My SSG - Producing and incredible amount of juice!

[jamil1985]

Hey can u make a video tutorial how to make that. Im looking for video tutorial step by step. Thanx.

[vanguardbr]

I have one simple question... If it generates more energy than it consumes what's the reason you need bateries? can't it run itself?, i mean can't you conect the output cables to the imput?

[Shockszzbyyous]

nope you would short the circuit :)

[scooterscottii]

Greetings from Oregon! I made a rotor for my SSG circuit with six mags around. Unfortunately the first mag I installed was facing out toward the coil. Question ... Does it matter which magnetic pole faces the coil? I noticed several people use north. Should I change it? THANKS for any info! Scooterscottii

[RavenPrecept]

Stepping up voltage is useful. If you play with coils then you will get more volts. Car ignition coils have a small winding as input and a much larger winding for output. Via the points this steps up 12v to many thousands of volts. It basically swaps the same energy by building up and then collapsing a magnetic field through a couple of coils. I am not sure this is actually different.

[koneheadx]

A great trick to try is to SHORT coil leads on your gen coils out with a switch - just a millisecond or so - this will collapse the coil and on rebound you will get X20 voltag in caps

find a sweetspot in timing where it doesnt affect your draw to motor

Blast caps into batteries in a timing in synch with your motor coil pulses - do the charging at "0" line if looking with scope - correspondes to OFF time between motor coil pulses -this is when to release caps to charge

[waldo2020]

no free energy here ! a step up transformer will do the same without moving parts! I f you can't pull any decent current, your total power is obviously low as well your efficiency. i.e. no overunity.

[QuantumAnomaly]

You're doing some cool stuff here. Keep at it!

You are not alone in having success with Bedini motors. You all should study each others' work:

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[electric789]

wow. great job!

[nickthesafe]

I'm running free resonant air cored bifilar coils only about 500x24swg (with a low turn count third winding for trigger) rather than a motor - Very curious results so far, running the coil at resonance without tapping the second winding sees a 12.8v 130mA drain, the power transistor gets warm - a scope off the second coil shows healthy 40v spikes at 9Khz. By adding a bridge, 1uF 2Kv Cap and neon fired SCR now sees the cap charging to 90v, steady neon glow AND charging a battery...

[nickthesafe]

Here's where it get's ODD though; current drain is now down to 60mA, all the parts are cool and the secondary battery is charging: However, when I put the scope leads across the secondary battery it shows nothing, the avometer however, shows a steady rise. The cap maintains 90v and pulses are visible across the bridge. By adding an iron core to the coil I can increase the cap voltage (and firing neon brightness) to well over 260v. Simply put, the battery charges but you can't see a current flow!

[Pwordchernoir]

curious. I just did a current measurement on the output of my latest design and im getting clear readings. Still testing but seem to be getting high voltage spikes at 160ma, this is made variable by the trigger.

[figato]

Can someone who's made one of these please do a POWER analysis? There's a lot of talk of voltage, but no-one is talking WATTAGE. Please, someone, just hook up a volt meter and ammeter on the input battery (vi = power) and one on the output battery so that we can definitively see if this works. If someone has this data, please point me to it.  THANKS!

[robzpe]

Actually, power is secondary to the "motor/generator" operation. It is the VOLTAGE spike that initiates a self-charge in the battery that is intereting. Also, thing is that the self-charge is not limited to one charged battery, you can connect several batteries in parallell. Now, the power you refer to comes when you discharge the secondary battery. Has nothing to do with the charger, actually. I know it is a bit to think about, but you'll grasp it eventually. I did.

[Pwordchernoir]

Actually Rob, The 'power' discussed in this video refers to the energy captured in my capacitors. These caps are fed by generator coils, being induced by magnets passing. These are not bifilar coils and are not connected to the rest of the circuit. As for your other comments, many thanks.

[ParapaDrifter]

May those who suppress this tech burn in hell

[Drevtoobe]

You saw that clip where the guy used a white LED and the white tape on the rotor. It was great, he showed the timing of the firing of the pulse relative to the driving coil. When he added the relay coil in series with the transistor firing circuit it introduced a delay into the firing system. That delay may be good or bad depending on the timing between the moving magnets on the rotor and the firing coil.

