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  • How Obama won 2008. Will the Democrats use this in 2012?

  • I work for an elections office and this is in no way possible, from county to county and every election there is a new security encryption created so even if i took one of my cards and took it to another counties machine or a machine from last election, it would say the card is invalid.

  • The RINO's supporting reid did not help .......this is the reason for the tea party ......we are tired of both political machines ....

  • This makes me feel so much better!

    Is there no anti-viral software or at least SOMETHING to indicate tampering?

  • If you need AV software on your voting machines, you're doing it wrong.

  • And then you get an Obama

  • No,the way to Steal an Election is to ID all the other fellas voters & have their votes disqualified & thats excatly what is being attempted,like some third world country.

  • nice video, thanks.

    I also wonder: do these machines have network access or even WLan ?

  • or headphones

  • afaik they do have network access.

  • People in here talking about sore losers is pathetic. Who cares who wins? Its about legitamcy or the apearance of it. Maybe if it was your favorite sports team getting robbed. you might care.

  • New Hampshire primary 2008 and 2004 for dummies: Obama's role explained, or How can Hillary Clinton win with 5 pct of the votes?

    For the 1000th time: EVERYTHING has been explained long ago!

    The magic: voting machines + the candidate who is supposed to lose.

    Reminder: Obama and Ron Paul role is to confirm that illuminati media polls are legit and voting machines count Clinton's votes correctly, no matter what

    Google:

    MattMarriott end-times-computers

  • Don't think that this doesn't happen. It does every f'ing election. I guarantee.

  • @sanmarcos2552 Funny how Diebold was evil during Bush era but then became okay when used to elect Obama. 

  • If I loaned you $100 asking you to pay 5% interest, and I am the only source of legal tender in the country, where is the $5 interest payment going to come from? The only way to satisfy me for now is if you borrow more money! Then you're in debt more later on. This is how the Federal Reserve works, and why the national debt is $9 trillion. See Google Videos "Money as Debt" and "Fiat Empire".

  • PRO THRID PARTY! Are you making you voice heard?

    "The vote of the ignorant doesn't make a difference in America."

  • this is really old there was something like on HBO

  • Wouldn't lock and screws be sealed with lacquer seal? Anyone trying to open it would damage the seal then.

  • People are such sore losers.

  • No, it's not about "sore losers" it's about Democracy, rule of law & the Constitution but instead it's now about a fascist dictatorship- habeas corpus & posse comitatus ELIMINATED, Bill of Rights ELIMINATED and 750 signing statements. What a good little Brown Shirt you are rdangelo- will get get a black shit is my question to you...

  • You may be the next "sore" loser... Then you might want a paper trail to prove the vote....

  • sigh still on this stollen ellection crap

  • THANKS!

  • President Bush just called, he says you're hired.

  • the best way would be a recipt with a 16 digit number on the bottom. you could use the number to log online and see your vote yea or nea, and see how it adds to the totals, without anyone knowing your '5029365394835248'. Your personal vote is kept secret, and the entire citizenry can see the entire vote database and add it up themselves if they wish.

  • I have heard diebold argue that it is nearly impossible to have a 'networked vote' with recipts for voters. Funny that. worldwide ATM'S do it all the time.

  • wow! This goes on WTFMatrix.com!

  • ...all you do is:

    1) Get the application, fill it out. Ignore the confusing 'witness' section. It's for the board of elections to sign.

    2) Mail the application back to the office by early next week.

    3) They mail you a ballot. You mail it back.

    That's it. And you KNOW it is not done electronically to be manipulated.

    "What if they don't count my absentee?" Well, people, you run the same risk as someone not counting your pre-electronic ballot also. DO NOT USE THESE MACHINES!

  • PEOPLE ! ABSENTEE BALLOT! Do NOT USE These machines ever. There is still PLENTY of time to request your absentee ballot. Call your local office, or go to it's website. It's so darn easy. [contin'd]

  • great info!!!! good job! I agree electronic voting systems can be rigged!!! unfortunately this info is too much to understand for some I mean come on! they believe that bush is doing a great job! or that he won??? they also probably believe in santa clause too!!! anyway spread the word around and inform people good job!!!!

  • thanks for the info! I agree electronic voting systems can be rigged!!! but unfortunately this info is toooo much to comprehend for some I mean come on! we expect them to understand this when they believe that bush won??? and they probably believe in santa claus too! anyway great info and spread the word! have a great day/night

  • So the bottom line is that Democrats could have stolen the election if they had got to a few more machines? Got it. Thanks.

  • sure they could have stolen it if they knew of the correct virus to write, which would require them to be in bed with the voting machine companies.

  • And you are now begging the question. These liberal braniacs did it....are you saying they are in bed with Diebold?

  • touche....regardless, it's still well known that the republicans have a lot of influence with these companies.

    And on what basis do you label these braniacs liberal?

    Just because they exposed how much of a peice of garbage these machines are after Bush "won"?

