I have a hard time believing these guys are actually active members of the church. For centuries God's laws have stated that homosexuality is sin... that's not put up to a public vote. Fighting for equal rights in what you believe in is one thing, but in matters of spiritual things, sin is sin... all of which separates us from the presence of God. When I sin, I try to humble myself before God and repent, not justify it. Guys, its time to repent or find another church that accepts homosexuality
Many of us beleive in God and understand him differently. "IF" I started taking it upon myself to speak for God and went around passing judgement on others who I thought was sinful or not sinful, then I would try to humble myself before God and repent, not justify it. It's time to repent or find a church that accepts bigotry, wait you already found one. Cheers-
For centuries "traditional" creedal based Christians (namely those that stem from Catholicism) have taught that homosexuality is evil and sinful. Just because of traditional creeds and religions have taught that homosexuality in and of itself is "sin" doesn't mean that it is evil or sinful. It's sad how much bigotry and misunderstanding has continued through religious based fear based anti-gay teachings. We need an ancient understanding of scripture not a Medieval one.
Why would he go to a church that he Mocks???? Why would you or better yet what kind of character would you have if you mocked the very church that you went to on Sunday. He can believe what he wants to but stop trying to tear down the church!
PEOPLE PICK THEIR RELIGION, NOT THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION. You are out of your mind if you think gays are subversive enough to WANT to be outcasts. Do you really think that if we had the choice we would choose to go through childhood being called a faggot? You honestly think people would choose to walk down the street and NOT be able to hold our partners hands or kiss them in public in fear of being gay bashed? We choose our sexual orientation about as much as black people choose to be black.
I used to think that way as a freshman in High School. I was very naieve. I awakened to my same sex orientation (gayness) when I was 12 years old and I was also baptized that same year. I served faithfully through my Aaronic priesthood callings and offices, was endowed, served a mission and came home just as attracted to men (gay) as I ever was. I went through counseling, Evergreen and even some other programs to overcome my same sex orientation. You cannot change what God hath designed.
acerusso, u mean how you gave into the imperfections of man by having sex with a woman? In the new testament marriage was only for those who couldn't contain the lust from each other as one of Jesus' apostles said. Marriage has changed too much from one man and any amount of woman and concubines he wants to what it is now to say the scriptures condemn this type of marriage
There's nothing trivial about it omiolo1. We will obtain civil rights. These rights are not yours to withhold from us. Please come of the closet already. You are just obsessed with gay and lesbian relationships. It's really creepy. Live your life dude. Let us live ours. Really.
We're happy to visit your temple. You let me know which one(s) you want us to visit and I'll make sure to bring a lot of friends. We think LDS is thrilled with all the great publicity they're receiving. Thrilled!
The Church kicked a bear and now they are reaping their reward. I would have thought a prophet, like the man who called all the members to get behind yes on prop 8 would have had greater foresight, I can not wait for the march on Washington. they should have this guy Clark speak there too he was very inspiring
I'm disturbed about the Church supporting prop 8 as well as the direction the Church has gone on this issue for over 15 years since the Hawaii same sex marriage issue. The There is every evidence in the world that the Proclamation on the Family was a reaction to same sex marriage, etc. Instead of further revelation on the issue the Church dug in its feet and did all in it's power to reject the reality of our stories and create a different story.
This is awesome! Thank you!
aGayMormon 1 year ago
Just so crazy that people cannot be accepted for being Gay. What good is religion if it makes you discriminate?
ZandRTheFlop 2 years ago
they are not mormons! they are MORONS!!!!
JAREDITE53 2 years ago
apples and oranges.
they're all fruit.
bkisme 2 years ago
I have a hard time believing these guys are actually active members of the church. For centuries God's laws have stated that homosexuality is sin... that's not put up to a public vote. Fighting for equal rights in what you believe in is one thing, but in matters of spiritual things, sin is sin... all of which separates us from the presence of God. When I sin, I try to humble myself before God and repent, not justify it. Guys, its time to repent or find another church that accepts homosexuality
jbpettus 3 years ago
Many of us beleive in God and understand him differently. "IF" I started taking it upon myself to speak for God and went around passing judgement on others who I thought was sinful or not sinful, then I would try to humble myself before God and repent, not justify it. It's time to repent or find a church that accepts bigotry, wait you already found one. Cheers-
budddy23 2 years ago
For centuries "traditional" creedal based Christians (namely those that stem from Catholicism) have taught that homosexuality is evil and sinful. Just because of traditional creeds and religions have taught that homosexuality in and of itself is "sin" doesn't mean that it is evil or sinful. It's sad how much bigotry and misunderstanding has continued through religious based fear based anti-gay teachings. We need an ancient understanding of scripture not a Medieval one.
