UN suspends Somalia food program

[YoureRacist]

fuck it, why go back? let them feed themselves with pirate money.

[libertits]

Latin America will be considered soon by the US the new terrorists, the new threats, the new foes.. I wonder what you will say about Islam then, since our countries are mostly Christian. The 7 military US bases in Colombia and the coup in Honduras are just the start, but of course with all the US backing coups history I am the freak. US is creating terrorists as long as they go on looking for excuses to invade, to terrorize, to exploit, to attack other countries. Chavez pays me to say this.

[libertits]

Why do these people pretend to care about people whose limbs are being cut off when they send troops to do the same? Why do you pretend to care about human rights? That's what pisses me off.. You think you have the moral right to judge a whole religion as if you were better. You're not, you're worse.

[libertits]

This American psycho, with a faith comparable to Jihadist faith but towards their government, its policies, because conservativism is their religion, dares to talk about who is evil based on their religion, in this case Islam. Is this not ironic? Mayas offered human sacrifices, they were evil, but this medieval thinking US American thinks that like Europeans had the right to interfere in the name of Christianity and show some values to those indians, that US is entitled to do the same to Islam

[libertits]

So as you see, you US Americans pointing at Muslims of being barbarians, but at the same time you supporting assassin dictators, paramilitary, repressive armies in Latin America or at least 100 years, makes you be a walking paradox, ie-- RIDICULOUS. You are barbarians accusing others of being barbarians.. You endorse war, and war is barbarism per se. Why don't you US pro war Americans open your eyes and stop being as laughable as you are! You have damaged my country so much, we loathe you!

[MikeG11986]

This is planned, its a form of population control. There has been threats and violence in that area for years, now they decide to pull out. This is part of a larger plan.

[libertits]

Exactly and concise. Few words, whole point.

[beancube2010]

Human languages are religious. Their own languages can break them.

Don't walk away because of attacks, just keep the food safe with the needed population.

According to religious history, chasing after those attackers using their own religious and gorilla tactics will win wars for these needed people.

[stratosjoebar]

so it goes like that?

''if you behave you eat, if you wont behave you will starv?

[Don1772]

Such a Failed move. The rebel just cork there own food supply to its people. And the food were free too.

[Spamoy12]

jihadi demands fire your bitchs and pay us rent for their people to eat thats crazy.

[latinamajor]

so.... not only do these ingrates want a free lunch but NOW they actually expect us to PAY THEM MONEY before they will allow us the honor of providing them with a free meal.

wow, that's just epic, isn't it?

[jdlvtrn]

Let the oil rich support their own, and hope the rest of the world can move to a new fuel technology and let them drown in it.

[Supernova310]

I have no sympathy for these people.... In somalia everyone has an Ak even the damn kids... if it was so bad for them they would revolt... if they're so disorganized as to let militia groups run them like that and they dont even bother to fight then let them die... Help only who are willing to help themselves

[trav1971]

primitaves

[libertits]

exactly. War is not civilization, it is the most atrocious barbarism, primitivism that human kind has ever known. Civilization is not about mobile phones, technology and apparent manners, it is about finding other ways than spilling blood to solve problems. US is run by primitives.

[scirocco860]

why do we have to feed those muslims? can't they work? if we continue to feed them they will get lazier than they already are. They don't have money for food but always have money to buy guns!

[libertits]

you feed them? what???? you rob them! you terrorize them because you want their resources. Don't expect them to just stay there and get robbed, , terrorized, and demonized by people like you. If Islam is terrorism, the same goes to "Christians" like you. People in third world countries work more than you can ever imagine. You don't feed them, you exploit them! You are a crazy fundamentalist yourself, you make me sick!

[wideawake123]

Somalia is now under the "peace of Islam". Al Shabab is already stoning and amputing limbs. Somalis are doomed in much the same way Afghanis were. No amount of aid will help once Islam has it's icey cold fingers at a country's throats.

[libertits]

Christians like you are also pro amputing limbs. last time I checked Americans still did that in the 50's with black people, now you're doing it against anyone you consider a terrorist. Isn't that a beautiful paradox? You talk about extremism, but of course torture and terrorism comes only from the non Western, while US Americans can do it all the time without ever being denominated so. Funny.

[wideawake123]

1st. America may be majority Christian, but our laws are based in a man-made Constitution. America is a secular country in that respect.

