@bigkeno What I personally had in mind was emotion — happiness, sadness, anger and fear. I wasn't expecting people to guess that, just giving room for different interpretations.
@TheraminTrees Funny, the first few times i watched this i thought the drawers were subjects of importance, and their colour was one's personal opinion on the subjects, while the empty spaces were feelings that were undiscovered, unexpressed, or even repressed on purpose.
After watching it again now i can see your angle has good merit too.. in all regards a superb video still more than 3 years later, and i suspect it will be when a zero can be added to it's age even ;))
There are a lot of little details that aren't immediately apparent, but definitely become clearer the more I watch this, such as the letters on the completed shelf, and the flowers on the wallpaper.
@starofcctv94 At 4:15 you can see the complete bookshelf. Look at all the letters. Write them all down. They spell a word. HINT: the first word is ALL.
As the young man talks to his parents at 4:34, look at the wallpaper. Now, at 4:49. You see the flowers on the wallpaper opening up for him when he says "They didn't have a clue". When the view returned to his parents, 'their' wallpaper still had closed flowers.
@Aphotic0221 I also just noticed the first time he read the bible in bed at 3:32, his lampshade cast glowing hearts across the room, but the second time he read the bible, the shade was of a bat, at 4:02.
day 40... no sign of finalfantasy8911 comment. still searching... running out of food and water.... day 45 .... i killed my horse to ate it. im drinking my sweat because i ran out of water.. AND I STILL CANT FIND THAT FUCKING COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!11
The sad reality and the situations in which children are faced with, truly an eye opening vid to most,i hope the message get's trough to them. By the way, i gotta give credit on the animation and everything else the vid has included, props.
But its not really that. The analogy is that people get too dogmatic and say that their way is the one way. Condemning in the process anyone that is different. An example would indeed be christians condemning jews, because they do not accept jesus. Or more extreme condeming anyone with a different religion as they do not follow Christianity. If you read some of TT his comments you will understand better.
It's tough to analogize it to current dogma. It's more like beliefs, take all the things in the bible and you have certain core beliefs and certain beliefs that most christians don't believe anymore (paying rape victims' fathers, etc). So each drawer and its location could be considered a belief. Sanjay could be a Jew, the narrator a catholic, and his uncle a fundamentalist christian.
That's not a good analogy either, because then being an atheist would mean not having a cupboard.
You are correct, Two weeks ago Valendros is wrong. I re-read my comment and thought on the analogy I proposed, looked up the definition of belief, and you're correct.
We need new words. A belief that is held without evidence, and a belief that is held with supporting evidence.
This is an amazing piece of work and I like the concept. I have one question on this at the end of the video it states, 'I learned to but books in their place' do you want this to be interpreted as we should not allow religion to blind us and control our life or that we should act out against religious dogma or is it something altogether different?
@williamrknowles It is meant to be interpreted that we should never put too much faith in religion, especially in something as mundane as a book. I for one, have had several Christians try to use the Bible as supporting evidence, but truthfully, it is still just a book, no more important than any other book in existance.
@williamrknowles i interpret it as, you should understand as much as you can from all religions and build your own opinions on life whether you believe a little of everything, or absolutely none of it.
@hypn0tickbr The moral is to make your own decisions in life, and not follow a manual. (aka religious book) It also tries to show that you should not judge people, because of what they believe.
ok so you had a bad experience with your parents and now ALL CHRISTIANS are possessed ? lol Buddy if you are so smart you should know that not all christians are like your parents. My parents are Christian have always given me the choice to open my mind and do as I please. As long as I don't harm others. Just know that not all atheists are like joseph Stalin... in the same way not all christian parents will treat their kids like your parents did.
@KingDcome11 'ok so you had a bad experience with your parents and now ALL CHRISTIANS are possessed ?'
—er .... nope. The irony here is that you've done exactly what you've falsely accused me of. You've made a complete overgeneralisation. You've not only missed the video description, you've ignored key aspects of the actual video — eg Uncle George isn't possessed. This isn't about christianity — it's about bullying with dogma. And nowhere does it say ANY group is ALL possessed.
@TheraminTrees but you are presenting your story and generalizing even if that wasn't your purpose. Not only did you accuse your parents of being like possessed but in the video you showed some other people who had your parents beliefs and even told you You would go to hell if you don't change your views. You tried to sound like a loving victim and presented your parents as hypocrites who actually did not even follow the manual as the manual says to love and they had NO LOVE.
@KingDcome11 First off, not everything's as literal as you see it. The parents in this video are a metaphor for the bullying part of society. We also have Sanjay and Uncle George, who've not sat in judgement, but have been judged/rejected. Second, where does this video's manual talk about love? Nowhere. If you don't want to hear what the video description is saying — that this is not about any one belief system — then just say, and we can end a pointless exchange.
@TheraminTrees I'm obviously not as intelligent as you are so I might have misunderstood the message since you only portrayed Religion ( reading the book, going to church). And the part about Love, It's the part where the parents are insulting the kid and he says " I love you" and then parents feel ashamed because they were suppose to love according to their beliefs but they didn't. Can you explain to me what's the message then? bulling happens everywhere ( yes even among atheist who bully Rel
@KingDcome11 There is no church, or synagogue, etc. There is a building with a teacher, and an instruction manual. The parents aren't ashamed merely because they're 'supposed to love according to their beliefs' — love's not even mentioned as part of their 'beliefs'. They're ashamed because they realise their bullying. The video is a critique of oppressive indoctrination — silencing valid questions, dishonouring curiosity and honesty by substituting reason with dogma.
@TheraminTrees igious people. Who is right here and who is wrong? Someone who says to know truth and bullies others for not believing as he does? well I have seen religious judging others for not partaken of their beliefs just like I have seen atheists who bully others for being religious. Is your message suppose to tell people ( yes even atheists) to respect other people's beliefs? even when they are wrong? because if that's your message your channel speaks differently.
@KingDcome11 'Is your message suppose to tell people ( yes even atheists) to respect other people's beliefs?'
