yeah looking at around 2:57 why can't black move the queen to e7? looking at the top two comments I can see this would be a bad move, but can someone please tell me why?
(at time when black resigned) Hmm, BQ could go H6. White bishop takes queen. Then black rook takes white queen. and black is only a rook behoind. He could still have a chance with such pawn predominance.
@iNils1 After white plays d5, black can move his knight to b4 then after queen checks at a4, black can move his bishop to d7 then the white queen is forced to move losing a tempo. If the white queen tries to take the free bishop at a5 then the black knight can come in with a fork on the rook and king.
@iliginjaili just recapture the bishop with Nxc3, and then after dxc3, Qc3, and he'll only be able to defend the pawn with Qf6, after which you'll play Bg5, attacking the queen, and the queen has nowhere to go other than g6. If he offers up a queen trade with either Nb4 or Ne5 then you'll accept the trade with Bxf6, and after Nxd3, then Bxg7, and he's gonna lose the rook: there's no escape for it xD
@iliginjaili The best your opponent can do is try to distract you by attacking the bishop on c4 with Nb2. No threat there, just move Bb2 and then capture the rook. Black hos no good counter play. All you have to be cautious of now is his passed pawn on c3, so just make sure he doesn't get a chance to promote it and you'll have an easy game, with a HUGE advantage ;)
I love the fact that everybody is going nuts over that video, after all, it's snow from yesterday. If you always try to check out everything before you play, you will never enjoy chess, 'cause you are just trying to win, in order to satisfy your ego. Something else is missing in your life, probably a big chunk of happiness or any real career goal, play your own openings and make decisions without consulting other people as much as possible. Try chess960, to see how spontaneous you are. Good luck
LOL Too funny. Was the creator of this video simply reading the moves out of a book? How else can it be explained that black plays 8...Ke7? Why the heck would black play Ke7 in that position? Any novice-level chess player sees that this move simply loses. I will continue to look for videos on the Evan's gambit because you clearly don't know what you're even doing a video on.
@samewoody then c5 gains a tempo, kicking the knight away, and d4 gets a second tempo forcing the bishop to move. Such a play would result in a huge loss in time and development for black.
The future of chess is in Chess960 or FRC. This takes us back to pure chess where there is no - at the moment - opening theory. Chess960 takes a player out of their comfort zone and truely tests their understanding of the game.
Traditional chess relies heavily on opening theory and prepartion away from the board. it has become stale and boring.
@whocares332332 After 8. ... Qe7 9. Bg5, then black plays 9. ... Nf6 10. Bxf6 Qxf6 and white is down two pawns. Black has a passed pawn on c3 and wins easily.
has anyone else ever noticed that most if not all grandmasters just resign out of a game instead of trying to fight in case of a blunder i know its super unlikely but still.....
@goalsavior I think GMs resign out of blunders mostly out of respect for their opponents, which are most of the time also GMs. Against a lower player, the GM usually play on after a blunder as a way of saying "I can still beat you even after blundering"
the evans gambit is fun to play in blitz but i think the reason you don't see it at top-level play is because it has been analyzed so thoroughly and there are many ways that black can equalize or simply stand better in a forced endgame. I would recommend checking out some of Fischer's games with it, definitely instructive.
after b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5 6. d4 exd5 7. 0-0 dxc3 8. Qd5, Qe7 white has the shot 9. Ba3 if black were to play d6 white would win a bishop or his pawn back, if 9. Nf6 , 10. Bxe7, Nxd5. 11. exd5 and white it up a piece, so despite Qe7 white can come out of this line with material or central control and open lines.
Yeah this is very wrong. Jrobi I love your videos man but I must say Qe7 on move 8 is actually better for black, maybe better would have been Qb3 for whites 8th move. Still black is ahead but this line may well be playable I think what do you think?
@bumpytrip The position at 9:05 is a mate in 7, so any move is equally bad, but 17...Rxg7 actually leads to a mate in 3 with 18. Qxh4+ f6 19. Qxf6+ Re7 20. Qxe7#
I don't think your explanation for why not to play 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5.c3 Ba5 6.d4 exd4 is remotely satisfactory. First, after 7.0-0 I rarely see the move 7....cxd3 played, but your lines aren't bad for black.. typically moves like Nge7 or d6 are played. 2nd, even if cxd3 is played and white plays 8. Qd5 then Qe7 more than holds for black and white is down 2 pawns with very little compensation. 8.Qb3 would be better than Qd5 but i still perfer black.
@GarzaHector9 QD8-E7, NF3-E5, NG8-H6, BC1xNH6, G7xBH6. Same spot, black is worse off.
Or
QD8-E7, NF3-G5, F7-F6, NG5-F7. Black loses a rook
Or say Black seeing this ^ decides to pull a fast one and moves NC6-B4 attacking the queen, white simply plays QD5xBA5, NB4-C2, QA5xC3, NC1xRA1, QC3xNA1. Black lost a night, pawn, and bishop. White only lost a rook.
You really suck dude, in the Game Fischer - Fine one can see what your mistake is, the Queen has to go to b3 in order to create danger, on d5 nothing is going to happen, the Queen simply goes to e7, the Knight on b1 cannot take the pawn anymore 'cause it's protected by the Bishop.
You're not competent enough, go to school again before you open your mouth like that.
