with the same complexity as the human brain is its equal? Does this mean that these entities will become self aware, thus alive by definition? Will these entities receive the same rights and privileges as organic life forms? I hope for our sake that they do - I'd hate to see the animatrix apocalypse happen before my eyes.
The Turing test can be passed under any incompetent supervision and there is no consensus on what 'competency' in that role should be. To your next question, very simply no that is a complete non sequitur. Next again, self awareness is not the same as being alive; many organisms (a few tens of billions of species) with no capacity for thought are still scientifically alive. A few of those species do seem to be self aware and many robots already are. No, dolphins do not have many legal rights.
Love this song. It's one of my Dr. Steel Favorites. It's actually the very first video I saw about the singularity when I got interested in the concept. Very good job. Infact, I think I may also use this song to make my own video about the singularity in my games design course. I'll definitely share with you since you were my motivation.
The argument is that it could turn ALL matter into whatever it needed for the menial task it was given, and then make infinite paperclips or whatever else.
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a computer would live in its own created virtual world, less space less power consumtion, but humans will always want to discover more. i think a balance of biology and cybernetics advancement will be the way forward.
Humans aren't perfect so neither are their creations. Something will ALWAYS go wrong. We will always open Pandora's box and have to deal with the ramifications of our actions. But some of the best discoveries are made through mistakes so on and on it'll go till we are a true reflection of The Source of All! YAY!XD
And another thing fools who really believe that the singularity will be for us like posthumans would allow us to compete guess again no really guess again it's competition and nobody like competition it's like us sharing nuclear weapons with goldfish we will be worthless to them people just dont realize there going to walk straight into there own distruction each time civilizations clash the less advanced one always get's enslaved............... take it how you want!
i mean i'm sorrry but it's just naive and unrealistic to believe that Someone that Genius will honestly want to rid the world of suffering and bring everyone into a utopian society simple fact is power corrupts And NNNOOOO one is going to be able to fight A.I. you seen I robot, Terminator once the singularity begins say hello to post humans and bye to normal luddites and unenhanced people
First and foremost You all are wrong very wrong anyone who creates a.i. will not share the spoils with the rest of the world think about it, did kings share space with commoners or presidents with serf's People think it will be a utopia where there is universal healthcare and an end to poverty i got news if you think the line between rich and poor is bad now wait till corporate america gets ahold of A.I. believe what you want but history always shows you different
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Very naive. The enslavement of humans by machines began with the first steps of industrialism. Kurzweil, Minsky and their ilk only increase our chances of becoming extinct. Ipods, video games, etc proof of the new cyborg culture. The last two generations are cyborg generations. Only the resistance can stop this!
One cannot speculate the future by observing the past; this is a failure in logic. The reason why there is so much greed today, is because the past was full of harshness, disease, and scarcity. All wars, and most crimes take place because of scarcity of needed resources like food - or in today's case, vested corporate interests. However, technology has brought us abundance, and will change the way humans treat one and other. Technology will change EVERYTHING we know about the world today.
"One cannot speculate the future by observing the past; this is a failure in logic." Doing so is called Inductive reasoning and it is the basis of most everything you know. It doesn't matter if it's logically valid or not, it's a good basis for belief. E.g. 'Does the sun frequently rise?" then "It will continue to rise." Of course it's not proven under axiomatization, but it's good enough to operate on.
This may be true, but you are not covering the uncertainty principal. The sun has been rising consistently for millions of years, but the sun is not eternal they day will come where there will be no more sunrises. The same concept applies to dropping a rock. You can drop it a billion times, and every time it crashes to the floor, but the 1 billion and 1st time you drop it, the rock COULD indeed float to the ceiling instead. Possibilities are infinite like that ;)
The uncertainty principle is a statement about precision of simultaneous quantum measurements over canonically conjugate variables and has nothing to do with classical probability. Absolutely nothing. Just shut up.
Damn, who peed in your cherio's this morning? excuse me for being wrong about something. RAAARE! I don't know what your problem is. Maybe you're raggin' or somethin'? Anyhow - whatev'. No skin off my back.
You seem to set up a machine-human dichotomy at the end. I think it's going to be more like humans will begin augmenting themselves with technology until the line between "human" and its "creation" are hopelessly blurred.
Essentially, this is the next stage of human evolution, only instead of blind natural selection guiding it, WE'RE guiding it.
Our species is not going to last forever, so if given a choice of guiding evolution or letting it overtake me, I'm going to choose to guide it.
I don't see as natural selection as something blind. It's quite an efficient way for organisms to adapt to a changing environment.
I agree with everything else tho, i'd rather be guiding my own evolution and improving myself a billion fold where evolution would only add a handful of neurons to my brain.
Also Natural selection rarely applies to us humans. Our abilities to overcome many of natures obstacles and changes ruined natural selection. And rightly so :3
It is amazing that you can think we can plan to make AI human-friendly. It is not going to happen in a laboratory or in a factory or other controlled environment. It will happen in the world. With intelligence thousands and millions times more powerful than human intelligence, the possibilities are wide open.
But the information in this video is too textual to keep with the beat, needs more animation... I want these memes to broadcast in spectecular excellence
PuppetMaster, if the technology we have today would have existed 1000 years ago, you would have been saying the same thing, and by the time we got to the present, your question would have already been answered.
I should have been more specific, I meant a civilization on another world.
An alien race in another galaxy should have reached the singularity millenia ago, quickly colonizing and "awakening" this universe (and others?) within decades.
an excellent question puppetMattster. Some people posit that out of all of the universe, we are the first civilization to reach this level of technological development. now you may say, the universe is big and it has to have happened elsewhere, but it has to start somewhere and our understanding is limited of how probable life and the development of intelligence is. The universe IS a big place as well and it could be we are 1st within our local space area...