—No. Nothing so insipid and meaningless. If your beliefs tell you all Asian people deserve to die, then they're not worth spit. The point of the video is to honour truth — hence the boy builds the cupboard, contradictions and all. He honours the reality of the manual — and is punished by those who want to suppress that reality.
@TheraminTrees glad to know that There are many religious who don't tell you to go and kill people. So I'm guessing that since many religions show or talk about love YOU would respect them right? Just like THEY would respect your beliefs right? I don't think you have people trying to kill for being atheist right? Well I'm glad that you are teaching people to respect others people's opinions. Because me and you know for sure that not everyone is as smart as you to see things in your perspective
@KingDcome11 'I don't think you have people trying to kill for being atheist right?'
—Death threats've been a constant feature since I announced my atheism on here 4 years ago. I have some obsessive types right now threatening to kill me because of my atheism. Would they do it if given the chance? Who knows what goes on in such minds. As for respecting religions that show/talk of love — I'd respect the love, the person who shows it, and the aspects of their beliefs that are justified/evidenced.
@TheraminTrees hahah . WELL one thing is for sure. They are not Christians. Because TRUE Christians obey Jesus who said to "love onet another and love your enemies". So YES I agree some people are very religious. BUT WE MUST learn to separate people who have religon and harm others from those who have Godand would only pray for you. JUST LIKE I have separated Atheists like Joseph Stalin from atheists like you. YOU ARE BOTH different even though you both don't believe in God. :)
—Actually yep, some are, and some are muslims. The christians among them can justify themselves scripturally as much as any other christian — that's the beauty of that strange old bible which supports vastly conflicting moralities. Difference with Stalin — no atheist scripture. His tyranny wasn't about atheism, but political dogma. Do all collectivists want stalinist regimes? No more than all christians would kill me. See? No trouble separating folk.
@TheraminTrees Christian means follower of Christ.(his teachings)CHRISTIANS will not hate you or try to kill you. They might get mad but for sure won't threaten people. Just because someone disobeys the master doesn't make the master or religion bad. As you make an argument about Stalin I can say the same. Hating you is not scriptural at all. so those hating you have gone out of the manual.Do most Christians want a religion about hate? I would not think so. even thou some have used it as such
@KingDcome11 'Christian means follower of Christ.(his teachings)'
—And as I've just said: 'The christians among them can justify themselves scripturally as much as any other christian — that's the beauty of that strange old bible which supports vastly conflicting moralities.' Not everyone sees a 'gentle Jesus'. Many take 'come with a sword' very literally.
'Just because someone disobeys the master doesn't make the master or religion bad.'
—I've made no such argument, so that's a straw men.
@TheraminTrees Those who take things literally are obviously not aware of the teachings of Jesus. You can;t just read one verse to understand Jesus, you gotta read the gospels and see how He was a man of peace and never hurt anyone . It is obvious we are not getting anywhere with this convo. Anyways good luck with everything! nice having a dialogue with you. Peace
@KingDcome11 'Those who take things literally are obviously not aware of the teachings of Jesus. You can;t just read one verse ....'
—But they're not just reading a verse are they, they're reading it all in a different context to you — both sides can argue the other side doesn't see Jesus's 'real' message. When I was a christian, I saw Jesus as positive and peaceful — and would've argued other ideas were misguided. But I realised there's enough in the bible to sustain many interpretations. cont
'It is obvious we are not getting anywhere with this convo.'
—Arguing 'true christian' is a dead end — from any christian viewpoint. Like stepping into a car that drives round in circles and expecting to get somewhere. It's bound to fail because it hopes to disambiguate the bible, which is hopelessly elastic and open to interpretation, in places promoting horrendous sadomasochistic ideas. But anyway I do think we got somewhere — if you consider the very start of this exchange. Peace to you.
@TheraminTrees I'm of the opinion that it is deliberately so, the reason being whatever the holy man says, goes. I see it as an outdated method of social control, which in itself is not necessarily bad.
I've been thinking we need to find a way to make reason fun so it appeals to kids and teaches critical reasoning. I've thought something like a Vulcan Academy, something fun & instructional. Then perhaps a Kolinahr Society. We need more rational and logical thinkers in this crazy world. Maybe the Internet and vids like this is my idea already here. Thanks for you wonderful video.
@missmonsi321 The people like to argue. The people that do are represented by the parents in the video. Me, I prefer to not call it religion. I have a set of beliefs, and they differ from yours, and everyone has a different belief, but people need to learn to see past this and accept each other. I think the video was about not judging others and not fearing different beliefs.
WHY IS EVERYBODY SIDING OFF TO LIKE ATHEIST OR BELIEVER. WE ARE ALL PEOPLE. WE USE RULES AND MORALS TO GUIDE OUR LIVES. DIFFRENT CULTURES CREATED DIFFRENT MANUALS. THIS WAS ABOUT FINDING YOUR OWN MANUAL AND ACCEPTING OTHER PEOPLE DO TO. AND LETTING GO OF THE BELIEF THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THE SAME MANUAL. IN THE END ALL RELIGION(INCLUDING ATHEISM) IS ABOUT LOVE. sorry for the caps but felt like i needed to express this clearly.
I loved this video, and I'm a muslim. When I watched this, I had no idea it was about athiesm. I thought it was about change and creativity as a person, and basically religion.
I scroll down to read the comments, and you guys ruin everything!! The comments are loaded with crap and bullshit from both sides and it's all just plain hate. I can't watch this video anymore because I firmly believe in my religion. I didn't have to know it was about atheism, I could've haveSeen ItThroughMyEyesInstead.
This is a load of crap that attempts to trivialize religious text. The fact is that ALL the major religions respect and acknowledge other scripture. To not do so is contravening the spirit of the such texts.
The problems is that atheists cannot accept that there are many processes designed to bring a person to understand a wonderful God with an unlimited myriad of characteristics.
@hdregmore Spoken like someone who just doesn't get it. We think it's a shame and a perversion that so many people think they know things for which there has never been a shred of evidence, yet are willing to waste their lives chasing ghosts - and frequently wage war on each other in the process. You are preternaturally pathetic.
