If Jesus while on earth said, "I Am God, Worship Me", then he is not God. Only other reference verses in the Holy Bible about his words and teachings that affirm and justify Jesus is God.
Analogy: If I were descended to ants world and transformed into an ant image, I would not say, I'm a human because visibly I'm bearing an ant image and no single ant would believe me.. Only my words and teachings can justify in ants world that I'm human...
islamic beliefs and other unbeliever has veiled eyes that is why they can not see that Jesus Christ is the one true God in the flesh(Son). Their understanding is only in the physical and not on the spiritual realm.
There are at many prophecies for the Messiah that have not been fulfilled yet. When they are fulfilled in their entirety...then all people will be believe...including the Jews. There is no reason to speculate if Jesus was the messiah at this time as it is obvious that famine, war and pestilence are still on earth. When creation is completed through the coming of messiah everyone will bow down to him, no matter who he turns out to be as all creation will be completed.
Jesus was also a muslim pbuh he wasn't a christian because that word came after he was gone in Antioch by the sarcastic words of King Aggripa to Paul who accepted that false misnor! Jesus was a Jew/Hebrew and that's not a faith either it's a bloodline and he also used the words Allah/Elah, As Salamu Alaiykum/peace be upon you etc, you christians don't say Allah nor As Salaamu Alaiykum. He was a man, how can you debase the Creator to a lower man who deficates and urinate filth?
@ssuperbill2 Who did Jesus call on when he was on that cross? He called on Eloi/Elah/Elohim! Surely if he was God he wouldn't have let them put him on a cross, nor he would of ate honey comb and broil fish, and use the bathroom etc!
BIBLE: Mar 15:34 "And at the ninth hour JESUS CRIED with a loud voice, saying, ELOI, ELOI, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? "
So he didn't use the word God and he called on the Creator LMAO! go and STUDY
@ssuperbill2 Now if you really wanna get funky, MELCHIZEDEK had NO MOTHER NOR A FATHER Hebrews 7:3, that's even better than Jesus also, because Jesus had a mother! Jesus himself said GET AWAY FROM ME YE THAT WORK INIQUITIES! because a man said "HAVEN'T WE CAST OUT DEVILS IN YOUR NAME? " Jesus himself get away because you're not suppose to call on him for anything it's Elah/Elohim who you are suppose to call on! Proof?
@ssuperbill2 Go read your Bible and God said "THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD AND THERE IS NONE ELSE" What part of that don't you Christians don't understand? NONE means NONE ELSE! So how in the heck can Jesus be God? One doesn't mean two! And to speak about that God Manifest himself into flesh, that could of meant Adam, because He created Adam out of the ground and blew his ruah/spirit into Adam, Ruah in Hebrew and Arabic means spirit!
@ssuperbill2 You're a liar, John 8:58 does not say that Jesus declared himself to be the Most High, it says this:
BIBLE: John 8:58 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."
Elohim/Elah is I AM and he states that to Moses books, that's the creater not Jesus! Jesus is simply saying there was a creator or deity before Abraham who Abraham also worshipped! You people try to take qoutes from the bible and try to twist them not on me you're not!
You still fail to answer. Show a verse where jesus said "I am God" or "worship me" like God said in Quran 5:72, 21:98, 1:2-5 and many more. What you did is just playing with the verse and putting your prediction and thought
26 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw the signs I performed but because you ate the loaves and had your fill. 27 Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.” 28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?” 29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
0 So they asked him, “What sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do? 31 Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’[a]” 32 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”
First, I have not deleted anyone's comments. Those have been removed by people who hit the spam button.
Second, Thomas bowed before Jesus and called him LORD and GOD (John 20:28). Jesus did not rebuke him. Jesus attributed the name of God to himself (John 8:58) and the Pharisees sought to stone him for the crime of blasphemy.
Third, God was clearly not calling Moses God in Exodus 7:1, he said "like a god." Jesus on the other hand said it of himself, "Before Abraham was I AM!"
@YeshElsm all these vague verses you have quoted, if for sake of argument, I admit they r saying what u think they are, then my question is to you why non of the other Gospels recorded them? why all vague verses I am the alpha n omega, I am the way, I and God are one, I am this n that...always comes from Gospel of John? which was the last Gospel was written nearly 100 years after the time......if Jesus really had spoken something like that why MARK, LUKE, MATTHEW didn't record them?
He Was Not GOD Himself... In The Old Testament GOD Tells Moses, 'I Have Made You A GOD To Pharoah', Why Don't You Say Moses Is GOD??? GOD Gave All Prophets The Power To Forgive Sins While They Walked The Earth, They Were GOD's Representatives... Jesus Did Not Allow People To Worship Him, In Fact He Didn't Even Want The Rich Man To Call Him Good, But He Will Let You Worship Him??? C'mon!... Why Are You Deleting Peoples Comments??? Because They Don't Support Your Claim??? That's Not Righteous...
@PeechuSalaam tired silly Deedat arguments that have already been refuted, I see you are black I guess you want to be good black raisin head ibid for the Arab Mahdi since your religion teaches the Arab's are the supreme race, and the Quraysh will rule the world one day.
@ceeker248 Deedat Has Been Refuted By Who??? Show Me??? A Christian??? Christians Cannot Refute Anyone, Because Your Whole Religion Is Based On Lies... No I'm Not Black, What Does Race Have To Do With Anything??? I Don't Follow 'Islam' Either, I Follow GOD's Truth And Reject All Falsehood... Peace... Arabs Are Not Race, And I Don't Follow Hadiths...
@PeechuSalaam Anyone who has studied logic and theology laughs at Deedat and the rest of these Muslim's Du'at. Islam is not a environment fit for critical rational thinking, that 's why many of us apostatized from it. And anyway you just admitted you are not a real Muslim, your are a mubtadi so you are half way to the truth, Which god are you speaking of?
Christians Can Never Answer The Simple Question, 'Did Jesus Himself Say He Was GOD, Or Worship Me?', Because They Can't Say Yes, And If They Say No Then That Questions Their Religion. So They Choose To Go Through The Bible And Pick Out Verses Out Of Context That Seem To Them Are Supporting The Lie And Deception Of Jesus Being GOD... GOD Says In The Qur'an That This Is A Monsterous Lie... Jesus Will Deny All You Christians That Claim He Is GOD, (Matthew 7:21-23)... Christians Reply Respectfully..
@PeechuSalaam - I will tell you flat out that Jesus did not say it and I am the one posted this video. At least, he did not say it in as many words as have been offered to us by the Imam in this video. We never claimed that he used those very words! Rather, we have claimed that Jesus (pbuh) attributed the name Yahweh to himself, that he forgave sins, that he allowed people to worship him, and that he could do none of these things if he were not God himself.
@PeechuSalaam Islam makes people illogical that's why I left it. show me were the Quran say's Muhammad is that last prophet, that Allah is the same god as the God of the Bible, that that Muhammad is not a false prophet, that the the Sunnah is revelation, That you have to be a mujtahid to derive rulings from the Quran, that Allah is not the moon god? I could go on you know.. but think logical people can figure how stupid such a question is.
@ceeker248 Brother I'm Sorry You Been Lied To And Went From Worshiping The ONE GOD To Worshiping Three GODS(Trinity)... 'Islam' Is Not My Religion, My Religion Is The Original And Only Religion Accepted By The GOD Of Abraham, Total Devotion And Submission To GOD Alone. I Directly Worship GOD, No 'Jesus' Demon Needed... Peace...
@PeechuSalaam Muhamamd is a not prophet, Allah of hijaz has always been a idol so was his daughter/wife Al-lat the black stone whom you kiss, allah is not one god, his partner is Muhammad, Abraham never set foot in Mecca did not build the pagan kabaa, Islam is a Arab supremest cult bent on world domination that the real GOD of Israel Yeweh will destroy when His Son Yeshua the Messiah returns to punish all the nations who opposed Israel like it says in the real Word of God the Bible.
@ceeker248 Like I Said Brother, I'm Sorry You Been Lied To And Now Worship A Trinity Of GOD's... You Should Have Stuck To The Qur'an Alone And Not Hadiths... Peace...
@PeechuSalaam your statement show's you are ignorant of theology, there is no such theological concept of a "trinity of GOD's", were did you learn that from? I am not sure why so many Muslims choose to speak about topics that little knowledge of. Is that the way your deen teaches you to give dawah?
@ceeker248 Don't You Listen??? What Are You Trying To Prove By Using Arabic Words When Replying To Me??? I'm Not Arabic, I Speak English, And I Told You 'Islam' Is Not My Religion... Oh And I Got The Trinity Of GOD's Concept From You Christians, No Matter How You Put It You Worship Three Gods... Peace...
Can any Muslims show me from the whole of the Holy Bible where did Jesus said I am not God & do not worship me. Show me the scripture from the Holy Bible.
Plus prove Muhammad is a prophet who appointed him a prophet. Who anointed him a prophet? Who declared him a prophet? Where is the witness?
@manmohak1990 You Gotta Be Kidding Me... First Show Me Where 'Jesus' Says I Am GOD Or Worship Me And Then We Will Talk About Your Question... That Would Be Never...
@PeechuSalaam what a illogical question, so are you saying the only way the Bible can communicate that Jesus is God is by quoting Him as saying the exact phase " I Am GOD Or Worship Me " , are you logically contestant with that rationale? Do you apply that logic to the Quran and Islamic creed?
Where i can make u a kid? U r a kid only. Jesus was worshipped.Thomas called My God & My Lord, he worshipped but Jesus never rebuked.refer Gospel of Jesus Christ. Secondly, SHOW ME A SINGLE VERSE JESUS SAID I AM NOT GOD DO NOT WORSHIP ME!!! CAN U DO THAT. Open your eyes & minds, repent & ask forgiveness from Jesus Christ the Lord & savior who is faultless & sinless.Allah likes sins from his own elected/chosen prophet now & in the future also sura 48:2 A sin liking god demi-allah.
@manmohak1990 "SHOW ME A SINGLE VERSE JESUS SAID I AM NOT GOD DO NOT WORSHIP ME!!!" is not the answer of question "where did Jesus said " I AM GOD" OR "WORSHIPED ME", like God said in Quran 5:72, 21:98, 1:2-5 and many more. Dont you not think it is very strange that a Holy book "Bible", where Christian claim that Jesus is God, but yet there can't be found a single verse where Jesus said that "I AM GOD" neither the word Bible is found in the book Bible. If yes, then i am very interested to see it
I quote your word ", like God said in Quran 5:72, 21:98, 1:2-5 and many more Unquote. ALLAH DIDNOT SPEAK TO MUHAMMAD IN THE KORAN IT WAS ONLY ANGEL WHICH I CANNOT BELIEVE BECAUSE THE ANGEL TORTURED MUHAMMAD CAUGHT FORCEFULLY TO HIS NECK AND TOLD HIM TO READ/RECITE BUT THE ANGEL DID NOT GIVE HIM THE MATERIAL TO READ OR TO RECITE ANGEL DID NOT PRONOUNCE FROM HIS MOUTH TO RECITE. TOTALLY WRONG REVELATION. MUHAMMAD IS A SELF APPONTED PROPHET. NOBODY ANOINTED HIM AS A PROPHET.
the text can be considered to be past tense and this was an event that would happen during the life of Ahaz; it was to be a sign for Ahaz. This was to happen long before Jesus may have existed
this is the better translation
"Behold, the young woman has conceived-[is with child)-and beareth a son and calleth his name Immanuel"
You Christians are feed doctrine that he is yet you can't provide any proof he is, stop taking verses and trying to twist them into saying he is. I have shown you from your own bible where Jesus said "MY GOD, AND YOUR GOD" he is clearly stating he has a GOD THAT HE WORSHIP. Why would Jesus fall on his face to pray, crying to Eloi? If he was God he wouldn't have prayed. That means he is not equal to the creator nor is he the creator!