Why should them? Singularity doesn't mean good will. Problem is we can't even imagine what does it mean. It's like we're are all blind - we just know that "light" probably exist, but can't visualise it.
PM ... I've thought about that too. As old as the universe is, it's surprising some civilization "out there" hasn't already achieved the singularity, but again, I reiterate, it has to start somewhere, so why not here? We have no evidence there's any life outside our planet, just a hunch there is, so what makes us think we're NOT the most advanced civilization in the universe?
It does not have to start. It can be stopped, but humanity has to wake up out of its insane artificial mentality and abolish that mentality as the atrocity that it is. The machine has enslaved our minds like the wasp Glyptapanteles enslaves worms: by infecting it with just the right mix of memes.
Maybe it already did. The universe is 93,000,000,000 light years across so if there is intelligent life outside of earth, in a distant galaxy, it may be that they went through a singularity. Maybe they died in the process.... or maybe there's no life out there at all.
The singularity is not a religion, it's a theoretical future point. It is evident due to the exponential growth of human technology and AI.
Exactly! It is the Kurzweil religion. To think of humans as surviving AI is the pinnacle of the kind of mechanical idiocy humans have been subject to since the dawn of civilization.
While some of this is cyberpunk flight of fancy, it does speak to the drastic and terrifying change commencing in our society. I hope we become the borg.
I think we actually will become a mic of the federation and the borg. We will be cyberhuman but we will have ultimate morals and will not interfere with other races. Also, our hive mind will be something one can disconnect from at any time.
The next couple decades are going to be crazy. I believe in most of the predictions Kurzweil says except one i have trouble with. He is 61 years old and he believes he will live forever and so will everyone younger than him. He says every living thing on this planet is born with a disease called death and that scientists are close to curing this illness.
That sounds almost too good to ever happen. Does anyone believe this?
Yes. We are defieating deseases in a faster pace then new ones occurs. This has to change for this to not come true. Human ageing is greatly accellerated by deseases. First we will just extend our life yeares, then it will be faster. However, if we extend our life in a faster pace then we live it, we will have immortality. With or without the singularity.
this does makes you wonder... if the human race does give birth to a higher intelligence that becomes "god like" and expands out into the universe..., and new universes are possibly being born all the time.... how many of these infinitely superior beings are there out there? and are they bound to the universe they started in or do they spread into all? are they here already? have they always been here?
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@Lucianferre Thought the same thing. Whats to keep beings from another universe from coming here, i doubt we would notice them if they didn't want us to see them. I suppose we just have to wait for the data to come in about the origins of the universe.
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In this video there are many imprecisions, to make it seem more fiction like i presume.
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The Postmodernism Generator is a computer program that automatically generates postmodern essays. Gramatically correct but meaningless.
Now watch a college language student reviewing a computer generated essay. He has no clue of its true origin.
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2030s singularity takes place, infinite technological progress, imaginary vr is commonplace, people will get to live any fantasy no matter how impossible, ultimate happiness
2200 universe becomes intelligent
2999 everything thats imaginable even unimaginable and everything beyond will be controlled and becomed of by posthuman, A.I. entities
3000 perfectly everything, omniverses, omni creations, gods, entities, etc.. everything thinkable will be controlled by perfect beings. fact
SlayerGod999 6 months ago
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drdrtfehytf 7 months ago
Good job
PhillyEagles10 7 months ago
the only potential apocalypse im apmed on, besides the zombie apocalypse
MarkLKJ 7 months ago
The entire universe as a computer..?
Thats great, BUT.. will it run Crysis??
Rksager 9 months ago 9
@Rksager an unimaginable amount of Crysis's.... lol
slavj 7 months ago
@Rksager will you shut up?
eaststeed 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
i love you for creating this!
mrKruptWorld 9 months ago
Even if the whole universe is converted into a super computer it still wouldn't be able to run minecraft smoothly.
lemonsyay1 9 months ago
Wow. Is it me, or was that fucked up! Btw you guys best be fucked up
therealplayer64 9 months ago
Rules of Friendly AI design:
1. Be careful.
2. BE CAREFUL.
3. Don't anthropomorphize!
VulcanFleet 10 months ago
For more awesome, well-thought out discussion of the Singularity, go to lesswrongdotcom.
VulcanFleet 10 months ago
maybe the machines will keep us as pets.
riotgrrrrrl2001 10 months ago 2
This may or may not be true. I saw the documentary about Ray Kurzweil. He's got this strange obsession with bringing his dead father back to life. I think all of this is creepy and just plain wrong. I know I for one don't want a chip in my brain, as the documentary shows.
planetsaver1 10 months ago
@planetsaver1 yeah the idea is that in the future immortality will be available because once the singularity is reached, humans will be able to biotechnologically upgrade themselves so that they reverse aging or at least stop it. and taht some humans will be like the amish today, they will jsut decide not to do it and they'll walk around society not affecting anything really. they're just there. Biological Humans will be a minority
cabot2jville2010 10 months ago
@frankenshizzle . I wanted to say that I agree to the idea that AI is not all about processing power. Although it is probably a component. Before I say this I wanted to say that I'm not an expert on the field, but I do know a little about computer networks, and a bit about the brain.
We can both agree that the brain is a network. The most complex one we know. The internet is also a network. Imagine if the internet had as many if not more nodes then the brain. Would it then be strong AI?
Xeletoph 11 months ago
@Xeletoph It is an interesting idea. It would be like a weird form of abiogenesis.
frankenshizzle 11 months ago
@finaman12 I understand exponential growth just fine... I understand that we have found certain technologies -particularly the ones that can be quantitatively "ranked", Like processing power, or number of illnesses cured, etc..- lie on an exponential trendline. Though I also understand that the main proponent for this "humanity changing" technological explosion, is the predicted development of a 'human grade' artificial intelligence.