Mistake!! Very embarrassing, after 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5 6. d4 exd5 7. 0-0 dxc3 8. Qd5 .Black does NOT have to reply ith Ke7 , Qe7 will do the job just fine!!!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like you just explained something that messes up people's games, cause they trust you....
@stachuu771, Ng5, so? Black can play Nh6 and castle as well, the point is it's not a checkmate in one, I've played that version and my opponent played Ng5, didn't bring him shit. The Queen needs to be behind the Bishop, not the other way!
that is the possible variation.think before you complain...idiot..you just say what you can see but not what you didn't knw. calculator please.i think this man has need abacus..
@favoredsongs aren't you supposed to look at the board b4 u make a move? "Trust" completely irrelevant in this particular game, all u have to do is what u did, look at the board and make ur decision if anyone "trusts" Jrobi and makes only the moves he recommends he will of course lose and not improve but if u use his videos as a guideline u will improve in leaps and bounds. Jrobi UR THE MAN!
@KBoogs719 Very smart, indeed, you're right, it is very important to play your own game, I have learned that lesson very well after too many 'supersmart' videos here on youtube . However, that doesn't change the fact that this 'jrobi' was talking rubbish. It's about caring what one sells as 'truth'. There were people who agreed on that. So, therefore, your comment is rubbish, too. It's not important anymore for me, but since you're such a big fan of that guy, I suggest you move in with him ;-))
@favoredsongs there were people who agreed with Adolph Hitler and Pol Pot, i dont see ur point. These are guideline videos, if u can do better then post your own, dont bash on his, he always admits to not being a master level player and taking that as a given, u have to watch these videos with some discretion at the same time u should also be watching other videos and checking the positions with an engine assistant so u really cant bash jrobi for a small oversight, dont be crabby, we r chessers
@KBoogs719 I see, you're one of those boys who have to have the last word, because they are insecure about the fact that their statement is more than weak. I already told you, these videos are not posted by jrobi as if they were only his thoughts, his comments are presented as a given. Also, I suggest you keep you nazi comparison to yourself, it's getting way out of hand. This is my last comment, you obviously don't get the point, besides, what I write to jrobi is not your business anyway. Adios
@favoredsongs In fact, after 7... dxc3, White usually plays 8. Qb3, not 8. Qd5. Although Black can play something else besides 7... dxc3, like 7... Nge7, which statistically is the best move for Black after 7. O-O.
@favoredsongs i agree with you 100% but i think white can respond by moving the knight and putting black in an awkward position by Ng5 and play something along there possibly.....but idk
@favoredsongs Yea...this was made like 4 years ago, so who gives a crap? He wasn't extremely experienced back then, if you spot something, cudos. Don't be an ass about it though, lol.
I think the problem here is not what to play exactly, than white has many option and is attacking while black has to defend its position a lot and to do so will lose tempo.
maybe the idea is 9. Ng5. If Nf6, 10. Qxf7+ Qxf7 11. Bxe7+, black castle no more, the white will developing Be3 or g5 - Na3-c2(blocking pawn) Rfe1, Rad1 while black needs Nf6, d6 [b6/a6 - b5 is slower but could be Bb7] Bg4 - Rad8 - Rhe8 - Kf8 and here we will have white attack in kingside. another idea is in fischer play - instead Qd5 playing Qb3. Another thing to see is 9. Re1 and try to push with e pawn.
@favoredsongs You are completely wrong, just like the 48 other idiots that gave u thumbs up. He knows what hes talking about much better then you and showed how Qe7 will just make things worse...Im not as mad at u as at those idiots that gave u thumbs up
@moneymakerforlife It's ironic how you call favoredsongs an idiot, yet you seem lack the basic creativity to think for yourself. First of all, jrobi never "showed how Qe7 will just make things worse". He never even mentioned Qe7, as (I'm assuming) the move didn't occur to him at the time. And I love how, in spite of your obvious frustration, you still failed to come up with a single reason why Qe7 is a bad move. Keep grasping at straws, buddy. :)
@stupidguy97 Wow youre such an idiot if you havent noticed he already went over this move, and showed how it lead to a loss. Why am I wasting my time?
@moneymakerforlife In case you're unable to figure this out for yourself, Qe7 means QUEEN e7, not KING e7. jrobi never mentioned the move; if he did, why don't you try and point out where? Fucking idiot. Clearly, you haven't watched the video at all. Or are you just trolling?
5...Bd6 This is called the Stone-Ware defense after Henry Nathan Stone and Preston Ware. The move reinforces the e5-pawn and been played by several grandmasters such as Andrei Volokitin, Alexander Grischuk and Loek van Wely.
Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but if you did start eating away at his pawn structure and he lines his bishop and queen together, can't you just put your knight on the rim for defense?
If he moves his knight kingside to attack, you can add another defender with your queen. If he moves it queenside you can take it with your own knight and offer up a bishop trade, and if you can manage a queenside castle, he'll have no pawns to attack your formation.
After B-c4 and and Q-d5 for white, why black will move K-e7 ? it should be Q-e7 protecting pawn on f7 and if white responds with Bg5 then black will respond with f6 protecting queen and now position is well balanced.,. I am wondering why its like that?
at 8:32 black has 1. ...Nd8 (protecting the f7 square) and the game play continues 2. Bd2 BxBd2 3. NxBd2 O-O even though white is fully developed, black isnt necessarily in a "hopeless/dead" position
After 8.Qd5? Qe7! White has poor compensation for the material. In the Fischer-Fine game 8.Qb3! Qe7?! is indeed dubious (indoubitably dubious) and, as Fischer points out in his notes, Fine should have played 8...Qf6 instead. But the two positions 8.Qd5 and 8.Qb3 are completely different - you can't say that because 8...Qe7 is bad in one that it's bad in the other.
