exelente mae geri rapido y potente una de las tcanicas mas poderosas del karate la potencia es comparable al golpe de un ariete sobre una puerta el golpe consentra toda su energia en el metatarso del pie y permite maxima concentracion de potencia e un solo punto
That's not a knock out. That's what you call a "slip". and he was kicked on the chest and lost balance. As people can see, the guy that was kicked down landed on his ass and his hands and was still conscious. Did he slowly lose his consciousness after he was kicked down or something?
I still see MMA as more realistic but Muay Thai is pretty hardcore, no doubt. I guess we can agree to disagree. My friend does Kudo and it's great too, the rules are similar to MMA plus elbows to the face and headbutts. And it's still reasonably safe thanks to the helmet that they wear. Check it out. The best part though is that they still retain the traditional budo spirit so Kudo is like a hardcore TMA with solid roots and realistic sparring.
...Xvs1 is practiced is in very rare dojos, under heavy protection because it can quickly be very dangerous. I had some "spars" like that (not in my main dojo, was invited to another place to do it), my first thought was: wow, 8 years MA, and 3 guys can take me out that easily if they work together :(
Wish i could apply karate's first theory in those cases :s
Strikes to a grounded opponent are allowed in every MMA org and Japanese orgs allow soccer kicks and stomps too so MMA does have less restrictions than Muay Thai.
IMHO 1 vs many is well taught in legit Krav Maga schools, where the objective is always to escape rather than win. Same with knife and gun defence. The first thing they will show you in KM is that you can never win against a knife or gunman. Disarming is only taught in the military where they are prepared to kill and die in a fight.
I knew that about the stomp and down strikes. i just wanted to make clear that in MT headbutts are aloowed, as are elbow strikes, even behind the head (which is not in MMA). For KM i don't any school in my surrounding so i cannot attend them :(
For knife defense i had lessons and same, most of the lessons show that 7/10 you get hit by the knife, so it's better to find a way to get out. Never anything against a gun, because if the gunman ...
First of all, MT and kickboxing use BOXING GLOVES - this influences the guard and fighting tactics. MMA uses 4 oz gloves which cannot be used for covering the face and protect only the hand of the attacker, not the face of the opponent.
Second, MT has MORE restrictions than MMA and a variable point system for different kinds of strikes.
Third, takedown defence is especially important when a bunch of thugs want to hurt you. If you fall down, you die.
These arguments are all valid, except for the one of MT restric. > MMA restric. Except hitting an oponent on the floor or kick to the groin (which isn't allowed in MMA either) they are pretty much free. I speak trictly about MT like it is practiced in thailand, no thaiboxing. The only mma's which could be counted toward streetfight in my eyes, are the first ufcs (for the most known) bare knuckles, ko or submission stoppage only. But it's comes still to 1vs1, sadly hte only place where...
...you can also add takedown defense to that, is valid, that alone doesn't make mma-fighters more prepared to the street. most of streetfights i have seen didn't go to the ground and involved more than one oponent. To your statement about rules and protection: they wear gloves, groin prot. and mouthpiece, same in thai and kickboxing, take off the gloves and you have contact karate protections mouthpiece is not mandatory.
rules: well they don't have least rules, they allow more,.... (2/3)
...mma gloves, heavy groin protection and torso protection, then you'll start aiming your elbows at places you'll never see on sport event, like the throat or your oponents arms or legs that will attack.
I never said grappling is good for street fighting and your insults don't suddenly make you right about anything. And speaking of rules and protection, I don't know if you've noticed but MMA has the least rules and protection in any combat sports.
The sad truth is that MMA fighters are better prepared for a street fight than most Karate people. At least they know how to ESCAPE the ground and not get pounded out by thugs.
PS. Don't even reply from your high horse, there's no convicing you.
"But it is undoubtedly the nearest thing to real fight and it is a lot more realistic than any other combat sport" are your words i believe.
