Rep. Steve King: "All Americans Have Health Care, Every Single One"

[Dejra]

mr. king is fearful lier...I should know he comes from my 5th district.

[bronzlex]

"forced charity" is the wrong way to look at it. the rich buy your elected REPS to pass laws that favor only them. im not afraid to compete !!! why are they? as a small bussiness owner, i can tell you i do more for less than my competition and im still getting smoked. there is no free-market.!! the corporations have bought their place. the next time some pimply-teen blows you off ... ask yourself why i spent my money here!!!! the game is rigged. same with Health-Care.... rigged!!!!!

[QuasiEvilScott]

Oh, labels, arnt they fun? They take all that necessary thinking and scrutinizing out of the process, making quick judgments out of preconceptions easy and fun!

It's too bad that even then, should these things be sacrificed, they'd still not add up to enough to pay for a family of four's insurance bill for one month. Oh well, better luck next prejudice.

-Qes

[CommonSenseJoe]

He is making the point that this is not about healthcare. This is about taking over health insurance so that THEY control money. They need it because they cannot sustain Medicare/Medicaid.

[DillonX]

I was a contributor & strong supporter & delegate to the state convention for Ron Paul.

If we'd elected him we'd already be out of Iraq.

The only difference I have with him is that I do strongly support Universal Health Care.

[gordy212121]

Supporting Ron Paul and Universal Health Care is an oxymoron.

Its like saying "I'm a libertarian socialist"

[QuasiEvilScott]

I was hoping that this was a counter-argument to the idiocy on the right.

After all - he's not wrong...everyone does have healthcare... for the uninsured it's in the ER - where it's exponentially more expensive than universal healthcare would be.

So - basically, we want 100% coverage for all Americans, so they DONT have to use the damn ER in 8-12 hour lines that cost the taxpayers billions.

Where the hell is the fiscal responsibility?

Healthcare for all.

-Qes

[canisdormit]

Hmm, democrats supporting fiscal responsibility? So, I guess we should bailout the healthcare system like we did with the banks? Gee, that was a great idea, and also super fiscal, lol!

Maybe next we can just drop bags of currency from helicopters on metropolitan areas around the county.

[gordy212121]

I think people who are uninsured who use the ER should bear a little bit more of the burden, they took the risk of not having health insurance. There are plenty of responsible people who cut back on other things to buy insurance.

I think this country needs a little more rugged individualism and personal responsibility.

[bronzlex]

id be with you Gordy if all were equal. laws have been stacked to favor the wealthy. its like spotting someone 20 points before you start a game. you must understand this.

[QuasiEvilScott]

@gordy212121

Um, insurince is incredibly expensive - especially for "high risk" households - for which the working poor are classified in insurance standards. I'm not sure what you think they should give up? That extra car? The internet?

Or are you suggesting they skip meals and/or rent?  The people who use the ER instead of actual medical prevention are not just the college students looking for work - they're the life-long poor and working classes.

Bare more of the burden? Wow.

-Qes

[bj07bran7]

I guess in Georgia, 85%=100%.

How are people this stupid and still get elected? Whats going on

[maddog4it]

He is saying we all have health care by the fact that if you are hurt in accident of some sort or anything else, you can go to the emergency room, and they CAN NOT turn you away. All Americans may not have health insurance, but they have some form of health care even if it comes down to the ER.

[bronzlex]

ER= emergency room... broken leg, the flu or an infected wound will work. however, try going to the ER for cancer or diabetes... you're missing the point of the debate, buddy.

[bj07bran7]

45,000 americans die each year because lack of health care

explain. According to you, no one gets kicked out of hospitals, no one gets turn down because they cant afford a certain treatment

The statement that ALL americans have health care is false

[maddog4it]

The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act states that hospitals or emergency personal can not turn people down in need of emergency help. Meaning that if someone is in need of help, they can get it regardless if they have insurance or not. This law is abused countless times by citizens that use it to receive health care whether or not they need it.

Also, anyone can receive healthcare from hospitals, they will just end up running up a bill by not having insurance. So that's where-cont.

[maddog4it]

So that's where capitalism comes in to say that if you worked for the money you earned, you deserve to have health insurance to pay for your health care you received. It is against the capitalistic system that our country was founded on to change that. If you do not work for the money to receive health insurance, why should you be entitled to it? That is not the U.S. way.

