Last Day Message! Discover Mark Of The Beast + 144,000 Part 2 of 7

[wainadoi1]

This guy is changing the words of the Bible. The 144,000 are from the 12 tribes of Israel thats what the Bible is saying and its not the church sorry. please don't try to change the word

[Jondadon2006]

@wainadoi1

When it comes to studying revelation, there must have been a consistancy first. We have characters in the Bible who are dead such as Baalam, Balak, Jezebel etc. These are symbolic themes regarding these people. So it is with the 12 tribes. They are not the original tribes and also a jew is not one outwardly but one inwardly. The bloodline is not the issue. Now what is the symbolic thing about this? If you study out their names, you will notice something amazing

[Maeroa145]

@Jondadon2006 Bro you cannot built your own philosophy on the scriptures... The Bible already tells us that were are the wild olive branches grafted in... There is no way the SDA will be that, first you will have to dispute that with the JW because they think that that is them the faithfull witness.

But let me tell you, that passage of Revelation is talking about the 12 tribes of Israel, God has never rejected His people and He never will.(pliz do read your Bible)

[Jondadon2006]

@Maeroa145

Friend your missing the point. The main point that we are to gather here is that we are to be faithful towards Rev 14:12

By God's grace, we can all reach that standard

[Maeroa145]

@Jondadon2006 A person who is in Christ already know that they will make it to Heaven, they have the assurance that they have been chosen by God. That's the whole point about the gospel, that Jesus came to save which was lost.

144,000

SDA says they are the one with the seal of God (Sabbath keeper Joseph Bate theory)

JW says that they are the one (Taze Russel Faithful ones)

Who is right?

[Jondadon2006]

@Maeroa145

Friend your mixing truth with error.

Listen to the whole presentation

[LotusBlossom86]

this is simple: the mark of the beast (the beast is also the spirit which works THRU people, aka puppets) is a spiritual mark, not so much a physical. This 'thing' has been around forever, but as long as people continue to idolize, remain indignant, ignorant, cruel and spiteful, murderous, then they will choose the opening of the door of this evil spirit. As for a physical mark, its a part of it, people choose physical marks all the time to represent key beliefs and attitudes...think about it ;)

[irishsobofyahoo]

he is saying the 144000 is not the young jewish men of the twelve tribes.

[16BronxBoy718]

SO HE'S BASICALLY SAYIN IF WE DIE FROM NOW TO THEN WE WONT MAKE IT....SOMEBODY EXPLAIN TO ME..PLEASE MY CHRISTIANS EXPLAIN

[Jondadon2006]

@16BronxBoy718

What do you mean?

[16BronxBoy718]

@Jondadon2006 the pastor states if we are not alive when jesus returns or sumthin like tht he stated...and plus is the 144,000 the ones who make it to heaven and only them or its just the saints?

[Jondadon2006]

@16BronxBoy718

umm can you send me the time He said that?

It is not only the 144,000 who make it to Heaven. There is a great Multitude that follow.

The 144,000 are the firstfruits. This is a special group of people. I did a study on the 144,000 explain who they are from the Bible. If you would like to watch it, do a search on the 144,000 in my channel

[cmk1964]

About the 144 000, the SDA church has so much conflict on this issue: numerous changes, contradictions etc. starting from EG White to present. This lack of unity and contradictions just shows how fluid this topic is. They can interpret it as they choose, depending on the moment.

[khamodaz]

And i quote : Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six. - Now ask yourself this satan is the father of lies so when you lie as you know in your heart how do you feel or do you feel OK following satan who has disguised himself as an angel of light wake up and read the bible

[khamodaz]

First of all their is nothing derogatory with calling a fool a fool read proverbs, but even worse is being a liar, read the bible - Rev. 13 verses 16,17,18 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheadsAnd that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

[khamodaz]

this guy is a liar and an idiot he is talking around and around and people are sitting their and listing just like like the bible says God will send a illusion that would fool the very elect if it were not for God, the mark of the beast is the mark of the beast as the bible says 666 nothing else wake up people this guy is exactly what he is preaching against forcing people to see things only his way and people just go along like sheep, wake up people God said it is finished read the bible

[Jondadon2006]

@khamodaz

My friend what issues do you have with the video using Biblical evidence? And also can you not use language like that calling one an idiot.