@hdregmore Why do we do this? Because we are SICK AND TIRED of hearing the same outrageous CRAP with NO EVIDENCE for any of it, that's why! You are nothing but a tone troll - you only address how I say something but evade the substance as usual, because *YOU GOT NOTHIN'*!
For thousands of years religion has demanded undeserved and automatic respect, always with the threat of violence behind it for those who don't give it to them. Now that that's changing and YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!
@hdregmore go to reddit and browse r/atheism. open your eyes as we do too. Do not judge before seeing all the evidence that is out there for all parties. We cannot change what you see, only you can.
@theclinger Because you can tell from type of disrespectful and abusive comments that he allow that he has no intention of encouraging meaningful debate.
@hdregmore So first he is going to delete your comment because it is inflammatory, and now he is bad for not removing inflammatory comments? And you are lecturing me on meaningful debate?
@hdregmore Oh my god, my brain. Why did you think he would remove your comment? I'm sorry I said inflammatory, but I didn't think you would read my entire comment and single out a single word.
I. Did. Not. Dismiss. Your. Comment. I merely want to know why you would first think "no doubt this will be removed", and upon finding out he wouldn't, "he has no intention of encouraging meaningful debate". These to me seem contradictory, and I want to know why you don't think so.
@hdregmore Understanding comes, when you are able to put down your religious book and start looking for the real answer for things without fear.
The real shame is that many people are not willing to look for the truth, because it would be inconvenient to find out that they believe in a load of steaming bullshit.
I don't know why, but there's one scene in particular, where the indigo drawer is first seen, that nearly brings me to tears. Maybe it has to do with the musical resolution at the point of discovery that there might be more, maybe there are just some subconscious undertones, who knows. Very powerful video, though.
@Aphotic0221 I must confess, Qualia's music here always makes me feel wobbly. As soon as it starts, I feel choked. And I've heard it thousands of times. It was on repeat play as I was doing the animation.
@TheraminTrees, have you ever considered submitting this to short film contests? I actually think you'd stand more than just a chance at winning something.
@TheraminTrees Personally, I wouldn't touch it. You know, there's a reason people hate George Lucas for doing "some minor changes" on his previous works... ;)
Seriously though, ask any writer. They all know how big the temptation is, but finished works are better left alone, as the results of altering are seldom better than the original.
@ottogentil Thank you — this message made me smile. By minor changes, I meant two incredibly minor changes: a minor rephrasing of a single sentence spoken by one of the peripheral characters — which just felt a tad clunky — and a costume change on a peripheral character. That's all.
@669backstab : Religion will be outgrown and replaced with something more inclusive naturally. It's inevitable. There is no need to euthanize anyone. Your attitude is ironic, as it mirrors the close-mindedness and dogmatism of the dark side in organized religion.
All religious filth must be euthanized. its the only sane way to deal with the dangerous insanity of religion and the extreme harm it does to Humans. There is always a terrible cost when religious vermin believe in gods
The problem as this video proves is that once the cancer of religion is wielded upon a child , the resulting adult can never really be trusted to fully recover. It is through weak cowardly hateful parenting that innocent children suffer at the hands of the faithful. They get the very thing that makes them Human stripped from them and spend the rest of their days trying to get it back. That is of course assuming they realize they are broken in the first place.Religion is child abuse. Very bad.
@699backstab uh dude...u beleive that we should commit genocide WTF man... The only true way everyone will become atheist is through understanding. I agree religion is not doing exactly good things right now but dude, you sound like hitler..
Isnt it time for a mass extinction of religious people. Can we not organize a system whereby if you think there is a god after death then Humans can assist your journey to see your particular god concept. Carbon monoxide, barbiturates, gravity. What ever is cheapest. Send the faithful to see their god concept and use their remains and wealth for Humans to progress. There is 5 billion religious people and we have about 5 billion too many my planet. Its put up or shut up time religious people!
@xDaBeginninGx No I cant be like Hitler because Adolf Hitler was a Catholic. He used his Catholicism to fuel the Final solution to murder 6,000,000 Jews with bullets and Zyklon-B. No no I am not under the spell of the worst Human cancer, religion, and therefore without religion I can never be subject to insane crazy oppression, rape, murder. Look up the evidence that Hitler used religion. I know you are a mind slammed shut religitard low hanging fuit subhuman but try educating yourself kid. :D
@699backstab i was actually talking about how you wanted to kill of humans that had a certain belief. just like hitler.by the way you dont have to be religious to think about murdering people the worst way possible you just have to be insane. heres an example between sane and insane. sane: people who believe in god is stupid so i choose to not believe and not welcome it to my life. insane: you believe in god? let me kill u so u can meet him. case closed ur insane like hitler. get mad <3
If you are a truth seeker, search "Truth Contest" in Google and click on the 1st result, then open The Present and read what it says. Everyone needs to see this. The Present will turn this world right-side up if it reaches enough people. You will see what I mean when you read the first page.
funny, my parents gave me free will to build my own cupboard, took me years to build one, now I know that it doesn't matter what the cupboard looks like, it's what you do with it that matters.
fucking religion, i tend to stay away from all groups that shove shit down your throat, im not bashing any religion im saying my opinion that if people are going to believe what their going to believe so be it but dont go around trying to "convert" people for your so called "mission" i am not athiest, i am agnostic, and if your going to reply to me you better know/learn what agnostic means
UNBELIEVABLY GOOD VIDEO , THANK GOD MY PARENTS DIDN'T STEER ME WRONG . MY CUPBOARD WAS OPEN TO EVERYTHING GOOD . I WOULD LIKE TO POST THIS VIDEO TO MY BLOG .
wow. very good. the two chavs were hilariously drawn.
Iambecome 7 hours ago
@lienmor2 no because he has belief and faith in himself
manoma13 1 day ago
I love the ending with all different cupboards
manoma13 1 day ago
Great vid, thanks a lot : )
arealbladeofgrass 1 day ago
i really like the music, is it downloadable somewhere?
Intangion 1 day ago
That was so beautiful. My goodness. Everyone needs to see this.
DonnieSeriously 6 days ago
Truly a master piece. I'm going go share it with my other friends.
