Manned Venus Flyby - Orbiter Space Flight Simulator

[superotherguy1]

This video NEEDS to be remastered! =D

[SR71U2ube]

Theres alot of truth to that comment above. If the spaceshuttle hadnt been developed and turned the US into everybodys bitch for placing their precious sat's into orbit,we could have been shooting further,I believe in being selfish in space exploration.And Im not discounting the shuttle either. It was a great peice of technology but it paused our real mission in space and made space exploration somewhat dull and routine. We need to be oldschool for just a little longer.

[RecklessTornado]

someone should make a proper addon for the MVF "not because it is easy, but because it is hard."

[superotherguy1]

Remaster?!?!

[macieksoft]

You can read in nasa resources about special module designed to be placed in SIVB transport module replacing LM. But this modele never been builded.

[TheMightyPluto]

Imagine the bone-chilling fear that the astronauts would have had once they were in an inferior conjunction to Earth, on the far side of Venus.....it would have been a slingshot around....or a one-way mission to the sun!  .....the failures of the Japanese and the ESA to even put probes in orbit of Venus proves that it is not a predictable science at all....

[CatIcarus]

whew, sux to be those animated astronauts. Sitting in that capsule for 2 years? whew I couldn't do it! unless they added a back part with some type of entertainment I most likely would be able to....but without..you'd go insane...unless they put you in a capsule that size on earth for that long to train you? O.o

[helljumpr5150]

@CatIcarus Actually it was for 396 days (13 months), and they wouldn't be sitting in the capsule the whole way, for the S4B booster that propelled them would be vented of fuel and it's spacous hydrogen tanks could be turned into living quarters, the way Skylab originally was designed as, called 'Wet workshop'. As for entertainment, they'll be rather busy doing deep space experiments and monitoring ship functions, but they bring almost whatever they want to entertain themselves to pass time.

[stephenvic]

Whats the music?I love it!

[coolleect]

I'd love to do this. Got AMSO, but do you know any Faqs that could help me do it, particularly docking. Yeah I'm a noob I get it

[Armigo91]

Ive never really figured this but this video made me interested.

How do you get those animated and detailed launch pads. For any type of vessel (scenario)

Ive tried googline launch pads for orbiter,

I can't find appropriate addons on orbithangar either.

I do find launch pads, but they are not animated, just static launch pads without the trailers carrying the rockets etc.

Some feedback on the subject would be greatly appreciated.

[ansasa]

Venus flyby would be much better 'training' mission than mission to an asteroid. What is the difference in duration between Venus flyby and Mars flyby?

[RecklessTornado]

There were also plans for a Mars flyby in a similar configuration.

[rseferino1]

@RecklessTornado Yes. In fact, the fan orbiter launched the challenge of traveling to Mars, landing on the moon Phobos and return to Earth. I'm working on Apollo spacecraft interesting videos on various destinations in the solar system.

[Chuck6360]

If we continued with this project. We would have nearly 4 decades to make this come true. If this mission was succesful.. Then the meaning of this mission would have been greater than Apollo moon mission. Maybe we would have changed the name. What about Prometheus project?

[sparky577]

Magnificent! 

[MrInsects]

that was saturn v wich was suppose to go to moon but still awsome video

[ToEuropa]

This is a nice video, with great music.

I agree with you spacecowboynj, there will always be problems at home and it's never a reason to stop exploring. You were mistaken on one point, however. The bank bailouts [TARP] were signed into law by President Bush on October 3, 2008. The bailouts of Bear Stearns, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Goldman Sachs, and Citigroup also happened in 2008. President Obama was sworn in on January 20, 2009.

[spacecowboynj]

If you have to ask the question of why we should go to other planets you'll never know the answer. If "problems on our own planet" are an excuse to ignore exploration then we'll never go anywhere because humans will always have problems. But just from a cost comparison - we're about to send a huge robot rover 30 million miles to Mars in Nov, cost of mission $2.6 billion. The Obama bank bailouts were in excess of $800 billion. The health care cost for illegal aliens in NYC alone is $5 billion/yr.

[bamaman84]

Why did all of rseferino1's vids get deleted? What happened to the Soviet moonshot? There were some really good vids.

[rseferino1]

@bamaman84 For some reason my old account was deleted. I'm going to shoot my old videos. I have a new way of recording and editing and I want to make them better.

[bamaman84]

@rseferino1 Good deal. They were great vids. Good job and I hope to see them soon. Are you going to redo the Soviet Moonshot?

[spacestevie2]

This mission would have been a relatively cheap way of reusing the Apollo hardware to provide a manned deep space probe and gain experience in prolonged deep space flight. Look at the fact that three Saturn V's were never used and are rusting away at the various space centers. This might have been a viable alternative use for those boosters.

Before making any commentary click on the link in the description and read the mission profile PDF. It answers a lot of questions.

[Jimbob8971]

@spacestevie2 its too expensive plus what about education and poverty which should always come first rather than a flyby of venus infact they should scrap the whole thing (space program) its pointless anyways we have povety wars and education that need to be sorted out first and maybes if we ever sort them problems out then MAYBES consider space travel. but for the most part it is just a waste of valuble money.

[rseferino1]

@Jimbob8971 Even just flying with the "white elephant"of the space shuttle, there are wars and famine. U.S. has spent $ 500 billion in Iraq and Afghanistan. By contrast, Apollo, 110 billion, and the trip to Mars, 150 billion.

[Jimbob8971]

@rseferino1 yep i agree on that one but i still would rather it goes to education and povety instead of space exploration and war.

