Luciano Pavarotti - Credeasi, Misera!

[myfavourite08]

This is simply perfect, as always when Luciano Pavarotti sings. Whether falsetto or not is simply unimportant when one considers the aria as a whole. This is it, this is how it has to be sung and it is absolutely beautiful from any aspect.

By the way, I do not understand how one can even compare Gedda with Pavarotti ....

[notsobluebear]

For the F5, I'd give it up for Brownlee. Next up, Kudrya - I see a lot of potential in this guy. I would have loved to hear Pavarotti in his really early years when his voice mighta been more on the leggiero side.

[65attila]

This is a stunning performance - what a sweet sound. Of course the "F" is

going to be discussed but the beauty of tone and line of Pav here are special.

[PauloDeGregorio]

Penso que sea la mejor interpretación que yo he escuchado de crediasi misera,

[cccorsetti]

pavarotti's f5 in falsetto here is still the best I've ever heard from anyone

[mapex33]

Ese falsete que hace me encanta!!!!!

[dblair1258]

Very pretty falsetto F at the end. The D was VERY nicely done as well. I personally don't care for full-voiced Fs by tenors in the piece. Sounds too shrill to my ear. Transposing the F down to another D is probably the better thing to do in our day and age when softer, falsetto-esque sounds are not terribly appreciated.

[RoOodOoOloOmeg]

the whole interpretation is far better than Gedda's now, high F, I don't care, is only a note, but Gedda made it properly.

[Dymension]

@spatauser I wouldn't say that. There is a pirate Sonnambula from the MET during the 60s where Gedda sings the shit out of Elvino. Now I can accept that Pavarotti has a more BEAUTIFUL voice than Gedda....but then that's a matter of opinion....

[yafazudametalero]

sounds like a heavy metal Pavarotti

[ganekelioque]

even pavrottis falsetto is rediculous

[arcot9]

WOW.....find me somebody today who can come close to this!!

[judelko]

the gedda version with stills is really horrible, wincingly ugly sound. stills with pavarotti is lovely. this version is absolutely beautiful. pavarotti indisputably had the voice of the century. the earlier recordings were as perfect as any could be.

[inchiavedido]

magnifico, voce sontuosa, splendida interpretazione, grande fraseggio, espressività raffinata. il falsetto... vabbè, non diminuisce la stupenda performance

[MrAndredekock]

Dear friends, I have always respected Pavarotti although he is by no means my favorite tenor. However, in interpretation of a role I have found Nicolai Gedda to be far superior to Pavarotti in my opinion. In all the roles Gedda recorded with Sills he way outshines anything Pavarotti ever produced. In the Puritani he does with Sills the Credeasi is a full head voice High F and NOT falsetto and does not sound like a stuck pig squealing! Bravissimo Gedda!

[doctorcaligarissss]

@MrAndredekock I have heard the Gedda's version on youtube: he dont does the High F. Celso Albelo actually does it.

[MrAndredekock]

@doctorcaligarissss I don'y usually bother arguing with people but you are speaking RUBBISH! I have the Gedda recording in my own collection and if I have tested that high F once I have done it a HUNDRED times on my piano, simply because it flabbergasts me every time I hear it, and he is PERFECTLY on pitch singing a high F in full head voice. The SAME recording is here on YouTube so please get your facts straight before commenting with an UNTESTED opinion, given as fact!

[doctorcaligarissss]

@MrAndredekock Ok, ok I trust you, but I cant find in youtube the version that you say.

[MrAndredekock]

@doctorcaligarissss Just type in Nicolai Gedda Credeasi and you will find it. That is a High F, PERFECTLY on pitch!

[doctorcaligarissss]

@MrAndredekock can you type the page address please?

[MrAndredekock]

@doctorcaligarissss I tried posting it here for you but it kept on saying: Error, try again. If you just type in the search window, "Nicolai Gedda Credeasi Misera" it will bring up the correct aria for you.

[iwbljd490]

@MrAndredekock i'd like you to attempt to hit that note and maybe post it on youtube so we can hear it ;) i'm kiddin, i would not. but maybe you'll hit the note even ten times better than pavarotti, who is by no means my favorite tenor too. what i sincerely doubt is that you'd be able to sing all the rest as good as he does. please don't take this comment as an insult, it's just my opinion :D p.s. domingo is my all-times favourite and he didn't even have a solid C btw...

[MrAndredekock]

@iwbljd490 IF I was a tenor and had the range I would sing Puritani. My point is simply that any opera singer of integrity says, "I can't sing that role". So all the tenors who do NOT have an effortless high F should steer clear and NOT transpose it or sing falsetto. How would you feel about some tenor singing every high C falsetto? Should he be singing roles he can't manage? Your attempt at humor doesn't fit the scenario. But please don't take this as an insult, it's just my opinion.