This opening is also along the lines of my personal favorite opening that I always use, which is known as the Legal Trap. , Which puts pressure on the F7Pawn, leading to mate.
@cacpotify: I saw that too and wondered about it, but if black takes the rook on E8 then white can move bishop to F6 check, and the only move is for black to take with queen, otherwise the queen will be lost. From there White can take the black rook with the queen, landing another check, and once black moves the king, white can take the bishop with the rook sitting on A8.
Okay so I was analyzing this match of Fischer and... wow.. move to like 8:54 when the rook comes to e1 and checks.. the black square bishop could have taken the rook, right?
I'm a very novice amateur player but would like to educate myself in chess strategy and I even think it is a good game to develop strategic thinking skills. What book or video would you recommend for a beginner like me?
Correct me if I'm being stupid here, but at 3:48 why does black not push his d or f pawn up, attacking the knight and forcing it to move before capturing the bishop?
I'm with BOYWONDER20090 - I didn't go through any follow-up variations after Queen e7, but it certainly seems logical at a quick glance... even if it isn't the correct move, it certainly seems natural enough were it should have been explained in the video.
if you watch the game, it really doesnt matter. fischer knows if black takes the rook with his bishop, then white simply takes the bishop with his other rook, still putting black in check on e1, and from there, the same outcome... at best, black would be trading his queen for that rook, and when dealing with grandmasters that is enough to resign a match.
of course... Qd5 is no real threat at all and my chess program Arasan finds nothing better than Qb3 to attack. then follows Qf6 to defend, after e5 black playes Qf5 and is about 1,2 pawns up. his King wont castle and rather will go to d8 from where he will go on to c7 eventually after playing c6. well its a bad place for him anyway but the hard things is, white must avoid exchanges by all means while the black queen is very nice on the f file.
i agree completely, i would NEVER expect a player to move the king unwillingly, let alone when Qe7 is available. even if white plays Ba3, black can protect iwith both the pawn or bishop.... this is retarded
So I see Ke7 was an mistake what is better then Qd5 like played or Qb3 like Fisscher played it? really like this format hope to see more content coming soon
can anyone explain y queen e7 is not the best move? even if the queen is threatened with bg5, black queen can move to e6 and offer a queen trade. if trade is denied, then there will no more be mate in 1
at 3:00 black can move knight to h6 to defend the f7 square without putting his king or queen in danger....
cheesehead1285 1 week ago
@cheesehead1285 the bishop on c1 would win it for free and if black captures with the pawn then mate on f7
smoky281 2 days ago
at 1:15, can you take the pawn with the knight??
nnosem 1 week ago
yeah looking at around 2:57 why can't black move the queen to e7? looking at the top two comments I can see this would be a bad move, but can someone please tell me why?
SirFlitwick 3 weeks ago
Couldn't black play Qf6 at 3:02? Why would black play Ke2 when he has the option of moving the queen?
cannibalcorpse135 1 month ago
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If Kc6 attacked b4, how would that change the gambit?
tolerateu 1 month ago
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tolerateu 1 month ago
(at time when black resigned) Hmm, BQ could go H6. White bishop takes queen. Then black rook takes white queen. and black is only a rook behoind. He could still have a chance with such pawn predominance.
DirtEVids 1 month ago
@DirtEVids If the Black Queen goes to h6 the game continues as follows: Bf6+ Queen has to take the Bishop so Qxf6 and than Qxg8 with checkmate.
20MinutesNoRusH 1 month ago
This video contains major inaccuracies.
tobyhoch 2 months ago
2:43 NOOO!!!! If black plays d6 white plays d5! Knight has to move and queen checks on a4 and the game is over.
iNils1 2 months ago
@iNils1 After white plays d5, black can move his knight to b4 then after queen checks at a4, black can move his bishop to d7 then the white queen is forced to move losing a tempo. If the white queen tries to take the free bishop at a5 then the black knight can come in with a fork on the rook and king.
DinoKicker 2 months ago
@DinoKicker No. Knight b4=cxb4.
iNils1 2 months ago
@iNils1 he could move Kn c7 then Qa4 check then c7, blocks check and the queen protects the bishop
LittleMeRox100 1 month ago
what if he take with pon on 1:30
GameOver647 2 months ago
@GameOver647 ... Did you not just watch the video??? The whole idea was that black WOULD take the pawn
tijuanamarisol666 1 week ago
at 2:58 can't the knight just develop to H6 and not allow the check mate?
ohmysparticus 2 months ago
@ohmysparticus If Kh6 Bxh6 and mate
plantesaquatiques 2 months ago
@ohmysparticus bishop catches night
Mondrae205 2 months ago
@Mondrae205 Thank You. I'm still a noob. These videos are very helpful.
ohmysparticus 2 months ago
at 2:50 can anybody tell me how to respond as white if black plays Bxc3??