[bronzlex]

ill extend to you the same offer as the apparent coward "SMF"... feel free to contact me on my site. i would love to discuss this in detail with you... you have several misconceptions about the current Health-Care system and the US form of government(or "way" as you put it).

[bj07bran7]

Thats a rather monstrous thing to say. You have effectively killed millions of Americans in theory.

Your lack of logic is frightening. This is why people shouldn't listen to Limbaugh and Beck everyday. This kind of rhetoric is dangerous.

"Some people fall through the cracks" is your philosophy as well as many on the right wing.

Glad I'm a libertarian.

[maddog4it]

Yeah, well you're not going to continue the general welfare of people by promoting the continuous failures of people time after time. Survival of the fittest in the long run will benefit social welfare of people rather than saving people who will fail in the future. But in your world, it is better to save the failed today and screw everyone later by having the lesser portion of a population 'saved' by these ludicrous healthcare plans that are only extending the inevitable.

[maddog4it]

Do you wonder how the U.S. got so great in the first place? It is not from helping the poor man stay alive, but by letting the successful man flourish. Why stop now? Why punish the successful man with meaningless taxes that are only hurting the social welfare of people only to extend the inevitable that these people will continue to fail? That is not the American way that made this country great.

[bj07bran7]

I will leave you with one quote:

"I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me"

-Jesus Christ

[maddog4it]

Ah, such a misleading quote to bring into politics. You can live by this quote and still be right-winged. There is nothing wrong with helping people out, BY THEIR OWN DECISION. Nobody should be forced to help others out if they do not feel it is necessary.

This quote actually supports my point more, because if someone helps a weaker man by choice, then they are a better person than someone who is forced to do it. So Jesus would praise someone who did it by choice more.

[alsdjflaksjghalklaks]

Quotes are theoretical and is practically useless in reality. I can give you quotes from Karl Marx's book, Adolf Hitler's Mien Kempf, and some writings from Bin Laden that may perfectly justify everything they have done (for Marx, idea of stateless society).

[bronzlex]

"do you wonder how" ... that is an ideolgical belief and not a factual statement. the creation of the middle-class is what brought about the largest ecomonic boom the world has ever known. more people having more money too spend. get it?

[maddog4it]

I understand that. For that reason and others, I am against the health care reform because we are adding more taxes onto the American people and we are taxing the wealthy more heavily, which will in turn lead to less consumer spending. I think you misunderstood my point, and are actually agreeing with me.

[bronzlex]

for the third time, maddog, feel free to contact me personally. we agree with the end but not the means. im am saying that "trickle down" or "voodoo" economics is a scam. the monies shot upwards get horded. the bulk of the country is left to beg for a living. the money at the top 4% percent needs to be unlocked. they are ill-gotten gains anyway. we can then compete fairly for those dollars and support our families in an honest fashion.

[maddog4it]

The third time? You really need to understand how these comment responses work on youtube.

Besides that, you are just making ludicrous assumptions that the money is ill-gotten. Regardless, it's their money, and it is violating rights to treat them unfairly concerning taxes because of it. People should not be punished for having money in our society, it is wrong and unjust. We are not a socialist nation and it would be unfair to discriminate against the rich.

[bronzlex]

for the fourth time !!! please, understand that they ARE ill-gotten gains. giving a bribe to a Lawmaker to pass a law that benefits only yourself is dishonest. if you cant see that i dont know what to say... Obama is not a Marxist. !!! for the past 35 years the money in the system has shuffled up to the the top 4to2% and has been frozen there. MOMandPOP stores were forced to close because of this. livelyhoods have been shattered and great people are forced to work for cheesey outlets!!!!

[maddog4it]

It's called capitalism, stores are going to compete, and some stores are going to turn bottom up because of it. It's nothing new.

You are making these insane claims that the money the rich have was all ill-gotten. That is just a pathetic scare tactic to try and convince people that the whole 'robin hood' scheme is justified by making the rich sound evil. It's their money, and who are you to say what happens to it?

[bronzlex]

i assume you are American and must know the game of Football. lets say i win the first qrt. and recieve 100,000 dollars. i then go to the REF and offer him 75,000 dollars to call every penalty, from here on out, in my favor. this is as best as i can explain the reality of whats been going on. you are so naive !!! i used to be you. then i started my own business. try it !!! you will be in for a very rude awakening!!!