Mine are that it's not. In my eyes a thai- or kickboxer is better prepared than the average mma fighter and/or most traditionnal martial arts practicant because they are used to strike to get a result (like mma-fighter yes, but unlike laters, that's their main speciality). Still your point about escaping a ground and pound is valid, ... (1/2)
I've been using this kick a lot recently, but to keep my opponents in my kicking range. Every now and then though, I catch them just right and I knock them down or wind them, and I don't use full force. Very effective kick and practical.
Thats because first, you cant use real karate in UFC theres to many rules, and second no one in UFC actually knows karate, they just learn like 3 months of karate and then go fight, iv never seen anyone in UFC know any martial art except maby little jujutsu, the rest is just like boxing and every once and a while a round house kick to the leg, thats not karate...
That "MMA = real fighting" way of thinking that have lots of stupid 2000 generation idiot kids is making me really get tired... haaaa... So boring and nonsense. Practice something seriously before write stupidities in the internet "capullos".
Be close to something, and be the same thing are two different things.
I wrote those kids thinks that "MMA = real fighting". I can tell lots of facts that makes MMA not a real fight. It's close, but not the same thing. That's my point of view.
Your point of view is valid and nowhere have I stated that MMA = real fighting. But it is undoubtedly the nearest thing to real fight and it is a lot more realistic than any other combat sport. Even though MMA has spawned a lot of idiots it has also given us food for thought in terms of efficiency and predictability of fighting one on one. Like it or not, MMA is a proving ground for fighters and martial arts techniques.
It's just like everything. You choose what to pick or what to learn from it, and what to throw away. It's just ignore those lots of idiots and learn from true martial artists that are fighting in those MMA events.
MMa is the closest sport to real fighting on smooth ground with a referee that will stop it if it gets ugly and as long as it is one on one. I'm a karateka too, but i think before i state something -_-
If you think you can go to ground fighting on the street against 2 or more guys, please, you have my vote on the darwin awards.
Try your regular training with plexi helms+throat protection, ... (1/2)
facil en tu dojo, lo ke estas aprendiendo es karate tradicional, solo ke se enfoca al deporte cuando vas a competir con las reglas y de mas cosas pero cuando la vida deportiva se termina lo ke keda es el karate, tambien puedes hacer lo ke yo hice enfocar el entrenamiento a la forma tradicional, me explico si haces un kata no pienses en hacerlo de x forma para ganar puntos sino en hacerlo de x forma para desarrollar mas tu fuerza, yo te deceo lo mejor y entrena muy duro y fuerte OSS
The correct word is "que", but there are some stupid kids nowdays who use that nonsense mobile phones abbreviations even if they're using a computer keyboard. I hate that indeed, because that's no more than laziness.
exelente mae geri rapido y potente una de las tcanicas mas poderosas del karate la potencia es comparable al golpe de un ariete sobre una puerta el golpe consentra toda su energia en el metatarso del pie y permite maxima concentracion de potencia e un solo punto
andres36844 3 months ago
wasn't even a knockdown, that's a slip as the top commenter said.
ubersum1 6 months ago
all you guys realized that the title is "knockdown" not "knockout"?
MrPCJunky 7 months ago
thats one hell of a kick lOL
musicXpiano 10 months ago
knockout or not. it was funny x3
kyopandafox 11 months ago
that was knock down not K.O.
Forestill 11 months ago
That was incredibly lame.
sk317r 1 year ago
Hehe... ;)
LOVINMUSIC370 1 year ago
so it was a liver kick?
monkfg 1 year ago
wow awesome ! this guy is very reactive, i would like to be like him =P !!
hitmax3131 1 year ago
wow really powerfull ... nice take down
TheMrDuerni 1 year ago
Wasn't a KO, but nice!
RomeoSOF2 1 year ago 3
knock down not a knock out
joealtair3000 1 year ago 11
Mmm, looks like a knock DOWN, different than a K.O.