ScroogeMcduck03 6 days ago
Just Wow.
thenoeggplantzone 6 days ago
Who plays the music from the start of the video?
Gambrow 1 week ago
@Gambrow I play the opening clip, then QualiaSoup plays the piano piece.
TheraminTrees 1 week ago
Astonishing.
yarvelling 1 week ago 2
Do the colors on the new cupboard represent earth, water, fire, and wind?
bigkeno 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
@bigkeno What I personally had in mind was emotion — happiness, sadness, anger and fear. I wasn't expecting people to guess that, just giving room for different interpretations.
TheraminTrees 1 week ago
@TheraminTrees Funny, the first few times i watched this i thought the drawers were subjects of importance, and their colour was one's personal opinion on the subjects, while the empty spaces were feelings that were undiscovered, unexpressed, or even repressed on purpose.
After watching it again now i can see your angle has good merit too.. in all regards a superb video still more than 3 years later, and i suspect it will be when a zero can be added to it's age even ;))
GronTheMighty 1 week ago
I cried.
politicoochie09 1 week ago 7
wow... Very nice.
neoman121 1 week ago
books on the shelf, human life on the floor.
wojovox 1 week ago
That was amazing, and the ending made me smile.
Fredhurp 1 week ago
That was beautiful
ImJustFelix 1 week ago
Does anyone know what the japanese writing means (or even how it is pronounced) at 7:28?
kurayamisidekick 2 weeks ago
@kurayamisidekick strong curiosity
HagarenXneko 1 week ago
@HagarenXneko Thanks! It was japanese,right?
Full-metal cat? :p
kurayamisidekick 1 week ago
There are a lot of little details that aren't immediately apparent, but definitely become clearer the more I watch this, such as the letters on the completed shelf, and the flowers on the wallpaper.
Aphotic0221 2 weeks ago in playlist Philosophy
@Aphotic0221 What do the flowers and the letters mean?
starofcctv94 2 weeks ago
@starofcctv94 At 4:15 you can see the complete bookshelf. Look at all the letters. Write them all down. They spell a word. HINT: the first word is ALL.
As the young man talks to his parents at 4:34, look at the wallpaper. Now, at 4:49. You see the flowers on the wallpaper opening up for him when he says "They didn't have a clue". When the view returned to his parents, 'their' wallpaper still had closed flowers.
kurayamisidekick 2 weeks ago
@kurayamisidekick All this bull?
starofcctv94 2 weeks ago
@starofcctv94 Not exactly. It goes All bull---- ;)
I'm sure you now understand.
kurayamisidekick 2 weeks ago
@kurayamisidekick ahhh lol makes more sense
starofcctv94 2 weeks ago
@kurayamisidekick holy crap you're observant.
fenderkid6 1 week ago
@fenderkid6 Someone else noticed it before me, I just went back and found when in the video :)
kurayamisidekick 1 week ago
@Aphotic0221 I also just noticed the first time he read the bible in bed at 3:32, his lampshade cast glowing hearts across the room, but the second time he read the bible, the shade was of a bat, at 4:02.
kurayamisidekick 2 weeks ago
Truly a masterpeice :)
corruptstar1 2 weeks ago
@TheraminTrees Truly a work of art. It really speaks for the people whom have been bullied for having a different belief or simply an open-mind.
zthomasack 3 weeks ago
great story...terrible analogy...
kevinjjfr 3 weeks ago
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6:30 FALCON KICK!
Left2Die4 3 weeks ago
6:30 FALCON KICK!
Left2Die4 3 weeks ago
Absolutely wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
erbell98 3 weeks ago
day 40... no sign of finalfantasy8911 comment. still searching... running out of food and water.... day 45 .... i killed my horse to ate it. im drinking my sweat because i ran out of water.. AND I STILL CANT FIND THAT FUCKING COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!11
nemanjacoric 3 weeks ago
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@nemanjacoric The comment was: "What about the "cupboards" of the sadists, murders,and those who are "evil"?
Do you think THEY are the ONLY ones who built theirs wrong?"
J0LaPi 3 weeks ago
@nemanjacoric Then you are really bad at searching, just click show all comments and ctrl+F it.
TheAtheologian 3 weeks ago
@TheAtheologian i know that, i wrote that comment just to get thumbs up. Then you are bad at getting thumbs up. :-P
nemanjacoric 3 weeks ago
@nemanjacoric Dammit, with you predicting all my moves, my plans of world domination will have to be redone from scratch.
TheAtheologian 3 weeks ago
Probably the best metaphor i've ever seen, at least on this particular subject.
MidnightSt 3 weeks ago
I teared up a little at the end of this. So beautiful.
Klokinator 3 weeks ago
好奇心が強い。That dude with the wineglass might be onto something, too!
thalohalo 1 month ago
"All Bullshit"...hey, that kid is on to something!
thalohalo 1 month ago
This is a brilliant video!
INFANTRY13 1 month ago
7:35 McCartney?
maizpdrido423 1 month ago
The sad reality and the situations in which children are faced with, truly an eye opening vid to most,i hope the message get's trough to them. By the way, i gotta give credit on the animation and everything else the vid has included, props.
nightcrawler1008 1 month ago
My friends, this is absolutely wonderful.
thirtysilver 1 month ago
You guys are brilliant.
M3t4lManiac 1 month ago
just a guess here but was your family jewish and uncle christian
CapQuacer 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
@CapQuacer Umm I do not think so. His uncle was gay.
NathanWubs 1 month ago
@NathanWubs oh okay, just trying to understand the analogy better
CapQuacer 1 month ago
@CapQuacer well, I think its about being gay.
But its not really that. The analogy is that people get too dogmatic and say that their way is the one way. Condemning in the process anyone that is different. An example would indeed be christians condemning jews, because they do not accept jesus. Or more extreme condeming anyone with a different religion as they do not follow Christianity. If you read some of TT his comments you will understand better.
NathanWubs 1 month ago
@NathanWubs
It's tough to analogize it to current dogma. It's more like beliefs, take all the things in the bible and you have certain core beliefs and certain beliefs that most christians don't believe anymore (paying rape victims' fathers, etc). So each drawer and its location could be considered a belief. Sanjay could be a Jew, the narrator a catholic, and his uncle a fundamentalist christian.