[maddog4it]

You are offering no proof of this besides your claim. And I'm getting the impression that you are trying to pin your failures on the government instead of owning up to your actions. Maybe, it was YOUR fault that your business is not doing well, and maybe you made some poor business decisions that resulted in your business going under. I know it is not impossible to make a business because my roommate just started a plumbing business last year and it is going fantastic for him.

[bronzlex]

im no failure\ bro and my business is alive and well. again, for the 6th time i would love to speak to you personally. i promise that i will not bite you! i WILL offer proof. its kinda hard with the 400 charater count in these comment boxes.

[bronzlex]

at least your roommate has some balls! do you live your life through him? he seems kinda cool. what have you done?

[Dejra]

is your roomate plumber Joe, who doesn't pay his taxes?

[bronzlex]

P.S. the REF is Congress.

[owchywawa]

If you support government getting involved in healthcare, you are not a libertarian.

[alsdjflaksjghalklaks]

"It is against the capitalistic system that our country was founded on.." WHAT??? Are you freaking high or just incredibly misinformed?? America was founded on Constitutional Republic not capitalism. Capitalism IS NOT a government system. Capitalism is a ECONOMIC system that is put into place by the industry.

[alsdjflaksjghalklaks]

Steve King is a representative from Iowa not Georgia. He merely stated "As a gentleman from Georgia". Get your facts straight.

[allenrw3]

that's what i've been saying.

[MononofuBlood]

Rep. King is so disingenuous that media matters doesn't even have to add commentary of any kind. Awesome.

[allenrw3]

"every single american has health care" would be 100%. not 85%. idiot.

[ssjsolidsnake]

I don't care what context that was in, that was a straight up lie. This country, I swear.

[AKofFAiTH]

Hmm. I wonder if this will cover a root canal. :\

[freewebjunk]

There's a lot of angry people here. It's easy to get angry guys, but it's much harder to actually engage in meaningful respectful dialogue.

[youbestbequiet]

Which they do!  It's called an ER! Dimwitted libturds can't even get their own party in Congress to support the bill. Thank God it will never pass the Senate

[bronzlex]

you can can get treated for cancer in the ER??? NOPE ... oh by the way unpaid ER bills are paid for by your taxes. consistant and accurate info in right-wing arguements are non-existant.

[youbestbequiet]

Actually yes, the "public" hospital will treat cancer! Private won't without insurance but that's why I', glad I have insurance. Too bad all the suckers who get forced into a govt plan will watch public hospitals be overcrowded while those of u who can afford to keep higher priced private healthcare get even better treatment than now. Wait till you see the gap between the haves and have nots then. I won't lose any sleep, you wanted it, you get to have it lmao Suckers!

[bronzlex]

im sorry "youbestbequiet" but you will be in for a very rude awakening. may you never have to put that false statement of yours to the test. i swear, i would prefer you to live that lie than have to attempt to put it into practice. ive been around the Health-Care industry my whole life and you are absolutely mistaken.... no matter what you have heard.

[youbestbequiet]

I's sorry you're sorry because I have as well. 19 years working in a Hospital and an aunt who is Dr. We agree to disagree. Your state laws must be awful because Florida will not send anyone out that is in need of care no matter what it is. Insured or not, our state works fine without any Federal garbage.

[bronzlex]

must have been a candy-stripper for those 19yrs. son. i am from Florida too(oopps). if you do not qualify for Medi-Care (ie. extremely poor). the county-hospital, not "public" as this term is not used in Florida, will take all your assets. if you survive you will live out the rest of your life on the streets. FACT!!!! ...100,000's of people are forced into poverty every year by the current system. again FACT!!! for the life of me i cant figure out what you people are really trying to do!

[SMFApples]

You are so funny. It's like facts don't even matter to you. Do you write fiction books?

[bronzlex]

please feel free to rattle some(facts) off SMFApples. i would love to address them for you. unlike you however, i will be able to site sources for mine and it wont be some blow-hard on the radio or a sweet talkin suite on the TV. ... bring it on!!!!