Where in the Bible does it say the mark of the beast is 666?

Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, OR the name of the beast, OR the number of his name.

1. Mark

2. Name

3. Number

Why does it say OR instead of WHICH IS?

Verse 18 shows us His NUMBER not His mark so please understand it carefully

[Jondadon2006]

Please take on your own advice as to wake up and study as should we all because we do tend to hold on popular opinion but 666 is an identifying mark of the beast but it is not His Mark. The papal system is that beast and their mark is changing the Sabbath of the 4th commandment from 7th to 1st and Daniel 7:25 identifies this even more clearly

[pyrofreak8]

@Jondadon2006 well said brother

[Poplock009]

@khamodaz This man is speaking only from Scripture and if he isnt, what in your opinion on what the mark of the beat and what the number 666 is?

[khamodaz]

@Poplock009 Well my opinion means nothing but the bible says i quote - He causeth - a individual the bible is clear in that - to receive a mark in- not on their right hand . the number of the beast is the number of a man a person a entity not a group not a nation not a organization or a religious group but a man set apart just like judas to turn people away from a person the only important person Christ Jesus our saviour, the man will try to be a saviour in place of christ nothing else

[Poplock009]

@khamodaz Say what you like. But what he is saying is from the Bible. Revelation is a symbolic, prophetic book with the beasts, the woman and others used as symbols. This is why it calls for wisdom. The mark of the beast can be received in your forehead or in your hand. The hand being symbolic for your actions and the forehead for your thinking and mindstate. Read the book of Revelation one more time and you will see what I'm talking about

[khamodaz]

@Poplock009 Well actually it is not symbolic and read the bible unless you want to make what you want it to be it does not call for wisdom read it, its says here is wisdom. i cant believe you would actually say our hand for our actions and our forehead for our thoughts really. why dont you just change the bible to agree with what you believe

[Poplock009]

@khamodaz I'm changing nothing... its what the word says. The Bible says let him that hath understanding count the humber of the beast, for it is the number of a man. Rev 13:18. The Mark of the beast is about worship and obeying the Living God. Thats why Rev 14:12 says here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. It is a symbolic book and thats Biblical. You tell me when u see a literal Seven headed beast coming out the sea n let me know so I can run away too

[mr44doom]

@khamodaz He is not telling you that the bible is telling you thats Jesus himself says keeping the commandments is the seal or mark of the father it in the forehead because its in your frontal lobe of your brain the part of your brain that uses reasoning we as sinners let out medial brain override the front because we like FEELING good rather than BEING good that is what got us into trouble in the first place. the bible is scientifical as well

[eilidha]

@khamodaz preach it brother!!! you are absolutley right. people try to interpret the bible and replace the word with symbolism and "mans wisdom". It says what it says and it means what it says!! how on earth could going to a place on a given day be translated as a mark on your forehead or right hand? its ridiculous.Imagine someone saying " hey I just got a mark on my hand so I can buy things without cash or credit" friend says " show me",reply " don't be stupid I mean I went to church on sunday"

[kristimjlove]

You took that verse out of context:

You need the law to establish faith- but by faith you complete the need of the law.

Whatever you do- don't trust who ever you have been listening to- read the Bible yourself- stay away from the 7DA and don't take the mark of the beast...which at this point in time, is looking like an implantable microchip.

[lukeylsd]

Hi, I don't associate myself to any denomination whether it be SDA or whatever, I only associate myself with what I believe to be true and what is evident to be true. Looking at the discussion between you and Jondadon... I think you should not be so set on your beliefs, what Jondadon is saying complies with Scripture and he has explained very clearly what the BIBLE says... where you are referring to "scientists". The microchip may be apart of the beast system, but I doubt it is the mark.

[kristimjlove]

@lukeylsd

Listen- God does not care about what ONE day we worship him on- as long as we find faith and rest in Jesus Christ. If you know anything about RFID technology- it is no seceret they want everybody and everything chipped on the face of the planet- and they are implanting chips in the right hand and talking about putting them in the forhead of little babies. And you will be able to buy or sell with this mark- because it wiwll be a form of currency. Sunday law is not a form of currency

[kristimjlove]

@lukeylsd

watch?v=Itz7-eafuRM&feature=ch­annel

pay attention to what happens @ 1:04

[lukeylsd]

Thanks for the link, yeah I'm aware of the RFID chip and that even now in these times people have taken the chip willingly, it really is shocking. What I'm saying though is I believe the Sunday Law and the microchip are in compliance, the chip will be pivotal in having a cashless society, however we should not rule out the importance of the Sunday Law, this fits the mark of the beast more in my opinion.