[iwbljd490]

@MrAndredekock i wasn't making fun... i'd hope you were... firsto of all music has to be the goal... always. first of all, this note was written to be sung in falsetto; at the time bellini wrote this nobody used to sing even a top c in full voice. someone had the idea, and the vocie of course, to sing it in full voice... that's ok. i don't mind it but it was just his interpretation of it... but it doesn't mean that all the tenors have to be able to do it

[iwbljd490]

@MrAndredekock it's a musical choice and if you judge every tenor singing who is singing it by how they compare to the one that can hit the high f you're missing the point. music ain't like sports.

[tklogan111809]

@MrAndredekock Gedda's tops sound like a woman's. Please.

[Alleeexoscm]

Increible, transmite mucho su canto

Francamente no comprendo como desprecian su forma de cantar, quizas es que algunos de los que comentan son capaces de hacerlo mejor que Luciano. Pues estoy seguro que el señor hace lo mejor puede, quien no quisiera ser un nuevo Rubinni para deslumbrar al publico con un Fa sobreagudo como lo hacia él con Bellini y para quien fue hecha este aria.

[MrAndredekock]

Bravo Pavarotti for actually trying it! Although he had to sing the high F falsetto, at least Pavarotti attempted the piece in this recording the way Bellini composed it. BUT listen to the Sills/Gedda Puritani and you will hear Nicolai Gedda singing a perfect high F in the tenor register NOT falsetto!

[diuscorvus]

@MrAndredekock In Bellini's day, I think the tenors took most notes above the staff in head voice, i.e. falsetto. It was only with Verdi's operas that tenors took their chest voice all the way up.

[tklogan111809]

@MrAndredekock Gedda sounds like a woman doing the high F, it's hideous, he's no Rubini or Pavarotti. Anyway, Gregory Kunde has a better full voiced F.

[incredulousG3]

@tklogan111809 You want power, go with Brownlee. Delicacy, try Mateuzzi or Gedda. Good blend, Osborn. John Osborn sings my favorite high f5.

[bigus]

amazing!

[manulele87]

4:50 is pavarotti?wooow its my first time that i heared this BRAVO BIG LUCIANO!

[escrapix]

No es el falsete una tecnica ,parte del canto,por que ud lo califica de m...?

[escrapix]

No es el falsete parte del canto,por que ud lo califica de m...?

[gdawg116]

definitely an excellent rendition and the first Db was excellent especially for Pavarotti! But the F in falsetto should have another Db cause he's not especially well-equipped to do that. With two D-flats (which sound great by the way) this could have EXTRA EXTRAORDINARY.  But its just extraordinary. :)

[elprimoespinosa]

Una mierda su falsete...

[werthersamsa]

@elprimoespinosa OK, então faça você mesmo algo melhor que esta merda.

[muatlas]

Beautiful. Pavarotti takes your breath away. Only Gedda sings this aria as well.

[MrAndredekock]

@muatlas Gedda sings it MUCH better! His high F is NOT falsetto as Pavarotti's is here. But at least Pavarotti tried.

[muatlas]

@MrAndredekock Pavarotti's falsetto is substantial and beautiful none-the-less.

[tenorbass100]

@muatlas Falzet.

[mdcolinis]

Excelente

[mdcolinis]

que falsete mas calidoso, aunque para oidos inexpertos la version sin el fa sobreagudo es mejor, pero la version original es excepcional, exige,

[RicardoMarinelloTV]

@Hammerfischer Nein Nein, er singt das schon nur mit Kopfstimme!!! 

[deutekomefran]

C'est sublime!

[deutekomefran]

C'est sublime. Quel merveilleux tenor!

[jazztom86]

haha, in the foto at 2:00 he looks like a mafioso.

[RoOodOoOloOmeg]

@jazztom86 jkajkakja a mobster =)

[malamutet]

Nei Puritani Pavarotti è stato un vero BIG LUCIANO, uno dei migliori interpreti di sempre. Penso anche che questa non sia una delle sue migliori performance in ques'aria.

[mararayden]

Probably it's not stylistically correct but I prefer a falsetto high F instead of a full voice one. Anyway I believe this aria is better with a C sharp as the highest note. Pavarotti's C# and falsetto F are great.

[PhilipFairweather]

It was probably more stylistically correct for the time of Bellini, when people weren't so hung up about the use "falsetto"...

[seektheforce]

ah such a nice full falsetto note.

[armcint]

marvelous that was the great the BIG Luciano

[kirrinchas]

bien, solo que si no podia con el fa sobreagudo preferiria no ese falsete, que no se escucha bien

[marcherst]

oh my gosh, this is gorgeous!

[davilacm]

i love pavarotti.....but you gotta laugh at 1:20:)

[jacobgeocortes]

There are those who can produce a very well developed and beautiful sounding high F. Maybe not in this song, but is non the less sung greatly.