iliginjaili 3 months ago
@iliginjaili just recapture the bishop with Nxc3, and then after dxc3, Qc3, and he'll only be able to defend the pawn with Qf6, after which you'll play Bg5, attacking the queen, and the queen has nowhere to go other than g6. If he offers up a queen trade with either Nb4 or Ne5 then you'll accept the trade with Bxf6, and after Nxd3, then Bxg7, and he's gonna lose the rook: there's no escape for it xD
tijuanamarisol666 1 week ago
@iliginjaili The best your opponent can do is try to distract you by attacking the bishop on c4 with Nb2. No threat there, just move Bb2 and then capture the rook. Black hos no good counter play. All you have to be cautious of now is his passed pawn on c3, so just make sure he doesn't get a chance to promote it and you'll have an easy game, with a HUGE advantage ;)
tijuanamarisol666 1 week ago
woww nice game in the end xD
HolyEyEolo 3 months ago
As favoredsong said, your recommendation of 8...Ke7 is utterly ridiculous and shows that you have no idea what you're talking about.
fsr1960 3 months ago
is a boobi fisher a type of bird?
MoPar7055 3 months ago
I love the fact that everybody is going nuts over that video, after all, it's snow from yesterday. If you always try to check out everything before you play, you will never enjoy chess, 'cause you are just trying to win, in order to satisfy your ego. Something else is missing in your life, probably a big chunk of happiness or any real career goal, play your own openings and make decisions without consulting other people as much as possible. Try chess960, to see how spontaneous you are. Good luck
favoredsongs 4 months ago
@favoredsongs Brainy people..
RandyIsC0o00o0L 3 months ago
after 7 ... dxc3, white should then play Qb3 rather than Qd5
ChessYoshi 4 months ago
LOL Too funny. Was the creator of this video simply reading the moves out of a book? How else can it be explained that black plays 8...Ke7? Why the heck would black play Ke7 in that position? Any novice-level chess player sees that this move simply loses. I will continue to look for videos on the Evan's gambit because you clearly don't know what you're even doing a video on.
DarkInception1 4 months ago
what if he doesnt take the pawn with bishop and instead uses the knight to take the pawn??
samewoody 4 months ago
@samewoody then c5 gains a tempo, kicking the knight away, and d4 gets a second tempo forcing the bishop to move. Such a play would result in a huge loss in time and development for black.
Shockwave109 4 months ago
at 3:00 why cant black play queen to f6
rilinddd 5 months ago
@rilinddd 'cause Bg5 is a very dangerous threat that black can not permit.
alsan91 5 months ago
The future of chess is in Chess960 or FRC. This takes us back to pure chess where there is no - at the moment - opening theory. Chess960 takes a player out of their comfort zone and truely tests their understanding of the game.
Traditional chess relies heavily on opening theory and prepartion away from the board. it has become stale and boring.
ALEKHINE1927 6 months ago
black taking on d4 is actually the mainline -.- and not a bad idea -.-
tayrone2001 6 months ago
@whocares332332 After 8. ... Qe7 9. Bg5, then black plays 9. ... Nf6 10. Bxf6 Qxf6 and white is down two pawns. Black has a passed pawn on c3 and wins easily.
tenderchkn 6 months ago
sorry i apologize Bg5***
whocares332332 7 months ago
u play halo 3 too?
GoldenBoyXCM 7 months ago
has anyone else ever noticed that most if not all grandmasters just resign out of a game instead of trying to fight in case of a blunder i know its super unlikely but still.....
goalsavior 8 months ago
@goalsavior I think GMs resign out of blunders mostly out of respect for their opponents, which are most of the time also GMs. Against a lower player, the GM usually play on after a blunder as a way of saying "I can still beat you even after blundering"
vokuheila 6 months ago
the evans gambit is fun to play in blitz but i think the reason you don't see it at top-level play is because it has been analyzed so thoroughly and there are many ways that black can equalize or simply stand better in a forced endgame. I would recommend checking out some of Fischer's games with it, definitely instructive.
OnlineChessLessons 8 months ago
Black side doesn't "have to move to e7 etc.. he/she could easily take your pawn with its knight on c6 an he'll be safe from danger.
TheWizard101dude 8 months ago 2
I like all your videos but sometime you speak a lot I feel por.
n1407 8 months ago
if night goes to g5 then black can play his night to h6
what can do white after that?
CaptainHabib 9 months ago
cool video. i think the Evans might actually be a strong gambit and it's definitely a lot easier for black to decline the sacrifice.
OnlineChessLessons 9 months ago
i thought the mouse in this video was my mouse.. :P
ryota474 9 months ago
after b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5 6. d4 exd5 7. 0-0 dxc3 8. Qd5, Qe7 white has the shot 9. Ba3 if black were to play d6 white would win a bishop or his pawn back, if 9. Nf6 , 10. Bxe7, Nxd5. 11. exd5 and white it up a piece, so despite Qe7 white can come out of this line with material or central control and open lines.
willischui 10 months ago
@willischui 9. ... Bb4 would be a more accurate response to Ba3 than the ones you listed.
mlu9 9 months ago
Yeah this is very wrong. Jrobi I love your videos man but I must say Qe7 on move 8 is actually better for black, maybe better would have been Qb3 for whites 8th move. Still black is ahead but this line may well be playable I think what do you think?
tomdreamevil 10 months ago
at 9:05 why not mave the black rook to g7 so when white takes the queen the bishop can take white rook
bumpytrip 11 months ago
@bumpytrip The position at 9:05 is a mate in 7, so any move is equally bad, but 17...Rxg7 actually leads to a mate in 3 with 18. Qxh4+ f6 19. Qxf6+ Re7 20. Qxe7#
JesseIsKillingIt 10 months ago
or the queen goes to e7? instead moving the king?