Jacksonholenativ 2 years ago
Clark is such an awesome man! I'm proud of both of these guys who stood up there and told the truth about their lives.
Jacksonholenativ 3 years ago
Why didn't you video the interpreter too? Translation for deaf people is there for free, were you planning on providing closed captioning?
phreerider 3 years ago
These guys really are Mormon... (and one of them happens to be a fantastic Sunday School teacher.. I've sat in on his class before)
floppygoth 3 years ago
Why would he go to a church that he Mocks???? Why would you or better yet what kind of character would you have if you mocked the very church that you went to on Sunday. He can believe what he wants to but stop trying to tear down the church!
LOUETTA12 3 years ago
PEOPLE PICK THEIR RELIGION, NOT THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION. You are out of your mind if you think gays are subversive enough to WANT to be outcasts. Do you really think that if we had the choice we would choose to go through childhood being called a faggot? You honestly think people would choose to walk down the street and NOT be able to hold our partners hands or kiss them in public in fear of being gay bashed? We choose our sexual orientation about as much as black people choose to be black.
gaston0213 3 years ago
there is no such thing as a gay mormon. that goes against a core belief of the church. this is false.
acerusso 3 years ago
I used to think that way as a freshman in High School. I was very naieve. I awakened to my same sex orientation (gayness) when I was 12 years old and I was also baptized that same year. I served faithfully through my Aaronic priesthood callings and offices, was endowed, served a mission and came home just as attracted to men (gay) as I ever was. I went through counseling, Evergreen and even some other programs to overcome my same sex orientation. You cannot change what God hath designed.
Jacksonholenativ 3 years ago
you mean the imperfections of man. if you are attracted you should resist and just give in.
acerusso 3 years ago
acerusso, u mean how you gave into the imperfections of man by having sex with a woman? In the new testament marriage was only for those who couldn't contain the lust from each other as one of Jesus' apostles said. Marriage has changed too much from one man and any amount of woman and concubines he wants to what it is now to say the scriptures condemn this type of marriage
8200yt 3 years ago
Amen, I'm sorry for any uneccesary adversity that you may have had to endure.
budddy23 2 years ago
Thank you.
Jacksonholenativ 2 years ago
Obviously they are not Carole Midgen, sorry about that. (I filmed the video)
bobmorris60 3 years ago
SHAME on YOU for trivializing CIVIL RIGHTS!!
omiolo1 3 years ago
There's nothing trivial about it omiolo1. We will obtain civil rights. These rights are not yours to withhold from us. Please come of the closet already. You are just obsessed with gay and lesbian relationships. It's really creepy. Live your life dude. Let us live ours. Really.
SparkinSF 3 years ago
OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE NOT MORMON!
LOUETTA12 3 years ago
Well you can believe that all you want to but you're mistaken.
Jacksonholenativ 3 years ago
Really you are going to let me believe what I want? Wow thankyou!
LOUETTA12 3 years ago
Sure you can. You can believe that the earth is flat too.
Jacksonholenativ 3 years ago
Amen Brother. I have a temple recommend in my pocket and I'm right with you
rd1999 3 years ago
We're happy to visit your temple. You let me know which one(s) you want us to visit and I'll make sure to bring a lot of friends. We think LDS is thrilled with all the great publicity they're receiving. Thrilled!
SparkinSF 3 years ago
The Church kicked a bear and now they are reaping their reward. I would have thought a prophet, like the man who called all the members to get behind yes on prop 8 would have had greater foresight, I can not wait for the march on Washington. they should have this guy Clark speak there too he was very inspiring
rd1999 3 years ago
I'm disturbed about the Church supporting prop 8 as well as the direction the Church has gone on this issue for over 15 years since the Hawaii same sex marriage issue. The There is every evidence in the world that the Proclamation on the Family was a reaction to same sex marriage, etc. Instead of further revelation on the issue the Church dug in its feet and did all in it's power to reject the reality of our stories and create a different story.
Jacksonholenativ 3 years ago