@MrFantastic742 Hah, hah. Yes, Windoze is rather hard on hardware platforms, but the server main board is what clapped out, not my install of (ack, thpth) Win2K Server. I do have some other P3 hardware running Ubuntu 10.10, but that's not on a RAID.
Sadly, the only mobo with a working RAID controller no longer wants to install properly. I am now running without a RAID anywhere on my lab network, a position that make me very nervous. Thank God for writable DVDs.
@MrFantastic742 Oh, please. Please do relieve this filthy blasphemer of that clapped-out, twelve-year-old design, dual PIII. Do you want some 20GB PATA drives to go with it? How about a 3 1/2" ridgie drive? And a rollerball mouse or two? Actually, I think the roller mice are all gone (along with the 300W power supplies), but I still have some PS/2 keyboards if you want one.
How does a "backup system place" protect my data in a manner superior to that of a RAID? My data has to be stored someplace, and I choose to put it in a safe-by-design storage facility. It so happens that facility is online and immediately available on my server. Best of everything.
OK, I'll go with you with on that, but lets say you have a lighting storm right. And then lets say you ups and and whatever else you have goes. Then what? No DATA that's what. What I would do is I would have a another sever backing this sever up running say Windows home server and then every so often make an image of your server and then back some your data up on DVD or hell even blu-rays. Windows home sever does full+inc+dif I think, but you get the point.
Oh, okay. We are talking about two completely different things. I am talking about online data reliability, while you are talking about offline data backup and storage. Backing up to CDs or DVDs has nothing to do with online data reliability. I do offline disk backups, too -- just like everybody else.
My concern is having data that is available right now and knowing that the data is safe and reliable. The only way to do that is with a RAID. Does that make sense?
This comment stuff hasn't worked out too well, eh?
My personal site just has useless waste about me on it. My business site has stuff about my consulting business, plus tests of my clients' and my partners' web applications on it. For instance, if a client asks for a database app on his site I'll test it out on Parsec first.
I also have a site for the rocket club, but the club pays for the hosting and such. I maintain it.
Not really, It was a joyless chuckle of irony, since the only mobo I have ever bought expressly as a server went down to some stupid CMOS problem seven or so years later. As I mentioned in the updated annotation, though, all is cool because I now have new boxes all around. More workstations than I really need, and more compute power than I can shake a stick at.
no i didnt......lolllll thanks for pointing it out....i just got done building a small server its nothing special yet but i plan on upgrading it to the fullest dual p3 1000mhz and 2 gb ram on tyan thunder le-t mobo ill have some vids of it up on my page if you wanna watch and i will post more as the upgrades continue........
Man, what is up with these comments on YT? I have tried to answer this one like four times and the comment response never shows up.
Anyway, you can run a server on almost any hardware. Your best bet is to determine your hardware and software budget up front, then shop for the equipment that fits.
Windows Server 2008 will cost you about $1500 for a 5-user license. Linux is free. Hardware is about $1000 for a decent box with a good RAID. Your mileage may vary.
Actually, I used a separate RAID controller on my old Supermicro, and the results were less than fabulous. Adaptec is no longer on my preferred vendor list.
Now I have some newer stuff that does have built-in RAID, so I'm back in business. The P5B is now a WinXP workstation.
@MrFantastic742 Hah, hah. Yes, Windoze is rather hard on hardware platforms, but the server main board is what clapped out, not my install of (ack, thpth) Win2K Server. I do have some other P3 hardware running Ubuntu 10.10, but that's not on a RAID.
Sadly, the only mobo with a working RAID controller no longer wants to install properly. I am now running without a RAID anywhere on my lab network, a position that make me very nervous. Thank God for writable DVDs.
SomeUselessGeek 1 year ago
@MrFantastic742 Oh, please. Please do relieve this filthy blasphemer of that clapped-out, twelve-year-old design, dual PIII. Do you want some 20GB PATA drives to go with it? How about a 3 1/2" ridgie drive? And a rollerball mouse or two? Actually, I think the roller mice are all gone (along with the 300W power supplies), but I still have some PS/2 keyboards if you want one.
