@ahlkhalid Can you define Tasawuff? i am sure you can not define tasawuff. then who has gave you the right to speak against Tasawuff?Tasawuff Tazkiya-e-nafs ka naam hai.jis ki taleem Quran nay b di.Or khud Allah Rabbulizzat farmaty hain k "Ay Rasool (S.A.W) hum nay ap ko is liye b bheja hai k logon ka Tazkiya-e-nafs".yani logon k dil say dunya ki mohabbat ko nikal do or yahi Tasawuff ki definition hai.jo ap smajh rahy ho k"Dhol bajana,Raqs karn,Dhmal dalna" ye Tasawwuf hai..to esa bilkul nai.
i love barrey Javed sb. (ahmad Javed). he is like the sweet grandpaa. It takes me some time to understand what he is saying because he is so learned he can not come below a certain level but i still love listening to him. As for this issue, i think Ghamidi just nailed it. it is very difficult to differ from his point in this regard. specially after the arguments he has given from all those books.
3 men said "I will offer the prayer throughout the night forever." The other said, "I will fast throughout the year and will not break my fast." The third said, "I will keep away from the women and will not marry forever." Allah's Apostle said to them "By Allah, I am more submissive to Allah and more afraid of Him than you; yet I fast and break my fast, I do sleep and I also marry women.So he who does not follow my tradition in religion, is not from me " (sahih Bukhari Book62, Hadith 1)
Ghamdi is a jahil. Ibn Taymiya and Ibn Qayyim said there are three types of tawheed so how can he use Ibn Qayyim as reference? Ibn Qayyim ki party khud 3 tawheed ko maanti hei aur woh kahan Qur'an aur Sunnat mein hei?
Haadis and qadeem and such terms are tashreehaat of surah ikhlas. This is the detail of it. Madaarij are the stages of tajribaat of Surah Ikhlas. The stages are according to how close you are to Allah and that's your experience of Surah Ikhlas . Is mein kya mushkil baat hei?
My mother tongue is Punjabi. My national language is Urdu. I am doing business in broken English moreover, Allah has made my religion in Arabic the language more then 99.99% Pakistani even don't speak, read, write, and completely don't understand.
The great thing I like about Ghamdi Sahab is that he allows me not to agree with him in all the things, while the others are like they know it best and since its 1400 year old than it must be true!! Masalaam
Uptil now I haven't found Mr Ghamdi agaist Quran or teaching of Hadis and this all what should matter to any MUSLIM and not what are ancestors use to belief. You all accuse and label him w/o talking to him in person!! BUT SEE, not even once he has taken names of any Maulvi and called them 'deviant', or shaitaan, etc.. He really follows the example of Prophet (pbuh) and invite everyone on Quran and with patience.
I would just like to comment on my brother (alias) Mr. Djarullah statement that one should have difference based on some evidence. Please share your evidence!!! The example you are trying to use that "written by the scholars of Islam for the past 1400 years....." than I would say we should all convert to Hindusim as its one of the oldest religion and they are nearly 1 billion Hindus (approx). SO ARE THEY ALL WRONG IN their religious belief??? I will not anwser that.
Ghamidi is a deviant. His understanding of Islam opposes what has been said and written by the scholars of Islam for the past 1400 years. Sufism is an integral part of Islamic orthodoxy, and has been viewed as such by the VAST MAJORITY OF MUSLIM SCHOLARS.
A Sufi is great Muslim privided his all actions are as per Quran. Any so called Sufi if acts and says some thing (when not in ecstacy) which is against Kitaab-Allah is Kafir & Mulhid. When a Sufi is in ecstacy, do not measure his actions with sharia, nor sharia is enforceable on a person who is in ecstacy. If a sufi says in ecstacy "Ana-Al-Haq, do not curse him nor decalre him a kafir. But if he says in normal condition "An-Al-Haq, for sure he is a Zindeeq
Ghamidi is true
MrDon313 5 months ago
tasawaf nay islam ki jaroon ko kohla kar dia. islam main is kay kohi daleel aur saboot nahi hain.