QURAN RAHIM VS TRUTHTEACH 3010 PART 2 <---Here is my video, for you Christians why is there 4 different bibles then one of them don't even have the word JESUS in it! anyone of you can debate me in the public, so I can show you how brainwashed and ignorant you are. Stop trying to debate here, I AM CALLING ANY OF YOU CHRISTIANS OUT! If you claim Jesus is God but can't show us where he specifically said he is clearly then U are confused!
@rahim4411 - If you are serious about a public debate then please make the challange here: DrOakley1689's YouTube Chanel - or - Call 1-877-753-3341 "The Dividing Line" Most Tuesday mornings at
11:00am MST and most Thursday afternoons at 4:00 MST. Thank you for your courage and I look forward to hearing you.
@YeshElsm Peace, it seems like that is a Radio phone show am I correct? Thank you for the invite, but I am talking face to face with christians and muslims or anyone in the audience. What I have to show would be in front of the Dr. and Christain believers. Again thank you for the invite.
@rahim4411: It is a radio show and I am certain that @DrOakley1689 would be interested in your call. He welcomes any well informed, respectful and consistent argument. Peace to you.
@YeshElsm If you are serious about a public debate then please make the challange here: DrOakley1689's YouTube Chanel - or - Call 1-877-753-3341 "The Dividing Line" Most Tuesday mornings at
11:00am MST and most Thursday afternoons at 4:00 MST. Thank you for your courage and I look forward to hearing you.
-Please do page me if this guy calls I would really like to see this, I am counting on it, his arguements & claims are Bogus, Like deedats claims were based on manipulated scripture.
@mhdmoh Mohammad DIDN'T perform any miracles. Mohammad is a false prophet. There is 1 Saviour who is Jesus Christ the Son of God. U r brainwashed. Islam DOESN'T encourage Muslims 2 question the koran + most Muslims r happy 2 just believe what theyr told. God's Word DOESN'T SUPPORT the koran. The koran is clearly NOT FROM GOD. It contradicts God's Word + calls God's record of His Son a lie. UR koran SHOWS THAT Mohammad PERFORMED NO MIRACLES. Show me these so-called miracles Muslims claim?
@MTLBOBIRAS Having received a "friend request" from U, it seems strnge that u seem 2 think i am a Muslim. C my previous comments. I think u have just misread these other comments. I follow the Lord Jesus Christ who is the Son of God + God in the flesh...Ur brother in Christ Jesus...
@The3in1trinity Having received a "friend request" from U, it seems strnge that u seem 2 think i am a Muslim. C my previous comments. I think u have just misread these other comments. I follow the Lord Jesus Christ who is the Son of God + God in the flesh...Ur brother in Christ Jesus...
Trinity: I am clearly aware of your status, all is Good, take care brother!
@YeshElsm It fails to address the question. “Where does Jesus says himself in the bible "I am God, worship me"? Yasin also makes the exception not to use the words of Mathew, Mark, Luke, John nor Paul; but of Jesus himself. This clearly is not verbatim in the bible. So the whole speech is a tangential argumentation.
@TheTruthWanderer - Yasim is right, Jesus does not say verbatim, "I am God, worship me!" So I guess he can keep his $5000. However, his question, when understood rightly, does have an answer. Jesus did say "I am God" in the language of the people who accused him of blasphemy. The evidence of this is that they attempted to stone him. This is irrefutable.
@TheTruthWanderer Ur comment is 1 of the worst rebuttals of this video. U have given no example. U make a statement without any evidence. The video gives plenty of example's of Jesus' divinity. Try watching the video again + reading the Scriptures quoted...
@The3in1trinity It is not a "rebuttal" a rebuttal is a form of argumentation. This is a statement of opinion. I don’t need to present any "evidence" for it. You really need to learn the differences between a statement and an argument (rebuttal) to begin with and also a valid argument, an inductive argument and a deductive argument, etc., etc.
@TheTruthWanderer Let's stay on topic: C my previous comment + watch video again. U clearly had nothing 2 say that could refute what the video was saying. Try not 2 make statements without facts. The video gives facts...
@The3in1trinity The video is just a rant. For me a fact is an objective and verifiable observation; but if your standard of evidence and your definition of fact is that low, go ahead. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. You don't have evidence nor facts; what you have, is a belief. And you are free to believe anything you want; as stupid or as unreasonable as it may be...
@The3in1trinity Sure mate... you are free to belief in anything you like: UFO's; the Coran; the Bible; Harry Potter; that doesn’t make it true. That's why we live in a free country; founded upon secular principles. So we can be free from the oppression and tyranny of christian gods, kings, reverends and priests. In 30 years superstitious religions like Christianity and Islam, will be a minority. Cheers!
@mhdmoh I don't really care whether or not he did it with his sword, it just doesn't matter. All that matters to me is if you have any credible evidence besides that scratch (there are 100s of such scratches BTW), but you sort of refuse to answer me.
The article you offered me also has no proof besides a scratch and certain "eyewitnesses". I normally don't visit this website, it's so full of lies, desperation, stupidity and crap in general in every subject, from Christianity to science.
Mohammad had good motives, i think he really did create the quran in hopes to support God. However it was obvious he knew very little of the scriptures and also the theology. Christians ever since 1st AD have been documented to have worshiped Jesus. Just read anti-christian writings of that time, from Lucian, plinny, etc. this was ALL BEFORE THE BIBLE.
The Quran comes 600 years AFTER the Nicene creed, and it contained wrong descriptions of "The Son of God" and the trinity.
@mhdmoh I watched the entire video. It speaks of a scientist who merely states that the moon is probably contracting and he tells us it's geologically "active". IRRELEVANT. He doesn't say anything that would even remotely indicate the moon having been cut in half by Muhammad.
To end this charade; do you have ANY evidence beside a scratch (=none whatsoever) that the moon was cut in half by Muhammad? I have nothing to watch from the video.
@mhdmoh "But I see you don't want to watch anything"
Spare me the typical Muslim ruse, "You're blind, you're misguided! You are dishonest, you don't want to see!"
Well I have seen that which you sent me, and it's a video of a scientist merely stating that the moon is and has been ACTIVE (I knew that), that it is perhaps shrinking and then a picture of the moon with a scratch on it. Not a single shred of evidence that Muhammad cut it in half.
Tell me what it is in the video that I keep missing.
@athanasiadis24 Well I have seen that which you sent me, and it's a video of a scientist merely stating that the moon is and has been ACTIVE (I knew that), that it is perhaps shrinking and then a picture of the moon with a scratch on it. Not a single shred of evidence that Muhammad cut it in half.
-He couldn't even save himself and was poisoned let alone split the moon, maybe he was high on opium and dreamt this, but there is 0 proof, I mean 0 Proof the moon was split in half, that is a croc!
@MTLBOBIRAS This "moon splitting" thing was really one of the most ridiculous assertions I've heard when it comes to completely non-existent Islamic "miracles". It's fascinating how people can deny the most basic and most obvious axioms of logic when they desperately wish to believe things for no good reason whatsoever...
@MTLBOBIRAS U don't know how to read Hebrew You're lying. I tell you what debate me in Public, the title will be "IS MUHAMMAD FORETOLD IN THE BIBLE" and I will have the Hebrew version and will show in from Many Hebrew sources not just one. Deal? I know you're wrong because I have it. It says "HIKUMBI TU BIKIM MI KULLI MUHAMMADIM" IN Hebrew. "IM" is plural for royalty of Respect Meaning "HE IS ALTOGETHER LOVELY ..." Which is put in place of Muhammad's name I can prove it.
@rahim4411 "HIKUMBI TU BIKIM MI KULLI MUHAMMADIM" IN Hebrew. "IM" is plural for royalty of Respect Meaning "HE IS ALTOGETHER LOVELY ..." Which is put in place of Muhammad's name I can prove it.
-Congrats on the partial truth, but it is NOT refering to Mohamed, matter of fact you can not prove anything. You know for a fact there is NO MENTION OF MOHAMED in any GOSPEL new or old.........Have Good Day!
I tell you what debate me in Public, the title will be "IS MUHAMMAD FORETOLD IN THE BIBLE" and I will have the Hebrew version and will show in from Many Hebrew sources not just one. Deal? I know you're wrong because I have it. It says "HIKUMBI TU BIKIM MI KULLI MUHAMMADIM" IN Hebrew. "IM" is plural for royalty of Respect Meaning "HE IS ALTOGETHER LOVELY ..." Which is put in place of Muhammad's name I can prove it.
why dont you join me on brotherpetedotcom on the forum, you can yell no limits
@MTLBOBIRAS Dude do you know what PUBLIC MEAN? I don't want to go on another site, I want to do it in public so I can show the different Bibles to people in the flesh LOL I have documents that will blow you out the frame and have you scratching your head! DEBATE ME IN PUBLIC!! I can set it up and have a place to do it, the symposium will be good for the people
@rahim4411 Dude do you know what PUBLIC MEAN? I don't want to go on another site, I want to do it in public so I can show the different Bibles to people in the flesh LOL I have documents that will blow you out the frame and have you scratching your head! DEBATE ME IN PUBLIC!! I can set it up and have a place to do it, the symposium will be good for the people
_DUDETTE, Answer the question then publicly, I am waiting
Even IF the scientist says in the video that it COULD be the moon having been torn apart (which is still ridiculous), it's STILL a theory, and STILL there's no evidence that it was Muhammad who did it with his sword. I feel stupid even when I mention this.
ALL the scientist says btw is that the moon is active, and has been active for millions of years.
...Let me also ask you this: would you think it is fair if I started to criticize all Muslims, and completely slander Islam because of monsters like Osama Bin Laden? The proof of whether or not a religion is true in what it claims is not in the individual actions of people who identify themselves with that religion. No, truth must be decided upon based on examining the claims of the religion itself. Friend, do you know what the Holy Injil is? Have you read it?
My friend, what do you think? The evils you have listed are examples of people who call themselves Christians who were in disobedience to Jesus Christ. One who is truly regenerated in Christ will not desire to kill other people. Even still, even as you are recreated in Christ, you still must choose to obey Him, and follow Him. He grants all who believe in Him eternal life, but He also calls them to die to themselves, and love their enemies, and pray for those who persecute them....
@mhdmoh The video is 8 minutes long, full of ramblings and pictures that seem somewhat random or irrelevant. There is no doubt whatsoever that the moon has never ever been cleft asunder. It's simple physics; had the moon been cut in two pieces even for brief seconds, the gravity of Earth would attract it immediately and lots of destructive stuff would take place.
Is there ANY evidence at all besides that scratch that the moon was torn apart by Muhammad? That's all I need to know.
@mhdmoh From what I can recall, the moon being torn apart was definitely not mentioned, and from what I can tell, no such thing took place 1400 years ago. It is just ridiculous.