[SMFApples]

Let me give you a business perspective. You must think that the insurance premiums and deductibles are high now. If the government, a body that NEVER runs out of money and NEVER needs to keep budget, creates it's own heathcare absolutely no company in the world can compete. Companies will skyrocket costs because the government will be handing out free healthcare.

[bronzlex]

as a small-bussiness owner i dont really need to be schooled by you. again, you are lacking in facts. the Swiss for example, have both a public option and a very robust "private" Health Insurance Industry. it will only take a few hours out of your day to do some research. .. before you start calling people "sheep" you should first start thinking for yourself !!!!!!!

[SMFApples]

So apparently you are a small business owner and a healthcare genius... Anyways, here's another lesson, the Swiss aren't in two wars and are happy. This is the direct problem. People here want too much from their government, other people. We expect to get a lot out of businesses and other places thus leading to ridiculous laws and high crime rates. These things lead to more expectation and the cycle continues. We need to stop this big gov't shit and stay on track by ourselves.

[bronzlex]

who the FUCK are you and will you ever deal with the issue on the table?!!!!! high crime rates? stop big gov. ? crime rates in Europe, across the board, are ridiculously lower than they are here. i dont know why exactly ... so im not even gonna speak to it. the subject is US Health-Care !!! mid-class, hard working people forced into poverty is ok so long as the gov dosent grow ... your main point right?

[bronzlex]

the only reason im kickng your ass up and down the comment board is because you are too much of a coward to state the real reason for your opposition. man up bro !! ... and tell your fellow right-wingers to do the same. you guys are making fools of yourselves with this kind of attitude!!!!

[SMFApples]

Yeah with all your "logic" and "good points" you are "schooling" my ass. I hope you understand that people are finally waking up to see Obama for the sham he really is, and you need to get some sense knocked into your head and wake the fuck up.

[bronzlex]

not so fast SMF... i see Obama as Bush-lite. Obama, just as Clinton before him will continue to support large corporations over the small-businessman and thus doom the the real economic engine of this counrty. Bush and Regan came fast and hard but the Dems only seem to slow the process down. they are one and the same in my eyes. my father worked 5 days and 40 hours a week in the 1970's and took care of a family of 4. where the Hell did those days go?????

[SMFApples]

So did my father. The cause is the growth of business. My mom and dad have had to work to keep up our family and ever since my dad passed, it has been very tight on our finances. That's besides the point, growth of the business sector is not a bad thing but unfortunately people get left in the dust when they don't change with it. Better and more education would help solve this problem.

[bronzlex]

to reley on monolithic corporations that are running the Government is no differant than to reley on Government itself for a living. we as a people must be allowed to compete fairly for resources. every Law passed must be applicable to all. you cant have one set of rules here and a differant set of rules there. you and i must have a differant idea of what freedom is. to me freedom is freedom. to you, it seems freedom is slavery.

[SMFApples]

Yes crime rates in Europe are lower because the people aren't bitches that want everything handed to them in life. The people in our country need to grow some balls and make a living. There is always going to be poverty, hunger, and sickness. There is always a low man on the totem pole.

[bronzlex]

SMF- in Europe the Government is afraid of the people. here its the other way around. "love it or leave it" !! our elected REPs are bought and corupted by Cororations before they cast their 1rst vote. there are low men on the totem-pole in Canada and Europe at large. however, you never see them with a cup in their hand begging for mercy!!! if the system dosent work for all- it just doesnt work!!!!!

[SMFApples]

There is no such thing as a perfect system. Not everyone can be cared for and brought up with a silver spoon in their mouth. The only perfect system is the idea of communism, but it only works in theory and not in real life. So are you suggesting that anyone who fails should commit suicide like it Japan. With strict ideas of personal gain and worth, people who fail rarely come back, and sometimes they commit suicide.

[bronzlex]

i certainly dont think communism is a perfect system, not even on paper. what im telling you is, the laws have been tailored to benefit a few small group of people. the ratio of corporate to consumer lobbiests is 3to1. the laws to be fair in order for people to compete honorably and monopoly laws(already on the books) need to be enforced. that's all

[bronzlex]

if you had ideas of your own and a will to make them real you wouldnt be so submissive. i guess to the talentless being a corporate slave is freedom. you should think long and hard about whom you choose to serve. THINK !!!!

