To clarify, the 2nd century Gnostics believed that Jesus walked the earth in the 1st century, the same as the canonical Gospel writers. the difference is that these Gnostics believed that Jesus had no connection to the God of Israel (whom the termed the demiurge) and that his body was illusionary. Other traditions say that it was just something his spirit possesssed. So nothing like modern Mythicism existed back then.
There has always been "dissent." That was true both before and after the councils. The video itself deals with the very popular theories that Jesus didn't exist, or was a mythical spirit being only, or was copied from pagan deities. The words of the left hand presenter are taken from actual discussions I've had with such theorists. The notion that Jesus didn't exist is not a position in evidence as having existed in the early centuries. thanks for commenting
It was not until the 4th century that questions surrounding Jesus/Christ divine/human nature was settled to the satisfaction of certain ruling elites and proclaimed doctrinally 'sound'.
On the contrary... Arianism continued to be a powerful force in the Empire for quite some time after Nicea. It's the caricature of history that is often presented, that Christianity was this diversely liberal group that tolerated every viewpoint and suddenly, Constantine stepped in and crushed every position but the one he liked best.
British Christian Ninja? lol I like the contrasting humor against the dry robotic voices doing the debates. surprisingly entertaining.
VinnfordSansbury 2 years ago
To clarify, the 2nd century Gnostics believed that Jesus walked the earth in the 1st century, the same as the canonical Gospel writers. the difference is that these Gnostics believed that Jesus had no connection to the God of Israel (whom the termed the demiurge) and that his body was illusionary. Other traditions say that it was just something his spirit possesssed. So nothing like modern Mythicism existed back then.
XSC3 2 years ago
And even after that there were ecclesiastical dissenters manifested as eastern & north African independent churches for centuries afterwords.
yorubablk3 2 years ago
There has always been "dissent." That was true both before and after the councils. The video itself deals with the very popular theories that Jesus didn't exist, or was a mythical spirit being only, or was copied from pagan deities. The words of the left hand presenter are taken from actual discussions I've had with such theorists. The notion that Jesus didn't exist is not a position in evidence as having existed in the early centuries. thanks for commenting
XSC3 2 years ago
It was not until the 4th century that questions surrounding Jesus/Christ divine/human nature was settled to the satisfaction of certain ruling elites and proclaimed doctrinally 'sound'.
yorubablk3 2 years ago
On the contrary... Arianism continued to be a powerful force in the Empire for quite some time after Nicea. It's the caricature of history that is often presented, that Christianity was this diversely liberal group that tolerated every viewpoint and suddenly, Constantine stepped in and crushed every position but the one he liked best.
XSC3 2 years ago
the Human 'Jesus' & the 'spirit' being 'Christ' was seen by most 'christion' tendencies as separate initially.
yorubablk3 2 years ago
based on what, yorubablk3?
XSC3 2 years ago
lol..this 'good' but kinda confused
yorubablk3 2 years ago