[lukeylsd]

Also, what I think is worth mentioning, the microchip is known worldwide, even by people who aren't Christians, as the mark of the beast. Now if the mark is simply a chip, that is something we can refuse with ease, whereas the Sunday Law is something that won't be picked up worldwide, as it is not known to the masses as the mark of the beast. Therefore much more people will be decieved by it. Why is there such a strong agenda to bring about Sunday worship? We need to be wary of both.

[Jondadon2006]

Thanks for clearing that up Luke as I am not denying the use of the chip as it will have a part to play but the mark of the beast has to do with being against the law of God

The Beast is the Papal system

What is their mark? Changing the Sabbath to sunday and also changing idol worship.

You can see I asked Kristim where in the Bible identifies the beast if their mark is the chip. No answer

God bless my friend

[kristimjlove]

@Jondadon2006

What didn't I answer?

And no my righteous will not get me into heaven- for all our good works our like filthy rags. If you have faith in Christ who has nailed our sin to the cross then we live by faith in Christ and not the law. Christ's commandments were to love the Lord your God with all yourr heart, mind and soul and to love your neighbor as you love yourself- those are the commandments he wants you to follow.

[Jondadon2006]

But my sister this is old testament. This is not new

Deu 10:12 And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,

Lev 19:18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

You didnt answer who was the beast if their mark is the chip

[Jondadon2006]

Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, *Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

This is what it means to love thy neighbour! By keeping the last 6 pointing love to man, the first 4 points love to God, which is why the Sabbath is important as showing faith that He is creator....

[Jondadon2006]

Example:

Its like a mask. You think you are talking to your friend but the person under the mask is not your friend.

This is why we are talking of the Sabbath. One thinks they are worshiping God correctly but we need to let them know. God however understands that alot of people don't know this and He is merciful but the truth must be told.

Even Paul did the same thing in Acts 17 where people were ignorantly worshipping a statue called the UNKNOWN GOD but Paul had to correct them....

[Jondadon2006]

Thats all we are saying. We are not talking of works for salvation because we SDA do not believe in works TO be saved. Works is the fruit of love but we need to be reminded that there is deceptions and we are only trying to let you know what it is.

By changing the SANCTIFIED, BLESSED, HOLY day to a common working day, one is denying the faith that God is the Creator of life, the creator of all things, the creator of us and by that, we know who we are in subjection to.

Please understand my sis

[Jondadon2006]

Ill leave you to it because you are not justifying your claims from the Bible.

[kristimjlove]

The mark has to do with BUYING AND SELLING as well as worship. The implantable MICROCHIP fits this prophecy more appropritably then what this guy is saying. Scientist have done a study on the best TWO places to put the chip, guess where- the forhead and the hand!!! This guy is a blind guide.

[Jondadon2006]

my sister the Bible does not teach of a chip. The Bible is to explain and not popular view. The Bible already tells us what the hand and forehead is. It is talking of the intellect and our works. The Seal of God is in the forehead. The Mark of the Beast is in the Forehead and hand. If your saying that the mark is a chip, then what is the seal of God in the forehead? another special chip?

Let the Bible interpret otherwise we could miss the real matter.

[kristimjlove]

@Jondadon2006 Now listen closely and forget all you have been told by the SDA. Scientise say- that because the micrchips battery runs off of a circrituy that needs a certain amount of temprature and heat- they found after research, the best two places to put the chip is right below the hairline and the hand. What the SDA is saying is a lie they use many words and scripture out of context to make you believe what they say is true- and in time you will learn that it is not. Do not let any man..

[kristimjlove]

@Jondadon2006 ....Do not let any man decieve you....

[Jondadon2006]

But from what I can give you is right out of the Bible so how is man deceiving me? The Chip is a popular view when the issue is and has always been, those who are faithful to God and His Commandments and those who are not.

