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  • alright.. all that technology in the FW15 and he's still a second and a half behind Senna. Senna = Amazing. he would have one every race had he been in that car in 93

  • FW15 is the most advanced f1 car ever and it has sonic the hedge hog on it

  • You can see the active suspension working. Amazing.

  • lol, i think its funny that little image with Senna watching the Prost's qualy, they can't live without each other .

  • Man, those Renault engines had an amazing roar..

  • Questa si chiama pulizia di guida.

  • Hax... Lol...

    

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  • "Toughest guy to beat" - N. Lauda

    And that was after 1984-campaign. Prost managed well all the WC team-mates that he had: Lauda, Rosberg, Senna and Mansell, though the Englishman won his title later. Nowadays only few has actually driven alongside a World Champion. Alonso 0, Räikkönen 0, Vettel 0. Though Lewis Hamilton has driven with 2, I can't compare JB with any of those great names of the history.

  • @MacGovernor

    Schumacher never had a champion team mate either if you don't count a 39 year old, long over-the-hill Nelson Piquet for 4 races in 1991. As a matter of fact none of his team mate had ever won a race before joining the team. Not Brundle, not Verstappen, not Herbert, not Irvine, not Barrichello, not Massa. Only Patrese in 1993.

    Coulthard had 3 champion team mates. Hill, Hakkinen and Raikkonen, and Webber nearly won last year, which would have made it 4. He had tough opposition.

  • @omotigre2004 Actually most people with a good F1 knowledge (including almost all F1 drivers) would agree that Prost is way underrated. Senna used to praise Prost the last few years of his life. And if Senna thought Prost was amazing, then others should really think hard before giving negative comments about Prost.

  • @immortalperser

    I'm agree, indeed I say on the 1993; but I think also the matter was Senna debuted when Prost was on the apex and then the reference when he debuted in McLaren four years later

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  • Prost: I can. Senna: I am

  • Despite all the technology embeded in the Williams, Prost disliked the lack of sensation it gave back. He didn't have the right feeling to attack and said that if F1 continued in that direction, racing would turn to a boring computerized war and joystick driving. So he quit that mascarade, and the year after (1994), many drivers missed the "Professor"'s advisories, Senna the first.

  • The pinnacle of F1 cars and technology. Fast Cars, High Technology, Great Looks, Great Sound. Just before the bureaucrats became chicken at the cornering speeds and narrowed the tires, then ruined the whole formula after Senna's death.

  • Renault sound, the best

  • I saw the videos with Senna and Scumacher then.

    Prost's style seems smoother.

  • The reason why the car looks so smooth is by 1993 Williams had the dominate technology for active suspension. They really peaked it off in '92, but when '93 started every team realized they had to have active suspension to combat Williams. Benetton and McLaren never got to the same level as Williams despite development.

    Active suspension would be banned in '94.  Look at the onboards (even the one from Imola where Senna died) from '94 and you'll notice the cars bounce around a lot more.

  • 91 with Jordan and Benetton

    92 with Benetton

    93 Benetton again...

  • @MegaBronsky1 it was the 2nd full season - in 1991 Schumacher only started 6 races out of 16.

  • 1993 was the Third full season of Michael Scumacher ......he was not a rookie anymore in that time

  • Alain is a good driver but this is just a poor lap.

  • Alain and Ayrton are the bests drivers of history. I respect Hill, but he never rival to Prost and Senna. However Hill defeated Schumacher...Villeneuve too. Ayrton and Alain raced against legends of F1. Schumacher raced against nobody. Unhappy today, peoples think that drivers are numbers. Schumacher returns in 2010....Alain return too and win all races!!!!! Show your skiilfull and wins against cheat, team orders...You Can...

  • @guigo00018 Are you saying that 2 time World Champ Mika Häkkinen is nobody? Same with Fernando Alonso?

    Good luck to Schumacher for his return, but even though history says otherwise, I don't think he is the best ever. Don't ask who is though as there are cases for many drivers (Prost, Senna, Clark, Piquet, Fangio, Brabham, Lauda etc).

  • @guigo00018

    Hill and Villeneuve only managed to defeat Schumacher in a car that was absolutely superior in all aspects.

    If Schumacher would've driven one off those superior Williams cars in 1996 and 1997 he would win every GP with 2 laps advantage over the rest off the field.

  • @Pompyroftw woah, calm down there matey. Two laps is way over the top. There is no way anyone would manage that. In 1988 when Alain Prost and Ayrton Senna had the dominant McLaren that won 15 of the 16 races that was nearly 16 out of 16 had it not been for Ayrton being taken out by a backmarker in Italy in the closing laps. That car, with the two greatest drivers in history behind the wheel of it could only get it one lap ahead of the rest of the field, and that car was easily dominant back then

  • then why didn't he join Williams then?