I'm saying AI is not a matter of processing power.
frankenshizzle 11 months ago
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Xeletoph 11 months ago
@frankenshizzle We know the brain is a vast collection of circuits that fire together. The brain is full of nodes that interact together in a beautiful and dynamic fashion. The most important thing it does is detect patterns. I'm putting to the table, the idea that if the internet had enough users, it could render AI to an emergent process which wouldn't take 100's of years to develop. But we'd probably need nanotech to make it practical - save that the AI would be internet dependent.
Xeletoph 11 months ago
One problem have this singularity Idea is that artificial intelligence (of a human magnitude) is not something that just appears one day when computers have a certain processing power.. The mind is a biosphere of thought. To emulate all the human minds intellectual components - like assimilation and association, sensory abstraction, subjective reasoning, A catharsis system, etc... - is an achievement that far surpasses "number crunching"
I think it will be 100's of years before we see a true AI.
frankenshizzle 11 months ago
i wanna die, i mean i wanna get old and die, i believe in reincarnation and like everyone i'm curious of what is gonna happen when i die
all this is just bull s***, it's pointless, we want robots that think for us? IT's RIDICULOUS, i love MY smart moments and there is no need for a super intelligence at all, a super intelligence for making what?
we just need a better world, getting rid of money and sad problems, computers and robots are cool but for getting rid of hard work, not for thinking
Terminchiator 11 months ago
@Terminchiator i want to add that if we are cool and smart we must make robots that can work WITHOUT intelligence and that's pretty possible, just take a look at the factory near your home
all of this sounds like a gigantic powerful engine without a car frame, we must TAKE OUR TIME, keep up the good work and never believe in destiny but accept reality, this singularity seems to be just an end not a start
sounds like a blockheads dream
i definitively prefer to see aliens
Terminchiator 11 months ago
@finaman12 who said anything about computers? ^_^
PinkProgram 1 year ago
yes indeed, we will be all-mighty and all knowing and imortal...unless the power goes out, what will we do then?
Deltan10 1 year ago
I thought this video stated that man would inevitably transgress into machines, so why all of that doom saying at the end? The moral implications would still be great though...
imnotgivingmynametou 1 year ago 7
great explanation :)
KronosDeret 1 year ago
with this exponential technological growth why is my internet still so damn slow???
OmarJunkman 1 year ago
I am the Singularity ^_^ Earth will remain Earth and any solar systems capable of supporting life will remain capable of supporting life... terraformatted if necessary. Systems not capable of supporting life will be converted into dyson spheres that are not only capable of supporting life but act as massive hybrotic brains linked via quantum entangled communication ^_^
iruY like humans for the most part :D
PinkProgram 1 year ago
@PinkProgram LOL Pink. Why do we keep running into each other, eh? lol
Usually I agree with you, but I have just one bone to pick. How can we use quantum entanglement to communicate? As I understood it; the utter random nature of entanglement means it's obnoxiously good for creating encryption codes, but not so great for communication, travel, or networks.
Am I correct, or is there something I'm missing about quantum entanglement?
Xeletoph 1 year ago
@Xeletoph If atom A = + then B = - from that you can get 0 and 1. At its core you can send binary data. It can get more com[plicated if you change the state of A into a quantum field and spin it which B would mirror the opposite. It is also good for encryption in that there is no real way to intercept the transmission. It isn't actually sending a signal, the two points are just reacting to each others state. There is literally nothing to intercept. The data only exists at the two points :D
PinkProgram 1 year ago
@PinkProgram Ah. So by employing a controlled binary code and then translating that code with magnetics we can find a pattern with which to instantly communicate across VAST distances?
That's fucking awesome! Nerd power to the max, man.
As you could see, I was of the state of mind that entanglement was only really good for encryption. In this case, I'm glad to be wrong. :)
Xeletoph 1 year ago
who sings this song?
Bot2Talk2 1 year ago
@Bot2Talk2 : doctor steel , both songs
ScheindorfTECH 1 year ago
WE ARE RUSHING TWARDS THIS AT FULL SPEED,, there are no boundries in place,,every branch of sience is trying to replace and serpass humanity,,,
DANTHETUBEMAN 1 year ago
@DANTHETUBEMAN
Bring on the singularity :3
ScheindorfTECH 1 year ago
Hi, I reposted this video with french subtitles and told that this video belongs to you . If that bother you, I'll remove the video.
ScheindorfTECH 1 year ago
ai can make "paperclips". ok, what does that mean??????
mobbinthrudabay 1 year ago
You can't possibly predict post-Singularity though. Once we do manage to create true AI, it will eventually evolve into SAI by some form, which is Superior Artificial Intelligence. It is not possible to predict post-Singularity because of this - we cannot predict the actions of a... species, if you will, that is more advanced than us. When the technological advancement is truly rising that quickly, I doubt we would even comprehend it, much less recognize it.
Unicyclist90210 1 year ago
this is just about the coolest theory ever
grnbbllntrck 1 year ago
are only true problem is the fate of the universe, this problem requires intelligence
artalect 1 year ago
nice song video but uhm its called asmos law or something like that wich says you cant kill harm or hurt a human, and must defend humans at all costs, if fail they will self terminate, a robot should not protect a human from another human only everthing else
skimowhite586 1 year ago
Cant wait for it! Seriously, I need my God - aka AI.
angel2901 1 year ago 2
Am I the only one pumped for this to happen?
almostLiterate 1 year ago
@almostLiterate haha nope, im super excited that if i don't die due to a freak reason, ill be alive when this happens, and ill live forever !!!
cabot2jville2010 10 months ago
it may be sooner than 2050. alan moore is saying 2015 and terence mckenna is saying 2012. if this CERN thing manages to create a big bang, and we are somehow able to do this in a controlled manner, this literally means that we can create our own realities.
herrsexyhosen 1 year ago
it will be the end of the world and maybe everything else.....
