I really liked your review and I agree with most points you make :) Especially the part when you contrast how at the end Amy is so excited to see more Van Gogh paintings when the audience is afraid that they'll be none. That was exactly what I was feeling at the time. Overall I really liked this episode as well. My favorite episodes are the character driven ones.
I enjoyed the episode, and although Amy's acting may not have been nearly as believable as I would have liked, I enjoyed the idea of her crying but not knowing it or why she was doing it.
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When i watched vincent and the doctor, i thought it was part of the we all love vincent van goph show.It was terrible! Yeah,whatever its a painter with mental issues.SO WHAT?
i kind of disagree that it was about depression; sure some parts were but it was a tribute to vincent van gogh's life; it didnt have to be a major alien fight.
sorry, van gogh fan here.
i agree with everything else you say up to 3:25 lol, then got a bit bored :)
the doctor becomes the beast from the impossible planet only j/king or am i
i didnt have much connection with vincent episode it will be a forgotten episode
for few moments i thought amy was a creation of the darlecs but then i realised she grew up so cant be a ! robot but wait why would an alien escape a galactic prison for some unthinkable crimes and bother to hide and wait for doctor to return few years later and not put amy's in coma and take her form first ! hmm
@okuma0kuma 1)Your grammar is horrible. I have almost no idea what you're saying lol. NO offense at ALL, but is English your first language?
2)The Midnight Entity of Series 4 reminds me a LOT of The Beast of Series 2. Like by a lot.
3)There is a theory for the continuation of Amy's story, that in Series 6 it will be shown she has a connection to the TARDIS. I won't get into it, but its quite interesting.
@SwobyJ 1) i am english ,grammer has no importance to me
2) disagree the silence oops i mean mimic has zero relation to the impossible planet ,how ever the doctor and beast are the same
3)yes amy and rory are returning next season
if youre with in uk you can visit official doctor who site to visit planet skaro with amy and the doctor episode 2 you can stop the cybermen in the artic there will be 3 more episodes add to the current doctor who interactive adventure
1)You speak English, or you're from England? See, this is why grammar is important at times.. not trying to bug you.
2)The Doctor and the Beast are the same? Uh, what? The Beast the from the pre-universe. He is much, much older than the Doctor. We know that the Beast has children, like Abaddon on Torchwood, so why couldn't the Beast be related to the Midnight Entity? If you're saying its related instead to the 'silence', then that's interesting..
3)Yeah I know they are. That's not what I was talking about. I was saying how Amy may have more importance than even what she had in Series 5 - that she may be related to the TARDIS in some way.
4)lol yeah I know about the free Doctor Who games. I have no interest in downloading them, but I did already watch playthroughs of them on Youtube.
I think the series is getting better. This episode slightly odd but different direction. I couldnt really see the relevance of taking Van gough to his future. As he wouldnt be able to use any ideas from that time.
It would have been more meaning full if the doctor had simply shown a book or something about vangough.
Metaphores a plenty, and one that shows that depression is not all bad. that those with it can be creative. Though thats just my own impression from it.
Oh Dear, you don't half expect a lot from 40 minutes of Children's television! Firstly I fail to see how you view this episode's central theme being depression...The central theme was the Doctor and Amy meeting Vincent Van Gogh, simple as! You try your hardest to rationalise and provoke academic debate about something written for 8 year old children. It's nowhere as deep as what you are expecting. Amy can't change, as she should, the kids wont understand. Stop expecting adult drama from Who!
@Noblelox wander how many 8 year old kids have ever heard of or cared who vincent van gogh is or was ,since 2004 to now drwho has been family based entertainment and is not intentionally written for kids hence the gay time agent jack which has been in few episodes
this episode was depressing and i doubt it will be in any ones list as a best either
1: Crying wasn't meant as if she was really crying, but more as a metaphore. I mean she was supposed to shead a tear, but not really cry, and not having a close up it's impossible to see if she really cried or not.
2: Imagine loosing someone you love and don't remember the person, but still have this feeling of sadness hanging over you that you don't notice yourself, but I think that Karen did it brilliantly. She's an amazing actress and she has got a great grip to the role of Amy Pond.
thought the see you crying bit comment was a modifier in some way-after the cold blood incident i wasnt really surprised she changed. im thinking due to van goughs depression thats why he could see the monster in away-but im surprised they didnt have amy able to see it in a way.
Don't you think it's weird that it's ONLY the doctors enemies that are coming to see the pandorica? it's either the doctor himself inside..... or omega.... or the beast's mind.
In regards to not seeing Amy crying, she did wipe her eye in a way which seemed to indicate that she actually found a tear (even rubbing her fingers together). Even so, there is an echo of Rory's memory buried in her subconscious (as seen in "Cold Blood") in such a way that perhaps she wouldn't even know she's crying until someone mentions it.
The scene also brings out Van Gogh's incredible ability to see what others can't. I think our own inability to see her crying drives this concept home.
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thetasigma1000 1 year ago
I really liked your review and I agree with most points you make :) Especially the part when you contrast how at the end Amy is so excited to see more Van Gogh paintings when the audience is afraid that they'll be none. That was exactly what I was feeling at the time. Overall I really liked this episode as well. My favorite episodes are the character driven ones.
ModernDear 1 year ago
I enjoyed the episode, and although Amy's acting may not have been nearly as believable as I would have liked, I enjoyed the idea of her crying but not knowing it or why she was doing it.
dmt543nerd 1 year ago
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When i watched vincent and the doctor, i thought it was part of the we all love vincent van goph show.It was terrible! Yeah,whatever its a painter with mental issues.SO WHAT?