CaptainHabib 11 months ago
why has he got to move the king to e7?
he can move the queen to f6 what then?
CaptainHabib 11 months ago
this is by far the best opening i have ever used, declined or accepted
realcampusman 11 months ago
what if black responds to the gambit with Kc6-b4?
scritor40 11 months ago
at 8:40 i would have played re1 winning the queen
valentijnraw 11 months ago
@valentijnraw The bishop on a5 controls e1
Roxz80 11 months ago
@valentijnraw
I'm afraid that would have ended in a mate in one after Qxe1.
Deschainpk 11 months ago
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kokonade 1 year ago
jrobichess,
I think you should respond to favoredsongs remark
tubetentort 1 year ago
I agree with favoredsongs, after 8. Qd5 instead of Ke7, black in fact has the major advantage, in fact, about 2 points advantage.
OnlyJustUnknown 1 year ago
Thanks for sharing that's very useful stuff
WEITESTAL 1 year ago
what if the knight took the pawn, would you still be able to play the gambit.
PHRATBOY56 1 year ago
I don't think your explanation for why not to play 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. b4 Bxb4 5.c3 Ba5 6.d4 exd4 is remotely satisfactory. First, after 7.0-0 I rarely see the move 7....cxd3 played, but your lines aren't bad for black.. typically moves like Nge7 or d6 are played. 2nd, even if cxd3 is played and white plays 8. Qd5 then Qe7 more than holds for black and white is down 2 pawns with very little compensation. 8.Qb3 would be better than Qd5 but i still perfer black.
qjuice14 1 year ago
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@GarzaHector9 QD8-E7, NF3-E5, NG8-H6, BC1xNH6, G7xBH6. Same spot, black is worse off.
Or
QD8-E7, NF3-G5, F7-F6, NG5-F7. Black loses a rook
Or say Black seeing this ^ decides to pull a fast one and moves NC6-B4 attacking the queen, white simply plays QD5xBA5, NB4-C2, QA5xC3, NC1xRA1, QC3xNA1. Black lost a night, pawn, and bishop. White only lost a rook.
itzhaseo 1 year ago
love the final position
MNVisscher 1 year ago
You really suck dude, in the Game Fischer - Fine one can see what your mistake is, the Queen has to go to b3 in order to create danger, on d5 nothing is going to happen, the Queen simply goes to e7, the Knight on b1 cannot take the pawn anymore 'cause it's protected by the Bishop.
You're not competent enough, go to school again before you open your mouth like that.
favoredsongs 1 year ago
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favoredsongs 1 year ago
Mistake!! Very embarrassing, after 4. b4 Bxb4 5. c3 Ba5 6. d4 exd5 7. 0-0 dxc3 8. Qd5 .Black does NOT have to reply ith Ke7 , Qe7 will do the job just fine!!!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like you just explained something that messes up people's games, cause they trust you....
favoredsongs 1 year ago 58
@favoredsongs just to add on to that, Ke7?? is a mate in 5! for example: 2.Qxf7 Kd6 3.Rd1 Nd4 4.Rxd4 Kc5 5.Qd5 Kb6 6.Qb5#
chumbucket843 1 year ago
@favoredsongs
actually the entire line is flawed why not move queen to b3 after castle?
its a stronger move IMO and leads to Qf6 in order to protect against mate
this leads to whites extremely strong move Bg5. black responds with Qg6 to keep with the protection.
then white takes pawn with Nc3 black responds nf6 to castle quickly.
either way if queen plays D5 then it loses a massive advantage in position over Qb3
MCkillU 1 year ago
@favoredsongs yeah ok but then you have e5 to pressure queen with re1 following and a world of trouble awaits...
zendenball 11 months ago
@favoredsongs
Learn about the deflection tactic before you put comments like this. If Qe7 then white responds Ng5.
stachuu771 11 months ago
@stachuu771, Ng5, so? Black can play Nh6 and castle as well, the point is it's not a checkmate in one, I've played that version and my opponent played Ng5, didn't bring him shit. The Queen needs to be behind the Bishop, not the other way!
favoredsongs 11 months ago
@favoredsongs Rook to h6 would be a nice decision also.
StillAwak3 11 months ago
@favoredsongs white can play Ng5 and black is still in a world of hurt
divljipirat1 11 months ago
@favoredsongs idiot
jofelko23 10 months ago
@favoredsongs idiot.
that is the possible variation.think before you complain...idiot..you just say what you can see but not what you didn't knw. calculator please.i think this man has need abacus..
jofelko23 10 months ago
@favoredsongs Yes, but then white can still continue and trade queens which you may not want to do
shorty12366 10 months ago
@favoredsongs aren't you supposed to look at the board b4 u make a move? "Trust" completely irrelevant in this particular game, all u have to do is what u did, look at the board and make ur decision if anyone "trusts" Jrobi and makes only the moves he recommends he will of course lose and not improve but if u use his videos as a guideline u will improve in leaps and bounds. Jrobi UR THE MAN!