  • I' am fan of Senna and Prost...only speak of Senna, because Alain retired before of F1...unhappy today peoples think that drivers are numbers... Look .... Schumacher NEVER conquerer pole against Senna and Prost....the era of Prost and Senna, the drivers are most skillfull, the tracks more hard of driving, and one driver in inferior car fight against one driver in better car...today no existing fight...the better car overtaking easy...

  • remember that 1993 was only msc second full season in the sport. by '94 msc looked to be a threat to senna but then imola happened.

  • @jiricekk86 You me interpreting bad....I only say that if Prost not leave F1, or Senna not dead...one this certain wins championship of 94,95,96,97...because in 93 team mate of Prost, Hill is very slow against Prost (13 poles for Prost )...in 94 Senna conquerer 3 pole, and in Brazil more fastest against Hill 1.5 seconds, in Aida 0.500 and imola 1.6 seconds. Hill never rival for Prost or Senna...but defeated Schumacher.. Villeneuve too..

  • Ce qu'il y a de génial avec Prost c'est qu'il a conduit aussi vite que les autres qui se déchiraient au volant de leur F1 en bagarre avec la piste, lui, sans prendre le moindre risque, il allait au moins aussi vite. Une grande leçon de pilotage. Bravo !

  • Don't speak for all. I'm a life long Senna fan and watched him live since 1993. I love Prost almost as much as I do Senna.

    Calling Prost anything but a supreme, Godlike talent in an F1 car is ignorance of the highest degree.

  • I love this car. Very sexy livery

    Great .........

  • o.0 I thought I was the only one! Loving this onboard view of the car since its live appearence. ..

  • Prost is the absolute best driver ever. The master of being faster than everybody else with taking the least amount of risk in the proces. That is great driving.

  • @nzoplkj

    Don't agree with that...

  • @nzoplkj

    I agree. People forget that if all points were counted for the championship in 88 and 89, like they do today, then Prost would have won BOTH the 88 and 89 titles.

    He led the most laps in both the 1981 and 1982 seasons, and reliability robbed him of the 82 title. In 83 a turbo failure in the last race robbed him of a well deserved title (Piquet's Brabham used some questionably fuel), and in 84 a 2nd place in a full distance Monaco would have given him that title too.

  • @nzoplkj The master of car setup too !

  • When the Formula 1...was Formula 1......Great cars, great driver's, great engine's, great tracks.....

  • true that!

  • Nice footage!

  • God damn I miss these cars. They were so much more beautiful and interesting back then (not to mention wide as hell). I never got to see the turbo era but was fortunate enough to see the insane technology of the early 90's cars. Unfortunately when Senna died the rules makers went crazy with changes to slow them down which ironically wound up making the cars even faster! F1 Engineers make alot of money for a reason!

  • Schumacher was excellent, no doubt, master behind a wheel, almost a complete package, but like Senna, he is no God, he did make mistakes and whilst these two may have been faster, being the better package is what counts and I think Prost was the best package. Because he lacked the charisma and aggression, he is almost forgotten, which is sad really.

    All three drivers are great, but I think Prost is better than he is made out to be. No doubt the Senna fanboys will give me thumbs down for this.

  • Alain Prost. Even with all his four titles, being runner-up four times, 51 race wins; he is extremely underrated.

    Everyone talks about who is the best between Senna and Schumacher, and it is quite false. We all know Senna died tragically on the circuit, but I think people use this to resurrect him and talk about his "god-like" driving, how he was a great human for helping Erik Comas in 1993, but almost killing himself and Prost at Suzuka in 1990.

  • Prost is underrated because he was so completely UNspectacular to most people watching.  But for anyone with an appreciation for his special, almost unique talent to go so quickly yet LOOK so slowly whilst doing it, he is the absolute best. Plus, out of the cockpit he is probably one of the most down-to-earth people amongst F1's greats. No airs about him at all, just completely normal.

    Senna had a spectacular brilliance, and Schumi was over-rated in my opinion. But Prost is the best for me.

  • @txtmstrjoe This is the first time I see someone saying Prost, a 4 times world champion, is underrated.

  • @txtmstrjoe <3

  • Those are really mean corners at the beginning! Even on a pc game I always crash.Must have been really though job for these professionals,who just fly through those corners :O

  • this is gold! perfect formula 1

  • I like to see the real champs in 1993: Alain Prost, and Ayrton Senna. Prost, in Adelaide was champion because we earn the in previous races. The Professor [with still with motivation] was 2nd against his mutual definite nemesis Senna. The Williams has a superb packedge and clear superior than the McLaren-Ford. He always drive in smooth pace. Senna the best qualifier ever did the pole. It was a thought qualification for both but Senna prevail. Schumacher? Was 4th .727 s behind Senna.