Why is it that the conclusion on those who do not get the mark of the beast are those who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus? Rev 14:12

How is keeping the commandments of God and having the Faith OF Jesus in opposite to having a computer chip?

[Jondadon2006]

What does it mean for you to keep the commandments of God?

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

1Jo 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth NOT commit sin

What is sin?

"..for sin is the transgression of the law." 1 Jn 3:4

For you to keep the law of God means you cease from sin. You have died to self and your life is in harmony to the law of God, a righteous people who loves the Lord that they would rather die than sin. They love God and hate sin.

[Jondadon2006]

What is the faith OF Jesus? (not faith IN Jesus, there is a difference)

Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith OF the Son of God,

To have the faith of Jesus means you are dead to self. Your human nature is completely dead to sin and you are living by nothing but faith.

How is the chip to do with this? No sense at all

[Jondadon2006]

The Chip may have a part to play in the last days but it is not THE Mark of the Beast. IF the chip is the mark of the beast, who is the beast? what is the beast? You rightly said let no man deceive you and I believe you need to take those words into account, not out of pride but out of serious consideration in these last days.

I do need to make sure no one deceives me but don't say it as if you don't need to heed to that as if you are certain because as Pro 14:12 says.........

[Jondadon2006]

"There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."

The Bible interprets itself so study it through. You can look in Daniel 3 to see a type of how it will be with the Mark of the Beast Crisis.

But yes you need to answer these question:

1.How does the law of God and faith of Jesus have anything to do with a chip

2. if the chip is the mark, then who is the beast

3. If you say who the beast is, show that from the line of Prophecy from Dan and Rev

Bless

[Jondadon2006]

Also to note that to have the faith of Jesus means to live the same life He lived. It means to be in complete tune with Christ and His life. To follow in His footsteps and look at what it says about it

"...Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:

Who did NO SIN, neither was guile found in his mouth: 1 Pe 2:21,22

Now the chip will have a part to play in trying to get the people of God to give into the mark of the beast which is ENFORCED Sunday worship

[Jondadon2006]

That being if you refuse the sunday law, you will not be able to buy and sell, you will be seen as a trouble maker.

As we see more terror on Earth as we see now, the nation will feel as to get back to God and demand a sunday law all in the name of security. But those who refuse and are holding on to the TRUTH Sabbath of the Lord as the 1st angels message shows, will not bow down even if it means we can't buy or sell.

*Sunday laws have already passed around the World.*

You think this made up?

[kristimjlove]

@Jondadon2006

No one can be saved by keeping the commandments- it is by faith alone! And yes true faith will bring forth works-

-Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Col 2:!6

I do not keep the sabbath because my rest in is Jesus.

You are being decieved- I warn you. Do not think you HAVE to keep the sabbath day...you don't. Faith only Love the Lord your God with all your heart,soul and mind.

[Jondadon2006]

I didn't say anyone is saved by keeping the commandments of God. I have clearly told you what it means to keep the commandments of God

Did you not read my comments?

Col 2 which is the typical verse used is talking of the ceremonial sabbaths which points to the rest in the intercession of Christ in the Heavenly temple. It is not talking of the Sabbath of Creation. Do you not believe God is creator if we try and do away with the sign that He is creator?

Do we know what the Sabbath means?

[kristimjlove]

@Jondadon2006 and love your neighbor the same.

The antichrist which will be a man will force the entire world to recieve a mark of allegeince to him- and without it you can not buy or sell- it goes IN the hand or IN the forehead...not on as most new corrupted translations say.

[kristimjlove]

@Jondadon2006

Sunday law- that people worship God in a building on Sunday? People worship God everyday in spirit and in truth- the Sunday law talk is nonsense. Yes the RCC says that the sabbath is on Sunday not Saturday- but knowing the difference between a particular day is not going to save you- faith in Jesus Christ and him alone will save someone.

[Jondadon2006]

You said

"Yes the RCC says that the sabbath is on Sunday not Saturday- but knowing the difference between a particular day is not going to save you- faith in Jesus Christ and him alone will save someone."

Bible says

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we ESTABLISH the law.

Please read my comments because you are holding on to your ideas when I gave you Biblical evidence that to keep Gods law means you love Him. BUT others keep it for works which is wrong!

[kristimjlove]

@Jondadon2006 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. 29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: 30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

[Jondadon2006]

exactly. Can you see what Paul is saying? He is not leaving one out.