That's not a good analogy either, because then being an atheist would mean not having a cupboard.
Valendros 1 month ago
@Valendros That's incorrect, unless you're stating that atheists do not have beliefs.
They do, they just don't hold these without evidence, and if presented with new evidence they're generally more willing to change their mind.
uruson 3 weeks ago
@uruson
You are correct, Two weeks ago Valendros is wrong. I re-read my comment and thought on the analogy I proposed, looked up the definition of belief, and you're correct.
We need new words. A belief that is held without evidence, and a belief that is held with supporting evidence.
Valendros 3 weeks ago
Yeah, the English language can often spur confusion because of its encompassing definitions. Don't feel too bad :)
zthomasack 3 weeks ago
Only Brazilian in the comments.
But still I must say ...
I put a lot of time in my favorites and will continue to fill me with reflections.
Wonderful video.
Renatoraidf 1 month ago
*put
williamrknowles 1 month ago
This is an amazing piece of work and I like the concept. I have one question on this at the end of the video it states, 'I learned to but books in their place' do you want this to be interpreted as we should not allow religion to blind us and control our life or that we should act out against religious dogma or is it something altogether different?
williamrknowles 1 month ago
@williamrknowles It is meant to be interpreted that we should never put too much faith in religion, especially in something as mundane as a book. I for one, have had several Christians try to use the Bible as supporting evidence, but truthfully, it is still just a book, no more important than any other book in existance.
PortalPerson121 1 month ago
@williamrknowles i interpret it as, you should understand as much as you can from all religions and build your own opinions on life whether you believe a little of everything, or absolutely none of it.
hypn0tickbr 1 month ago
@hypn0tickbr The moral is to make your own decisions in life, and not follow a manual. (aka religious book) It also tries to show that you should not judge people, because of what they believe.
lmaso99xx 1 month ago
well made.. I like it.
hindsamir 1 month ago
Thank you for this film.
CommanderFey 1 month ago
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen on Youtube. Truly a masterpiece.
ItsEasyIfYouThink 1 month ago 66
@ItsEasyIfYouThink Thanks
TheraminTrees 1 month ago
@TheraminTrees This is truly beautiful, thankyou.
lmaso99xx 1 month ago
@TheraminTrees I believe you should have made him stop making cupboards altogether, atheism is a lack of belief isn't it?
lienmor2 2 weeks ago
@lienmor2 Simply because one lacks a belief in a god does not mean they lack belief. As an atheist, I believe many things.
CallMeRiverton 1 week ago
Simply brilliant...!!!
Freethinker45 1 month ago
Nice one :)
eTiggy 1 month ago
It's interesting how the drawers at the beginning were only in black and white
MrMattZhu 1 month ago
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This is shit
JazzyJapanese 2 months ago
I swear I thought I was already subscribed to you.
Nerd042 2 months ago
7:29 awesome!
Clearie552 2 months ago
What about the "cupboards" of the sadists, murders,and those who are "evil"?
Do you think THEY are the ONLY ones who built theirs wrong?
finalfantasy8911 2 months ago
@finalfantasy8911 No.
TheraminTrees 2 months ago 9
@TheraminTrees MSG?
SavageDogg38 1 month ago
@SavageDogg38 msginca
TheraminTrees 1 month ago
@TheraminTrees No?
kurayamisidekick 1 month ago
5:03
Reeed Factiooon!
MyNameIsBob212 2 months ago
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MyNameIsBob212 2 months ago
ok so you had a bad experience with your parents and now ALL CHRISTIANS are possessed ? lol Buddy if you are so smart you should know that not all christians are like your parents. My parents are Christian have always given me the choice to open my mind and do as I please. As long as I don't harm others. Just know that not all atheists are like joseph Stalin... in the same way not all christian parents will treat their kids like your parents did.
KingDcome11 2 months ago
@KingDcome11 'ok so you had a bad experience with your parents and now ALL CHRISTIANS are possessed ?'
—er .... nope. The irony here is that you've done exactly what you've falsely accused me of. You've made a complete overgeneralisation. You've not only missed the video description, you've ignored key aspects of the actual video — eg Uncle George isn't possessed. This isn't about christianity — it's about bullying with dogma. And nowhere does it say ANY group is ALL possessed.
TheraminTrees 2 months ago 4
@TheraminTrees but you are presenting your story and generalizing even if that wasn't your purpose. Not only did you accuse your parents of being like possessed but in the video you showed some other people who had your parents beliefs and even told you You would go to hell if you don't change your views. You tried to sound like a loving victim and presented your parents as hypocrites who actually did not even follow the manual as the manual says to love and they had NO LOVE.
KingDcome11 2 months ago
@KingDcome11 First off, not everything's as literal as you see it. The parents in this video are a metaphor for the bullying part of society. We also have Sanjay and Uncle George, who've not sat in judgement, but have been judged/rejected. Second, where does this video's manual talk about love? Nowhere. If you don't want to hear what the video description is saying — that this is not about any one belief system — then just say, and we can end a pointless exchange.
TheraminTrees 2 months ago
@TheraminTrees I'm obviously not as intelligent as you are so I might have misunderstood the message since you only portrayed Religion ( reading the book, going to church). And the part about Love, It's the part where the parents are insulting the kid and he says " I love you" and then parents feel ashamed because they were suppose to love according to their beliefs but they didn't. Can you explain to me what's the message then? bulling happens everywhere ( yes even among atheist who bully Rel
KingDcome11 2 months ago
@KingDcome11 There is no church, or synagogue, etc. There is a building with a teacher, and an instruction manual. The parents aren't ashamed merely because they're 'supposed to love according to their beliefs' — love's not even mentioned as part of their 'beliefs'. They're ashamed because they realise their bullying. The video is a critique of oppressive indoctrination — silencing valid questions, dishonouring curiosity and honesty by substituting reason with dogma.