See God of the Bible says "I AM GOD WORSHIP ME AND THERE IS NONE ELSE" So if Jesus is God he would of said the same thing, this is why we Muslims ask this. So SHOW US WHERE JESUS SAID I AM GOD WORSHIP ME! We are getting this from your Bible yall make it seem like we are getting this from thin air! Jesus and God are not equal.
@rahim4411 ISAIAH 48:12-17. ISAIAH 61:1. HEBREWS 1:1-14. JOHN 10:30. MATTHEW 26:63-66. JOHN 14:1-26. JOHN 1:1-34. HEBREWS 2:9-18. Jesus makes it clear who He is - the Son of God + the Saviour of the world. The ppl who CAN'T understand this r ppl who call God's record of His Son a lie. If u seek truth then u need 2 read God's Word. There is no truth in the koran. God's Word DOESN'T SUPPORT the koran. The koran calls God a liar!!! 2TIMOTHY 3:1-17...1 SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST WHO IS GOD IN THE FLESH...
@The3in1trinity Wrong! Songs of Solomon talks about Muhammad pbuh 5:16! Read the Hebrew version. If you can't read hebrew how can you talk on a matter you yourself don't even understand? I know who Isa/Yeshu'a the Son of Mary is, You christians are calling him by his wrong name anyway, there is no such person as Jesus in the those times, PROVE IT TO ME! i HAVE A BIBLE WITH ME RIGHT NOW WHERE THE WORD JESUS DON'T EXIST!
@rahim4411 Wrong! Songs of Solomon talks about Muhammad pbuh 5:16! Read the Hebrew version. If you can't read hebrew how can you talk on a matter you yourself don't even understand?
- I can read most of it and can tell you 100% for fact there is NO mention of Muhammed in that song, as a matter of fact there is 0 mention of Muhammed clearly by name in any of the gospels New and OLD, that is 100% fact.
@MTLBOBIRAS Now being you can read Hebrew you put it here what it says in Hebrew just like I did of 5:16" His mouth is most sweet; yea, HE IS ALTOGETHER LOVELY. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.'
Put it in Roman phonetic form like I did please if you can truly read it.
@The3in1trinity The son of Mary also said a man would come after him, and his name would be Ahmed! This is in Hebrew and the word Muhammad pbuh comes from the word Ahmed, do you know that? Do you know the claims you're making is not even in the older scripts? The Son of Mary was never seen as God, there are Christians who don't even believe that, yet alone believe he was killed on a Cross so that is just like the Qur'an. There is no such thing as a Koran, you people are ignorant to the core!
@The3in1trinity Then you explain who The Son of Mary is talking about here: BIBLE:
John 20: 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY Father, and MY Father; and to MY God, and YOUR God."
in That alone he said "MY GOD" meaning he has a god and he is not God! He is very specific here saying and showing he is not God! You want more proof from your Bible?
@The3in1trinity Bible: Act 2:22 KJV - Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:"
IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS "JESUS OF NAZAREH, A MAN" it does not say "A GOD" You want more proof?
@The3in1trinity BIBLE: "Num 23:19 KJV - God [IS] NOT A MAN, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?" What part of that don't you get? Now you all can stop saying The Son of Mary was in the Old Testament because I just proved by your bible he was a MAN and it says God is not a Man! What part of that don't you get? The Son of Mary was the Son of Man! Not Allah!
@rahim4411 1Tim 3:16 says God was manifest in the Flesh. Every Christian understands an eternal being is not a human creation, but became one as a Savior to the world....also the Son of Man is a title referring to OT prophecy in Daniel 7 as the one who has all power, authority, honor for everlasting...who shares the throne with the Ancient of Days. John 8:58 Jesus declared to be the Most High God! So Worship Him or reject His claim
@ssuperbill2 first off it doesn't say JESUS IS GOD! God manifested in flesh? What is the Hebrew term? Now where around that sentence does it support that Jesus is god, so stop using that. show me where Jesus himself said "I AM GOD WORSHIP ME", for everytime you show me I can show you two times where he said he wasn't a god and showed where he submitted to a God and said he HAS A GOD TO WORSHIP! Why would God Worship himself as a God? lol
@ssuperbill2 I'm in New York where are you? I will debate you in front personally and will give you the shocker of your life. And we will video it and put it on U Tube and show the world, I have a shocker that will put to rest this Jesus is god nonsense!
@rahim4411 Jesus obviously wasn't "a follower of Christ" He WAS CHRIST! 2nd Scripture is twisted by taking one verse out of context...If Jesus was claiming God was in existence before Abraham then why did this piss off the leaders enough to kill him for this statement? He Himself claimed to be I-AM! and for blasphemy they wanted to kill Him no other reason! Jesus has relationship with the Father who is Spirit and they are both one seen hundreds of times in OT and NT.
@ssuperbill2 Elah/Elohim told Moses he was "I AM" Jesus never said he was I AM, show me in your Bible wher he said he was actually I AM! and I know the verse you're going to try to pull off as I AM but when you do it, I am going to embarrass you because you don't know the scriptures, you are brained washed and don't even think on your own. so go ahead do it! Again I will debate you in public !!!
@rahim4411 obviously your goal is not to reason or consider scriptures outside of the Quran...I asked why the pharisees accused Jesus of blasphemy after Jesus claimed to be I-AM John 8:58 and you come back with how smart you are and how good of a debater you are....you want to claim a Jesus that never existed outside of the Quran and yet you won't address the historical account of Jesus.
@The3in1trinity The Son of Mary never called himself Jesus, and he never called the Creator God/dog He called the creator Eloi/Elah which is synonymous to Allah, Elah and Allah looks and sounds alike but both words don't sound nor look like the word God which is European Caucasian word! I am not following them I am following the history before the Caucasians came on the scene!
@The3in1trinity Bible: Act 2:22 KJV - Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs...."
If God had to Approve The Son of Mary's actions then how in the heck could he be God, equality with power? If he was God he wouldn't need God's approval because he would be God. LOL See yall don't even comprehend your own book, keep listening to those boot licking preachers!
@rahim4411 Jesus didn't come 2 boast. He came 2 save sinners by dying on the cross in our place. JOHN 10:30. JOHN 20:28-31. HEBREWS 1:1-14. HEBREWS 2:1-18. JOHN 3:16-36. JOHN 12:27-50. PHILIPPIANS 2:5-11...ISAIAH 48:12-17...1 GOD IN 3 PERSONS - FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT...
@mhdmoh THE FUNNY thing is Jesus never died in their bible if they would read and study their Bible they would know he didn't die, nothing calculates right, and the four gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John don't even add up. See they don't know Allah forgives all sins except making partners with Allah, and Jesus pbuh didn't do that, Christians did! You are right and exact. Now christians don't know but the Hebrew doesn't talk about none of that stuff! lol hahahah
@mhdmoh The original sin was made up by the Catholic church to control people under a psycho hypnotic brainwashing! If Adam caused the original sin and Jesus died for man's sin then there shouldn't be any sin to repent for and man should be able to live any way they want! If Christians are under grace and not Law then what are you doing good deeds for ? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!!
@mhdmoh That was beautifully said. ORIGINAL SIN IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS! if the bible tells you twice "NO MAN CAN TAKE THE BURDEN OF ANOTHER MAN" meaning taking the sin of another man then the original sin is a lie! Adam was a man according to the Bible. The Quran doesn't mention an original sin and put it on mankind! That's like me committing a crime I get away and my brother doing time for me? LOL even if we are twins he won't go to jail lol
@mhdmoh I haven't accepted it. But don't be a drama queen now, you know damn well how unfair, stubborn and capricious Allah of the Quran is. He goes like, "it is impossible for me not to be unjust, but whoever doesn't worship me the way I like it deserves eternal torture, because apparently, genocide, rape etc etc are nothing next to polytheism, which is, apparently, a deeply evil act, cause it makes me jealous".
@athanasiadis24 Have you read and studied the bible? AND YOU WANNA TRY AND Talk about Allah in the Qur'an? Your bible God tells men to kill women and men cut the babies from the bellies of the women and for the victors to take the young girls for themselves. Now show me in the Qur'an allah talks like that to Muhammad pbuh to tell the people.
@rahim4411 There is no chance in the universe any Christian will do this and you know it. Christians have rejected the doctrine of the Old Testament almost entirely. Jesus himself altered it.
@athanasiadis24 Also Jesus pbuh told the people to REPENT! That doesn't require getting on a cross to die for people bro. People are talking on emotions and not actual studying, that's why I am so glad i left the church. Thank you Allah for that!
@rahim4411 U would b wise 2 take ur own advice + do some STUDYING of ur own!!! Obviously u didn't read the Scriptures or u read without understanding. ISAIAH 9:6-7. ISAIAH 48:12-17. JOHN 3:16-36. JOHN 12:27-50. HEBREWS 1:1-14. HEBREWS 2:9. PSALM 22. JOHN 20:28-31. allah can't save u. ONLY Jesus has the authority 2 save. Jesus has been given all authority by His Father. My friend! U clearly have never understood that Jesus was sent by His Father 2 die 4 our sins. U r being deceived. Jesus saves!
@The3in1trinity I tell you what lets debate in PUBLIC! lets stop the UTube games. See you christians running around saying I aint this and that, lets debate in public! I can't get not one of you so called intelligent Christians to do it out in the open. I will show people what's really going on. I will show you my scholarship. After I have shown you the verses in your own bible you still deny, if one Says he isn't God and you're claiming he is then something is wrong.
@The3in1trinity Allah has already saved me LOL When I was down and out I called on Allah and my life got better and it's still good! I didn't call on so called God or so called Jesus. And you keep right on calling that man Jesus and that's not his name. SMH
@The3in1trinity WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE DEITY THAT THE SON OF MARY CALLED ON? SINCE ALLAH CAN'T SAVE ME TELL ME FROM THE ARAMAIC SCRIPT NOT ENGLISH LETS SEE HOW SMART YOU ARE!
Howbeit when HE, the Spirit of truth, is come, HE will guide you into all truth: for HE shall not speak of HIMSELF; but whatsoever HE shall hear, [that] shall HE speak: and HE will shew you things to come."
There are six he’s and one word himself, showing these words are masculine pronouns. THE SON SAID A MAN WAS TO COME AND HEBREWS WERE TO FOLLOW.
@The3in1trinity I'LL DEBATE YOU I WILL COME TO YOUR CHURCH AND DEBATE YOU AND I WILL BRING MY PEOPLE!!! WHERE DO YOU WANNA DEBATE?
If The Son of Mary is God by your doctrine show me where he said "I JESUS AM GOD WORSHIP ME". Show it to me, don't tell me I AM, and Emanuel and all this unclear crap, if he was god he would of said it, God made it clear he was God and to worship him only! So The Son of Mary could do the same thing!
@rahim4411 I'LL DEBATE YOU I WILL COME TO YOUR CHURCH AND DEBATE YOU AND I WILL BRING MY PEOPLE!!! WHERE DO YOU WANNA DEBATE?
If The Son of Mary is God by your doctrine show me where he said "I JESUS AM GOD WORSHIP ME". Show it to me, don't tell me I AM, and Emanuel and all this unclear crap,
_ Hi there. I would like to ask why is it necessary for GOD to make such a claim, is it because man is ignorant that christ MUST say those exact phrases, please elaborate as I think deedats point was moot!