If you believe Christ said go and sin no more, and breaking Gods law is sin, Christ is saying keep the law.

If you believe you can have righteousness by faith through Christ rather than keeping the commandments just on the outward, what's the problem?

[kristimjlove]

@Jondadon2006 The difference between me and this guy "preaching" is I always say that will will not be 100% sure if it is a microchip until that day it is forced on mankind. This guy seems to be certain that what he says is the "truth." Thats the problem with the devil he distracts people with one idea so they don't see the obvious. If I were you- don't be so sold on the Sunday Law thing (which is not a mark that goes in the hand that involves buying or selling.) But a microchip does.

[Jondadon2006]

My sister I have already explained to you that the hand and forehead which is to say the mind is symbolic meaning your thoughts and actions. The Bible says we have a more SURE word of Prophecy. If we are not solid on what the word says, we are in effect, lacking in faith.

[okebaram]

@kristimjlove, I agree that salvation comes from relationship with God, not propaganda-laws, and I like your attitude of being open. Do check out my videos on Revelation. Mine is broken down so that each chapter is covered in one, and sometimes two videos. If for instance you were interested in who the 144,000 are, you could just go to the chapter 7 video since the 144000 are in Rev 7; and the mark of the beast is in Rev 13, so you will go to the chapt 13 video for that. God bless.

[galileegirl]

This preacher has not understood the scripture. It says, Those in Christ are risen first, It doesnt say, those that are alive are the only ones in Christ. The seal of God are those that are sealed in the forehead, ( mind ), the heart and by the right hand. Abraham was justified by God because by Obedience ( right hand ) he actioned his mind/heart. This is the mark of God....

[galileegirl]

The preacher obviously hasnt totally studied the subject of the 144,000. Firstly, Revelation is Symbolic, it says so in the preface of the book. So, chap 7, the 144,000 is symbolic, and relates to the 12 tribes of Israel, and those redeemed from off the earth. It simply means, collectively, an unlimited number, The Redeemed. Signified as standing around the throne. If the preacher is going to teach, let him teach the full truth and not just waiver it off, Scripture is from God to us..

[Jondadon2006]

Well based on the time, He couldn't take up the whole subject as the 144,000 is a study on its own

[PhenomXmanifestO]

Maybe if you started investigating, you would see that what he is showing through the scriptures is far more scientifically based than you first thought. I don't believe in a rapture, at least not in the sense he conveys. Not enough of us is awakening, and 2012 is more about going through a region of our galaxie (true facts, not fictions) that other ancient civilization talked about, bringing another dimension after devastating trial of events on earth derived from cosmic events.

[one4yeshua]

He totally skipped over the fact that the 144k are from every tribe of Israel. They are literal Jews. Romans 11 says that gentile nations will be grafted into Israel with circumcision of the heart. Jer 31 says that he will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah. You must be part of Israel to recieve the promise. Anyone that does not come by the sheep gate is a theif and a robber.

[Jondadon2006]

My friend if you are Christ then you are in that Tribe. The reason why the tribe of Judah was preserved was because Christ was to come through and thus save the world. Manassah is not even part of the original so you can tell it will be spiritual speaking.

Many go wrong in Revelation but forget to read the first verse which explains how Revelation will be

[Jondadon2006]

"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and ***signified*** it by his angel unto his servant John:" Rev 1:1

That word means signs or symbols. So you should be able to understand that it is not all literal but in signs and symbols. Who is Israel in the NT after Israel as a NATION failed to accept the Messiah? Jesus is Israel. Paul says that al the promises were fulfilled in Jesus not the Israel nation

[one4yeshua]

Don't add to the Word of God sir. Nowhere in scripture does it say that Christ was a tribe. Many places it says that God made a covenant with his people and others can join his people. But we must identify, join with and be supported by the root of his people. Christ only has one bride and there will be only one flock. To say that there is any other way is heretical replacement theology.

[Jondadon2006]

I said that Judah was preserved so that Christ can come

[one4yeshua]

I would like to talk more about this in more words than this box can hold so hit me up at one4yeshua at gmail and we can really reason together. I enjoy talking to people that study the word and have a heart for God.