TheraminTrees 2 months ago
@TheraminTrees igious people. Who is right here and who is wrong? Someone who says to know truth and bullies others for not believing as he does? well I have seen religious judging others for not partaken of their beliefs just like I have seen atheists who bully others for being religious. Is your message suppose to tell people ( yes even atheists) to respect other people's beliefs? even when they are wrong? because if that's your message your channel speaks differently.
KingDcome11 2 months ago
@KingDcome11 'Is your message suppose to tell people ( yes even atheists) to respect other people's beliefs?'
—No. Nothing so insipid and meaningless. If your beliefs tell you all Asian people deserve to die, then they're not worth spit. The point of the video is to honour truth — hence the boy builds the cupboard, contradictions and all. He honours the reality of the manual — and is punished by those who want to suppress that reality.
TheraminTrees 2 months ago
@TheraminTrees glad to know that There are many religious who don't tell you to go and kill people. So I'm guessing that since many religions show or talk about love YOU would respect them right? Just like THEY would respect your beliefs right? I don't think you have people trying to kill for being atheist right? Well I'm glad that you are teaching people to respect others people's opinions. Because me and you know for sure that not everyone is as smart as you to see things in your perspective
KingDcome11 2 months ago
@KingDcome11 'I don't think you have people trying to kill for being atheist right?'
—Death threats've been a constant feature since I announced my atheism on here 4 years ago. I have some obsessive types right now threatening to kill me because of my atheism. Would they do it if given the chance? Who knows what goes on in such minds. As for respecting religions that show/talk of love — I'd respect the love, the person who shows it, and the aspects of their beliefs that are justified/evidenced.
TheraminTrees 2 months ago
@TheraminTrees hahah . WELL one thing is for sure. They are not Christians. Because TRUE Christians obey Jesus who said to "love onet another and love your enemies". So YES I agree some people are very religious. BUT WE MUST learn to separate people who have religon and harm others from those who have Godand would only pray for you. JUST LIKE I have separated Atheists like Joseph Stalin from atheists like you. YOU ARE BOTH different even though you both don't believe in God. :)
KingDcome11 2 months ago
@KingDcome11 'They are not Christians.'
—Actually yep, some are, and some are muslims. The christians among them can justify themselves scripturally as much as any other christian — that's the beauty of that strange old bible which supports vastly conflicting moralities. Difference with Stalin — no atheist scripture. His tyranny wasn't about atheism, but political dogma. Do all collectivists want stalinist regimes? No more than all christians would kill me. See? No trouble separating folk.
TheraminTrees 2 months ago
@TheraminTrees Christian means follower of Christ.(his teachings)CHRISTIANS will not hate you or try to kill you. They might get mad but for sure won't threaten people. Just because someone disobeys the master doesn't make the master or religion bad. As you make an argument about Stalin I can say the same. Hating you is not scriptural at all. so those hating you have gone out of the manual.Do most Christians want a religion about hate? I would not think so. even thou some have used it as such
KingDcome11 2 months ago
@KingDcome11 'Christian means follower of Christ.(his teachings)'
—And as I've just said: 'The christians among them can justify themselves scripturally as much as any other christian — that's the beauty of that strange old bible which supports vastly conflicting moralities.' Not everyone sees a 'gentle Jesus'. Many take 'come with a sword' very literally.
'Just because someone disobeys the master doesn't make the master or religion bad.'
—I've made no such argument, so that's a straw men.
TheraminTrees 2 months ago
@TheraminTrees Those who take things literally are obviously not aware of the teachings of Jesus. You can;t just read one verse to understand Jesus, you gotta read the gospels and see how He was a man of peace and never hurt anyone . It is obvious we are not getting anywhere with this convo. Anyways good luck with everything! nice having a dialogue with you. Peace
KingDcome11 2 months ago
@KingDcome11 'Those who take things literally are obviously not aware of the teachings of Jesus. You can;t just read one verse ....'
—But they're not just reading a verse are they, they're reading it all in a different context to you — both sides can argue the other side doesn't see Jesus's 'real' message. When I was a christian, I saw Jesus as positive and peaceful — and would've argued other ideas were misguided. But I realised there's enough in the bible to sustain many interpretations. cont
TheraminTrees 2 months ago
cont
'It is obvious we are not getting anywhere with this convo.'
—Arguing 'true christian' is a dead end — from any christian viewpoint. Like stepping into a car that drives round in circles and expecting to get somewhere. It's bound to fail because it hopes to disambiguate the bible, which is hopelessly elastic and open to interpretation, in places promoting horrendous sadomasochistic ideas. But anyway I do think we got somewhere — if you consider the very start of this exchange. Peace to you.
TheraminTrees 2 months ago
@TheraminTrees I'm of the opinion that it is deliberately so, the reason being whatever the holy man says, goes. I see it as an outdated method of social control, which in itself is not necessarily bad.
fenderkid6 1 month ago
I love this vid, thanks a lot both of you (TheraminSoup) :)
StupidWiz 2 months ago
Outstanding. Simply outstanding. Kudos!
I've been thinking we need to find a way to make reason fun so it appeals to kids and teaches critical reasoning. I've thought something like a Vulcan Academy, something fun & instructional. Then perhaps a Kolinahr Society. We need more rational and logical thinkers in this crazy world. Maybe the Internet and vids like this is my idea already here. Thanks for you wonderful video.
dmorono 2 months ago
@missmonsi321 The people like to argue. The people that do are represented by the parents in the video. Me, I prefer to not call it religion. I have a set of beliefs, and they differ from yours, and everyone has a different belief, but people need to learn to see past this and accept each other. I think the video was about not judging others and not fearing different beliefs.
thelawnz 2 months ago
Am I the only one who wants to design a kick-ass cupboard now?
LimeGreenTeknii 2 months ago 7
WHY IS EVERYBODY SIDING OFF TO LIKE ATHEIST OR BELIEVER. WE ARE ALL PEOPLE. WE USE RULES AND MORALS TO GUIDE OUR LIVES. DIFFRENT CULTURES CREATED DIFFRENT MANUALS. THIS WAS ABOUT FINDING YOUR OWN MANUAL AND ACCEPTING OTHER PEOPLE DO TO. AND LETTING GO OF THE BELIEF THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THE SAME MANUAL. IN THE END ALL RELIGION(INCLUDING ATHEISM) IS ABOUT LOVE. sorry for the caps but felt like i needed to express this clearly.
landloper1986 2 months ago
I loved this video, and I'm a muslim. When I watched this, I had no idea it was about athiesm. I thought it was about change and creativity as a person, and basically religion.