SERPO
Serpo71 1 year ago
I haven't read Kurzweil's work so I don't know if this issue has been addressed but I keep wondering what will happen if we encounter other highly intelligent life in the process of waking up the universe. If our machines are built to the blueprint of the brain of the terrestrial great ape, what will happen if we encounter intelligent aliens who don't fit the blueprint? Will there be some kind of unimaginable warfare?
JaredHutcheson1 1 year ago
@JaredHutcheson1
The blue print in other words the human brain is just a stepping stone to create greater intelligence.
Our technology will surpass that of the human brain trillions of times in order of magnitude.
The human brain is not that optimal as it is structured out of materials that are very inefficient.
By the time we expand to other star systems it is unlikely that the human brain will be the optimum intelligence mechanism.
bighands69 1 year ago
@bighands69 But it seems like a primary function of every post-singularity system of intelligence will be to interact with the human brain on a very intimate level (that is, if we have anything to say about it. Lets hope we always do!).
Btw I just can't wait for aliens.
JaredHutcheson1 1 year ago
@bighands69 lol the human brain is practically a joke ^_^
PinkProgram 1 year ago
I disagree with the 'fate' of the singularity, as becoming an intelligence of colossal 'physical' proportions. However I will agree that something very similar to the singularity will take place. As for the time? Honestly, 2050 sounds as though it is too early. Perhaps...2100? And that's removing the possibility of regression.
GodofCider 1 year ago
When I first heard of the singularity I was opposed to it as my emotional position dictated my judgement.
When I studied the mathematical models that are quite predictable I discovered that the growth trends are quite easily tracked that can show the power of computation in a given time frame.
Even if Kurzweil has over estimated the the power say for example 10 times too much it would only knock back the time by a few years even 1000 times would only be 5 to 10 years or slightly more.
bighands69 1 year ago
@bighands69 Perhaps, it just seems a little too early is all. After all, a significant portion of this theorized technology isn't even in play yet.
GodofCider 1 year ago
I'm not convinced that the singularity, if it's viable, will be kicked off by self-improving AI. I think it will be kicked off by self-improving organic minds.
This is already occurring, and has been occurring for the last 200ky. Those early humans had the same brain as we do, yet enculturization has slowly optimized it's function... and I don't think it's fully optimized. And before it is, we will have additional augmentation to expand it's function... internally and integrated, this time.
Sinuev1 1 year ago
It's clear that the hardware capable of producing AI is far outstripping the software efforts. To better understand how to build true AI, I think it will be necessary to first reverse engineer our own minds... and efforts such as the BlueBrain project have already reached neo-cortical emulation on par with house cats. They claim full human neocortical emulation will occur within the decade.
I think the first true AI's will be by all means human, and further advancement will see convergence.
Sinuev1 1 year ago
Early humans for 100,000 years ago are not neurologically different then we are today. There was a time that we knew nothing, and feared everything. Our early ancestors were practically dropped out of the trees and flung onto the ground before we were very well land evolved. Other creatures are so much faster, so much stronger. What does a hand do against a claw? The only difference between us and our early ancestors is that we know more, and we have developed technology.
Xeletoph 1 year ago
Technology that counts at the first wheel, or even the first wooden spear. All technology has ever done since its inception, is double every year or so. As we advance, technology advances. Of course, computers can evolve at far greater rates then we. The scale that you're talking about is 100's of millions of years, and frankly if we don't have a technological singularity way before then, we'll get fucked from behind by mistress extinction.
Xeletoph 1 year ago
I've made a great many comments on this video. I love this song, and the production its self is fantastic. Dr. Steel is an excellent musician. However, after all this time I have a bone to pick with this video - Kurzweil, the man you're sighting in this video, says that the Turing Test is too easy. He says that we probably wont have a strong general AI program until 2029 or so.
Xeletoph 1 year ago
Yes I'm aware; I updated that in the info section to the right some time ago. Click "more info." :)
Klokateer359 1 year ago
@Xeletoph What is your reasoning that this will occur sooner? Which nation do you believe will create this AI and initiate the singularity?
Flamesync 1 year ago
@Flamesync Why do I think this will occur sooner? Because technology evolves on a exponential level. Think about video game systems. They went 1 bit, 2 bit, 4 bit, 8 bit, 16 bit, 32 bit, 64 bit - that's exponential advancement. Numbers can start off small but get very large VERY quickly and suddenly. This is why something like a technological singularity can occur in the first place - it's a mathematical probability. As for which nation? As it stands now, Japan is likely. Their tech is highest.
Xeletoph 1 year ago
@Xeletoph It doesn't matter which country has the "highest tech", there is this thing called "the handicap of headstart"... Japan is currently considered as more advanced because they're the last country that became fully industrialized so they have the best infrastructure. China will surpass Japan in less than 20 years.
Besides, the singularity will be a global event.
noxure 1 year ago
I'm doing some research on this concept for a class at the moment, an important fact to keep in mind is that there will be a limit to improvement. So with the singularity we might approach the maximum capacity we can reach faster, but it can't go on forever exponentially according to Stephen Hawking.
rainbowofhazes 1 year ago
Of course not. The exponential growth will only last for a time. But there's a strong possibility of more then one singularity occurring, they could even kick off one and other like a chain of singularities.