KBoogs719 9 months ago
@KBoogs719 Very smart, indeed, you're right, it is very important to play your own game, I have learned that lesson very well after too many 'supersmart' videos here on youtube . However, that doesn't change the fact that this 'jrobi' was talking rubbish. It's about caring what one sells as 'truth'. There were people who agreed on that. So, therefore, your comment is rubbish, too. It's not important anymore for me, but since you're such a big fan of that guy, I suggest you move in with him ;-))
favoredsongs 9 months ago
@favoredsongs there were people who agreed with Adolph Hitler and Pol Pot, i dont see ur point. These are guideline videos, if u can do better then post your own, dont bash on his, he always admits to not being a master level player and taking that as a given, u have to watch these videos with some discretion at the same time u should also be watching other videos and checking the positions with an engine assistant so u really cant bash jrobi for a small oversight, dont be crabby, we r chessers
KBoogs719 9 months ago
@KBoogs719 I see, you're one of those boys who have to have the last word, because they are insecure about the fact that their statement is more than weak. I already told you, these videos are not posted by jrobi as if they were only his thoughts, his comments are presented as a given. Also, I suggest you keep you nazi comparison to yourself, it's getting way out of hand. This is my last comment, you obviously don't get the point, besides, what I write to jrobi is not your business anyway. Adios
favoredsongs 9 months ago
@favoredsongs In fact, after 7... dxc3, White usually plays 8. Qb3, not 8. Qd5. Although Black can play something else besides 7... dxc3, like 7... Nge7, which statistically is the best move for Black after 7. O-O.
xactxx 8 months ago
he didn't screw up at all dumbass after Qe7 all white has to do is Bf5 and its game over basically through any variation
whocares332332 7 months ago
@favoredsongs you are wrong Bf5 destroys Qe7 instantly
whocares332332 7 months ago
@favoredsongs I think the GM game at the end of the video shows you what to do if Qe7
daemonowner 6 months ago
@favoredsongs Qe7 is a known line. Please do research before criticizing. He even gave an example at the end where Qe7 was played and got smashed.
vokuheila 6 months ago
@favoredsongs i agree with you 100% but i think white can respond by moving the knight and putting black in an awkward position by Ng5 and play something along there possibly.....but idk
goalsavior 6 months ago
@favoredsongs Yea...this was made like 4 years ago, so who gives a crap? He wasn't extremely experienced back then, if you spot something, cudos. Don't be an ass about it though, lol.
Zenthel76 5 months ago
@favoredsongs I think that after playing 8...Qe7 white can easily play Bg5 and you are in serious trouble again.
alsan91 5 months ago
@favoredsongs
I think the problem here is not what to play exactly, than white has many option and is attacking while black has to defend its position a lot and to do so will lose tempo.
nbarrosuriburu 4 months ago
maybe the idea is 9. Ng5. If Nf6, 10. Qxf7+ Qxf7 11. Bxe7+, black castle no more, the white will developing Be3 or g5 - Na3-c2(blocking pawn) Rfe1, Rad1 while black needs Nf6, d6 [b6/a6 - b5 is slower but could be Bb7] Bg4 - Rad8 - Rhe8 - Kf8 and here we will have white attack in kingside. another idea is in fischer play - instead Qd5 playing Qb3. Another thing to see is 9. Re1 and try to push with e pawn.
nbarrosuriburu 4 months ago
@favoredsongs You are completely wrong, just like the 48 other idiots that gave u thumbs up. He knows what hes talking about much better then you and showed how Qe7 will just make things worse...Im not as mad at u as at those idiots that gave u thumbs up
moneymakerforlife 4 months ago
@moneymakerforlife It's ironic how you call favoredsongs an idiot, yet you seem lack the basic creativity to think for yourself. First of all, jrobi never "showed how Qe7 will just make things worse". He never even mentioned Qe7, as (I'm assuming) the move didn't occur to him at the time. And I love how, in spite of your obvious frustration, you still failed to come up with a single reason why Qe7 is a bad move. Keep grasping at straws, buddy. :)
stupidguy97 3 months ago 3
@stupidguy97 Wow youre such an idiot if you havent noticed he already went over this move, and showed how it lead to a loss. Why am I wasting my time?
moneymakerforlife 3 months ago
@moneymakerforlife In case you're unable to figure this out for yourself, Qe7 means QUEEN e7, not KING e7. jrobi never mentioned the move; if he did, why don't you try and point out where? Fucking idiot. Clearly, you haven't watched the video at all. Or are you just trolling?
stupidguy97 3 months ago 8
@favoredsongs too right! and wheres the Ng5 attack???
ThePurdom 4 months ago
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@favoredsongs too right! and wheres the Ng5 attack???
ThePurdom 4 months ago
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@favoredsongs too right! and wheres the Ng5 attack???
ThePurdom 4 months ago
1- I love your vids! They help me in tournaments! (Imma novice.)
2- You sound like the pilot in an airplane. Lol
3- Keep making these! I'll try to watch all your vids!
WulfPMG 1 year ago
Couldn't black capture the pawn with the Knight instead?
drd1982 1 year ago
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at 2:45 following it says: 6. d4 xd4 7. O-O xc3 8. Qd5 and then king to e7???
what is so wrong at protecting the pawn with Qe7 or Qf6??
id dont get it. i tried id al lot of times, but i saw no way white is winning..
DerHolde 1 year ago
at 2:45 following it says: 6. d4 xd4 7. O-O xc3 8. Qd5 and then king to e7???
what is so wrong at protecting the pawn with Qe7 or Qf6??
id dont get it. i tried id al lot of times, but i saw no way white is winning..