[lorndarken]

85 % lulz

[RuflessRecords]

it's true, Republican King is right, we even treat illegal scum that come to the emergency rooms. We do need reform though to make things more competitive like car insurance is, no govt insurance plan involved....

[bigdogsdontbark]

MediaMatters is the dogshit of the media

[bigdogsdontbark]

Rep. King hit the hammer on the head. Thi guy is a true American Patriot and Obama and Pelosi are scumbags

[joes805]

MORON

[americanhero0967]

its called medicare medicade and welfare

with that every person has health care

i might be better off it i didnt have to pay a copay

like a welfare patient that goes into rehab

[metalhawj]

dude is funny

[bru3]

Yes, but he is distinguishing that being insured is NOT the same thing as "having access" to healthcare. Those remaining 15% uninsured DO have access - they just have to pay for it out of pocket instead of through a middleman.

[timmni]

lol i love the sub-sentence "and 85% are insured"... and he doesnt get that exactly those missing 15% is the major problem here

[bru3]

The representative is exactly right.

All Americans have access to healthcare just as all Americans have access to food. You take your wallet into any corner store and purchase what you need.

The vote for passage of "Health Care Reform" last night was shameful. "Free" healthcare is NOT A RIGHT - and "free" healthcare does NOT equal "access" to healthcare - in fact it severely limits it.

We will all suffer if this bill is signed into law.

[alsdjflaksjghalklaks]

"All Americans have access to healthcare"... Yes and the 18,000 Americans who die because they are denied medical service because they do not have healthcare is...? You are basing your facts off complete bullshit.

[hobdelan]

Hahahahah!!! what a joke!! Tell us another one, senator...

[7jerryv7]

Wow, what an idiot.

[NsaneNtheNbrane]

lol, I guess I'm not an American, then. (I don't have an R next to my name, so of course I'm not a 'real' American)

[NsaneNtheNbrane]

Rep. King was making an argument that has been made several times before, that if you go to the ER, you get treated even if you don't have insurance, so it's as if everyone has access to some form of healthcare and the people who pay insurance end up paying for those who don't. This, of course, is a bull argument, as ER patients only get minimal healthcare and usually a substantial debt. Basically, Rep. King is saying, "there really isn't a healthcare problem. Everything is fine."

[timmni]

ER only takes care of patients who are at risk of life or stuff like a broken arm. but prevential care like a ct-scan or test for cancer, etc. is totally not included and you have to pay for yourself!!!

good comment btw

[kevin120857]

Taxes is the admission price for civilization. Americans want everything for literally nothing. Try being a citizen before proclaiming patriotism. Without it, there is no civilization, no lasting America - nothing to defend. When you're a billionaire you don't need a country. You are a country. If you don't have your billion yet, try being part of something larger than just yourself.

[alsdjflaksjghalklaks]

"when you're a billionaire you don't need a country"... yes and he/she will protect himself/herself...how? Btw you cannot be a billionaire without a country' monetary system and your argument fails.

[pboisei]

Seriously?

[jumpnjza2]

He's obviously not a math major.

[cckabab]

"YOU LIE!"

[oiuoiu988]

wow, doesnt this guy know that health care doesnt even matter anymore....

INSURANCE IS WHAT SAVES LIVES, NOT HEALTH CARE.

[JHolmes17]

Steve King: in the words of Dick Cheney: "Go fuck yourself!"

[HowTheWorldWorks]

Okay, what he said is a fact.

[Eastmanarium]

All Americans have access to emergency care. That's not the same as saying all Americans have health care, which reduces the need for emergency care.

Then again, I'm talking to the infamously misleading HowTheWorldWorks.

[sca719]

you're a complete moron.

[oiuoiu988]

all canadians have access to waiting lists and people tell you that means they have access to health care and you believe it like a lemming.

[Eastmanarium]

And you believe the waiting list idea like a lemming.

I can't see what's so horrible about allowing some people to have access to healthcare who would not have it otherwise at the risk of being on a list that will still inevitably give them care and avoid even more expensive emergency care.

[oiuoiu988]

because the COST of socialized health care is more than just money.

[KataVideo]

we have waiting lists in America. and death panels run by unaccountable corporations. canada works much better. france is even better than canada and I hear that norway is even better than france. london is the world's financial capital, not new york. china makes everything. germany lays closer to the north pole and yet generates much more solar power.

because of bushpig 2001-2009 and the gop congress 1995-2007, America simply is not number one in anything except denial.