[rseferino1]

@Jimbob8971 Yes. But education and the elimination of hunger is not only money. Of course, one thing is the "white elephant"as the Space Shuttle and the ISS, instead of more profitable projects and the exploration of the planets. It is as if they told the explorers of the sixteenth century not to travel around the world. Space exploration is just in its infancy, is like expecting nothing but build a rocket and come back tons of gold space. That takes time.

[Jimbob8971]

@rseferino1 why would we go to another planet that we can't even live on WHY! we have our own problems to sort out on this planet not Venus. what the hell is at venus anyways last i heard it was nothing more then a volcano world useless to human needs and yes i quite like obamas plan to turn NASA into nothing more than a satelite company. when the next president comes hopefully he will see that the money needs to go to the American people not the sci-fi fans that still believe that lifes exists.

[rseferino1]

@Jimbob8971 Well, it's your money, invest it in more invasions of other countries, to be free to force, that's for sure.

[Jimbob8971]

@rseferino1 there is no proof of that im afraid so........

[spacestevie2]

@Jimbob8971 To me this is part of the education budget. Rather than waste money on learning to destroy each other we spend money furthering mankind. NASA never reached the insane amount of money we spend on destroying each other. Poverty is only eliminated by Education and poverty. If we had the same mentality about the space program, maybe western history would have been different. However, we didn't save very much money by letting those boosters rust away.

[Jimbob8971]

@spacestevie2 why do we need to waste billions on human space travel anyways yeah sure space is full of strange and wonderful things such as stars and black holes and shit but being realistic its never gonna benefit humans they should just stick with sending probes we don't need people out there its a total waste and thank god obama realises that we have our own problems to deal with on this planet no jupiter.

[spacestevie2]

@Jimbob8971 Eventually we will have to be out there in space. We need to get out there, gain the experience to stay there. If we don't, then we are stuck on the Earth. This Earth we are polluting and destroying slowly but surely. If we thought the same thoughts about exploration in the early years of Ocean going exploration, we would not be in America. One must remember the experience of China. They stopped exploring. Then they spent the next 1000 years conquered and exploited.

[spacestevie2]

@Jimbob8971 Also, sending probes out there is roughly the equivalent of sending my dog to go over the hill and never leaving my house. If I thought about my life the way you think about exploration, we would never go anywhere in life. I would like to be there to see whats over the next hill. While I personally cannot go, as I lack the training and physique, the astronauts can and be our ambassadors in a sense to experience it for us.

[sparky577]

@spacestevie2 If I could give you infinite and exponential thumbs up for this comment, I would do so. Well said sir, well said indeed!

[tnyachot]

@spacestevie2 I was interested in engineering because of space travel. I never was interested in designing a missile or a tank.

[TheRobloxPwn]

"Guys i see my house from here!!!"

[SnowWalkerOne]

That was pretty entertaining to watch. Nice job.

[RecklessTornado]

rsferino1 How did u get the mobile launch platform for amso? All I found is the mlp for nassp. Can u help me find it for amso?

[nickyp28]

wow. very good work!

[helljumpr5150]

Just think of it. If history went along with the MVF and kept exploring outwards instead of staying with the shuttle, we could've had a city on the Moon by now.

[Doctor699]

@helljumpr5150 You can thank president nixon for cutting NASA's budget!

[Winner8501]

@helljumpr5150

Or what is more likely, people would have realized that the manned Venus flyby was totally useless in terms of the scientific return, and NASA's wings would have been trimmed even more brutally than they historically were.

[RomanianKnight]

@Winner8501 I have to disagree. The first apollo mission had very little scientific return in terms about learning about the moon. What they did was a) build the technology base to get man out of the earth's gravity well and b) keep the general public interested in ways that geological studies, etc. never could. (as can be seen in the indifferent reaction to the discovery of water on the moon) I think the MVF could've been used to expand on the technology to allow man to go even further. 

[Winner8501]

@RomanianKnight

I am afraid that MVF would have accomplished nothing on both counts. First, it would have been just an adaptation of the existing Apollo/Skylab technology. Nothing really new would have been produced. Second, the public is interested in going to places that offer us a promise, some kind of future. Venus is useless in this respect and in any case, the flyby would have been incredibly short.

So again, it would have been useless and people would have seen that. Not good.

[Winner8501]

(not to mention that without a proper radiation shielding, which is conspicuously missing from the plan, it would in fact have been a Manned Venus Fry-by. The astronauts would have been lucky to survive and they'd most likely develop cancer later in their life and all sorts of other health issues. All this for a few-hour glimpse at Venus? No thanks.)

[helljumpr5150]

@Winner8501 It was in plan, for the mission would be right after the Solar Maxim (1973-1974), the time were solar radiation was at its lowest in an 11 year period. The S4B/CSM structures were thick enough to block out the worst, and there was a planned habitat module to go in between that could've acted as a shelter. Plus the crew would have regular intakes of retinoid medication to boost their immunity against cellular decay. They still ran the chance of ending up sterile though.

[helljumpr5150]

@Winner8501 The moon showed no promise and everyone knew that, yet they still wanted to see men walk on it, and wanting to beat the Soviets. It was a lack of a future destination or greater challenge/competition that wained the public interest in going to other planets since Tricky Dick decided on the Shuttle which is a true dead in space travel.

Venus is not entirely useless, since its atmosphere is rich in elements that can be harvested. (N,CO2,Ar,C,etc.)

[helljumpr5150]

@Tyrannobeast MVF = Manned Venus Flyby

[Tyrannobeast]

@helljumpr5150 I noticed that right after starting the video. I feel really dumb now.