2nd. If the last you checked was 60yrs ago, that would mean you are desparate to find a logically fallacious argument. 60 years ago Blacks werent sentenced to amputations in America. 160 years ago yes, but we had a civil war to free them. There is no judicial or systemic basis for your argument. We arent amputating Terrorists either, so that's also false....

[libertits]

Ok, so I admit that amputing limbs from black people 50 years ago extralegally was not a good nor close example. But racism and marginalization is still there. Why don't you look at your policies towards latin america, which haven't changed a bit in the last 100 years? You are behind the coup d'etat in my country, you support it. Our countries are not sovereign because you have already your prefabricated "good governance" policies

[wideawake123]

What are you talking about? We have a Black President! Blacks constitue 14% of our population which means that White Christian Americans voted him in! Your arguments without exception are fallacious and childish. You want to talk about coups de tete in LA? What century are you living in? If you have to reach 40-50 and 60 years back for examples..you dont have an argument. There are freshly amputated limbs on a floor somewhere in Somailia as I write this. Al Shabab is the Somali Taliban=Evil.

[libertits]

My arguments are fallacious? I am showing you two fingers, yet you insist it is one, like a typical fascist without arguments, just good slogans. Who gave you the entitlement to decide who is evil? YOU are evil and your government is evil, you are a terrorist!The difference between my arguments is that I HAVE LIVED THIS, this is not a fallacy, this is what one LIVES IN THE THIRD WORLD. I AM HONDURAN. Your arguments are empty, just good slogans echoeing what the media and your government spreads

[libertits]

I am not talking black people now, nor in 50 years, I admitted that this argument was weak and gave you at least 6 arguments, with educated basis because I had some philosophy and anthropology courses in uni, you educate yourself with a monster like Regan, you are the typical stupid, nationalist, nazi closet loving american. Your country was only against the nazis til pearl harbor was attacked, before Hitler was a nice guy as well as Mussolini. Everything against communism and terrorism

[libertits]

fallacious and childish arguments, you say? I am a third world nigger who knows all about this, who is stating you FACTS about what happens in our countries, yet you because you are US American think that you just because you say something against my arguments it is true what you say? why don't you check this international justice court nüremberg trials in 1989 against your country? why don't you say anything against the well documented arguments i put on your face?

[libertits]

It doesn't matter if your Obama is black, he is exactly doing what Bush, Reagan, Roosevelt does. It is not about skin colour, but about policies. The fact your president is black it doesn't mean the state department and foreign policy stops being racist, YOU argue superficially and like a child. You think Obama's skin colour, like a kindergardener would say, hides all the barbarism your country does? Al Shabab is evil, US are the good guys? is this not childish? hahaha

[libertits]

policies based on preventing threats as social reforms to give power to the peoples, ones that make the big corporation of your countries pay for free trade and to not exploit our peoples, to pay more taxes. You got everything you have through government concessions, you want to have governments in Latin America that are conservative and submit to your wishes, no matter if they are dictators, if they kill thousands, as long as they are "right".

[libertits]

i meant fair trade not "free

[libertits]

You supported the Somozas in Nicaragua, a dinasty of dictators who stole everything and literally lived like kings, this was not 50 years ago but 20. You were in the International Court of Justice accused for agression towards Nicaragua, the whole UN council voted against USA and accused you of guilty of all charges. Agression is a higher crime internationally than terrorism, only the Nüremberg trials have that range, you had it too and a little while ago.

[wideawake123]

Somoza was 30 years ago. Next did you want to talk about Iran/Contra(oh I see you did...)? Why dont you pay a little visit to "Todayville", or "Current Events Junction"...I think you need a break. You've trotted out decades old tuquoque from last century to try to what? Justify the Taliban in Somalia? This video is about the UN pulling Out of Somalia because of Al Shabab and their kind. It's anout an Ideological Death of a Nation and the failure of a State because of Islamism. WaKe Up!

[libertits]

Your country is fascist, it is another nazi Germany. You are fascist, you are a nationalist monster bigot.

[libertits]

MICHELETTI IS NOW, not 30 years ago. There are no contras but there are plenty of death squads doing this labor. Your foreign policy has not changed a bit. I hope next time you get charged by the UN and the international court of justice you get fucked like the nazis did, but of course that isnt going to happen, you own everything.

[libertits]

Do you really think your country cares and is invading these countries because they are concerned about barbarism? Do you think barbarism is fought with more barbarism? You are really naive to think that those who govern your country want to save populations from barbarism through more barbarism. You are naive to think that they care. All wars since the start of humanity were based on resources and will always be. Questioning your government and the media would show you have intelligence.