[oiuoiu988]

then why is america #1 in life expectancy after being diagnosed with a potentially deadly disease?

you will learn, as most already have, that obama is just bush part 2. have fun with that.

the reason you think france and norway is so great is because your looking at it through a flawed understanding of economics. economics is, at best, a 3rd rate application for mathematics. the costs of socialized medicine show up in waiting lists and shortages but YOUR economics cant account for that.

[guy0307]

Your statement is incorrect. The United States is very close to last (amongst developed countries), not first.

[oiuoiu988]

no its not, the u.s. is #37 in LIFE EXPECTANCY, if you take accidental deaths and murders out(from all countries statistics) the u.s. is #1 in the world.

did you watch that micheal moore movie and decide youre an expert now? my statement was factual. not incorrect at all genius.

[alsdjflaksjghalklaks]

You say that "if you take accidental deaths and murders out.... U.S. is #1 in the world"... claim it to be a fact and yet provide no proof for it. Therefore, your argument is full of fail.

[oiuoiu988]

all you have to do is look at the numbers yourself. its actually a widely known fact, it comes up in debates about health care in foreign parliaments all the time, the reason you havent heard it is because the democrats only tell the lemmings statistics that help the cause of increasing the size and scope of government. youre actually the only person dumb enough to deny this as i have made this comment on a lot of youtube videos.

[alsdjflaksjghalklaks]

"all you have to do is look at the numbers yourself" really? Go find me it.

[guy0307]

First of all, the U.S. is 38th, Cuba is 37th (sad that a developing country is higher than one of the richest countries in the world..)

Let's get to some facts.

Cancer mortality rate in the U.S. (males) is 160.5. In Canada it is 148. Roughly the same with females.

Where did you get your numbers from?

And even if it is correct, all people deserve health care, even if they haven't got a penny. Single-payer is a must.

[oiuoiu988]

i know this is odd for you to hear in a youtube comment,but im gonna look into your numbers sometime tonight and get back to you,if i forget,do me a favor and just reply to one of my comments with some smart ass comment about why i didnt reply.

kinda weird how the cuban gov't is on the verge of letting private ins. companies handle health care instead of socialized medicine.germany too. weird. i would welcome single payer because it would bankrupt the government quickly(the kucinich principle)

[Vitaminous]

Everyone deserves everything no matter the cost, amirite? Doesn't matter how much they value it, or how much time they wait, as long as we do our best to keep that promise!

...Wait where have I heard this before?

[TheRamenAvenger]

@Vitaminous Maybe you heard yourself saying it when you were setting up a ridiculous straw-man argument against yourself?

That's OK, Americans are going to get health care reform and there's nothing you or any of your little corporate shill ass-jockeys can do about it. Ta ta! :)

[Vitaminous]

I'm so corporate, that I live in Canada and make 9.75 an hour.

Yes, you heard me, Canada. You know, that place that gets "universal" (bullshit) coverage?

[TheRamenAvenger]

Oh good! You live in Canada and make $9.75 an hour, and you really like the United States health care system.

Well YOU TOO can have the same health care that people in the USA have that make $9.75 an hour. It's true! Next time you get sick, just don't go to the doctor. Broken arm? That'll heal itself. Strep throat? Hey that's just a little cough, it will go away eventually. Just hang in there!

See, now you have the same health care that the USA has. Congratulations!!!

[jerphunter]

@TheRamenAvenger-Sarcasm win! But the comment "Vitaminous" wrote was so stupid that I'm starting to think he was being sarcastic well at least unintentionally....

[Vitaminous]

I never said I liked the US healthcare system, I am aware you have price problems and all, but nationalizing healthcare isn't going to be a fix (admittedly this isn't what you're doing, you're just mandating healthcare for all).

Ramen, you don't get it I guess - I lose 46% of that revenue to government spending, namely on healthcare, healthcare I can hardly benefit from because I do not have a family doctor, my coverage only comes in at times of emergencies, really.

[Vitaminous]

Basically, I could have a tumor right now and I'd never know, and would only get treatments the moment I start getting concerned about me urinating blood. Your rhetoric about 'try not to get sick' shows who you get your arguments from.