[Drevtoobe]

If you simply energize the coil manually and turn the rotor slowly with your hand you could feel the torque induced by the repulsion between the rotor magnet and the energized coil. This will allow you to find the sweet spot of repulsion with quite a bit of accuracy.

For optimum performance and minimal current consumption, you could time the firing pulse so that it's dead center would be lined up with the repulsion sweet spot's center. You want the maximum energy transfer per pulse.

[Drevtoobe]

The energy transfer is (torque x angular displacement). Each energy transfer speeds up the rotor to increase it's rotational energy (1/2 x moment of inertia x angular velocity-squared).

If you introduce a delay that's too long you may start to fire the coil when it's way past the sweet spot and the resulting torque from the weaker magnetic repulsion times angular displacement will be low, and the rotor's top speed will be lower than without the coil.

[Drevtoobe]

The white LED basically gives you a very nice stroboscope that costs next to nothing. You could run the motor and experiment with different delay techniques to see if they can center the firing around the sweet spot. A simplified 'Cadillac' delay circuit would use two 555 timers configured as monostable vibrators that are triggered by the same pick-up coil that fires the transistor circuit. You could turn the 555 trimpots and watch how you change the firing timing with the LED stroboscope.

[Drevtoobe]

With respect to your capacitors, each energy pick-up coil is outputting an approximate sine wave and the capacitors are being charged to the maximum peak-to-peak voltage of the sine wave through the rectifiers. So for the 40-volt cap, the coil is outputting a roughly 14 volt RMS voltage waveform.

Within a short time after you start the motor, the caps are charged and there is no load on the motor. The voltage on the caps creeps up very slowly after that, as current creeps through the diodes.

[Drevtoobe]

The amount of voltage you get out of the pick-up coils is dependent on two things, the rate of change of magnetic flux with respect to time the coils see as the magnets fly by, and the number of turns in the coil. Therefore if you had a 2000-turn coil you would be able to charge a cap to 80 volts, assuming the rotor turns at the same speed and the new coil has the same dimensions as the old coil.

As Marthale7 said, you will get more voltage but less current from the 2000-turn coil.

[Drevtoobe]

Finally, your relay coil was clicking sometimes because there was current going through it every time the transistor firing circuit switched on the power coil. The relay was simply trying to activate, because the coil in this case is also an electromagnet.

The main firing transistor has specs that tell you how much current has to go through the base to switch it on for maximum conduction from the collector to the emitter. Any extra current is unnecessary and it may be that this is the case.

[Drevtoobe]

Oops, about adding a load by putting resistors across the caps. Then the rotor will slow down because the energy pick-up coils will be acting like friction and adding drag. The voltage across the caps will also drop and stabilize at a new lower voltage. The 40-volt cap would normally have a higher value resistor across it if you want both coils to drain roughly the same energy from the spinning rotor.

And like I have said before, with "zero ohm" resistors, there will be no load on the motor.

[Drevtoobe]

A note about LED:. LEDs are not supposed to be arbitrarily connected across any voltage source. LEDs have a normal operating current. Excessive current through the LED means it burns too much energy. If you are pulsing voltage through the LED you may be able to get away with it, because it may not heat up enough to get damaged. The bottom line is that LEDs need series resistors to 'program' the current to the correct value. The higher the voltage, the higher the programming resistor.

[honda4004]

hi would the voltage be able to make a plasma spark on a spark plug,if so this could be used in a super heated steam injector.

[Pwordchernoir]

working today, cap one easily attained full capacity. All the capacitors are rated at 2200uf 63V. So, today when I discharged them into the small motor, there have been some big sparks! Also some nice little burns...

[marthale7]

Good Job. You can get high voltage with small wire, but not high amps typically. Are you using neos? Yes taking a load from the caps will make a big difference, I have found this to be the acid test. But some people let the voltage in the cap build up to a point and then dump it with a 555 cirucuit or ... other means.

[Pwordchernoir]

Double stacked neos on here Mart, Im going to wind another coil with some think gauge wire, see what happens.

[introvertebrate]

very nice!