DerHolde 1 year ago
@DerHolde
yes, this is also my question
chanabnagar 1 year ago
Thanks for the lesson, man.
blujazz3000 1 year ago
Idk how I got here. I'm scared. D:
torrisrox 1 year ago
You dismiss Bd6 as being weak:
5...Bd6 This is called the Stone-Ware defense after Henry Nathan Stone and Preston Ware. The move reinforces the e5-pawn and been played by several grandmasters such as Andrei Volokitin, Alexander Grischuk and Loek van Wely.
MrK623 1 year ago
Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but if you did start eating away at his pawn structure and he lines his bishop and queen together, can't you just put your knight on the rim for defense?
If he moves his knight kingside to attack, you can add another defender with your queen. If he moves it queenside you can take it with your own knight and offer up a bishop trade, and if you can manage a queenside castle, he'll have no pawns to attack your formation.
subvertandusurp 1 year ago
at 2:43, following could be simly dxe5 . No matter how the pawn is taken, black loses material
Example one (counted from this postion): 1. dxe5, Nxe5 2. Nxe5 dx5 3. Bxf7+! Ke7 (taking loses queen) 4. Ba3+ Kxf7 5. Qxd8. This is won for black.
Example two: 1. dxe5 dxe5 2. Qxd8+ Kxd8 3. Bxf7
Varation 1. dxe5 dxe5 2. Qxd8+ Nxd8 3. Ne5
Here the black king is exposed and cannot castle, and white has a castled king. White should give up the pawn on e5 instead of defend it.
iodon 1 year ago
How much have you been studying chess?
iambehindthemirror 1 year ago
Stone-Ware Denfense 5)...Bd6. I've been studying the Italian Game {3)...Bc5 variation} and it seems that 5)...Bd6 is a viable response.
7redkingsize 1 year ago
Bishop back to f8 is also acceptable, I believe that's what Anand played vs. Kasparov.
cacpotify 1 year ago
the beginning reminds me of the classical ruy lopez
aaplesauce 1 year ago
Left out the most topical line for the accepted, the Bd6 Stone-Ware variation.
Tengoshi 1 year ago
at 3:30 what if black plays pawn to F6?
Chrizzle0213 1 year ago
After B-c4 and and Q-d5 for white, why black will move K-e7 ? it should be Q-e7 protecting pawn on f7 and if white responds with Bg5 then black will respond with f6 protecting queen and now position is well balanced.,. I am wondering why its like that?
vjisdj 1 year ago
when you say,.."should he take the pawn with the bishop".. why cant he just simply use the knight?.. 1:20 -ish
PierreLombardini 1 year ago
@PierreLombardini that knight is protecting the pawn at e5
iamScodal 1 year ago
At 3:03, it seems Black does NOT have to reply with ...Ke7. Why can't he simply play ...Qe7?
davidemerling 1 year ago
5:49 you are losing a piece in that exchange
luismi84pucela 1 year ago
I think they prefer african american
oseijeman 1 year ago
At 3:09 isn't it better to play Bf4+? rather than checking with the rook?
I'm guessing you can pretty much destroy him in couple more moves afterwards?
MagoMinelli 1 year ago
When black plays Bishop to c5 I play d5.
ZappZoZ 1 year ago
at 8:32 black has 1. ...Nd8 (protecting the f7 square) and the game play continues 2. Bd2 BxBd2 3. NxBd2 O-O even though white is fully developed, black isnt necessarily in a "hopeless/dead" position
~Aqua
GoGoAqua928 1 year ago
What about Qf6 as a response when white plays Qd5?
Movic06 1 year ago
queen e7....
DanielMundinger 1 year ago
After 8.Qd5? Qe7! White has poor compensation for the material. In the Fischer-Fine game 8.Qb3! Qe7?! is indeed dubious (indoubitably dubious) and, as Fischer points out in his notes, Fine should have played 8...Qf6 instead. But the two positions 8.Qd5 and 8.Qb3 are completely different - you can't say that because 8...Qe7 is bad in one that it's bad in the other.
mattbastardsen 1 year ago
my favorite quote from Jrobi is "Uhh..." xD
AwesomeSeanable 1 year ago
This opening is also along the lines of my personal favorite opening that I always use, which is known as the Legal Trap. , Which puts pressure on the F7Pawn, leading to mate.
TheSkoobaSeb 1 year ago
@cacpotify: I saw that too and wondered about it, but if black takes the rook on E8 then white can move bishop to F6 check, and the only move is for black to take with queen, otherwise the queen will be lost. From there White can take the black rook with the queen, landing another check, and once black moves the king, white can take the bishop with the rook sitting on A8.
LabMonkey12 1 year ago
what if the black takes B4 pawn with a C6 knight? seems lot more probable to me
LukeGeoDude 1 year ago
Okay so I was analyzing this match of Fischer and... wow.. move to like 8:54 when the rook comes to e1 and checks.. the black square bishop could have taken the rook, right?
cacpotify 1 year ago
aww y cant black move his queen at e7? at 3:03. and black will be up pieces.
69hwoarang 1 year ago
what if black takes the gambit pawn with the knight?
wiiiissam 1 year ago
If black plays d6 then white can exchange the pawns and then once the queens are traded white can take the pawn on f7.
Rapidfire220 1 year ago
y cant black move QE7 or QF6...y must move the king
HOnestPerson19 1 year ago
black should take c 3 also - 2 for one 1 ok. in this case.