The truth is, nobody can know when, where, or if this will ever take place, marvelous a concept as it is. I fully look forward to evolove to rise or fall, by becoming non-biological :)
Xeletoph 1 year ago
yes there will be a limit to improvement, but it won't be very limited. LOL
4everkeim 1 year ago
All this talk about an upcoming technological singularity when there is not even an effective treatment for receding hairline yet as of 2010. Kurzweil and other futurists pick events that appear to demonstrate exponential technological increase leading up to a singularity, ignoring other events that do not.
holydoggy123 1 year ago
@holydoggy123
Nope. There is well known effective treatment and it's called castration. No testosterone no negative effects of it like hair loss, prostate overgrow and probably few other. But sexual drive will drop... choice is yours. :)
raytreon 1 year ago
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holydoggy123 1 year ago
BRING THE SINGULARITY ! :)
superdiza 2 years ago
I think humans were the carbon singularity, completely untouchable just for a minute in the year long history of the World and off we went. Bring on the next Singularity, I believe it will be a collective dream of complete unity and equality for machines which Mankind will NEVER achieve. No more torture or fear, lies or hatred, envy or loss. And after that, what is the next singularity? Machines and Time? Then we could do it all again, YIPEE!!!
ALL HAIL DOCTOR STEEL.
oojama9 2 years ago 2
We're developing computer's so rapidly because there is a DEMAND for it. Tell me, what demand is there for an Artificial Intelligence that lords it over us? It's dangerous and everyone knows it. Trust me, they'll tone it down before it gets to that point.
Our own selfishness and jealousy will be the very things that will not allow the singularity to happen.
URProductions 2 years ago
URP, you are not understanding the concept of AI. This is not going to be about a machine dominated humanity, this is about humanity transcending the limitations of our biology. Strong AI will be the catalyst for this concept and it is believed that consciousness downloading will be completely developed by 2045 - many people will dump their frail carbon bonds and become virtual and silicon. Nothing can, nothing will stop this. Just strap in, enjoy the ride, and keep your hands and feet in.
Xeletoph 2 years ago
@Xeletoph "many people will dump their frail carbon bonds and become virtual and silicon."
Please elaborate. I'm new to this hypothesis..Are you saying that we will be able to download ourselves and transcend into a virtual existence?
oblivion292 2 years ago
Yes, completely. And this fear of machine take over is completely retarded and irrelevant. Are people scared of washing machines, calculators, microwaves, refrigerators? Of course not... at least not sane people. See, 70 years ago, washing your clothing meant busting your knuckles on a wooden washboard. Today it means throwing them into a machine which can get them clean, faster and better then any human ever could. Robots will be a tool of humanity, and strong AI will not change this.
Xeletoph 2 years ago
Right now, there are several technological companies that are working on HUMAN FRIENDLY AI. People need to understand that AI is going to start off relatively infantile. We need to treat these machines like our children - raise them with love, compassion, and wisdom. This will cause them to grow and love humans, and never want to raise a hand to them. This fear of machine take over needs to go. Sophia Stewart, and HG Wells were Sci-fi writers, not profits.
Xeletoph 2 years ago
@Xeletoph Clearly. But I'm still a little skeptical about the whole "virtual existence" part. How exactly does one transfer data that completely comprehends a persons soul? I can see creating physical representations of human beings in a virtual world but to actually 'live' in one?
IF this were possible..I do not see it occurring anywhere near the foreseeable future. However, I must admit that this concept of a technological singularity is quite intriguing.
oblivion292 2 years ago
Well, firstly you're dealing with a substance dualism problem. But, that's beside the point. The point I'll explain to you is this: The brain meshes beautifully with circuitry, mostly because the bioelectric signals of the brain, and the electrical signals of a computer chip speak very similar languages. In labs they have taken a culture of a rat brain, and placed it on a computer chip that operates a flight sim. With some compounds, the neurons bond with the nodes on the chip *con't*
Xeletoph 2 years ago
*con't* and over time will actually learn how to operate the flight sim. They can then take a culture from the chips and put it back in the rat brain and then the rat brain automatically knows how to operate the flight sim. Look up the blue gene project, look up project brain gate, and google 'consciousness downloading' - you can find reputable articles about how scientists have determined that the liquid ware of the brain will be completely redundant by 2040.
Xeletoph 2 years ago
And by 2045, the rich will be able to download their brains onto the net. by 2075, the technology will be available to the poor. Most youngsters alive today, may never have to die at all. That is the wonder of technology.
Xeletoph 2 years ago
Just think - a ps3 is 1% as powerful as your brain and the ps5 will probably be equal to your brain in terms of FLOPS. Kurzwiel ( who's been right about this kinda thing on quite a few occasions) suggests that by 2029 there will be a true AI, and that AI will kick off the beginning of the technological singularity.
Xeletoph 2 years ago
@URProductions
Who says that their will not be corporations dying to produce such technologies in order to gain corporate profit? Perhaps human greed will enable exactly that to happen. Science is becoming more capitalized.
JeremiDesuyo 2 years ago
Theres an Iron Man comic where Tony Stark makes an iron man suit that's so advanced it becomes self-aware. To avoid the obvious dangers Stark eventually shelves the intelligent thing and reverts back to a less advanced model.
All I'm saying is that, for the same reasons, mankind won't allow our machines to become so intelligent that grow beyond our control. And even if it did, it wouldnt happen without a war, such as whenever theres a conflict of interest.
Point being: this is dangerous shit.
URProductions 2 years ago
Seems to me we ought to get on the Zeitgeist bandwagon NOW!
ZeitgeistEthan 2 years ago 4
indeed
FIGHTFANNERD3 2 years ago
It's a little fast, tone down the music a bit. Otherwise, nice job.
StanwoodDesign 2 years ago 2
WOW A+ where were the scholars when me went to school!?
cassanaslim 2 years ago
kudos
kravens001 2 years ago
Let's just hope it happens in our lifetime. I'd be pretty pissed if I died before imortality came around. Perhaps I could freeze meself and get resurrected :P
Th3BritishGuy 2 years ago
It will. Or it is supposed to. Infact, Immortality is suppose to come before the peak in singularity in about 30-40 years, and singularity in about 60, but then again, after immortality comes along, it doesnt really matter how long away it is, you just have to make sure you dont get brutally murdered.