@MTLBOBIRAS YOU'RE BIBLE ISN'T WRITTEN BY GOD IT'S WRITTEN BY MEN WITH COLLECTIONS OF LITERATURE ALONG WITH THE OLD TESTAMENT TO MAKE UP A BOOK! You tell me why did the Scholars take out some books? If God wrote that book who gave men the authority to remove books? One bible is 73 books, another 66, another 80, then the Ethiopian bible is 81 books. There are Bibles in the east that has none of the doctrine you christians in the west have!
@MTLBOBIRAS LOL See the point is I never said Allah wrote the Qur'an you said God wrote your Bible not me! Muhammad pbuh was inspired to write the Qur'an by Allah through the angel Gabriel just like Allah gave inspiration to Moses, Yeshu'a Son of Mary, etc. The bible New Testament were done by people that were not eyewitnesses. Matthew , Mark, Luke and John didn't live in the time of Jesus.
@rahim4411 LOL See the point is I never said Allah wrote the Qur'an you said God wrote your Bible not me! Muhammad pbuh was inspired to write the Qur'an by Allah through the angel Gabriel just like Allah gave inspiration to Moses, Yeshu'a Son of Mary, etc. The bible New Testament were done by people that were not eyewitnesses. Matthew , Mark, Luke and John didn't live in the time of Jesus.
-Again Please answer the original Question, Stop side stepping, Your a Phony just like Deedat was!
@MTLBOBIRAS The disciples themselves didn't witness the so called death of Jesus because THEY FLED! Remember that? Why do you think they dam near jumped outta their skin when Jesus came to them in the UPPER ROOM? because THEY WERE NOT EYE WITNESSES! Not even his mother the Bible says SHE STOOD AFAR" Yet you have pictures of her in the world where she is right under his feet! smh
@rahim4411 LOL See the point is I never said Allah wrote the Qur'an you said God wrote your Bible not me! Muhammad pbuh was inspired to write the Qur'an by Allah through the angel Gabriel just like Allah gave inspiration to Moses, Yeshu'a Son of Mary, etc. The bible New Testament were done by people that were not eyewitnesses. Matthew , Mark, Luke and John didn't live in the time of Jesus.
-Don't educate, answer the Original question Mr.Scholar
@rahim4411 You tell me why did the Scholars take out some books? If God wrote that book who gave men the authority to remove books? One bible is 73 books, another 66, another 80, then the Ethiopian bible is 81 books. There are Bibles in the east that has none of the doctrine you christians in the west have!
-This is the stupidest comment you have posted, that is baloney just like the words that foam from your mouth, old boy! The message in each and everyone of those books,same: Jesus son of GOD
@MTLBOBIRAS I know your point is moot!!! YOu don't know anything about the Bible !!! You tell me how is there four different versions of the Bible and they don't match up. Here's my video put it in the search and watch this. Then you come back and tell me what's what!
QURAN RAHIM VS TRUTHTEACH 3010 PART 2 <----that's my video I show the 4 different bibles now you
-Ok, Please explain in detail, that is what I asked
YOu don't know anything about the Bible!!
- According to who,you? LOL Ok. But you do, yes? Self proclaimed Christian? Please stay on topic and answer the original question. Can you do that or would you like me to re-ask the question?
You tell me how is there four different versions of the Bible and they don't match up. Here's my video put it in the search and watch this. Then you come back and tell me what's what!
QURAN RAHIM VS TRUTHTEACH 3010 PART 2 <----that's my video I show the 4 different bibles now you
----- Again this is not what I asked you,Why mislead? I asked you,Why is it important to MUSLIMS that GOD makes such a statement, I AM GOD,WORSHIP ME.In the Gospels? That was the question I am waiting!!
@mhdmoh Since the Old Testament, there had to be a blood sacrifice of an animal for sins to be forgiven. The sacrifice of Jesus was sufficient for all mankind. He has given people the opportunity to enter Heaven in this way.
But, you knew very well what Jesus taught of killing, adultery, theft etc, but instead chose to mention that he allowed all this somehow, in spite of this being a flat out lie.
@athanasiadis24 First off, Jesus pbuh never came for ALL MANKIND, he specifically said twice to make it clear "I COME ONLY FOR THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL" Twice he said it, what part of that don't you understand? you do know what the word ONLY MEANS right ? You do know that the gentiles were everyone except the Hebrew Israelites right? He didn't come for the Arab, he didn't come for the Egyptian, Semaritian, Libyan etc only the Hebrews!
@rahim4411 If you are referring to Matthew 10:16 and Matthew 15:24 they are both taken COMPLETELY out of context.
In one case Jesus means pretty much the opposite of what he says and in the other case he just tells his students “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. 6 Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel."
And since these are the only two verses that I found mentioning the "lost sheep of Israel", this was a HUGE hoax.
@rahim4411 I don't see why you're doing this. And it's not amusing either, it's just stupid. I mean what I wrote. If you disagree, say why, I do not care for anyone's "huh?".
@mhdmoh "So if I believe in Jesus as a god or a "Saviour" then I may kill, rap, steel, ect and My beloved savior would free me out of sins....."
The reason why Christians believe that Jesus died is so that they would get rid of original sin. You know very well what Jesus taught about murder, rape, theft etc, but your blatant, flat-out dishonesty wouldn't allow you to say it, huh.
@mhdmoh So the moon carrying a scratch is sufficient, conclusive evidence that it was Muhammad who "split" it? How can you expect not to be mocked after this?
By the way "split" means "divide, tear" and under no circumstances does it mean, "scratch". And no, the moon was never divided or torn apart in case you're wondering.
There's Japanese folklore that says that Miyamoto Musashi pierced mountains with his sword. If I find a mountain with a hole (I have) , INEVITABLY it must have been him, eh?
Sir, it is your understanding of the atonement which is bull shit. If you believe in Jesus and give yourself to Him in faith, He not only forgives you of your sins, but transforms you into a new creation, and you will not desire to kill, rape, steal, or anything abominable to God. The grace and forgiveness Jesus offers is not freedom TO sin, it is freedom FROM sin. His followers must not do such things. Jesus says REPENT, which means to turn away from sin. Only He can forgive u though.
If Jesus while on earth said, "I Am God, Worship Me", then he is not God. Only other reference verses in the Holy Bible about his words and teachings that affirm and justify Jesus is God.
Analogy: If I were descended to ants world and transformed into an ant image, I would not say, I'm a human because visibly I'm bearing an ant image and no single ant would believe me.. Only my words and teachings can justify in ants world that I'm human...
MrMarMans 1 month ago
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islamic beliefs and other unbeliever has veiled eyes that is why they can not see that Jesus Christ is the one true God in the flesh(Son). Their understanding is only in the physical and not on the spiritual realm.
zedrev01 1 month ago
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zedrev01 1 month ago
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1.You are correct Allah { god } of the Quran has no child.
But the God of the {KJV} Bible has a begotten son { Jesus }=GOD.
2.All mortal men have sin Jesus did not sin he is not mortal he is God.
3.Jesus did dye on the cross and rose again the 3 day.
He is the living God of the { KJB } and will return again to destroy the antichrist
believeonetime 1 month ago
jesus never said to worship him but said follow his teaching with faith,,
he is son of almighty god as part
thats why to compare with father and son is foolish
you uploaded is most basterds
shyamal79 2 months ago
There are at many prophecies for the Messiah that have not been fulfilled yet. When they are fulfilled in their entirety...then all people will be believe...including the Jews. There is no reason to speculate if Jesus was the messiah at this time as it is obvious that famine, war and pestilence are still on earth. When creation is completed through the coming of messiah everyone will bow down to him, no matter who he turns out to be as all creation will be completed.
yearofglory 2 months ago
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youneekk 3 months ago
Jesus was also a muslim pbuh he wasn't a christian because that word came after he was gone in Antioch by the sarcastic words of King Aggripa to Paul who accepted that false misnor! Jesus was a Jew/Hebrew and that's not a faith either it's a bloodline and he also used the words Allah/Elah, As Salamu Alaiykum/peace be upon you etc, you christians don't say Allah nor As Salaamu Alaiykum. He was a man, how can you debase the Creator to a lower man who deficates and urinate filth?
rahim4411 3 months ago
@ssuperbill2 Who did Jesus call on when he was on that cross? He called on Eloi/Elah/Elohim! Surely if he was God he wouldn't have let them put him on a cross, nor he would of ate honey comb and broil fish, and use the bathroom etc!
BIBLE: Mar 15:34 "And at the ninth hour JESUS CRIED with a loud voice, saying, ELOI, ELOI, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? "
So he didn't use the word God and he called on the Creator LMAO! go and STUDY
rahim4411 3 months ago
@ssuperbill2 Now if you really wanna get funky, MELCHIZEDEK had NO MOTHER NOR A FATHER Hebrews 7:3, that's even better than Jesus also, because Jesus had a mother! Jesus himself said GET AWAY FROM ME YE THAT WORK INIQUITIES! because a man said "HAVEN'T WE CAST OUT DEVILS IN YOUR NAME? " Jesus himself get away because you're not suppose to call on him for anything it's Elah/Elohim who you are suppose to call on! Proof?
rahim4411 3 months ago
@ssuperbill2 Go read your Bible and God said "THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD AND THERE IS NONE ELSE" What part of that don't you Christians don't understand? NONE means NONE ELSE! So how in the heck can Jesus be God? One doesn't mean two! And to speak about that God Manifest himself into flesh, that could of meant Adam, because He created Adam out of the ground and blew his ruah/spirit into Adam, Ruah in Hebrew and Arabic means spirit!
rahim4411 3 months ago
@ssuperbill2 You're a liar, John 8:58 does not say that Jesus declared himself to be the Most High, it says this:
BIBLE: John 8:58 "Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am."
Elohim/Elah is I AM and he states that to Moses books, that's the creater not Jesus! Jesus is simply saying there was a creator or deity before Abraham who Abraham also worshipped! You people try to take qoutes from the bible and try to twist them not on me you're not!
rahim4411 3 months ago
You still fail to answer. Show a verse where jesus said "I am God" or "worship me" like God said in Quran 5:72, 21:98, 1:2-5 and many more. What you did is just playing with the verse and putting your prediction and thought
bornwarrior07 3 months ago
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Rev 1:18 "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive forevermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."
JesusisLord685 4 months ago
26 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw the signs I performed but because you ate the loaves and had your fill. 27 Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.” 28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?” 29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”
JesusisLord685 4 months ago
0 So they asked him, “What sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do? 31 Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’[a]” 32 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”
JesusisLord685 4 months ago
First, I have not deleted anyone's comments. Those have been removed by people who hit the spam button.
Second, Thomas bowed before Jesus and called him LORD and GOD (John 20:28). Jesus did not rebuke him. Jesus attributed the name of God to himself (John 8:58) and the Pharisees sought to stone him for the crime of blasphemy.
Third, God was clearly not calling Moses God in Exodus 7:1, he said "like a god." Jesus on the other hand said it of himself, "Before Abraham was I AM!"
YeshElsm 4 months ago
@YeshElsm all these vague verses you have quoted, if for sake of argument, I admit they r saying what u think they are, then my question is to you why non of the other Gospels recorded them? why all vague verses I am the alpha n omega, I am the way, I and God are one, I am this n that...always comes from Gospel of John? which was the last Gospel was written nearly 100 years after the time......if Jesus really had spoken something like that why MARK, LUKE, MATTHEW didn't record them?
halakukhan 1 month ago
He Was Not GOD Himself... In The Old Testament GOD Tells Moses, 'I Have Made You A GOD To Pharoah', Why Don't You Say Moses Is GOD??? GOD Gave All Prophets The Power To Forgive Sins While They Walked The Earth, They Were GOD's Representatives... Jesus Did Not Allow People To Worship Him, In Fact He Didn't Even Want The Rich Man To Call Him Good, But He Will Let You Worship Him??? C'mon!... Why Are You Deleting Peoples Comments??? Because They Don't Support Your Claim??? That's Not Righteous...