I'd rather put money aside and pay for my care than -now- being forced to perpetually pay for it.

Also, what drives the prices up in your system is the fact that you never see the costs, and it's not insurance, it's just coverage, someone else is paying the bill

[Vitaminous]

Another problem is employer-based coverage. As I said you never see the cost of your coverage - well, your employer does. This reduces his competitiveness and raises operational costs.

Not only that, but if you get perpetual health services and don't pay out of your pocket for them (simple checkups, say), your premiums will be high as fuck - now try to get affordable coverage when you lose your job or get a new one.

There's also no interstate competition, which is another problem.

[Vitaminous]

Your system needs a fix, but mandating coverage for everyone isn't the fix it needs. Nor would -eventually- having a single-payer system.

[KataVideo]

his name is lee doren, he's a paid conservative political operative. he tries to come off like he's some average guy making videos, LOL. FAIL

[oiuoiu988]

he's a libertarian, libertarians are more liberal on social issues than democrats. i'm not a huge lee doren fan but seriously, get a clue.

[TheBelobog]

lol, walk into a doctors office and tell them you don't have money, or health insurance and see what happens...

[sca719]

i did it and the doctor still helped me.

[sca719]

HowTheWorldWorks is current and everyone of you should watch his videos.

[KataVideo]

shut up lee

[angelwatching1]

Republicans such as this limited, thinking process, jerk must like to walk around with their head up their behind. They can't be that stupid can they??????

Dumb question? YES!

[SMFApples]

Yeah and the close- minded democrats know everything, so it's all good right? Obama is god and Pelosi is fucking Einstein, so he was elected and everything got fixed immediately. Oh shit that's the fairy tale world everyone bought into and now we are fucked.

[youbestbequiet]

Don't sweat it. We knew it would pass there just thought it would be a bigger margin of victory for the left. That vote showed how many problems it has but it will never pass the Senate. They will pass something though but no where near as left and govt controlled as this worthless bill.

[bronzlex]

P.S. - it will pass the Senate.. wait and see. i dont think you fully understand what has happened to you right-wingers. the word has got out. the people have had it. we are people and not a dollar sign !!!

[SMFApples]

I don't think you understand how blind your dumbass is. OBAMA HAS DONE NOTHING TO CHANGE. How can you trust a man whose PROMISE was change.  For God's sake his whole damn platform was change. Shit is yet to happen. All of the stupid idiots who voted for Obama was blinded by this. Seriously you can't win a battle on hope, you can't win a battle on change, and you can't win a battle without intellect. And all the soldiers of Obama have no intellect, they are sheep.

[bronzlex]

im not blind nor am i a dumbasss. you should notice that i have not called you any names(yet!). feel free to contact me on my sight SMF. i would be happy to speak more indepth. P.S. all politictians run on a platform of change(in my lifetime certainly). there is nothing new here.

[SMFApples]

Let's fuckin hope

[KataVideo]

I hope every single American without access to healthcare who also has the flu walks up to this prick and spits on him

[sca719]

I'll spit on you asshole.

[KataVideo]

no sca719, you'll kiss my asshole.

[sca719]

no you can kiss my ass bitch.

[KataVideo]

conservatards really hate America, don't they?

[sca719]

haha

[tomblue12sbc]

what a POS! Everytime King opens his mouth, flies and lies come out.....

[classc63]

GOD this man is such AN EMBARASSMENT to my state!!!!!!!!!! I wish he was in my District so that I could help to VOTE HIS ASS OUT!!!!!!!!!!

[Eastmanarium]

He's in my district but there's no way we can get rid of him. He actually outperformed his previous election results in '08, and won every county... Embarrassing.

[classc63]

Yeah...well that hasn't stopped me from writing to him to tell him JUST that! Plus the fact that Iowa DID was a BLUE STATE in the last election and unless his District was 100% Republican that he was NOT representing ALL the constituents that elected his ASS!

When he's up for re-election I will have no problems donating to ANYONE running against him!

[JohnnyBB82]

All Americans, as in all the Americans that count to this douchebag. I know people without insurance that will forgo a visit to the hospital under most circumstances because they just cannot afford the bill. When they do go, they still can't pay. Guess who does? The insured. And it costs much more now than if we were to have universal health care, where everyone's covered, and no one dies or goes without needlessly. This asshole's got to go.