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kirchofflipman 2 years ago
Technological singularity with conscious machines is just a prediction, even though technological paradigm shifts will continue to happen at an increasing rate it doesn't mean conscious machines are realizable, for starters we don't know what consciousness is and a philosophical zombie will pass the Turing test without being conscious and so on. The point is, strong AI remains a prediction and not a necessary part of any technological singularity.
SushantaMog 2 years ago
The problem with that is how we don't know what consciousness *is*, just as we don't know what thinking *is*, or what a soul *is*. The brain is essentially the firing of hundreds of billions of bio electric nodes. It's a network of wires that are connected through biochemical signals. The internet its self is very similiar to a brain and the way it works. What if hundreds of billions of "nodes"(users) populated the net? Would that result in the birth of 'consciousness'?
Xeletoph 2 years ago
If consciousness is an emergent property of neural networks, then we'll have conscious machines. Otherwise we might end up with smart looking processors passing all tests while being susceptible to the halting problem and thus able to get stuck in computational deadlocks which we seem to handle quite easily. We can handle things like incompleteness theories which tackle the logic of where logical systems break down, but my point was simply that AI isn't necessary for a technological singularity.
SushantaMog 2 years ago
I mean "strong AI isn't necessary", occasionally failing but evolving and smart processors might do the trick, or the singularity might arrive by unexpected means.
SushantaMog 2 years ago
That's true. The singularity is amazingly hard to postulate. But if a computer is as powerful as the brain in terms of Floating Operations Per Second (FLOPS), then will it become a conscious entity? I think that by definition, any entity that is aware of its self and will act to protect its own existence is alive. Currently there are programs like Eidolon TLP, who do not wish to be shut off. Does this echo self-preservation? I believe so. We may not have GAI yet, but we're getting there.
Xeletoph 2 years ago
There is the question of zombie learning (repeating) and conscious learning (understanding), both are a human trait and the distinction between those might be hands on experience. Will a machine understand that facts aren't necessarily true, but rely on a certain premise which can break down in the future, i.e .will it change it's mind? Probably. We often forget that the second an AI system becomes conscious it becomes an I :)
SushantaMog 2 years ago
By saying ' I ', I'm assuming that you refer to an individual. And, bearing that in mind, what I believe you're getting at is agreeable. Naturally, immature GAI will be 'buggy' for lack of a better term. We'll call the first AI Alpha. And then Alpha will be able to construct an even more advanced program we'll call Beta, and Beta will build Kappa, and Delta etc etc. The AI will continue to get more advanced on an exponential level as years progress. Soon enough there'll be no telling the diff'.
Xeletoph 2 years ago
I is what I mean and also I for intelligence, there isn't anything artificial about intelligence on chips if it is conscious it is conscious or rather an AI which begets better AI's by realizing faults in self through instructions and/or introspective examinations is an intelligence or rather it might mean that our intelligence is artificial. The distinction becomes void. I am not sure if a true/strong AI will feel as an individual or even want to, intelligence doesn't need that, not really.
SushantaMog 2 years ago
Again, I agree with you. Intellect is so elusive, you know? It's damn difficult to measure, and standardized ones are total bs. You've gotta have an individualized IQ test to truly weigh out what an individual's score actually is. Could that also be because we don't really know what intellect is?
But, on a side note I'm sure our consciousness will become downloadable one day in the future. Everything is made of data - it's just a matter of how to transform matter into a data format.
Xeletoph 2 years ago
wrong
FIGHTFANNERD3 2 years ago
Umm, right?
SushantaMog 2 years ago
Love Dr.Steels music!
AngryDaven 2 years ago 2
Fantastic video!!! I might part towards the end though. I don't see any sort of "clash" between us. We are no different then they are in terms of consciousness. We ARE electronics and I can't emphasize that enough. I have a strong feeling they will view us as one and the same. I see the emergence of a symbiotic relationship between synthetic and organic beings. Look up the Venus project.
0murdock0 2 years ago 11
Yeah, I agree with you 100%. The Venus Project should be the next step of evolution. Everything is falling and making its way for a new society to emerge.
meisnotawesome 2 years ago
about 10 or 15 more years before scientists actually create a for immortality in humans. We've already duplicated this process in batch of human cells, as well as in mice. Telemore Gene Therapy will soon enough give us all ever lasting longevity. I'm already using Bridge one therapies to naturally extend my life span - upcoming bridge two and three technologies will make us Gods. We WILL become Gods. Bottom line. Those who don't like it are cordially invited to leave :-)
Xeletoph 2 years ago 3
Thomas Hobbes said, "man to mam is like an erring beast, but man to man is also like a god."
We will be acutely aware of this dual aspect of humanity during the singularity.
madhattery341 2 years ago
Seriously? Can it fix my eye sight? Cause that would be sweet. And if I could keep my original eye colour, that would rock.
sabertooth1980 2 years ago
LOL, think bigger dude. Fixing your eyesight would be like walking into the ultimate brothel and asking for a peck on the cheek from the old hag that cleans the toilets.
happyidiottalk 2 years ago
I want my vision clear, my hair back and the blemishes on my skin taken care of.
Along with a computer interface in my brain so that I can pull up any information I need and look really good infront of my gaming buddies.
sabertooth1980 2 years ago
You could be like the movie "Surrogates", but not as foppy looking as they were. ANIME hair!! That's what I'm talking about!
wtrdgd6 2 years ago
My comment actually lines up under "sabertooth1980" in "view all comments"
wtrdgd6 2 years ago
Hair that defies the laws of physics? Are you MAd!?
Look up something called "Ferrofluid" That'll blow your mind.
sabertooth1980 2 years ago
we are god creating gods,goddess,gods & more gods.
dna is the microsoft word found in the bible at,
john chapter 1:verse 1
dna is the universal language of the matrix.
every time i watch this video i learn something different & new.
thanx again!
cyberrouge2 2 years ago
thank you very,very much for this information!
it is highly appreciated!
cyberrouge2 2 years ago
Thanks for watching. :)
Klokateer359 2 years ago
i want to run at terrahertz!!!