I scroll down to read the comments, and you guys ruin everything!! The comments are loaded with crap and bullshit from both sides and it's all just plain hate. I can't watch this video anymore because I firmly believe in my religion. I didn't have to know it was about atheism, I could've haveSeen ItThroughMyEyesInstead.
missmonsi321 3 months ago
Really great presentation! It should be shown in schools, churches and mosques everywhere.
hznfrst 3 months ago
This is a load of crap that attempts to trivialize religious text. The fact is that ALL the major religions respect and acknowledge other scripture. To not do so is contravening the spirit of the such texts.
The problems is that atheists cannot accept that there are many processes designed to bring a person to understand a wonderful God with an unlimited myriad of characteristics.
That is the shame.
hdregmore 3 months ago
@hdregmore Spoken like someone who just doesn't get it. We think it's a shame and a perversion that so many people think they know things for which there has never been a shred of evidence, yet are willing to waste their lives chasing ghosts - and frequently wage war on each other in the process. You are preternaturally pathetic.
hznfrst 3 months ago
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@hznfrst More disrespectful nonsense. That is all that atheists have. No sound intelligent argument here, that's for sure.
Read your words.
"perversion", "chasing ghosts", "preternaturally pathetic"
You are just another hatemongerer unworthy of debating the issue.
Wake Up Atheism.
The Abuse Stops Here!
(no doubt this will be removed)
hdregmore 3 months ago
@hdregmore Why do we do this? Because we are SICK AND TIRED of hearing the same outrageous CRAP with NO EVIDENCE for any of it, that's why! You are nothing but a tone troll - you only address how I say something but evade the substance as usual, because *YOU GOT NOTHIN'*!
For thousands of years religion has demanded undeserved and automatic respect, always with the threat of violence behind it for those who don't give it to them. Now that that's changing and YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!
hznfrst 3 months ago
@hdregmore why would it be removed? I say let it stays where it is so that idiocy can be seen clearly in the light of enlightenment.
karlesnorthen 3 months ago
@karlesnorthen Bawahaha. Enlightenment? More like head in the sandbox.
As I have stated. There is no sound intelligent argument here, that's for sure.
hdregmore 3 months ago
@hdregmore go to reddit and browse r/atheism. open your eyes as we do too. Do not judge before seeing all the evidence that is out there for all parties. We cannot change what you see, only you can.
yangkx 3 months ago
@hdregmore Why would TheraminTrees remove your comment? Kind of presumptuous aren't you.
theclinger 2 months ago
@theclinger Because you can tell from type of disrespectful and abusive comments that he allow that he has no intention of encouraging meaningful debate.
hdregmore 2 months ago
@hdregmore So first he is going to delete your comment because it is inflammatory, and now he is bad for not removing inflammatory comments? And you are lecturing me on meaningful debate?
Did you want him to remove your comment?
theclinger 2 months ago
@theclinger "inflammatory"? Bawahahahahahaha
I get abused and present my case as to why this is wrong and you call it "inflammatory"? Bawahahahaha
That is the problem with atheism and morality. It subjectively resides in the individual ego where anything can be justified..
hdregmore 2 months ago
@hdregmore Oh my god, my brain. Why did you think he would remove your comment? I'm sorry I said inflammatory, but I didn't think you would read my entire comment and single out a single word.
I. Did. Not. Dismiss. Your. Comment. I merely want to know why you would first think "no doubt this will be removed", and upon finding out he wouldn't, "he has no intention of encouraging meaningful debate". These to me seem contradictory, and I want to know why you don't think so.
theclinger 2 months ago
@hdregmore Understanding comes, when you are able to put down your religious book and start looking for the real answer for things without fear.
The real shame is that many people are not willing to look for the truth, because it would be inconvenient to find out that they believe in a load of steaming bullshit.
lanthasmj 2 months ago
Great video=)
wize11 3 months ago
Plz someone explain to me what I just watch four times...I have a video comprehension of a nine year old...
PutYourTumbsUp 3 months ago
@PutYourTumbsUp Its about religion... now watch it again and get it this time XP...
Punkekito123 3 months ago
@Punkekito123 Eh, not necessarily.
theclinger 2 months ago
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@theclinger mmm in your opinion what else could it be about?
Punkekito123 2 months ago
I especially like the 7:02. It's so powerfull! What a move! Like it's all washed away! What can they possibly respond to that?
lastannahme 3 months ago
Very nice. I shed a few tears.
movingdragons 3 months ago
Did anyone notice the cupboard the kid makes 'according to the manual' has the letters that spell 'All Bullshit' on it? Awesome hidden point!
shredforone 3 months ago 73
@shredforone oh yeah :D didn't notice! thanks for pointing it out mate
SimonFordable 3 months ago
I don't know why, but there's one scene in particular, where the indigo drawer is first seen, that nearly brings me to tears. Maybe it has to do with the musical resolution at the point of discovery that there might be more, maybe there are just some subconscious undertones, who knows. Very powerful video, though.
Aphotic0221 3 months ago in playlist Philosophy
@Aphotic0221 I must confess, Qualia's music here always makes me feel wobbly. As soon as it starts, I feel choked. And I've heard it thousands of times. It was on repeat play as I was doing the animation.
TheraminTrees 3 months ago
I love this video. Great job man.
darkria38 3 months ago
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Estevanescence07 3 months ago
Good
yangsungsu 3 months ago
To be honest I cried at the end. Very touching video with a simple but powerful message.
triniazn 3 months ago 3
Amazing!
trapedd 3 months ago
Nice allegory.
PuttingOnTheFoil 3 months ago
great vid
bryce13larkin 4 months ago
@TheraminTrees, have you ever considered submitting this to short film contests? I actually think you'd stand more than just a chance at winning something.