Gregory Kunde, from Illinois, and Eduardo Ayes, from Argentinian who sings this song, in my opinion, beautifully.

[TheInquisitive4Ever]

Actually Kunde's high F sounds like a pig's squeal. In fact, any man with testicles who sings a high F sounds like that. It should be omitted in the modern era as the singing style and technique has changed after Caruso. Before Caruso, Una Furtiva Lacrima was not sung in full voice. Go figure.

[TheInquisitive4Ever]

AA-You seriously need a clue. Just consider the pitch and the fact that it has to emanate from a male with testicles. You really make no sense. And let me guess. You will never ever reach the top in your endeavor as a tenor. Wanna bet?

[TheInquisitive4Ever]

I suppose you are joking when you say "I am aspiring tenor".

[TheInquisitive4Ever]

You seem to live your life based on fortune cookies. Nice going Sherlock!

[thehix]

Dramatic, you ?? Seriously ? LOLOL

[thehix]

Well there's actually a video of me singing from bout 3 years ago. It's called "Biro - Where's my baby". I'm not posting anything related to classical music because I'm just not going make a foul of myself trying to sing something for which I'm not ready yet. How bout you do yourself a favor and stop :D. Btw you're still singing with your throat constricted and it's out of tune most of time. I've uploaded a segment of me singing a part of Werberlied. If you're a dramatic tenor, I'm a bass lol.

[colino72]

@TheInquisitive4Ever Absolutely! All this dumb talk about falsetto high F! As I think you (or someone else mentioned), it was well after this was written that any tenor sang a C5 in 'full head' voice. The style has changed.

[seektheforce]

@jacobgeocortes You might also try Lawrence Brownlee, the soprano in the video is horrible, but Lawrence makes a resounding effort to make up for it.

[Pavarotti4eva]

the soprano is joan sutherland herself, jackass

[seektheforce]

@Pavarotti4eva in this video, but what about the video I was talking about?

[radiologist301]

WHAT a beautiful voice.....head and shoulders above anyone else.....no question......forget all the rest

[TheInquisitive4Ever]

Yes! The high F is in falsetto indeed (a wise technical choice by Big Pava in my opinion). Full voice F emanating from a tenor sounds like a pig squeal no matter how well it is delivered. Asking a modern era tenor to produce a high F is unrealistic.

[tena2]

To me, the high F is overall unnecesary and ugly sound, tenors are better off transpossing it but singing the high F in falsetto does not sound nice either.

[TheInquisitive4Ever]

This summer I read an very rigorous analysis of the this aria by a musical scholar who also put it into historical context. According to this scholar, the tenors of the period used different techniques and such. He was also suggesting that there is no point in expecting from a tenor of the modern era to produce a high F.

[tneprescintr]

I don't think a falsetto would do the trick either, but i understand your concern about modern performers. But i believe the best alternative to the the 'high F issue' is the mezza voce sound... Gedda, for example, uses it really well. His F does not sound like a pig squeal neither is it artificial-like, as a falsetto would be.

[TheInquisitive4Ever]

No matter who sings it, a high F emanating from a male (who still has his testicles) sounds like a pig squeal. The idea (as pursued by all top tenors who sung this aria/role) is to hit the highest note they can (of course, nothing short of a C#) and do it with utmost mastery.

[tneprescintr]

i humbly disagree...

[zurriuss]

I have never heared the better version of this aria. BRAVO PAVAROTTI!

[tneprescintr]

i feel stupid asking for this... but would yo have these lyrics?

[ytamy]

here's an abridged version, there's a lot of background singing but these are Arturo & Elvira's words:

ARTURO

Credeasi, misera!

Da me tradita,

Traea sua vita

In tal martir!

Or sfido i fulmini,

Disprezzo il fato,

Se teco allato

Potrò morir!

[ytamy]

ELVIRA

Qual mai funerea

Voce funesta

Mi scuote e desta

Dal mio martir!

Se fui sì barbara

Nel trarlo a morte

M'avrà consorte

Nel suo morir!

(chorus,etc)

[ytamy]

ELVIRA

Arturo!

ARTURO

Elvira, Elvira!

ELVIRA

Arturo,Arturo, tu vivi ancor!

ARTURO

Teco io sono.

[ytamy]

ELVIRA Il tuo perdono! Per me a morte, o Arturo mio! ARTURO Ah un amplesso! ELVIRA Sì, mio bene. ARTURO Ah, un addio! ELVIRA Un addio!

[ytamy]

ARTURO Arrestatevi, scostate, Crudeli, crudeli! Ella è tremante, Ella è spirante, Anime perfide, Sorde a pietà. Un solo istante, Ah, l'ira frenate Poi vi straziate Di crudeltà.

[ytamy]

Thank you so much for posting this. one Q, is this from the Richard Bonynge Decca recording?

[Mooorhe]

Yes it is.

[Nater389]

That high F is falsetto correct?