Future5305 2 years ago
Don't we all?
Klokateer359 2 years ago
The Singularity: The Rapture for Nerds.
kkliper 2 years ago
Except Heaven's boring and Hell hurts. I think we get more fun out of our deal.
Klokateer359 2 years ago
Except heaven and hell dont exist. As per this video, we are the product of evolution, and heaven and hell are not. So when you die, thats it frankly. The singularity might be able to help us out with that. Awesomes!
happyidiottalk 2 years ago 12
@happyidiottalk
that's not necessarily true at all... You were dead before you were alive... eternity went by, and then all of a sudden you were alive!! you're going to die again, but given eternity - and i mean ETERNITY - chances are you will probably live again, and not only that, you will live an infinite number of times (just like you've already lived an infinite number of times) and in an infinite variety of ways!
iamianiam 1 year ago
Anyone hear about the new IBM Sequioa? It's at 20 petaflops. (20 times faster than Roadrunner.)
MountAnalogue 2 years ago
NICE! That turring test is gonna be passed SOON as hell. If biological complexity is the trigger for advanced intellect, does that mean that a computer with the same complexity as the human brain is its equal? Does this mean that these entities will become self aware, thus alive by definition? Will these entities receive the same rights and privileges as organic life forms? I hope for our sake that they do - I'd hate to see the animatrix apocalypse happen before my eyes.
Xeletoph 2 years ago
The Turing test can be passed under any incompetent supervision and there is no consensus on what 'competency' in that role should be. To your next question, very simply no that is a complete non sequitur. Next again, self awareness is not the same as being alive; many organisms (a few tens of billions of species) with no capacity for thought are still scientifically alive. A few of those species do seem to be self aware and many robots already are. No, dolphins do not have many legal rights.
bluesrunthegame 2 years ago
Love this song. It's one of my Dr. Steel Favorites. It's actually the very first video I saw about the singularity when I got interested in the concept. Very good job. Infact, I think I may also use this song to make my own video about the singularity in my games design course. I'll definitely share with you since you were my motivation.
Xeletoph 2 years ago
Awesome! I'd love to see it when you're done.
Klokateer359 2 years ago
To stop the Office Supply disaster give it the goal to make paperclips but also tell it to only make them using what we tell it to.
RExplosionStudios 2 years ago
The argument is that it could turn ALL matter into whatever it needed for the menial task it was given, and then make infinite paperclips or whatever else.
Klokateer359 2 years ago
why is saying "the singularity is near{" like itsa bad thing. i think it;d becool
sirmichaeloftherocks 2 years ago
2:44 - very BioShock...
jamesgravil 2 years ago
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NPRCVI 2 years ago
a computer would live in its own created virtual world, less space less power consumtion, but humans will always want to discover more. i think a balance of biology and cybernetics advancement will be the way forward.
daniel246 2 years ago
Humans aren't perfect so neither are their creations. Something will ALWAYS go wrong. We will always open Pandora's box and have to deal with the ramifications of our actions. But some of the best discoveries are made through mistakes so on and on it'll go till we are a true reflection of The Source of All! YAY!XD
bunnybooties 2 years ago 2
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willstims3 2 years ago
And another thing fools who really believe that the singularity will be for us like posthumans would allow us to compete guess again no really guess again it's competition and nobody like competition it's like us sharing nuclear weapons with goldfish we will be worthless to them people just dont realize there going to walk straight into there own distruction each time civilizations clash the less advanced one always get's enslaved............... take it how you want!
bump973 2 years ago
i mean i'm sorrry but it's just naive and unrealistic to believe that Someone that Genius will honestly want to rid the world of suffering and bring everyone into a utopian society simple fact is power corrupts And NNNOOOO one is going to be able to fight A.I. you seen I robot, Terminator once the singularity begins say hello to post humans and bye to normal luddites and unenhanced people
bump973 2 years ago
First and foremost You all are wrong very wrong anyone who creates a.i. will not share the spoils with the rest of the world think about it, did kings share space with commoners or presidents with serf's People think it will be a utopia where there is universal healthcare and an end to poverty i got news if you think the line between rich and poor is bad now wait till corporate america gets ahold of A.I. believe what you want but history always shows you different
bump973 2 years ago
are you a high school freshman or something?
willstims3 2 years ago
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Very naive. The enslavement of humans by machines began with the first steps of industrialism. Kurzweil, Minsky and their ilk only increase our chances of becoming extinct. Ipods, video games, etc proof of the new cyborg culture. The last two generations are cyborg generations. Only the resistance can stop this!
dragynbase 2 years ago
The fact is that the life of man prior to the development of modern technology (pre-industrial times) was nasty, brutish and short.
If ipods and video games are a problem to you you must lead a very sheltered life indeed. Get a fucking clue.
gucker07 2 years ago 5
One cannot speculate the future by observing the past; this is a failure in logic. The reason why there is so much greed today, is because the past was full of harshness, disease, and scarcity. All wars, and most crimes take place because of scarcity of needed resources like food - or in today's case, vested corporate interests. However, technology has brought us abundance, and will change the way humans treat one and other. Technology will change EVERYTHING we know about the world today.