PeechuSalaam 4 months ago
@PeechuSalaam tired silly Deedat arguments that have already been refuted, I see you are black I guess you want to be good black raisin head ibid for the Arab Mahdi since your religion teaches the Arab's are the supreme race, and the Quraysh will rule the world one day.
ceeker248 3 months ago
@ceeker248 Deedat Has Been Refuted By Who??? Show Me??? A Christian??? Christians Cannot Refute Anyone, Because Your Whole Religion Is Based On Lies... No I'm Not Black, What Does Race Have To Do With Anything??? I Don't Follow 'Islam' Either, I Follow GOD's Truth And Reject All Falsehood... Peace... Arabs Are Not Race, And I Don't Follow Hadiths...
PeechuSalaam 3 months ago
@PeechuSalaam Anyone who has studied logic and theology laughs at Deedat and the rest of these Muslim's Du'at. Islam is not a environment fit for critical rational thinking, that 's why many of us apostatized from it. And anyway you just admitted you are not a real Muslim, your are a mubtadi so you are half way to the truth, Which god are you speaking of?
ceeker248 3 months ago
Christians Can Never Answer The Simple Question, 'Did Jesus Himself Say He Was GOD, Or Worship Me?', Because They Can't Say Yes, And If They Say No Then That Questions Their Religion. So They Choose To Go Through The Bible And Pick Out Verses Out Of Context That Seem To Them Are Supporting The Lie And Deception Of Jesus Being GOD... GOD Says In The Qur'an That This Is A Monsterous Lie... Jesus Will Deny All You Christians That Claim He Is GOD, (Matthew 7:21-23)... Christians Reply Respectfully..
PeechuSalaam 4 months ago
@PeechuSalaam - I will tell you flat out that Jesus did not say it and I am the one posted this video. At least, he did not say it in as many words as have been offered to us by the Imam in this video. We never claimed that he used those very words! Rather, we have claimed that Jesus (pbuh) attributed the name Yahweh to himself, that he forgave sins, that he allowed people to worship him, and that he could do none of these things if he were not God himself.
YeshElsm 4 months ago
@PeechuSalaam Islam makes people illogical that's why I left it. show me were the Quran say's Muhammad is that last prophet, that Allah is the same god as the God of the Bible, that that Muhammad is not a false prophet, that the the Sunnah is revelation, That you have to be a mujtahid to derive rulings from the Quran, that Allah is not the moon god? I could go on you know.. but think logical people can figure how stupid such a question is.
ceeker248 3 months ago
@ceeker248 Brother I'm Sorry You Been Lied To And Went From Worshiping The ONE GOD To Worshiping Three GODS(Trinity)... 'Islam' Is Not My Religion, My Religion Is The Original And Only Religion Accepted By The GOD Of Abraham, Total Devotion And Submission To GOD Alone. I Directly Worship GOD, No 'Jesus' Demon Needed... Peace...
PeechuSalaam 3 months ago
@PeechuSalaam Muhamamd is a not prophet, Allah of hijaz has always been a idol so was his daughter/wife Al-lat the black stone whom you kiss, allah is not one god, his partner is Muhammad, Abraham never set foot in Mecca did not build the pagan kabaa, Islam is a Arab supremest cult bent on world domination that the real GOD of Israel Yeweh will destroy when His Son Yeshua the Messiah returns to punish all the nations who opposed Israel like it says in the real Word of God the Bible.
ceeker248 3 months ago
@ceeker248 Like I Said Brother, I'm Sorry You Been Lied To And Now Worship A Trinity Of GOD's... You Should Have Stuck To The Qur'an Alone And Not Hadiths... Peace...
PeechuSalaam 3 months ago
@PeechuSalaam your statement show's you are ignorant of theology, there is no such theological concept of a "trinity of GOD's", were did you learn that from? I am not sure why so many Muslims choose to speak about topics that little knowledge of. Is that the way your deen teaches you to give dawah?
ceeker248 3 months ago
@ceeker248 Don't You Listen??? What Are You Trying To Prove By Using Arabic Words When Replying To Me??? I'm Not Arabic, I Speak English, And I Told You 'Islam' Is Not My Religion... Oh And I Got The Trinity Of GOD's Concept From You Christians, No Matter How You Put It You Worship Three Gods... Peace...
PeechuSalaam 3 months ago
@PeechuSalaam
Can any Muslims show me from the whole of the Holy Bible where did Jesus said I am not God & do not worship me. Show me the scripture from the Holy Bible.
Plus prove Muhammad is a prophet who appointed him a prophet. Who anointed him a prophet? Who declared him a prophet? Where is the witness?
manmohak1990 3 months ago
@manmohak1990 You Gotta Be Kidding Me... First Show Me Where 'Jesus' Says I Am GOD Or Worship Me And Then We Will Talk About Your Question... That Would Be Never...
PeechuSalaam 3 months ago
@PeechuSalaam what a illogical question, so are you saying the only way the Bible can communicate that Jesus is God is by quoting Him as saying the exact phase " I Am GOD Or Worship Me " , are you logically contestant with that rationale? Do you apply that logic to the Quran and Islamic creed?
ceeker248 3 months ago
@PeechuSalaam
Where i can make u a kid? U r a kid only. Jesus was worshipped.Thomas called My God & My Lord, he worshipped but Jesus never rebuked.refer Gospel of Jesus Christ. Secondly, SHOW ME A SINGLE VERSE JESUS SAID I AM NOT GOD DO NOT WORSHIP ME!!! CAN U DO THAT. Open your eyes & minds, repent & ask forgiveness from Jesus Christ the Lord & savior who is faultless & sinless.Allah likes sins from his own elected/chosen prophet now & in the future also sura 48:2 A sin liking god demi-allah.
manmohak1990 3 months ago
@manmohak1990 Brother You Sound Ridiculous... May GOD/ALLAH/ELOHIM Have Mercy On You And Guide One Day GOD Willing... Peace Be Upon You...
PeechuSalaam 3 months ago
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manmohak1990 3 months ago
@manmohak1990 "SHOW ME A SINGLE VERSE JESUS SAID I AM NOT GOD DO NOT WORSHIP ME!!!" is not the answer of question "where did Jesus said " I AM GOD" OR "WORSHIPED ME", like God said in Quran 5:72, 21:98, 1:2-5 and many more. Dont you not think it is very strange that a Holy book "Bible", where Christian claim that Jesus is God, but yet there can't be found a single verse where Jesus said that "I AM GOD" neither the word Bible is found in the book Bible. If yes, then i am very interested to see it
bornwarrior07 3 months ago
@bornwarrior07
I quote your word ", like God said in Quran 5:72, 21:98, 1:2-5 and many more Unquote. ALLAH DIDNOT SPEAK TO MUHAMMAD IN THE KORAN IT WAS ONLY ANGEL WHICH I CANNOT BELIEVE BECAUSE THE ANGEL TORTURED MUHAMMAD CAUGHT FORCEFULLY TO HIS NECK AND TOLD HIM TO READ/RECITE BUT THE ANGEL DID NOT GIVE HIM THE MATERIAL TO READ OR TO RECITE ANGEL DID NOT PRONOUNCE FROM HIS MOUTH TO RECITE. TOTALLY WRONG REVELATION. MUHAMMAD IS A SELF APPONTED PROPHET. NOBODY ANOINTED HIM AS A PROPHET.
manmohak1990 3 months ago
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I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins:
believeonetime 4 months ago
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LOOK JESUS SAID I AM HE GOD /// A BIG SURPRISE TO MUSLIMS
John 8:24
King James Version (KJV) 24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE , ye shall die in your sins
believeonetime 5 months ago
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I WAS BIGGEST ENEMY OF ISLAM !
I WAS RAISED AS A CHRISTIAN AND PROUD TO SAY I SERVED AS CHRISTIAN FOR 53 YEARS.
A BIBLIC SCHOLAR OF OVER 17 BIBLES IN TOTAL
WROTE THESIS ON GOSPEL OF MATHEWS IN 1997 IN KANSAS UNIVERSITY.
BEFORE I WENT ONE STEP AHEAD FROM BIBLE TO QURRAN I SPENT 35 YEARS OF RESEARCH. BELIEVE ME MINE AND YOURS JESUS IS THE ONE IN GODS QURRAN
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TheDanmathews 5 months ago
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this is white lie. Jesus was a prophet (messenger) of God. He called God as father but he never told that he was God.
aminul8427 5 months ago
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aminul8427 5 months ago
It is white lie. Jesus was a prophet (messenger) of God. He called God as father but he never told that he was God.
aminul8427 5 months ago
Because I know scriptures that has Jesus saying"My father is the only TRUE GOD" (JOHN 17:3) and Jesus refering to his Father as his God (JOHN 20:17)
czyztko 6 months ago
Can you fools quote a scripture that Jesus actually says "I AM God"...or "Worship me"
czyztko 6 months ago
Jesus aint God...he's the SON of God...idiots
czyztko 6 months ago
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youneekk 7 months ago
lol
god with us? when?
the text can be considered to be past tense and this was an event that would happen during the life of Ahaz; it was to be a sign for Ahaz. This was to happen long before Jesus may have existed
this is the better translation
"Behold, the young woman has conceived-[is with child)-and beareth a son and calleth his name Immanuel"
so it wasnt JESUS lol
be honest christians
sakeranz 7 months ago
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youneekk 7 months ago
Great video! i love the constant use of scripture! awesome!
militantx0660 7 months ago
You Christians are feed doctrine that he is yet you can't provide any proof he is, stop taking verses and trying to twist them into saying he is. I have shown you from your own bible where Jesus said "MY GOD, AND YOUR GOD" he is clearly stating he has a GOD THAT HE WORSHIP. Why would Jesus fall on his face to pray, crying to Eloi? If he was God he wouldn't have prayed. That means he is not equal to the creator nor is he the creator!
rahim4411 8 months ago
@rahim4411 ISAIAH 9:6-7. ISIAH 48:12-17. jOHN 1:1-34. HEBREWS 1:1-14. PSALM 8:5...
The3in1trinity 7 months ago
QURAN RAHIM VS TRUTHTEACH 3010 PART 2 <---Here is my video, for you Christians why is there 4 different bibles then one of them don't even have the word JESUS in it! anyone of you can debate me in the public, so I can show you how brainwashed and ignorant you are. Stop trying to debate here, I AM CALLING ANY OF YOU CHRISTIANS OUT! If you claim Jesus is God but can't show us where he specifically said he is clearly then U are confused!
rahim4411 8 months ago
@rahim4411 - If you are serious about a public debate then please make the challange here: DrOakley1689's YouTube Chanel - or - Call 1-877-753-3341 "The Dividing Line" Most Tuesday mornings at
11:00am MST and most Thursday afternoons at 4:00 MST. Thank you for your courage and I look forward to hearing you.