[libertits]

So you are supporting far right death squads in latin america who torture and amputate limbs of those who they consider "communists". This is happening right now and extralegally, does this make it better? If you tell me this is a fallacy, when I know people who underwent these tortures by US supported police and armies in my country, I can just laugh at a poor person like you.

[wideawake123]

No you moron. You point to a single comment I've made anywhere on YouTube in support of "rightwing deathsquads" point to a single statement by a current member of my government in support of "rightwing deathsqauds". You entire argument is based on lies falsehoods and 60 year old logical fallacy. I'm done with you. You dont want to discuss Somalis and their plight, you want to attack America. I suggest you do that somewhere else. This video is about the UN and Al Shabab in Somalia.

[libertits]

there is no proof that your government supported rightwing deathsquads? well, the international court of justice has this evidences, for nothing your country would be condemned but figured out a way out of those second nüremberg trials. Everyone knows what you did, I lived it as a child, we all know it, we all saw it, you are simply an illiterate and phoney nihilist.

[libertits]

my entire argument is based on falsehoods? does my experience and the experience of millions in latin america a falsehood? says someone, an ignorant, spoiled western bigot behind a computer screen who doesn't know a shit about repression, wars or anything? don't make me laugh my ass off you idiot

[wideawake123]

3rd. I never said anything about "extremism", I despise the use of it when discussing Islam. You go ahead and make a case for Islamic Jihadism and Islamists being "etremist" in their practices, I'll listen. Apparently you were so busy coming up with 60yr old fallacies you didnt bother with current events. Judicial amputations and stonigs are part and parcel with Sharia. People are Stoned to death for Adultery. They are executed for being homosexual. You want barbarism, look to the Muslim World.

[libertits]

Fallacies are the ones you state and the evidence is that you are using strawman arguments--putting words in my mouth : I am not denying that judicial amputations and stonings happen and that there is barbarism in the Muslim World, but there is also barbarism in USA, oops sorry! Guantánamo is not US territorry, that's why it's extrajudicial barbarism. So your logic works this way: just because something is extrajudicial it doesn't happen.

[libertits]

There is barbarism in Christianity, in any religion or political ideology in the world. But I cannot deem all Muslim people or Christian people of being barbarian.. That's fucking stupid, biggoted, ignorant, and certainly, ironically not wide awake, mr, "wide awake"

[wideawake123]

You accuse me of making "strawman arguments" afdter you just Made Shit Up about judicial amputations in the USA in the 50s! You're Cracked in the Head! Now you've moved on to to repreating the Jihadist rhetoric about Guantanamo...Perfect! You couldnt be more idiotic if you tried. You want to equate "waterboarding" with drilling into someone's bones? You want to equate putting women's panties on a man's head with slicing off their hand? Get a grip.. It's Somali Taliban It's Islam Stupid!

[libertits]

i said that argument about black in the 50's is ridiculous, why do you insist with it? this argument is senseless when your government backs up mercenaries and death squads who are cutting the limbs of my peoples RIGHT NOW IN HONDURAS.

[libertits]

But of course, you cannot say anything against that, you want to cover up the sun with a finger, and everything I say is a lie because you are a supremacist American who believes blindly in your government as if it were god, that's your faith that leads you to the same extremism you criticize from Jihadists. YOU TERRORIST. STOP FUCKING AROUND WITH MY COUNTRY AND PEOPLE, stop criticizing others of the same you do. That's my argument.

[libertits]

Look, you're not the world police, you are not saving the Muslim World from barbarism. War and invasion, attacks---- VIOLENCE only harvests MORE VIOLENCE. Why don't you use logic? Also, do you know that you have to look at yourself in the mirror first and correct your barbarism before judging others of it? This is another culture, no culture can judge another culture, deem it for barbarism, while it is itself barbarian.

[libertits]

Do you know what pluralism is? The Mayas also made human sacrifices and Europeans deemed them of having no soul, of being evil, and that didn't give them a single right to invade them, to opress them, obligue them to their own religion, to slaugher them and kill them, to exploit them, steal their resources, to want to change their ways, ways they don't understand, while they at the same time slaughtered these indians and claimed to be doing this in the name of Christ.

[libertits]

You are doing the same with a culture you can't judge. You cannot accuse them all of being terrorists. Fundamentalists and extremists are a minority, like the Taliban and the neocons in USA. I cannot deem whole populations based on the horrors these small groups do. Look at yourself, look at Guantanamo, look at the wars, look at what you did to Philipinnes, what you STILL do to Latin America.. Look at the coups, look at all you do, you are the most barbarian country in the world!