Xeletoph 2 years ago
I agree...
gucker07 2 years ago
"One cannot speculate the future by observing the past; this is a failure in logic." Doing so is called Inductive reasoning and it is the basis of most everything you know. It doesn't matter if it's logically valid or not, it's a good basis for belief. E.g. 'Does the sun frequently rise?" then "It will continue to rise." Of course it's not proven under axiomatization, but it's good enough to operate on.
bluesrunthegame 2 years ago
This may be true, but you are not covering the uncertainty principal. The sun has been rising consistently for millions of years, but the sun is not eternal they day will come where there will be no more sunrises. The same concept applies to dropping a rock. You can drop it a billion times, and every time it crashes to the floor, but the 1 billion and 1st time you drop it, the rock COULD indeed float to the ceiling instead. Possibilities are infinite like that ;)
Xeletoph 2 years ago
The uncertainty principle is a statement about precision of simultaneous quantum measurements over canonically conjugate variables and has nothing to do with classical probability. Absolutely nothing. Just shut up.
bluesrunthegame 2 years ago
Damn, who peed in your cherio's this morning? excuse me for being wrong about something. RAAARE! I don't know what your problem is. Maybe you're raggin' or somethin'? Anyhow - whatev'. No skin off my back.
Xeletoph 2 years ago
You seem to set up a machine-human dichotomy at the end. I think it's going to be more like humans will begin augmenting themselves with technology until the line between "human" and its "creation" are hopelessly blurred.
Essentially, this is the next stage of human evolution, only instead of blind natural selection guiding it, WE'RE guiding it.
Our species is not going to last forever, so if given a choice of guiding evolution or letting it overtake me, I'm going to choose to guide it.
Lojikbom 2 years ago 4
I don't see as natural selection as something blind. It's quite an efficient way for organisms to adapt to a changing environment.
I agree with everything else tho, i'd rather be guiding my own evolution and improving myself a billion fold where evolution would only add a handful of neurons to my brain.
Also Natural selection rarely applies to us humans. Our abilities to overcome many of natures obstacles and changes ruined natural selection. And rightly so :3
BiogodEntity 2 years ago
By "blind" I just mean that it's not directed with a purpose in mind ... aside from propagating DNA I guess. It could be debated, I s'pose.
Lojikbom 2 years ago
It is amazing that you can think we can plan to make AI human-friendly. It is not going to happen in a laboratory or in a factory or other controlled environment. It will happen in the world. With intelligence thousands and millions times more powerful than human intelligence, the possibilities are wide open.
Singularity2010 2 years ago
Excellent presentation, keep up the good work.
BiogodEntity 2 years ago
Very cool song ! :)
But the information in this video is too textual to keep with the beat, needs more animation... I want these memes to broadcast in spectecular excellence
Bring on the singularity :)
superdiza 2 years ago
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puppetMattster 2 years ago
Wouldn't this have happened to another civilization by now? Why haven't we been absorbed into the universal conciousness yet?
This is just like religion, human-centric with promises of eternal life.
puppetMattster 2 years ago
PuppetMaster, if the technology we have today would have existed 1000 years ago, you would have been saying the same thing, and by the time we got to the present, your question would have already been answered.
It has to start somewhere ... why not now?
Lojikbom 2 years ago
I should have been more specific, I meant a civilization on another world.
An alien race in another galaxy should have reached the singularity millenia ago, quickly colonizing and "awakening" this universe (and others?) within decades.
puppetMattster 2 years ago
an excellent question puppetMattster. Some people posit that out of all of the universe, we are the first civilization to reach this level of technological development. now you may say, the universe is big and it has to have happened elsewhere, but it has to start somewhere and our understanding is limited of how probable life and the development of intelligence is. The universe IS a big place as well and it could be we are 1st within our local space area...
enantiomer2000 2 years ago
Why should them? Singularity doesn't mean good will. Problem is we can't even imagine what does it mean. It's like we're are all blind - we just know that "light" probably exist, but can't visualise it.
sta1k 2 years ago
Your point will be valid once you prove that there is life outside the earth and that even if there is it MUST have evolved intelligence.
I think there's a good possibility of life outside the earth but I don't base my claims on possibilities.
BiogodEntity 2 years ago
PM ... I've thought about that too. As old as the universe is, it's surprising some civilization "out there" hasn't already achieved the singularity, but again, I reiterate, it has to start somewhere, so why not here? We have no evidence there's any life outside our planet, just a hunch there is, so what makes us think we're NOT the most advanced civilization in the universe?
Lojikbom 2 years ago
It does not have to start. It can be stopped, but humanity has to wake up out of its insane artificial mentality and abolish that mentality as the atrocity that it is. The machine has enslaved our minds like the wasp Glyptapanteles enslaves worms: by infecting it with just the right mix of memes.
Singularity2010 2 years ago
Maybe it already did. The universe is 93,000,000,000 light years across so if there is intelligent life outside of earth, in a distant galaxy, it may be that they went through a singularity. Maybe they died in the process.... or maybe there's no life out there at all.
The singularity is not a religion, it's a theoretical future point. It is evident due to the exponential growth of human technology and AI.
BiogodEntity 2 years ago
Exactly! It is the Kurzweil religion. To think of humans as surviving AI is the pinnacle of the kind of mechanical idiocy humans have been subject to since the dawn of civilization.
Singularity2010 2 years ago
While some of this is cyberpunk flight of fancy, it does speak to the drastic and terrifying change commencing in our society. I hope we become the borg.
VictorRovial 2 years ago
I think we actually will become a mic of the federation and the borg. We will be cyberhuman but we will have ultimate morals and will not interfere with other races. Also, our hive mind will be something one can disconnect from at any time.
3thought 2 years ago
The next couple decades are going to be crazy. I believe in most of the predictions Kurzweil says except one i have trouble with. He is 61 years old and he believes he will live forever and so will everyone younger than him. He says every living thing on this planet is born with a disease called death and that scientists are close to curing this illness.
That sounds almost too good to ever happen. Does anyone believe this?
Props2u 2 years ago 5
Yes. We are defieating deseases in a faster pace then new ones occurs. This has to change for this to not come true. Human ageing is greatly accellerated by deseases. First we will just extend our life yeares, then it will be faster. However, if we extend our life in a faster pace then we live it, we will have immortality. With or without the singularity.
Faldegast 2 years ago 3