[one4yeshua]

The two tribes that were not mention were ones that were destroyed for their non repentant heart of blasphemy. I'll have to find the exact scripture, but I remember it saying that they will be rememered no more. Rom 11 tells us that the natural branches were broken off so that wild ones can be grafted in. How do get past that? Be part of Israel or take your place in the lake of fire.

[Jondadon2006]

My friend if you keep the commandments of God (loving Christ and chosing to die to self) and have the faith of Jesus (following the will of God at all times in life), Then you are saved.

If you believe in Christ, you are part of Israel but God is not about the bloodline of Israel but He is concerned of the Heart.

Romans 2:28,29; 9:6-8, Gal 3:28,29

[one4yeshua]

Read those scriptures again yourself. He is say that one becomes a Jew when the change is inward. The Word of God tells us that it is his will that we become one body, one flock not have many divisions like SDA and baptist etc. He wants us to be part of his covenant people. Study up on the Jewish wedding practice and you will see how prophetic it is and how you can't understand salvation without understanding it.

[jatamode]

Actually only 2 tribes are Jews, but I get what you are saying. The rest are Hebrew Israelites

[Lysimachus78]

@jatamode

But they are not really Jews. They are Cassars with Jewish mixed blood. The research on this is extensive. But your argument is muted alone by the fact that the 12 tribes are listed "by name" in Revelation 7. Not 2 tribes. So it has to be spiritual.

[wanshei]

I think its Ezekiel 6 where Ezekiel is a witness to these events; Six angels are called and gathered to go throughout the city and slaughter all of the evil people. But they are restrained until an angel who has a writers inkhorn by his side goes throughout the city and marks those who cry out against the abominations being done. Marked, sealed by God first. The remaining are what? Slaughtered. There was no RFID chip nonsense in those days.

[Areillis]

jehovists are bloody money makers!

[pinktwinstar]

The 144,000 are Jews. They are people chosen by God. They are not "super" jews how he sarcastically mentions. I just learned the 144,000 aren't Jehova Witnesses nor Mormons, but these people will preach the Word of our Lord Jesus Christ in the end of time. They will preach to all the non-believers! AMEN!! They will have God's mark on their forehead. You see the devil emmulates what God does. The devil wants what God has. Hence the mark of the beast. Again, they are Jews.

[Lysimachus78]

pinkwinstar,

The 144,000 are not literal Jews. They are spiritual Jews. You or I could become a part of the 144,000.

Romans 2:29 "But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is tha] of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God!"

The 144,000 in Revelation name the 12 tribes of Israel. But most of those tribes don't even exist anymore. This PROVES it's a spiritual application. This is truth my friend. Do not be deceived.

[jatamode]

They are the physical descendants of Jacob and only 2 tribes are Jews; only 2.

[milly7260]

Dear All,

If you hear a minister speak and you don't believe him move on. There is no need to throw abuse around.Those who love Christ remember we are ambassdors for Christ. If you don't like what the man is preaching because it codemns your life of sin or irritates you move on.

[mattjenni]

The guys a heretic, Tit 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;

[Jondadon2006]

why is that my friend?

[prudentheart]

Another false teaching... When will these preachers wake up!

[Jondadon2006]

where is the false?

[prudentheart]

Open your Bible to Rev. 14. The seal is the Father's and Sons Name. This whole sermon is a lie. Whoever this preacher is he has absolutely no spiritual insight. He does not understand any of the Seals. He is taking what are spiritual descriptions and interpreting them as if they will occur the same way in the physical realm. The 144 will be on earth for the final harvest. Do not trust any man to interpret the Bible. The Spirit will lead to the truth. At least 70 m. will be rescued

[Jondadon2006]

line upon line. Rev 7 says the seal, Rev 14 says the name of God. The Bible interprets

At least 70 m""??

[prudentheart]

But the word of the LORD was to them, "Precept upon precept, precept upon precept, Line upon line, line upon line, Here a little, there a little," That they might go and fall backward, and be broken And snared and caught. Isa. 28

Jon, if your going to quote scripture, the least you can do is use it to your benefit. And, from what I have seen so far I am sure you don't know enough about the Word to know much. therefore, I will give you a clue...SEEK FIRST the KINGDOM OF GOD...Then everything...