DancingInChains 4 months ago 18
@DancingInChains Thank you :8) If I get some time to re-render the animation with some minor changes, I might look into doing something with it.
TheraminTrees 4 months ago 8
@TheraminTrees Personally, I wouldn't touch it. You know, there's a reason people hate George Lucas for doing "some minor changes" on his previous works... ;)
Seriously though, ask any writer. They all know how big the temptation is, but finished works are better left alone, as the results of altering are seldom better than the original.
DancingInChains 4 months ago 3
@TheraminTrees I'm a little scared of you talking about changings, cause I think it's PERFECT.
:-)
I'm writing from my son's youtube account. He's just 6, but I'll put this as his first video for when he's a little older.
ottogentil 3 months ago 2
@ottogentil Thank you — this message made me smile. By minor changes, I meant two incredibly minor changes: a minor rephrasing of a single sentence spoken by one of the peripheral characters — which just felt a tad clunky — and a costume change on a peripheral character. That's all.
TheraminTrees 3 months ago
@669backstab : Religion will be outgrown and replaced with something more inclusive naturally. It's inevitable. There is no need to euthanize anyone. Your attitude is ironic, as it mirrors the close-mindedness and dogmatism of the dark side in organized religion.
mess1n 4 months ago
699backstab is likely a troll. Please don't feed him.
I love this video.
UmberLamp 4 months ago
Please ignore this 699backstab. He's not a good representative of the atheist community.
Anyhow, great video. Quite inspiring
FearMonstro 4 months ago
All religious filth must be euthanized. its the only sane way to deal with the dangerous insanity of religion and the extreme harm it does to Humans. There is always a terrible cost when religious vermin believe in gods
699backstab 4 months ago
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FearMonstro 4 months ago
The problem as this video proves is that once the cancer of religion is wielded upon a child , the resulting adult can never really be trusted to fully recover. It is through weak cowardly hateful parenting that innocent children suffer at the hands of the faithful. They get the very thing that makes them Human stripped from them and spend the rest of their days trying to get it back. That is of course assuming they realize they are broken in the first place.Religion is child abuse. Very bad.
699backstab 4 months ago
@699backstab uh dude...u beleive that we should commit genocide WTF man... The only true way everyone will become atheist is through understanding. I agree religion is not doing exactly good things right now but dude, you sound like hitler..
DeLeonDeewreck 3 months ago
Isnt it time for a mass extinction of religious people. Can we not organize a system whereby if you think there is a god after death then Humans can assist your journey to see your particular god concept. Carbon monoxide, barbiturates, gravity. What ever is cheapest. Send the faithful to see their god concept and use their remains and wealth for Humans to progress. There is 5 billion religious people and we have about 5 billion too many my planet. Its put up or shut up time religious people!
699backstab 4 months ago
@699backstab you sound like hitler
xDaBeginninGx 4 months ago
@xDaBeginninGx No I cant be like Hitler because Adolf Hitler was a Catholic. He used his Catholicism to fuel the Final solution to murder 6,000,000 Jews with bullets and Zyklon-B. No no I am not under the spell of the worst Human cancer, religion, and therefore without religion I can never be subject to insane crazy oppression, rape, murder. Look up the evidence that Hitler used religion. I know you are a mind slammed shut religitard low hanging fuit subhuman but try educating yourself kid. :D
699backstab 4 months ago
@699backstab i was actually talking about how you wanted to kill of humans that had a certain belief. just like hitler.by the way you dont have to be religious to think about murdering people the worst way possible you just have to be insane. heres an example between sane and insane. sane: people who believe in god is stupid so i choose to not believe and not welcome it to my life. insane: you believe in god? let me kill u so u can meet him. case closed ur insane like hitler. get mad <3
xDaBeginninGx 4 months ago
This is the story of my life. Except I haven't really gotten past 5:12-5:20... :-(
Requinix17 4 months ago
this music was played at a church before.......
Squarestudios1 4 months ago
my buddist friend says the cupboard is an illusion created by the mind.
hopaloop 4 months ago
@hopaloop well link or it didnt happen
snylekkie 4 months ago
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vividDC 4 months ago
I don't know why, but I really want to punch your mom.
Dudeawesome1000 4 months ago
funny, my parents gave me free will to build my own cupboard, took me years to build one, now I know that it doesn't matter what the cupboard looks like, it's what you do with it that matters.
JoeyPsych 5 months ago
nice little Existentialism video
Triumphit1 5 months ago
haha everyone has a colored friend , even theramins characters. lol
eightonefour1 5 months ago
fucking religion, i tend to stay away from all groups that shove shit down your throat, im not bashing any religion im saying my opinion that if people are going to believe what their going to believe so be it but dont go around trying to "convert" people for your so called "mission" i am not athiest, i am agnostic, and if your going to reply to me you better know/learn what agnostic means
MASTERLINKX1 5 months ago
UNBELIEVABLY GOOD VIDEO , THANK GOD MY PARENTS DIDN'T STEER ME WRONG . MY CUPBOARD WAS OPEN TO EVERYTHING GOOD . I WOULD LIKE TO POST THIS VIDEO TO MY BLOG .
GIANFRANCO FRONZI AUGUST /18 / 2011
9493760 5 months ago
I'm confused... is this video telling me that the Bible tells me to go to other religions? Because it doesn't.
Or is it supposed to make me realize that my religion is fine and others are as well?
Or is it Christian?
It definitely makes me think like a Christian.
Delsanar 5 months ago
nice =)
KaiqueSumatso 5 months ago
Beautfiull, well done analogy.
MrNemitri 5 months ago
I think this video is perfect! :) I would like to write about it someday.
Thx for you who created it.
SirLotharBr 5 months ago
The video has a nice message overall BUT! I also believe it partially spreads a kind of philosophy that is not always necessarily good.
In other words I believe that many of today's people are abusing the term "open mindness" for the evil purposes.
I always believed that people should be open minded BUT they should also have PRINCIPLES.
At the end of the day, this video is just one out of milliards of other "cupboards", and I have just expressed my own "cupboard" ;)
VEGETADTX 5 months ago