WarriorBoy 1 year ago
nice form
Dovemagician 2 years ago
That's not a knock out. That's what you call a "slip". and he was kicked on the chest and lost balance. As people can see, the guy that was kicked down landed on his ass and his hands and was still conscious. Did he slowly lose his consciousness after he was kicked down or something?
cruelgrotequeblood 2 years ago 15
@cruelgrotequeblood But the title doesn't say knock out, it says knock down.
iloveasiangirls 4 months ago
@iloveasiangirls Maybe the owner changed the title? It's like 2 years ago so I don't remember though.
cruelgrotequeblood 4 months ago
@cruelgrotequeblood Well, you could be right. I only saw this recently.
iloveasiangirls 4 months ago
...is not stupid (aka i stand against you and try to push you with the gun) you're dead either way.
Kind regards
laokon 2 years ago
I still see MMA as more realistic but Muay Thai is pretty hardcore, no doubt. I guess we can agree to disagree. My friend does Kudo and it's great too, the rules are similar to MMA plus elbows to the face and headbutts. And it's still reasonably safe thanks to the helmet that they wear. Check it out. The best part though is that they still retain the traditional budo spirit so Kudo is like a hardcore TMA with solid roots and realistic sparring.
I'm off now, thanks for the chat and good luck!
Hotora86 2 years ago
is Kudo the complete name? i googled it but didn't find anything :x
On my side i like shidokan because of their fight system and pankido.
I like how you turned it: wen cas agree to disagree :))
Thanks too and good luck to you too ^^
kind regards
laokon 2 years ago
Kudo is the new name, the old one is Karate Daido Juku. I have a playlist about Kudo, check it out (and my other playlists too). ;)
Hotora86 2 years ago
Thanks :)
laokon 2 years ago
...Xvs1 is practiced is in very rare dojos, under heavy protection because it can quickly be very dangerous. I had some "spars" like that (not in my main dojo, was invited to another place to do it), my first thought was: wow, 8 years MA, and 3 guys can take me out that easily if they work together :(
Wish i could apply karate's first theory in those cases :s
Kind regards
laokon 2 years ago
Strikes to a grounded opponent are allowed in every MMA org and Japanese orgs allow soccer kicks and stomps too so MMA does have less restrictions than Muay Thai.
IMHO 1 vs many is well taught in legit Krav Maga schools, where the objective is always to escape rather than win. Same with knife and gun defence. The first thing they will show you in KM is that you can never win against a knife or gunman. Disarming is only taught in the military where they are prepared to kill and die in a fight.
Hotora86 2 years ago
I knew that about the stomp and down strikes. i just wanted to make clear that in MT headbutts are aloowed, as are elbow strikes, even behind the head (which is not in MMA). For KM i don't any school in my surrounding so i cannot attend them :(
For knife defense i had lessons and same, most of the lessons show that 7/10 you get hit by the knife, so it's better to find a way to get out. Never anything against a gun, because if the gunman ...
laokon 2 years ago
They allow headbutts in muay thai, since when? I thought they only allowed headbutts in Lethwei.
KoreAHNO 2 years ago
...(we could argue that this is a choice of words) but strictly speaking, in muaythai you have less restrictions.
Last, if i ofended you in any way, i'd like to appologize to you.
Kind regards
laokon 2 years ago
Appology accepted. Let's discuss this again.
First of all, MT and kickboxing use BOXING GLOVES - this influences the guard and fighting tactics. MMA uses 4 oz gloves which cannot be used for covering the face and protect only the hand of the attacker, not the face of the opponent.
Second, MT has MORE restrictions than MMA and a variable point system for different kinds of strikes.
Third, takedown defence is especially important when a bunch of thugs want to hurt you. If you fall down, you die.