[Jondadon2006]

thats what i have done. And because of that, it has caused me to search the scriptures. let the Bible interpret

[prudentheart]

Now Jon, you just arent' making any since whatsoever. Try using scripture if you want to make a point with me and be so kind as to keep your ego out of it. Otherwise you will invoke my anger instead of my compassion.

[Jondadon2006]

my friend all i am doing is telling how it is by letting the Bible interpret. I don't know why you would get angry about it and i am not showing off ego. Your seeking the kingdom of God too? praise the Lord. In my experience, I am seeking the kingdom of God and that means for me to search. For me to say that, shouldn't get you angry.

[Jondadon2006]

My first comment to you was scripture but then you tell me I don't know enough which actually is where the ego is. my friend we all don't know enough which is why i said it causes me to search.

In my studies and allowing the Bible to explain the symbolism, it tells me the seal of God is the name of God

[Jondadon2006]

Rev 7:3 - Seal of God

Rev 14:1 - Name of God.

Whats the name of God? (name means character e.g. saul to paul, the 12 tribes names, sarai to sarah etc etc)

Where is Gods name revealed? Ex 33:18-34:1

His Law reveals His Character = Righteousness.

Does this add up?

Well this people sealed have the Faith of Jesus and KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD. This proves that these people have the character of Christ perfected in their lives, they have let go of sin. Christ LIVES in them

[Jondadon2006]

this is all from using line upon line.

When Christ is in the individual, He lives HIS life in you. It is no longer you or me but Christ because I can't keep His Holy Commandments. But for Christ to live in you, as Paul says I die daily. That is the standard we must reach if we are to stand in His preasence.

[Jondadon2006]

"For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, "

Now this is what it means to have the grace of God in our lives

"Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;" Titus 2:11,12

Grace is the transforming power of God.

God bless

[prudentheart]

You had better keep His commandments; otherwise you will not get into the Kingdom. Stop making excuses to justify your unwillingness to walk in holiness. Did Yeshua not say, "Be ye perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect?" Do you think Yeshua was making some kind of mistake? If youre not holy its only because you do not fear God. If you are going to preach it; don't be like the Pharisees, practice what you preach or it will be harder for you to justify your ignorance at your judgment.

[Jondadon2006]

I dont think you understand. I through my human strength can't keep the commandments of God which is why when we accept Christ, He lives in us (Righteousness by faith)

It i easy to keep the commandments when Self is denied and buried with the old man

[MrMrabner]

Jon is right. "the carnal mind is enmity against the law of God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be" Romans 8: 7

[eilidha]

How not to get the mark of the beast- when you hear on the news that you have to go down to your doctor or hospital and get a chip or anykind of mark either on your right hand or your forehead so that you can continue to buy and sell...don't go.How easy is that? just a footnote I think it would be a good idea to set up a vege patch and some fruit trees in your garden if not for yourself (rapture) then for those left behind who are trying to stand strong and refuse the mark.

[459triple3]

@eilidha And what happens when that never happens. While you are waiting to here about going to a doctor to receive a mark or chip and the Congress of the United States passes a federal law that says, "To stop all instances of acts of terrorism because of religious beliefs, all persons residing in the US will worship the same God and report to church on Sunday. Anyone operating a business on Sunday will lose their license." See which is more realistic according to the times.

[eilidha]

@459triple3 it will happen the bible says it will happen.ok so it doesnt say "chip" but it does say every man woman and child- slave and free will be required to recieve a mark either on the right hand or the forehead in order to continue to buy or sell. I think this is more realistic than forcing people to go to church most people these days couldn't care less about religion and would fight against going to church more than they would against getting chipped.

[459triple3]

@eilidha Really. So you think that if freedom of religion is removed from the United States code and the government then tells you when and how to worship and enforces it by sanction and there is no legal way to stop them because of the fear they will cause by planned "acts of terrorism" which they will use to make the laws for Sunday observance, that people would rather be called an enemy of the state than take a chip. Anyone told "receive this chip in r/hand or forehead would run.

[459triple3]

@eilidha However, make a law that says everyone has to go to church on Sunday. All people who go would consider that "the county returning to God" and gladly go. Many people were sprinkled in church as children even though they don't go now. Having no allegiance to the Bible that does not support the practice, they would have no problem obeying if the option is losing their job or business license for not complying. Meanwhile, people would still be looking for the mysterious chip.