DWPRfan 1 year ago
i kind of disagree that it was about depression; sure some parts were but it was a tribute to vincent van gogh's life; it didnt have to be a major alien fight.
sorry, van gogh fan here.
i agree with everything else you say up to 3:25 lol, then got a bit bored :)
good work
uggyboots 1 year ago
the doctor becomes the beast from the impossible planet only j/king or am i
i didnt have much connection with vincent episode it will be a forgotten episode
for few moments i thought amy was a creation of the darlecs but then i realised she grew up so cant be a ! robot but wait why would an alien escape a galactic prison for some unthinkable crimes and bother to hide and wait for doctor to return few years later and not put amy's in coma and take her form first ! hmm
word limit meh
okuma0kuma 1 year ago
@okuma0kuma 1)Your grammar is horrible. I have almost no idea what you're saying lol. NO offense at ALL, but is English your first language?
2)The Midnight Entity of Series 4 reminds me a LOT of The Beast of Series 2. Like by a lot.
3)There is a theory for the continuation of Amy's story, that in Series 6 it will be shown she has a connection to the TARDIS. I won't get into it, but its quite interesting.
SwobyJ 1 year ago
@SwobyJ 1) i am english ,grammer has no importance to me
2) disagree the silence oops i mean mimic has zero relation to the impossible planet ,how ever the doctor and beast are the same
3)yes amy and rory are returning next season
if youre with in uk you can visit official doctor who site to visit planet skaro with amy and the doctor episode 2 you can stop the cybermen in the artic there will be 3 more episodes add to the current doctor who interactive adventure
okuma0kuma 1 year ago
@okuma0kuma More numbers:
1)You speak English, or you're from England? See, this is why grammar is important at times.. not trying to bug you.
2)The Doctor and the Beast are the same? Uh, what? The Beast the from the pre-universe. He is much, much older than the Doctor. We know that the Beast has children, like Abaddon on Torchwood, so why couldn't the Beast be related to the Midnight Entity? If you're saying its related instead to the 'silence', then that's interesting..
SwobyJ 1 year ago
@okuma0kuma PART 2:
3)Yeah I know they are. That's not what I was talking about. I was saying how Amy may have more importance than even what she had in Series 5 - that she may be related to the TARDIS in some way.
4)lol yeah I know about the free Doctor Who games. I have no interest in downloading them, but I did already watch playthroughs of them on Youtube.
SwobyJ 1 year ago
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dryan1989 1 year ago
I think the series is getting better. This episode slightly odd but different direction. I couldnt really see the relevance of taking Van gough to his future. As he wouldnt be able to use any ideas from that time.
It would have been more meaning full if the doctor had simply shown a book or something about vangough.
Metaphores a plenty, and one that shows that depression is not all bad. that those with it can be creative. Though thats just my own impression from it.
skbworld2008 1 year ago
Oh Dear, you don't half expect a lot from 40 minutes of Children's television! Firstly I fail to see how you view this episode's central theme being depression...The central theme was the Doctor and Amy meeting Vincent Van Gogh, simple as! You try your hardest to rationalise and provoke academic debate about something written for 8 year old children. It's nowhere as deep as what you are expecting. Amy can't change, as she should, the kids wont understand. Stop expecting adult drama from Who!
Noblelox 1 year ago
@Noblelox wander how many 8 year old kids have ever heard of or cared who vincent van gogh is or was ,since 2004 to now drwho has been family based entertainment and is not intentionally written for kids hence the gay time agent jack which has been in few episodes
this episode was depressing and i doubt it will be in any ones list as a best either
okuma0kuma 1 year ago
@Noblelox If you can't even understand what a theme is, don't expect people to take your comments seriously.
(As in, visiting Vincent Van Gogh isn't a 'theme', it is plot. Vincent's mental issues connect to the episode's theme, depression/tragedy)
Doctor Who has always contained the 'wow' for the children, and the 'thought provoking writing' for the adults. Like, always.
SwobyJ 1 year ago
1: Crying wasn't meant as if she was really crying, but more as a metaphore. I mean she was supposed to shead a tear, but not really cry, and not having a close up it's impossible to see if she really cried or not.
2: Imagine loosing someone you love and don't remember the person, but still have this feeling of sadness hanging over you that you don't notice yourself, but I think that Karen did it brilliantly. She's an amazing actress and she has got a great grip to the role of Amy Pond.
sesilie 1 year ago
thought the see you crying bit comment was a modifier in some way-after the cold blood incident i wasnt really surprised she changed. im thinking due to van goughs depression thats why he could see the monster in away-but im surprised they didnt have amy able to see it in a way.
TheBlindDyslexic 1 year ago
Don't you think it's weird that it's ONLY the doctors enemies that are coming to see the pandorica? it's either the doctor himself inside..... or omega.... or the beast's mind.
TweetReece 1 year ago
In regards to not seeing Amy crying, she did wipe her eye in a way which seemed to indicate that she actually found a tear (even rubbing her fingers together). Even so, there is an echo of Rory's memory buried in her subconscious (as seen in "Cold Blood") in such a way that perhaps she wouldn't even know she's crying until someone mentions it.
The scene also brings out Van Gogh's incredible ability to see what others can't. I think our own inability to see her crying drives this concept home.
DaniNouveau 1 year ago