SomeUselessGeek 1 year ago
HA having a raid array does not protect your data dude. What you need to have is a backup system place.
chucknorris687 2 years ago
How does a "backup system place" protect my data in a manner superior to that of a RAID? My data has to be stored someplace, and I choose to put it in a safe-by-design storage facility. It so happens that facility is online and immediately available on my server. Best of everything.
SomeUselessGeek 2 years ago
OK, I'll go with you with on that, but lets say you have a lighting storm right. And then lets say you ups and and whatever else you have goes. Then what? No DATA that's what. What I would do is I would have a another sever backing this sever up running say Windows home server and then every so often make an image of your server and then back some your data up on DVD or hell even blu-rays. Windows home sever does full+inc+dif I think, but you get the point.
chucknorris687 2 years ago
Oh, okay. We are talking about two completely different things. I am talking about online data reliability, while you are talking about offline data backup and storage. Backing up to CDs or DVDs has nothing to do with online data reliability. I do offline disk backups, too -- just like everybody else.
My concern is having data that is available right now and knowing that the data is safe and reliable. The only way to do that is with a RAID. Does that make sense?
SomeUselessGeek 2 years ago
I agree but what kinda of Raid Array are we taking about 1 or 5 ?
chucknorris687 2 years ago
1 plus 0, also known as 10. It's a 2 by 2, with striping and mirroring.
SomeUselessGeek 2 years ago
What type of website do you host?
Voudim 3 years ago
This comment stuff hasn't worked out too well, eh?
My personal site just has useless waste about me on it. My business site has stuff about my consulting business, plus tests of my clients' and my partners' web applications on it. For instance, if a client asks for a database app on his site I'll test it out on Parsec first.
I also have a site for the rocket club, but the club pays for the hosting and such. I maintain it.
SomeUselessGeek 3 years ago
Wow that laugh came out of know where lol
Voudim 3 years ago
Not really, It was a joyless chuckle of irony, since the only mobo I have ever bought expressly as a server went down to some stupid CMOS problem seven or so years later. As I mentioned in the updated annotation, though, all is cool because I now have new boxes all around. More workstations than I really need, and more compute power than I can shake a stick at.
SomeUselessGeek 3 years ago
you can add a raid card....smarty pants.
toytunergt 3 years ago
You didn't bother looking at the comment about the Adaptec above, didja?
SomeUselessGeek 3 years ago
no i didnt......lolllll thanks for pointing it out....i just got done building a small server its nothing special yet but i plan on upgrading it to the fullest dual p3 1000mhz and 2 gb ram on tyan thunder le-t mobo ill have some vids of it up on my page if you wanna watch and i will post more as the upgrades continue........
toytunergt 3 years ago
I have 2 questions:
can you run widows server on any pc or do you need a specific machine??
same question for lunix server?
and can i run linux server and get connect to it by using pc runnings windows?
80amnesia 3 years ago
Man, what is up with these comments on YT? I have tried to answer this one like four times and the comment response never shows up.
Anyway, you can run a server on almost any hardware. Your best bet is to determine your hardware and software budget up front, then shop for the equipment that fits.
Windows Server 2008 will cost you about $1500 for a 5-user license. Linux is free. Hardware is about $1000 for a decent box with a good RAID. Your mileage may vary.
SomeUselessGeek 3 years ago
i dont get it?... just buy a raid controller...
thfmadmax 3 years ago
Actually, I used a separate RAID controller on my old Supermicro, and the results were less than fabulous. Adaptec is no longer on my preferred vendor list.
Now I have some newer stuff that does have built-in RAID, so I'm back in business. The P5B is now a WinXP workstation.
SomeUselessGeek 3 years ago
Tis the season to build servers!
Fa la la la la la la la la
OhCurt 4 years ago
Believe me, I wasn't singing. Although a few choice words did escape my lips...don't tell Lisa.
MartySchrader 4 years ago