  • i love the way that schumacher fans somhow think that the benetton b194 couldn't have been a better car for the first half of '94. benettons were always the little car that handled like a dream, they were always competitive and answer me this, schumacher fans, what made the williams better in '94? it's engine was more powerful but the average chassis and aerodynamics fault in the ruined any advantage that williams had with the engine... just because williams had a name didn't make them better...

  • Nigel once told about the 92 car, that if you had the guts, then you just had to floor the pedal and turn into the corner. The car would do the rest.

  • i believe that if senna stays on mclaren, he never died

  • or join in Ferrari :-)

  • in hindsight yeah

  • the most technologically advanced F1 car ever

    and Senna made the pole

    SENNA EVER

  • Senna's McLaren had all the same tech enhancements as the Williams.

    Jesus, you'd think people would check their facts before spewing their fanboy BS.

  • huahuahuahuaha great joke man, very good

    McLaren had a starting active suspension project, traction control and some starting in ABS

    Williams had the most-developed ever active suspension project by Patrick Head, with Adrian Newey...a Traction Control that was receiving improvements since 1991, the same year that semi-auto gears were implemented, sucessfully working and with a less time-shifting than the McLarens

    williams had the ABS since 1991 too, a car that could auto-shift and Renault

  • In 1993, the MP4-8 had a very good electronics package. It was the engine that was unpowered. But of course, the Williams was a superior package.

  • yeah

  • But even with the fabulous Williams' package, Senna was defeated by M Schumacher (who drove a Benetton-Ford) in the first 3 races of 1994. If the brazilian lived till the end of his potential career, we would see M Schumacher beating him as he bet Alain Prost.

  • are you sure at that? with a instable williams FW16 in 1994, senna made 3 poles, beating schumacher...but he didn't won the three races because great unlucky (broken gear in interlagos that he spun, hit in Aida and dead in San Marino)...and we can't forget the cheater fuel rig of benetton, that put much more in less time fuel in the car

  • Being the Senna fan I am,I always ask to myself:would there be one day in which Senna fans dare to say not every thing that happened to him was due to "bad luck"?When I see Ayrton's spin off in Brazil 94,or Ayrton braking earlier than normal to Mika and so Mika crashed him from behind,I can't say it's bad luck at all.He was a human being,He wans't unbeatable (nor Prost or Schumi as well) and maybe,we the Senna fans,should admit that a lot of times Ayrton was beat fairly,specially by Prost....

  • Nice to see a reasonable Senna fan that - as you say - accepts that he was a human being, who made mistakes like everyone else!

    Most Senna fans are over hysterical, and denies any "scrathes" in his glory surface!

    He was great, great driver but walking the earth like all of us!

  • Had Senna not died, and stayed with Williams I cant see how could not take the championship in 95, 96, and 97 considering Williams strenght in these years!

    And then he would have the right age to retire!

    He could have finished of with 3 consecutive championships!

    With the poor start of the 1994 Season I would not say he would have won that, but the coming 3 for certain!

  • I agree with you except on respecting to 95 - Williams was the best team and FW18 a perfect car, but M Schumacher was at his best performance (like Senna in 91 - how could Mansell beat him?). We can imagine what would happen, but never be sure... Anyway I think Senna would retire after 98, as a 5 times WC at that age (38 years old).

  • Didnt Hill make a hell lot of mistakes in 95?...especially in the last half og the season where he basiclly lost every chance!?

    But Yeah we will never know...and we never got the joy and pleasure so see them running agains eachother for real!

    Thats a shame!

    Im not a "fan" of any driver and im glad im kind of "neutral"!

    I just hope for the closest posible seasons, why the last two could not have been better! :-)

    I do admire drivers like Kimi and Alonso for their "race-craft"...

  • The abillity to keep moving up the field, not get lured to sleep behing other drivers, and makes spectacular overtakes!

    Massa fx. lack race craft sometimes! He is VERY fast when things run smoothly but if gets stressed and has to fight his way up, he is not as good as Kimi or Alonso...at least i my mind!

  • That Renault engine sounds really crappy on the onboard shots. A bit better on the trackside cameras.

  • Yes, the TV obviously enjoyed the rivalry between those two greats. In 1993 one TV channel began its F1 transmissions with a photomount showing Senna and Prost face to face!

  • great stuff. love the inset of his rival!

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