Hotora86 2 years ago
These arguments are all valid, except for the one of MT restric. > MMA restric. Except hitting an oponent on the floor or kick to the groin (which isn't allowed in MMA either) they are pretty much free. I speak trictly about MT like it is practiced in thailand, no thaiboxing. The only mma's which could be counted toward streetfight in my eyes, are the first ufcs (for the most known) bare knuckles, ko or submission stoppage only. But it's comes still to 1vs1, sadly hte only place where...
laokon 2 years ago
...you can also add takedown defense to that, is valid, that alone doesn't make mma-fighters more prepared to the street. most of streetfights i have seen didn't go to the ground and involved more than one oponent. To your statement about rules and protection: they wear gloves, groin prot. and mouthpiece, same in thai and kickboxing, take off the gloves and you have contact karate protections mouthpiece is not mandatory.
rules: well they don't have least rules, they allow more,.... (2/3)
laokon 2 years ago
...mma gloves, heavy groin protection and torso protection, then you'll start aiming your elbows at places you'll never see on sport event, like the throat or your oponents arms or legs that will attack.
It always depends on how you train.
Kind regards
(2/2)
laokon 2 years ago
I never said grappling is good for street fighting and your insults don't suddenly make you right about anything. And speaking of rules and protection, I don't know if you've noticed but MMA has the least rules and protection in any combat sports.
The sad truth is that MMA fighters are better prepared for a street fight than most Karate people. At least they know how to ESCAPE the ground and not get pounded out by thugs.
PS. Don't even reply from your high horse, there's no convicing you.
Hotora86 2 years ago
"But it is undoubtedly the nearest thing to real fight and it is a lot more realistic than any other combat sport" are your words i believe.
Mine are that it's not. In my eyes a thai- or kickboxer is better prepared than the average mma fighter and/or most traditionnal martial arts practicant because they are used to strike to get a result (like mma-fighter yes, but unlike laters, that's their main speciality). Still your point about escaping a ground and pound is valid, ... (1/2)
laokon 2 years ago
that was a good kick, clearly the other dudes feet were not planted on the ground for balance.
kiwikarateguy 2 years ago
that isnt a knock out, this is not a fight.
8poseur8 2 years ago
Not bad
TexanVamp94 2 years ago
I've been using this kick a lot recently, but to keep my opponents in my kicking range. Every now and then though, I catch them just right and I knock them down or wind them, and I don't use full force. Very effective kick and practical.
KerosAohco 3 years ago
I think you're right. The "mae-geri" is a very under rated kick, but very useful if you know how to perform and use it well.
chavalote 2 years ago
I agree. It's used quite a bit a Muay Thai as well. I think they call it the Kick Jab.
KerosAohco 2 years ago
there was no k.o anywhere just a strong, chudan-geri
astralkarate 3 years ago
Knockout?
varkonyimihaly 3 years ago
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too bad karate sucks and karate guys get their ass whooped in ufc.
minaung1 3 years ago
Thats because first, you cant use real karate in UFC theres to many rules, and second no one in UFC actually knows karate, they just learn like 3 months of karate and then go fight, iv never seen anyone in UFC know any martial art except maby little jujutsu, the rest is just like boxing and every once and a while a round house kick to the leg, thats not karate...
JudoGirl20 3 years ago
Karate guys in the UFC:
Harold Howard - sent Gracie out of UFC3
Bas Rutten - former UFC HW champion
Guy Mezger - former UFC LHW champion
George St. Pierre - current UFC WW champion
Lyoto Machida - future UFC LHW champion
...you were saying?
Hotora86 3 years ago
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Harold Howard- 2 wins 3 losses
Bas Rutten- Lost to Ken Shamrock Lmao
Guy Mezger- Loss to Nogueira, Lidell,Ortiz.. etc
GSP- Trained in Karate early on but uses jiu jitsu, wrestling
Lyota Machida- "Golf Clap"
So what were you saying you dumb bitch? Why dont you shut the fuck up faggot instead of getting a boner over some sushi kicks u faggot.
minaung1 3 years ago
You were wrong and now you're covering it by insulting me.