YeshElsm 8 months ago
@YeshElsm Peace, it seems like that is a Radio phone show am I correct? Thank you for the invite, but I am talking face to face with christians and muslims or anyone in the audience. What I have to show would be in front of the Dr. and Christain believers. Again thank you for the invite.
rahim4411 8 months ago
@rahim4411: It is a radio show and I am certain that @DrOakley1689 would be interested in your call. He welcomes any well informed, respectful and consistent argument. Peace to you.
YeshElsm 8 months ago
@YeshElsm Peace be upon you, I can accept that then, and I will definitely give a call.
rahim4411 8 months ago
@rahim4411 ~ WHY MAKE A CHALLENGE AND NOT BACK IT UP ???!!! WHO CARES IF IT IS IN PERSON OR ON A RADIO SHOW !!!???
TYPICAL muslim COWARD ~~ TALK THE TALK~~~ BUT CAN NOT WALK THE WALK !!
YOU ARE A COWARD IF YOU CAN NOT EVEN CALL A RADIO SHOW !!!!
denotheresa 4 months ago
@YeshElsm OH I will call that number though just to chime in and give respect to you, for offering.
rahim4411 8 months ago
@YeshElsm If you are serious about a public debate then please make the challange here: DrOakley1689's YouTube Chanel - or - Call 1-877-753-3341 "The Dividing Line" Most Tuesday mornings at
11:00am MST and most Thursday afternoons at 4:00 MST. Thank you for your courage and I look forward to hearing you.
-Please do page me if this guy calls I would really like to see this, I am counting on it, his arguements & claims are Bogus, Like deedats claims were based on manipulated scripture.
thank you
MTLBOBIRAS 8 months ago
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youneekk 8 months ago
@mhdmoh Mohammad DIDN'T perform any miracles. Mohammad is a false prophet. There is 1 Saviour who is Jesus Christ the Son of God. U r brainwashed. Islam DOESN'T encourage Muslims 2 question the koran + most Muslims r happy 2 just believe what theyr told. God's Word DOESN'T SUPPORT the koran. The koran is clearly NOT FROM GOD. It contradicts God's Word + calls God's record of His Son a lie. UR koran SHOWS THAT Mohammad PERFORMED NO MIRACLES. Show me these so-called miracles Muslims claim?
The3in1trinity 8 months ago
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@The3in1trinity Mohammad DIDN'T perform any miracles.
-Correct Mohammad is a false prophet.
-Correct
There is 1 Saviour who is Jesus Christ the Son of God.
-Correct U r brainwashed. Islam DOESN'T encourage Muslims 2 question the koran + most Muslims r happy 2 just believe what theyr told.
-Correct again as Islam is based on submission
God's Word DOESN'T SUPPORT the koran.
-Correct again as it is plagarized from the nerw and Old Gospels
MTLBOBIRAS 8 months ago
@The3in1trinity
The koran is clearly NOT FROM GOD.
-Not from the GOD that is in the New & old Testament
It contradicts God's Word
-Yes as Muhamed would change it to fulfill his day to day needs and heavy sexual appetite.
+ calls God's record of His Son a lie.
Yes, That would be the ultimate sin in islam if it acknowledged Christ as S.O.G Show me these so-called miracles Muslims claim?
-Well there is a part were he probably saw a luner eclipse and claimed the moon split in 2, too much opium
MTLBOBIRAS 8 months ago
@MTLBOBIRAS Having received a "friend request" from U, it seems strnge that u seem 2 think i am a Muslim. C my previous comments. I think u have just misread these other comments. I follow the Lord Jesus Christ who is the Son of God + God in the flesh...Ur brother in Christ Jesus...
The3in1trinity 7 months ago
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@The3in1trinity Having received a "friend request" from U, it seems strnge that u seem 2 think i am a Muslim. C my previous comments. I think u have just misread these other comments. I follow the Lord Jesus Christ who is the Son of God + God in the flesh...Ur brother in Christ Jesus...
Trinity: I am clearly aware of your status, all is Good, take care brother!
MTLBOBIRAS 7 months ago
hhhhh he is not a god hhhh hhhhh
Youzersef 8 months ago
This is the worst apology for Christ divinity I have heard so far...
TheTruthWanderer 8 months ago
@TheTruthWanderer - can you be more specific? What did you not like?
YeshElsm 8 months ago
@YeshElsm Are you the author?
TheTruthWanderer 8 months ago
@TheTruthWanderer - I produced the video but I am not the man on the radio.
YeshElsm 8 months ago
@YeshElsm It fails to address the question. “Where does Jesus says himself in the bible "I am God, worship me"? Yasin also makes the exception not to use the words of Mathew, Mark, Luke, John nor Paul; but of Jesus himself. This clearly is not verbatim in the bible. So the whole speech is a tangential argumentation.
TheTruthWanderer 8 months ago
@TheTruthWanderer - Yasim is right, Jesus does not say verbatim, "I am God, worship me!" So I guess he can keep his $5000. However, his question, when understood rightly, does have an answer. Jesus did say "I am God" in the language of the people who accused him of blasphemy. The evidence of this is that they attempted to stone him. This is irrefutable.
YeshElsm 8 months ago
@YeshElsm Irrefutable it is not. Yasin refutes it quite well indeed.
TheTruthWanderer 8 months ago
@TheTruthWanderer Ur comment is 1 of the worst rebuttals of this video. U have given no example. U make a statement without any evidence. The video gives plenty of example's of Jesus' divinity. Try watching the video again + reading the Scriptures quoted...
The3in1trinity 8 months ago
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TheTruthWanderer 8 months ago
@The3in1trinity It is not a "rebuttal" a rebuttal is a form of argumentation. This is a statement of opinion. I don’t need to present any "evidence" for it. You really need to learn the differences between a statement and an argument (rebuttal) to begin with and also a valid argument, an inductive argument and a deductive argument, etc., etc.
TheTruthWanderer 8 months ago
@TheTruthWanderer Let's stay on topic: C my previous comment + watch video again. U clearly had nothing 2 say that could refute what the video was saying. Try not 2 make statements without facts. The video gives facts...
The3in1trinity 7 months ago
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TheTruthWanderer 7 months ago
@The3in1trinity The video is just a rant. For me a fact is an objective and verifiable observation; but if your standard of evidence and your definition of fact is that low, go ahead. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. You don't have evidence nor facts; what you have, is a belief. And you are free to believe anything you want; as stupid or as unreasonable as it may be...
TheTruthWanderer 7 months ago
@TheTruthWanderer ROMANS 1:16-32 shows both Tangible evidence + faith. ALL KNOW THAT GOD EXISTS. Stay blind my friend if u so choose...
The3in1trinity 7 months ago
@The3in1trinity Sure mate... you are free to belief in anything you like: UFO's; the Coran; the Bible; Harry Potter; that doesn’t make it true. That's why we live in a free country; founded upon secular principles. So we can be free from the oppression and tyranny of christian gods, kings, reverends and priests. In 30 years superstitious religions like Christianity and Islam, will be a minority. Cheers!
TheTruthWanderer 7 months ago
@mhdmoh I don't really care whether or not he did it with his sword, it just doesn't matter. All that matters to me is if you have any credible evidence besides that scratch (there are 100s of such scratches BTW), but you sort of refuse to answer me.
The article you offered me also has no proof besides a scratch and certain "eyewitnesses". I normally don't visit this website, it's so full of lies, desperation, stupidity and crap in general in every subject, from Christianity to science.
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
Mohammad had good motives, i think he really did create the quran in hopes to support God. However it was obvious he knew very little of the scriptures and also the theology. Christians ever since 1st AD have been documented to have worshiped Jesus. Just read anti-christian writings of that time, from Lucian, plinny, etc. this was ALL BEFORE THE BIBLE.
The Quran comes 600 years AFTER the Nicene creed, and it contained wrong descriptions of "The Son of God" and the trinity.
cisco19 8 months ago
@mhdmoh I watched the entire video. It speaks of a scientist who merely states that the moon is probably contracting and he tells us it's geologically "active". IRRELEVANT. He doesn't say anything that would even remotely indicate the moon having been cut in half by Muhammad.
To end this charade; do you have ANY evidence beside a scratch (=none whatsoever) that the moon was cut in half by Muhammad? I have nothing to watch from the video.
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
@mhdmoh "But I see you don't want to watch anything"
Spare me the typical Muslim ruse, "You're blind, you're misguided! You are dishonest, you don't want to see!"
Well I have seen that which you sent me, and it's a video of a scientist merely stating that the moon is and has been ACTIVE (I knew that), that it is perhaps shrinking and then a picture of the moon with a scratch on it. Not a single shred of evidence that Muhammad cut it in half.
Tell me what it is in the video that I keep missing.
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
@athanasiadis24 Well I have seen that which you sent me, and it's a video of a scientist merely stating that the moon is and has been ACTIVE (I knew that), that it is perhaps shrinking and then a picture of the moon with a scratch on it. Not a single shred of evidence that Muhammad cut it in half.
-He couldn't even save himself and was poisoned let alone split the moon, maybe he was high on opium and dreamt this, but there is 0 proof, I mean 0 Proof the moon was split in half, that is a croc!
MTLBOBIRAS 8 months ago
@MTLBOBIRAS This "moon splitting" thing was really one of the most ridiculous assertions I've heard when it comes to completely non-existent Islamic "miracles". It's fascinating how people can deny the most basic and most obvious axioms of logic when they desperately wish to believe things for no good reason whatsoever...
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
@MTLBOBIRAS U don't know how to read Hebrew You're lying. I tell you what debate me in Public, the title will be "IS MUHAMMAD FORETOLD IN THE BIBLE" and I will have the Hebrew version and will show in from Many Hebrew sources not just one. Deal? I know you're wrong because I have it. It says "HIKUMBI TU BIKIM MI KULLI MUHAMMADIM" IN Hebrew. "IM" is plural for royalty of Respect Meaning "HE IS ALTOGETHER LOVELY ..." Which is put in place of Muhammad's name I can prove it.
rahim4411 8 months ago
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@rahim4411 "HIKUMBI TU BIKIM MI KULLI MUHAMMADIM" IN Hebrew. "IM" is plural for royalty of Respect Meaning "HE IS ALTOGETHER LOVELY ..." Which is put in place of Muhammad's name I can prove it.
-Congrats on the partial truth, but it is NOT refering to Mohamed, matter of fact you can not prove anything. You know for a fact there is NO MENTION OF MOHAMED in any GOSPEL new or old.........Have Good Day!
MTLBOBIRAS 8 months ago
I tell you what debate me in Public, the title will be "IS MUHAMMAD FORETOLD IN THE BIBLE" and I will have the Hebrew version and will show in from Many Hebrew sources not just one. Deal? I know you're wrong because I have it. It says "HIKUMBI TU BIKIM MI KULLI MUHAMMADIM" IN Hebrew. "IM" is plural for royalty of Respect Meaning "HE IS ALTOGETHER LOVELY ..." Which is put in place of Muhammad's name I can prove it.
why dont you join me on brotherpetedotcom on the forum, you can yell no limits
MTLBOBIRAS 8 months ago
@MTLBOBIRAS Dude do you know what PUBLIC MEAN? I don't want to go on another site, I want to do it in public so I can show the different Bibles to people in the flesh LOL I have documents that will blow you out the frame and have you scratching your head! DEBATE ME IN PUBLIC!! I can set it up and have a place to do it, the symposium will be good for the people
rahim4411 8 months ago
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@rahim4411 Dude do you know what PUBLIC MEAN? I don't want to go on another site, I want to do it in public so I can show the different Bibles to people in the flesh LOL I have documents that will blow you out the frame and have you scratching your head! DEBATE ME IN PUBLIC!! I can set it up and have a place to do it, the symposium will be good for the people
_DUDETTE, Answer the question then publicly, I am waiting
MTLBOBIRAS 8 months ago
@mhdmoh You understood nothing of my premise:
Even IF the scientist says in the video that it COULD be the moon having been torn apart (which is still ridiculous), it's STILL a theory, and STILL there's no evidence that it was Muhammad who did it with his sword. I feel stupid even when I mention this.