    Now you're begging the question, had Kerry won and they did the same thing, what's to stop them from being labelled right wing?

    It doesn't matter who fuckin wins, if these machines are in service, the election is worthless.

  • We use optical machines here which seem to work fine. I never saw the point of the touch-screen machines anyway. Still, any election can be rigged if someone is willing to do it. Heck, if it weren't for ballot box stuffing we might never have had Lyndon Johnson inflicted on us.

  • huh??? you're saying they compromised the ballot box in johnson's landslide election?

    don't get me wrong, that guy was a total slimeball...but I don't understand what you're getting at.

    And how do the optical machines work?

  • No. Johnson's first run for Congress. There is a picture of him and his party pals out in the boonies posing with a ballot box. It was a race for the House and like many House districts it didn't take that many votes to steal it.

    The optical machines use a paper ballot which is then fed into the machine which counts the votes AND stores the paper ballot.

  • Use ABSENTEE ONLY!

    1) Get the application, fill it out. Ignore the confusing 'witness' section. It's for the board of elections to sign.

    2) Mail the application back to the office by early next week.

    3) They mail you a ballot. You mail it back.

    That's it. And you KNOW it is not done electronically to be manipulated.

    "What if they don't count my absentee?" Well, people, you run the same risk as someone not counting your pre-electronic ballot also. DO NOT USE THESE MACHINES!

  • As a software developer, I will NEVER recommend electronic voting systems. That basically puts whatever is left of our democracy is the hands and control of a few - the software developers, and those who control the developers - not to mention security flaws, exploits and viruses.

    I know what is possible... and too much is possible.

    We must stick with ballots, which must be counted on site and reported to a public registry for everyone to see and tally...

  • Software is invisible to the naked eye. Therefore ALL voting machines are insecure. Manual voting is the only secure way. Then votes can be counted by humans and recorded on video.

    The video recordings could be made available on the web. By including a pothook together with your vote, you could see when you vote was counted.

  • Hey Whiskyrunner, Bush is too dumb to plan it, but he did benefit from it.

  • Whiskyrunner needs to sober up.

  • well done george. well done.

  • We'd be better off with two boxes and a sack of different-colored weighted checkers. At the end of the election, weigh the boxes, heaviest box wins.

  • utahcountvotes.*/Diebold-Princ­eton-response.php

    and

    utahcountvotes.*/Diebold-Princ­eton-response-DougJones.php

    Replace the stars with org

  • "I" still believe this is BULLSHIT! Believe it if you want, I don't!

  • lol this isn't even about bush or kerry lol.. this is about our democracy being turned into a dictatorship... hence our democracy is being turned more and more into a sociological simulation of something that once was, and the more this happens, the more we become conditioned and accept this as our life..nobody is crying except you lol

  • So basically the electronic voting machines are not currently the flawless things we all hoped for but are insted just as open to tampering as all of out paper based ballots. Manufactures just need to only allow importing of clear text from Memory Cards, and implement a few more precautions.

  • This is absolute Bu!!shit! I guess G.W.Bush is responsible for this too?

  • no actually, this is the machine responsible for bush..otherwise he'd have lost twice.

  • It looks like this software could be loaded before the machines were sent to voting places. If that is the case, it could be done on a State level. Which states used these machines and how many were used in each state?

  • i would care if it mattered who actually won elections. all politicians are crooks. i know this because god told me.

  • Damn. Fort Knox it is not.

  • back in my day, leaders were appointed by God directly and I don't remember anyone complaining.

    /s

  • watching the video, it's pretty apparent how a paper receipt would make it easy for the public to detect and correct fraut. why are there no paper receipts on these machines??

  • A printed reciept is as easily changed through software code as is the numbers displayed on the monitor. It is all the same.

  • dylbro, I don't understand your point.

    after a receipt is printed, the voter can verify its accuracy. if the voter can keep a copy, it would seem to be difficult to tamper with this printed receipt kept by a voter using software code.

  • The point is that it prints the receipt to the voter but the receipt doesn't say the total votes on the machine. Just verifies it. But inside the machine the number of votes change. When they print the final count... it is already hacked and after the report is printed, the hack program deletes itself! It's that simple!

  • Also, it's easy to put a virus into the machine which would then affect multiple other machines. watch the video.

  • Why does label1877 assume these methods couldn't be employed on a state level? If the Secretary of State, who is running the election, also happens to be the chairman of that states partisan election committee (Ohio much?) it doesn't sound like it would be too difficult at all.

  • I thought it was a joke that you used voting machines... In Sweden we still use pen and paper.

  • If you can, please vote "Absentee".

    When enough people are doing this, the Boards of Elections across will get the message. We want voting methods we can trust.

  • Sure one could sway a close local election with these methods,but no way could this be pulled off on a regionial or state level.

  • Wrong, to win national and regional elections it often only requires the manipulation of a few counties or areas.

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