Nice going, loser.
Hotora86 3 years ago
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Yea ignore my rebuttal you idiot.
minaung1 3 years ago
Rebuttal? Rebuttal??
Man, you're making a fool outta yourself.
Mezger, Rutten - these people are former CHAMPIONS, dude, CHAMPIONS and you just pick a few losses and say they suck???
It's just mind-stalling. No comments.
And BTW, Lyoto Machida will soon be champion without ANY losses. But I'm sure you'll make up an excuse for that.
Hotora86 3 years ago 3
lol you showed him XD
Josh420sk8er 3 years ago
Hell yeah. That's why he STFU.
BTW, check out the "MMA Karate" playlist on my channel - it's a list of successful Karate people in MMA. :)
Hotora86 3 years ago
That "MMA = real fighting" way of thinking that have lots of stupid 2000 generation idiot kids is making me really get tired... haaaa... So boring and nonsense. Practice something seriously before write stupidities in the internet "capullos".
chavalote 2 years ago
MMA is the closest sport to real fighting ever. I'm a Karate guy myself but I cannot deny it.
Hotora86 2 years ago
Be close to something, and be the same thing are two different things.
I wrote those kids thinks that "MMA = real fighting". I can tell lots of facts that makes MMA not a real fight. It's close, but not the same thing. That's my point of view.
chavalote 2 years ago
Your point of view is valid and nowhere have I stated that MMA = real fighting. But it is undoubtedly the nearest thing to real fight and it is a lot more realistic than any other combat sport. Even though MMA has spawned a lot of idiots it has also given us food for thought in terms of efficiency and predictability of fighting one on one. Like it or not, MMA is a proving ground for fighters and martial arts techniques.
Hotora86 2 years ago
Yeah, that is it.
It's just like everything. You choose what to pick or what to learn from it, and what to throw away. It's just ignore those lots of idiots and learn from true martial artists that are fighting in those MMA events.
chavalote 2 years ago
MMa is the closest sport to real fighting on smooth ground with a referee that will stop it if it gets ugly and as long as it is one on one. I'm a karateka too, but i think before i state something -_-
If you think you can go to ground fighting on the street against 2 or more guys, please, you have my vote on the darwin awards.
Try your regular training with plexi helms+throat protection, ... (1/2)
laokon 2 years ago
nicely timed! like sensei always says eh, when it comes to kicking, whoever gets the knee up first wins eh.. nice! osu
AZNKC 3 years ago
good kick i got up too brown belt two stripes before i quit.
but your just an exellent kicker :-)
tiempo678 3 years ago
nice
Firemonkey1024 4 years ago
karate tradiconal lo mejor de lo mejor xd
yo practico karate pero deportivo soy sinta verde me gutaria saber donde hay una escuela de karate tradicional
ivanmartell66 4 years ago
facil en tu dojo, lo ke estas aprendiendo es karate tradicional, solo ke se enfoca al deporte cuando vas a competir con las reglas y de mas cosas pero cuando la vida deportiva se termina lo ke keda es el karate, tambien puedes hacer lo ke yo hice enfocar el entrenamiento a la forma tradicional, me explico si haces un kata no pienses en hacerlo de x forma para ganar puntos sino en hacerlo de x forma para desarrollar mas tu fuerza, yo te deceo lo mejor y entrena muy duro y fuerte OSS
feher75 3 years ago
Aren't you supposed to write "que" instead of "ke" is Spanish?
hYdratatiOn 2 years ago
The correct word is "que", but there are some stupid kids nowdays who use that nonsense mobile phones abbreviations even if they're using a computer keyboard. I hate that indeed, because that's no more than laziness.
chavalote 2 years ago
Cool :D
BajoZer0 4 years ago
0.0 dat kick hitted hard
DaZZer02193 4 years ago