[wideawake123]

You need to come up with a rational explanation why you turned the furum discussion about the UN having to pull out of Somalia because of Islamists, and the descent of Somalia into hell as a result of Al Shabab into a Rant at the USA, or leave me the fuck alone...Better Yet, just leave me the fuck alone freak.

[libertits]

Yes, I am a freak fucked up by the psychopath policies of your country and monsters like you who support it and think you know all about the world from a computer screen and a book written by Reagan (lol).

[libertits]

My rational argument is the following: Don't accuse all Muslims of being barbarians, extremists, of cutting limbs when your governmet is aiding death squads currently based in my country to cut the limbs off my people. You are a closet nazi, you don't listen to arguments. If a rational argument comes from someone from the third world, it is not rational because i am a brainless nigger, you are supreme!

[wideawake123]

Fuck you and your Tuquoque arguments. You proved only that you are zealous in your hatred of the USA. Dont Come Here. We Dont Want You. My guess is that you are employed by Hugo Chavez to spout bullshit propaganda. So drop dead quickly and leave me alone Freak. This forum is for the discussion of Somalia and the UN. We're done.

[libertits]

While I don't need to write one word to this because you have evidenced yourself as an idiot with this answer, which has no arguments, but an accusation that took me to the floor of laughter (we don't need Hugo Chavez for people like you to deserve every bit of resentment because of the harm you've caused centuries and decades before there was a Chavez, who I don't support) And it's not being zealous, nor jealous, we just want you to let us live in peace. Brilliant "argument""! lol

[libertits]

hahaha and who told YOU that I want to go to your country? Don't flatter yourself.. see what a supremacist, self-righteous arrogant, pretentious and bigotted person you are? NEVER do i want to step a foot in your ugly country although i did already unfortunately, your ugly dirty Miami beaches uncomparable with Honduran beautiful Caribbean beaches! don't make me laugh.. Chavez didn't exist in the 80s and you already had your interventionist and aggressive policies towards us, which you still hold

[wideawake123]

You switched from TuQuoque to Adhominem...Now I'm a "supremist" , 'closet nazi" who believes ALL MUSLIMS are amputators...How bout this? Fuck you and leave me the fuck alone Freak. I made a comment based on the News Clip about the ideological struggle and now Death of Somalia because of the Somali Taliban Al Shabab. You made up stories about Judicial Amputations of Blacks in America in the 50s. You are the worst kind of liar and an obvious waste of anyone's time.

We're done here Freak.

[libertits]

I don't need to say that blacks were amputated by KKK 60 years ago, I said this argument was weak and irrelevant, because who needs it when NOW, today, 2010 your government supports mercenaries and death squads who cut off the limbs of my peoples who are accused of being terrrorists and communists? Why do you have deviate and insist with the same? this shows how weak at dialectic you are. You have ZERO arguments.You hold no moral ground to judge people from Somalia or anyone being from US

[wideawake123]

"Weak and irrelevant"?! You Made That Argument! It Was Your Argument you Freak!!You're wasting my time with your Chavez financed Fantasy. How about you make a comment directed at the forum about the UN distributing food in Somalia and Al Shabab preventing it, and leave me the fuck alone? Or...You can continue to flood the post with your insane fantastic rhetoric...I dont care either way...Just Leave Me Alone!

We're Done Here you Freak!

[libertits]

You sound like a highschool student who has is not over the "freak" and "loser" name-calling or better yet, like a kindergardener saying calling someone else a freak because you have no other arguments, because I don't agree with you (that's pretty mature). My rhetoric is insane because I have lived all your country does to countries like mine, I am telling you all of your nightmares and the thingsyou don't want to see nor believe about your country, I am the ghost of your US past and present.

[libertits]

"Go away, leave me alone" --whine like a baby, you are hysterical! Your argument: accusing me of being paid by Chavez, because of course all the damage your country has done to mine is a Chavez fabrication before Chavez even existed. all I am telling you is that you should be the ones to leave our countries in peace.

[libertits]

You are so sad, you are a walking paradox, you talk about insane rhetoric but this is exactly what you do, you don't know what rhetoric is, less how to use it. You have no moral grounds to accuse Somalians, your country is not better and is doing the same limb cutting you accuse them to my peoples: that's my point and it's perfectly logical and valid, this is your insanity.

It's ONLY a honour to be considered a freak by someone who says the horrible things you do and support.