[eilidha]

@459triple3 I disagree the church is so distasteful to most most people organised religion has proven itself to be full of liars, cheats paedophiles etc. The US government knows this and through the media perpetuates the idea that christians are closed minded, judgemental, hypocritical etc.At the same time we are being told that our future is unsafe, our bank accounts could be hacked into our cash and credit cards stolen etc.The average person is far more concerned about money than religion.

[459triple3]

@eilidha Precisely my point. Because most people are more concerned about money than religion, they would obey a Sunday law rather than study the Bible to know if it's biblically supported or not and thereby receive the Mark of the Roman Catholic Church's authority which is Sunday observance. I.E.: The Mark of the Beast.

[eilidha]

@459triple3 okay how about we don't go to church on sunday and if a chip is advertised to us to get implanted then we don't get it - all bases covered.I still think the mark will be an actual mark though

[459triple3]

@eilidha Well, I am a Sabbath Keeper not a Sunday observer anyway and besides that, I will not be looking for something that is not coming. You can look out for it though and let me know how that works for you. The Devil isn't stupid. He knows that if someone were to say, "Hey, come and take this chip in your right hand and if you don't have one, take it in your forehead" that everyone would run for cover. The Bible shows the mark is an issue of worship. "Chip" does not equal worship.

[eilidha]

@459triple3 cool see you in heaven xx

[ygp1012]

The 144,000 that R sealed R Hebrews ie. Jews they R male ie men and this one that nearly 99.87% of christians missed is becaure they don't pay attention. and it can B found in the old testament as the final proof! and they have been redeemd... ie Rev 14 4 " R THOSE WHO R

REDEEMED BY THE REDEMTION OF THE FIRST BORN MALE WHO OPENS THE WOMB " in order 2 understand what it all says U must view it all with Hebrew eyes and a throughal understanding of the INTIRE BIBLE not jest parts or some of it

[jatamode]

No Jews are Judeans and Benjamites that's it. The rest are Hebrew Israelites. The bloodline is determined by the father though.

[frenchis19]

the forehead is the new mind

and the 144 is the symbolic term of all who are born again of the holy ghost and this is the new mind in jesus our god

[frenchis19]

the seal of god is the holy ghost

[Jondadon2006]

May the Lord flood your heart with love. God bless

[KnowWhatIsTrue]

He is minupulative & only appears logical according to his OWN principals. the seal of God is NOT "A mark" the "Mark" in greek is Kargama- Which menas etching-graven- even statue. Very literally a MARK - NOT a "seal" The 144,000 were the FIRSTFRUITS (REV 14:4) - First comes when? FIRST not last- The 144,000 were the FIRST jewish christians (12,000 from each tribe of Israel- REV 7) The disciples and apostles! - CHURCH STOP LISTENING TO ALL THESE HERETICS AND KNOW YOUR BIBLE.

[Jondadon2006]

What your saying has to come from another part of the Bible to back it up. the 144000 doesn't even show the origional tribes of Israel. This is from nowhere but from the Bible

[amvieshus7]

There you are, dear friend, you call us heretics, didn´t the Roman Catholic Church killed millions already during the Dark Ages, saying that they are heretics? I tell you dear friend Satan will do it again before the coming of our loving God. The God of the Bible says Thou shalt not kill but they killed millions already and be doing that again to all true believers of God.

[amvieshus7]

Matthew 10:38 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul, but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. KJV

[hdiylove7]

"Does that make sense!?" statement does get old and you feel pretty elementary and yes he could slow down! National Sunday Law by A. Jan Marcussen is excellent reading on this topic, check it out!!!!!!!!

[MegAshleyPieroway]

This guys is ANNOYING and talks to fast

[theheat151]

Exodus 13:9 "And it shall be to you as a SIGN on your HAND and as a memorial between your EYES, that the law of the LORD may be in your mouth. For with a strong hand the LORD has brought you out of Egypt"

Do you see how this 'Sign' mirrors the Mark of the Beast(Hand and Forehead)? Yet this is the Seal of God mentioned in Revelation 7:2-3

This passage is explaining how in the Passover they used the blood of a lamb to protect themselves.

(John 3:33, Romans 4:11, 1 Cor 9:2, 2 Tim 2:19)