ALL the scientist says btw is that the moon is active, and has been active for millions of years.
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
@mhdmoh
...Let me also ask you this: would you think it is fair if I started to criticize all Muslims, and completely slander Islam because of monsters like Osama Bin Laden? The proof of whether or not a religion is true in what it claims is not in the individual actions of people who identify themselves with that religion. No, truth must be decided upon based on examining the claims of the religion itself. Friend, do you know what the Holy Injil is? Have you read it?
Grambo4 8 months ago
@mhdmoh
My friend, what do you think? The evils you have listed are examples of people who call themselves Christians who were in disobedience to Jesus Christ. One who is truly regenerated in Christ will not desire to kill other people. Even still, even as you are recreated in Christ, you still must choose to obey Him, and follow Him. He grants all who believe in Him eternal life, but He also calls them to die to themselves, and love their enemies, and pray for those who persecute them....
Grambo4 8 months ago
@mhdmoh The video is 8 minutes long, full of ramblings and pictures that seem somewhat random or irrelevant. There is no doubt whatsoever that the moon has never ever been cleft asunder. It's simple physics; had the moon been cut in two pieces even for brief seconds, the gravity of Earth would attract it immediately and lots of destructive stuff would take place.
Is there ANY evidence at all besides that scratch that the moon was torn apart by Muhammad? That's all I need to know.
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
@mhdmoh From what I can recall, the moon being torn apart was definitely not mentioned, and from what I can tell, no such thing took place 1400 years ago. It is just ridiculous.
What was it about the video that I missed?
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
See God of the Bible says "I AM GOD WORSHIP ME AND THERE IS NONE ELSE" So if Jesus is God he would of said the same thing, this is why we Muslims ask this. So SHOW US WHERE JESUS SAID I AM GOD WORSHIP ME! We are getting this from your Bible yall make it seem like we are getting this from thin air! Jesus and God are not equal.
rahim4411 8 months ago
@rahim4411 ISAIAH 48:12-17. ISAIAH 61:1. HEBREWS 1:1-14. JOHN 10:30. MATTHEW 26:63-66. JOHN 14:1-26. JOHN 1:1-34. HEBREWS 2:9-18. Jesus makes it clear who He is - the Son of God + the Saviour of the world. The ppl who CAN'T understand this r ppl who call God's record of His Son a lie. If u seek truth then u need 2 read God's Word. There is no truth in the koran. God's Word DOESN'T SUPPORT the koran. The koran calls God a liar!!! 2TIMOTHY 3:1-17...1 SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST WHO IS GOD IN THE FLESH...
The3in1trinity 8 months ago
@The3in1trinity Wrong! Songs of Solomon talks about Muhammad pbuh 5:16! Read the Hebrew version. If you can't read hebrew how can you talk on a matter you yourself don't even understand? I know who Isa/Yeshu'a the Son of Mary is, You christians are calling him by his wrong name anyway, there is no such person as Jesus in the those times, PROVE IT TO ME! i HAVE A BIBLE WITH ME RIGHT NOW WHERE THE WORD JESUS DON'T EXIST!
rahim4411 8 months ago
@rahim4411 Wrong! Songs of Solomon talks about Muhammad pbuh 5:16! Read the Hebrew version. If you can't read hebrew how can you talk on a matter you yourself don't even understand?
- I can read most of it and can tell you 100% for fact there is NO mention of Muhammed in that song, as a matter of fact there is 0 mention of Muhammed clearly by name in any of the gospels New and OLD, that is 100% fact.
MTLBOBIRAS 8 months ago
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rahim4411 8 months ago
@MTLBOBIRAS Now being you can read Hebrew you put it here what it says in Hebrew just like I did of 5:16" His mouth is most sweet; yea, HE IS ALTOGETHER LOVELY. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.'
Put it in Roman phonetic form like I did please if you can truly read it.
rahim4411 8 months ago
@The3in1trinity The son of Mary also said a man would come after him, and his name would be Ahmed! This is in Hebrew and the word Muhammad pbuh comes from the word Ahmed, do you know that? Do you know the claims you're making is not even in the older scripts? The Son of Mary was never seen as God, there are Christians who don't even believe that, yet alone believe he was killed on a Cross so that is just like the Qur'an. There is no such thing as a Koran, you people are ignorant to the core!
rahim4411 8 months ago
@The3in1trinity Then you explain who The Son of Mary is talking about here: BIBLE:
John 20: 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto MY Father, and MY Father; and to MY God, and YOUR God."
in That alone he said "MY GOD" meaning he has a god and he is not God! He is very specific here saying and showing he is not God! You want more proof from your Bible?
rahim4411 8 months ago
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@The3in1trinity Bible: Act 2:22 KJV - Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:"
IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS "JESUS OF NAZAREH, A MAN" it does not say "A GOD" You want more proof?
rahim4411 8 months ago
@The3in1trinity BIBLE: "Num 23:19 KJV - God [IS] NOT A MAN, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?" What part of that don't you get? Now you all can stop saying The Son of Mary was in the Old Testament because I just proved by your bible he was a MAN and it says God is not a Man! What part of that don't you get? The Son of Mary was the Son of Man! Not Allah!
rahim4411 8 months ago
@rahim4411 1Tim 3:16 says God was manifest in the Flesh. Every Christian understands an eternal being is not a human creation, but became one as a Savior to the world....also the Son of Man is a title referring to OT prophecy in Daniel 7 as the one who has all power, authority, honor for everlasting...who shares the throne with the Ancient of Days. John 8:58 Jesus declared to be the Most High God! So Worship Him or reject His claim
ssuperbill2 3 months ago
@ssuperbill2 first off it doesn't say JESUS IS GOD! God manifested in flesh? What is the Hebrew term? Now where around that sentence does it support that Jesus is god, so stop using that. show me where Jesus himself said "I AM GOD WORSHIP ME", for everytime you show me I can show you two times where he said he wasn't a god and showed where he submitted to a God and said he HAS A GOD TO WORSHIP! Why would God Worship himself as a God? lol
rahim4411 3 months ago
@ssuperbill2 I'm in New York where are you? I will debate you in front personally and will give you the shocker of your life. And we will video it and put it on U Tube and show the world, I have a shocker that will put to rest this Jesus is god nonsense!
rahim4411 3 months ago
@rahim4411 Jesus obviously wasn't "a follower of Christ" He WAS CHRIST! 2nd Scripture is twisted by taking one verse out of context...If Jesus was claiming God was in existence before Abraham then why did this piss off the leaders enough to kill him for this statement? He Himself claimed to be I-AM! and for blasphemy they wanted to kill Him no other reason! Jesus has relationship with the Father who is Spirit and they are both one seen hundreds of times in OT and NT.
ssuperbill2 3 months ago
@ssuperbill2 Elah/Elohim told Moses he was "I AM" Jesus never said he was I AM, show me in your Bible wher he said he was actually I AM! and I know the verse you're going to try to pull off as I AM but when you do it, I am going to embarrass you because you don't know the scriptures, you are brained washed and don't even think on your own. so go ahead do it! Again I will debate you in public !!!
rahim4411 3 months ago
@rahim4411 obviously your goal is not to reason or consider scriptures outside of the Quran...I asked why the pharisees accused Jesus of blasphemy after Jesus claimed to be I-AM John 8:58 and you come back with how smart you are and how good of a debater you are....you want to claim a Jesus that never existed outside of the Quran and yet you won't address the historical account of Jesus.
ssuperbill2 3 months ago
@The3in1trinity The Son of Mary never called himself Jesus, and he never called the Creator God/dog He called the creator Eloi/Elah which is synonymous to Allah, Elah and Allah looks and sounds alike but both words don't sound nor look like the word God which is European Caucasian word! I am not following them I am following the history before the Caucasians came on the scene!
rahim4411 8 months ago
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@The3in1trinity Bible: Act 2:22 KJV - Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs...."
If God had to Approve The Son of Mary's actions then how in the heck could he be God, equality with power? If he was God he wouldn't need God's approval because he would be God. LOL See yall don't even comprehend your own book, keep listening to those boot licking preachers!
rahim4411 8 months ago
@rahim4411 Jesus didn't come 2 boast. He came 2 save sinners by dying on the cross in our place. JOHN 10:30. JOHN 20:28-31. HEBREWS 1:1-14. HEBREWS 2:1-18. JOHN 3:16-36. JOHN 12:27-50. PHILIPPIANS 2:5-11...ISAIAH 48:12-17...1 GOD IN 3 PERSONS - FATHER, SON, HOLY SPIRIT...
The3in1trinity 8 months ago
@The3in1trinity BIBLE: "Num 23:19 KJV - God [IS] NOT A MAN......?
From your own book!
rahim4411 8 months ago
@rahim4411 ISAIAH 9:6-7. HEBREWS 1:1-14. JOHN 10:30...
The3in1trinity 8 months ago
@mhdmoh THE FUNNY thing is Jesus never died in their bible if they would read and study their Bible they would know he didn't die, nothing calculates right, and the four gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John don't even add up. See they don't know Allah forgives all sins except making partners with Allah, and Jesus pbuh didn't do that, Christians did! You are right and exact. Now christians don't know but the Hebrew doesn't talk about none of that stuff! lol hahahah
rahim4411 8 months ago
@mhdmoh The original sin was made up by the Catholic church to control people under a psycho hypnotic brainwashing! If Adam caused the original sin and Jesus died for man's sin then there shouldn't be any sin to repent for and man should be able to live any way they want! If Christians are under grace and not Law then what are you doing good deeds for ? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!!
rahim4411 8 months ago
@mhdmoh That was beautifully said. ORIGINAL SIN IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS! if the bible tells you twice "NO MAN CAN TAKE THE BURDEN OF ANOTHER MAN" meaning taking the sin of another man then the original sin is a lie! Adam was a man according to the Bible. The Quran doesn't mention an original sin and put it on mankind! That's like me committing a crime I get away and my brother doing time for me? LOL even if we are twins he won't go to jail lol
rahim4411 8 months ago
@mhdmoh I haven't accepted it. But don't be a drama queen now, you know damn well how unfair, stubborn and capricious Allah of the Quran is. He goes like, "it is impossible for me not to be unjust, but whoever doesn't worship me the way I like it deserves eternal torture, because apparently, genocide, rape etc etc are nothing next to polytheism, which is, apparently, a deeply evil act, cause it makes me jealous".
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
@athanasiadis24 Have you read and studied the bible? AND YOU WANNA TRY AND Talk about Allah in the Qur'an? Your bible God tells men to kill women and men cut the babies from the bellies of the women and for the victors to take the young girls for themselves. Now show me in the Qur'an allah talks like that to Muhammad pbuh to tell the people.
rahim4411 8 months ago
@rahim4411 There is no chance in the universe any Christian will do this and you know it. Christians have rejected the doctrine of the Old Testament almost entirely. Jesus himself altered it.