TheRedBlueBlues 1 year ago
isn't Qe7 solves black problem on 2:56??
toonyguerra 1 year ago
I'm a very novice amateur player but would like to educate myself in chess strategy and I even think it is a good game to develop strategic thinking skills. What book or video would you recommend for a beginner like me?
jjbb81 1 year ago
Correct me if I'm being stupid here, but at 3:48 why does black not push his d or f pawn up, attacking the knight and forcing it to move before capturing the bishop?
PenguinonaPogo 1 year ago
what happens if black captures b4 with the knight? Kxb4?
METALLICAa7xOZZY 1 year ago
Then the pawn on e5 would be undefended.
Rapidfire220 1 year ago
When threatened with the mate at 3:00 why can't the reply by Qe7?
Rapidfire220 1 year ago
Okay, its fine and I see it was better than moving the king.
Rapidfire220 1 year ago
for fishers a4, dosent Qg6 solve the issues? and black is 2 pawns up too.. am missing something here:(
venky2582 1 year ago
that's why fischer is a genius
raoulhery 1 year ago
at 3:03...what about Nh6
abhinayan27 1 year ago
Bc1xNh6, g8xh6, Qf7#
kmart1303 1 year ago
badass opening!
vikasbhardwaj007 1 year ago
I'm with BOYWONDER20090 - I didn't go through any follow-up variations after Queen e7, but it certainly seems logical at a quick glance... even if it isn't the correct move, it certainly seems natural enough were it should have been explained in the video.
stavros8705 1 year ago
Very interesting... I'm going to try this opening. Thanks for posting!
BigStupidFingers 1 year ago
8:56 why doesnt bishop capture the rook ?
wiiiissam 1 year ago
if you watch the game, it really doesnt matter. fischer knows if black takes the rook with his bishop, then white simply takes the bishop with his other rook, still putting black in check on e1, and from there, the same outcome... at best, black would be trading his queen for that rook, and when dealing with grandmasters that is enough to resign a match.
joshisasecret 1 year ago
at 3:00 Ke7?? you lost me, wouldn't Qe7 be much better?
BOYWONDER20090 1 year ago
of course... Qd5 is no real threat at all and my chess program Arasan finds nothing better than Qb3 to attack. then follows Qf6 to defend, after e5 black playes Qf5 and is about 1,2 pawns up. his King wont castle and rather will go to d8 from where he will go on to c7 eventually after playing c6. well its a bad place for him anyway but the hard things is, white must avoid exchanges by all means while the black queen is very nice on the f file.
pawnscrusher 1 year ago
yeah I thought that was strange too
wiiiissam 1 year ago
after Qe7 white can place its bishop on g5 and attack with further attacking possibilities after that on both the king and queen
arankangi 1 year ago
i agree completely, i would NEVER expect a player to move the king unwillingly, let alone when Qe7 is available. even if white plays Ba3, black can protect iwith both the pawn or bishop.... this is retarded
joshisasecret 1 year ago
@BOYWONDER20090 If you Qe7, I would Ba3
jigglypuffdude 1 year ago
@jigglypuffdude
After Ba3 what happens if Bb4 or Nb4 or just d6.
tensaihairygorilla 1 year ago
Nice video. What program do you use for doing the walkthrough and analysis game?
keydetpiper 1 year ago
I tend to get into a lot of trouble if black plays knight to f6 instead of moving his bishop to c4 at the start.
Murreh 2 years ago
what happens if instead the knight takes the gambit pawn instead???
puchodog1977 2 years ago
@puchodog1977 then white can use the f3 knight to recapture the e5 pawn making material equal
ToodYou 2 years ago
@ToodYou
and then what happens when black responds ... Qf6!
threatening the knight and checkmate?
I think if 4 ... Nxb4 white should reply 5. c3 but I'm not an expert by any means. cause if 5. Nxe5 Qf6 has a good reply I'd like to know it.
KFPrime 1 year ago
@3:01 WHY NOT QUEEN E7?
Onetazien 2 years ago
ummmmm pawn?
puchodog1977 2 years ago
So I see Ke7 was an mistake what is better then Qd5 like played or Qb3 like Fisscher played it? really like this format hope to see more content coming soon
sirilidion 2 years ago
In the last position taking the queen also wins, but it is nicer to take the bishop with the a rook, keeping the same treat in the position.
I always got interesting games when playing the Evans gambit and had some nice results with it.
jajabrink i think Qe7 is the best option black has (position at 3:01?). The King move looks awfull and Nh6 just loses the knight imidiatly
serrie85 2 years ago
can anyone explain y queen e7 is not the best move? even if the queen is threatened with bg5, black queen can move to e6 and offer a queen trade. if trade is denied, then there will no more be mate in 1
jajabrink 2 years ago
i want to know more about the icelandic gambit
aelarath 2 years ago
if Qe7 I like Ba3,d6,Bb5,Bb6 (taking out defender and threatning Qxa5) then Nxc3 with a solid centre for white
fullrad 2 years ago
What is your ELO???
STJukes 2 years ago
instructional video thanks
MrAlobar52 2 years ago
at 3:00 why does the king move instead of placing the queen at e7? if im wrong correct me pplz :D
GarzaHector9 2 years ago 20
@GarzaHector9
What would I decide to do if the Queen did indeed move to e7 ?
Heh, just starting out on chess openings and got through RuyLopez, learning Giuoco Piano now =x
luciusxx 2 years ago