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
@athanasiadis24 HUH? :-O
rahim4411 8 months ago
@athanasiadis24 Also Jesus pbuh told the people to REPENT! That doesn't require getting on a cross to die for people bro. People are talking on emotions and not actual studying, that's why I am so glad i left the church. Thank you Allah for that!
rahim4411 8 months ago
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@rahim4411 "Also Jesus pbuh told the people to REPENT! That doesn't require getting on a cross to die for people bro."
According to the Old Testament it takes more than to repent to have your sins forgiven from what I know.
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
@rahim4411 U would b wise 2 take ur own advice + do some STUDYING of ur own!!! Obviously u didn't read the Scriptures or u read without understanding. ISAIAH 9:6-7. ISAIAH 48:12-17. JOHN 3:16-36. JOHN 12:27-50. HEBREWS 1:1-14. HEBREWS 2:9. PSALM 22. JOHN 20:28-31. allah can't save u. ONLY Jesus has the authority 2 save. Jesus has been given all authority by His Father. My friend! U clearly have never understood that Jesus was sent by His Father 2 die 4 our sins. U r being deceived. Jesus saves!
The3in1trinity 8 months ago
@The3in1trinity I tell you what lets debate in PUBLIC! lets stop the UTube games. See you christians running around saying I aint this and that, lets debate in public! I can't get not one of you so called intelligent Christians to do it out in the open. I will show people what's really going on. I will show you my scholarship. After I have shown you the verses in your own bible you still deny, if one Says he isn't God and you're claiming he is then something is wrong.
rahim4411 8 months ago
@The3in1trinity Allah has already saved me LOL When I was down and out I called on Allah and my life got better and it's still good! I didn't call on so called God or so called Jesus. And you keep right on calling that man Jesus and that's not his name. SMH
rahim4411 8 months ago
@The3in1trinity WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE DEITY THAT THE SON OF MARY CALLED ON? SINCE ALLAH CAN'T SAVE ME TELL ME FROM THE ARAMAIC SCRIPT NOT ENGLISH LETS SEE HOW SMART YOU ARE!
WHAT WAS THE DEITY THE SON OF MARY CALLED ON?
rahim4411 8 months ago
@The3in1trinity The son of Mary told the Hebrews to follow a man coming! So what are you talking about? Bible:
"John 16:13
Howbeit when HE, the Spirit of truth, is come, HE will guide you into all truth: for HE shall not speak of HIMSELF; but whatsoever HE shall hear, [that] shall HE speak: and HE will shew you things to come."
There are six he’s and one word himself, showing these words are masculine pronouns. THE SON SAID A MAN WAS TO COME AND HEBREWS WERE TO FOLLOW.
rahim4411 8 months ago
@The3in1trinity I'LL DEBATE YOU I WILL COME TO YOUR CHURCH AND DEBATE YOU AND I WILL BRING MY PEOPLE!!! WHERE DO YOU WANNA DEBATE?
If The Son of Mary is God by your doctrine show me where he said "I JESUS AM GOD WORSHIP ME". Show it to me, don't tell me I AM, and Emanuel and all this unclear crap, if he was god he would of said it, God made it clear he was God and to worship him only! So The Son of Mary could do the same thing!
rahim4411 8 months ago
@rahim4411 I'LL DEBATE YOU I WILL COME TO YOUR CHURCH AND DEBATE YOU AND I WILL BRING MY PEOPLE!!! WHERE DO YOU WANNA DEBATE?
If The Son of Mary is God by your doctrine show me where he said "I JESUS AM GOD WORSHIP ME". Show it to me, don't tell me I AM, and Emanuel and all this unclear crap,
_ Hi there. I would like to ask why is it necessary for GOD to make such a claim, is it because man is ignorant that christ MUST say those exact phrases, please elaborate as I think deedats point was moot!
MTLBOBIRAS 8 months ago
@MTLBOBIRAS YOU'RE BIBLE ISN'T WRITTEN BY GOD IT'S WRITTEN BY MEN WITH COLLECTIONS OF LITERATURE ALONG WITH THE OLD TESTAMENT TO MAKE UP A BOOK! You tell me why did the Scholars take out some books? If God wrote that book who gave men the authority to remove books? One bible is 73 books, another 66, another 80, then the Ethiopian bible is 81 books. There are Bibles in the east that has none of the doctrine you christians in the west have!
rahim4411 8 months ago
@rahim4411 YOU'RE BIBLE ISN'T WRITTEN BY GOD IT'S WRITTEN BY MEN WITH COLLECTIONS OF LITERATURE ALONG WITH THE OLD TESTAMENT TO MAKE UP A BOOK!
-So is your Quran, it was written and compiled by men, MY books were written by EYE witnesses that saw, friend that is what makes the difference.
MTLBOBIRAS 8 months ago
@MTLBOBIRAS LOL See the point is I never said Allah wrote the Qur'an you said God wrote your Bible not me! Muhammad pbuh was inspired to write the Qur'an by Allah through the angel Gabriel just like Allah gave inspiration to Moses, Yeshu'a Son of Mary, etc. The bible New Testament were done by people that were not eyewitnesses. Matthew , Mark, Luke and John didn't live in the time of Jesus.
rahim4411 8 months ago
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@rahim4411 LOL See the point is I never said Allah wrote the Qur'an you said God wrote your Bible not me! Muhammad pbuh was inspired to write the Qur'an by Allah through the angel Gabriel just like Allah gave inspiration to Moses, Yeshu'a Son of Mary, etc. The bible New Testament were done by people that were not eyewitnesses. Matthew , Mark, Luke and John didn't live in the time of Jesus.
-Again Please answer the original Question, Stop side stepping, Your a Phony just like Deedat was!
MTLBOBIRAS 8 months ago
@MTLBOBIRAS The disciples themselves didn't witness the so called death of Jesus because THEY FLED! Remember that? Why do you think they dam near jumped outta their skin when Jesus came to them in the UPPER ROOM? because THEY WERE NOT EYE WITNESSES! Not even his mother the Bible says SHE STOOD AFAR" Yet you have pictures of her in the world where she is right under his feet! smh
rahim4411 8 months ago
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@rahim4411 LOL See the point is I never said Allah wrote the Qur'an you said God wrote your Bible not me! Muhammad pbuh was inspired to write the Qur'an by Allah through the angel Gabriel just like Allah gave inspiration to Moses, Yeshu'a Son of Mary, etc. The bible New Testament were done by people that were not eyewitnesses. Matthew , Mark, Luke and John didn't live in the time of Jesus.
-Don't educate, answer the Original question Mr.Scholar
MTLBOBIRAS 8 months ago
@rahim4411 You tell me why did the Scholars take out some books? If God wrote that book who gave men the authority to remove books? One bible is 73 books, another 66, another 80, then the Ethiopian bible is 81 books. There are Bibles in the east that has none of the doctrine you christians in the west have!
-This is the stupidest comment you have posted, that is baloney just like the words that foam from your mouth, old boy! The message in each and everyone of those books,same: Jesus son of GOD
MTLBOBIRAS 8 months ago
@MTLBOBIRAS I know your point is moot!!! YOu don't know anything about the Bible !!! You tell me how is there four different versions of the Bible and they don't match up. Here's my video put it in the search and watch this. Then you come back and tell me what's what!
QURAN RAHIM VS TRUTHTEACH 3010 PART 2 <----that's my video I show the 4 different bibles now you
tell me who wrote them!
rahim4411 8 months ago
@rahim4411 I know your point is moot!!!
-Ok, Please explain in detail, that is what I asked
YOu don't know anything about the Bible!!
- According to who,you? LOL Ok. But you do, yes? Self proclaimed Christian? Please stay on topic and answer the original question. Can you do that or would you like me to re-ask the question?
MTLBOBIRAS 8 months ago
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@MTLBOBIRAS the topic is SHOW ME WHERE JESUS HIMSELF SAID HE WAS GOD!!!
rahim4411 8 months ago
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@rahim4411
You tell me how is there four different versions of the Bible and they don't match up. Here's my video put it in the search and watch this. Then you come back and tell me what's what!
QURAN RAHIM VS TRUTHTEACH 3010 PART 2 <----that's my video I show the 4 different bibles now you
----- Again this is not what I asked you,Why mislead? I asked you,Why is it important to MUSLIMS that GOD makes such a statement, I AM GOD,WORSHIP ME.In the Gospels? That was the question I am waiting!!
MTLBOBIRAS 8 months ago
@rahim4411 Did u mean 2 say "Gospels"? The 4 Gospels record the words of Jesus...
The3in1trinity 7 months ago
@mhdmoh Since the Old Testament, there had to be a blood sacrifice of an animal for sins to be forgiven. The sacrifice of Jesus was sufficient for all mankind. He has given people the opportunity to enter Heaven in this way.
But, you knew very well what Jesus taught of killing, adultery, theft etc, but instead chose to mention that he allowed all this somehow, in spite of this being a flat out lie.
PS: I am not Christian.
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
@athanasiadis24 First off, Jesus pbuh never came for ALL MANKIND, he specifically said twice to make it clear "I COME ONLY FOR THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL" Twice he said it, what part of that don't you understand? you do know what the word ONLY MEANS right ? You do know that the gentiles were everyone except the Hebrew Israelites right? He didn't come for the Arab, he didn't come for the Egyptian, Semaritian, Libyan etc only the Hebrews!
rahim4411 8 months ago
@rahim4411 If you are referring to Matthew 10:16 and Matthew 15:24 they are both taken COMPLETELY out of context.
In one case Jesus means pretty much the opposite of what he says and in the other case he just tells his students “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. 6 Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel."
And since these are the only two verses that I found mentioning the "lost sheep of Israel", this was a HUGE hoax.
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
@athanasiadis24 HUH?
rahim4411 8 months ago
@rahim4411 I mean exactly that which I wrote to you. The verses were taken entirely out of context in a very deceptive manner.
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
@athanasiadis24 Again HUH?
rahim4411 8 months ago
@rahim4411 I don't see why you're doing this. And it's not amusing either, it's just stupid. I mean what I wrote. If you disagree, say why, I do not care for anyone's "huh?".
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
@mhdmoh "So if I believe in Jesus as a god or a "Saviour" then I may kill, rap, steel, ect and My beloved savior would free me out of sins....."
The reason why Christians believe that Jesus died is so that they would get rid of original sin. You know very well what Jesus taught about murder, rape, theft etc, but your blatant, flat-out dishonesty wouldn't allow you to say it, huh.
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
@mhdmoh So the moon carrying a scratch is sufficient, conclusive evidence that it was Muhammad who "split" it? How can you expect not to be mocked after this?
By the way "split" means "divide, tear" and under no circumstances does it mean, "scratch". And no, the moon was never divided or torn apart in case you're wondering.
There's Japanese folklore that says that Miyamoto Musashi pierced mountains with his sword. If I find a mountain with a hole (I have) , INEVITABLY it must have been him, eh?
athanasiadis24 8 months ago
@mhdmoh
Sir, it is your understanding of the atonement which is bull shit. If you believe in Jesus and give yourself to Him in faith, He not only forgives you of your sins, but transforms you into a new creation, and you will not desire to kill, rape, steal, or anything abominable to God. The grace and forgiveness Jesus offers is not freedom TO sin, it is freedom FROM sin. His followers must not do such things. Jesus says REPENT, which means to turn away from sin. Only He can forgive u though.
Grambo4 8 months ago