ahlkhalid 1 year ago
@ahlkhalid Can you define Tasawuff? i am sure you can not define tasawuff. then who has gave you the right to speak against Tasawuff?Tasawuff Tazkiya-e-nafs ka naam hai.jis ki taleem Quran nay b di.Or khud Allah Rabbulizzat farmaty hain k "Ay Rasool (S.A.W) hum nay ap ko is liye b bheja hai k logon ka Tazkiya-e-nafs".yani logon k dil say dunya ki mohabbat ko nikal do or yahi Tasawuff ki definition hai.jo ap smajh rahy ho k"Dhol bajana,Raqs karn,Dhmal dalna" ye Tasawwuf hai..to esa bilkul nai.
iamwaqas1 11 months ago
subhanAllah.. Peaceful Islamic debate ! I love the soft style of speaking of Ghamdi Sahab though I disagree with him badly on several issues.
hasancoool 1 year ago
@hasancoool
me too
faisaldinaa 1 year ago
i love barrey Javed sb. (ahmad Javed). he is like the sweet grandpaa. It takes me some time to understand what he is saying because he is so learned he can not come below a certain level but i still love listening to him. As for this issue, i think Ghamidi just nailed it. it is very difficult to differ from his point in this regard. specially after the arguments he has given from all those books.
manidar1977 1 year ago
what a respect full environment of debate MASHALLAH
ThePakiparis 1 year ago
3 men said "I will offer the prayer throughout the night forever." The other said, "I will fast throughout the year and will not break my fast." The third said, "I will keep away from the women and will not marry forever." Allah's Apostle said to them "By Allah, I am more submissive to Allah and more afraid of Him than you; yet I fast and break my fast, I do sleep and I also marry women.So he who does not follow my tradition in religion, is not from me " (sahih Bukhari Book62, Hadith 1)
JudgeD007 1 year ago
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Ghamdi is a jahil. Ibn Taymiya and Ibn Qayyim said there are three types of tawheed so how can he use Ibn Qayyim as reference? Ibn Qayyim ki party khud 3 tawheed ko maanti hei aur woh kahan Qur'an aur Sunnat mein hei?
Haadis and qadeem and such terms are tashreehaat of surah ikhlas. This is the detail of it. Madaarij are the stages of tajribaat of Surah Ikhlas. The stages are according to how close you are to Allah and that's your experience of Surah Ikhlas . Is mein kya mushkil baat hei?
JilaniQadri 1 year ago
IT IS NOT PARALLEL RELIGION BUT IT IS DEEN ISLAM IT IS ONLY ISLAM NOTHING ELSE...
rabbaniqadri 1 year ago
''Uploader'' can yu translate this talk in english?..don't understand it..
warioreaction 1 year ago
sufism..............Ghamdi sahib keh rahain ke glass adha (half) pane se bhara
howa hai jabke javeed sahub keh rahee hain ke glass adha (half) pane se khalee hai...dono apne gajha thak hain.
sufiism ka talak dil aur ruh se hai aur mazhab ka talak aqal o danish se....
zulfeebaig 1 year ago
gHAMDI IS A GREAT SCHOLAR....
usman4949 1 year ago 9
Ghamdi Gives you the Knowledge and let you to judge...best things is dosn't impose any thing..
and a man who listen him...
try to use his own brain...
tat's wot i like...
moazzamAlii 2 years ago 8
Ghamdi is one of the boldest TRUTHFUL and brave scholar in the history of Indopak
PurgingFalsehood 3 years ago 2
also read Professor Ahmed Rafiq Akhter !!
sufined 2 years ago
Thought of a Pakistani
My mother tongue is Punjabi. My national language is Urdu. I am doing business in broken English moreover, Allah has made my religion in Arabic the language more then 99.99% Pakistani even don't speak, read, write, and completely don't understand.
Faisal Masood.
faisalmasoodsunny 3 years ago 2
that is why you learn arabic language.
harmonicamajor 2 years ago
The great thing I like about Ghamdi Sahab is that he allows me not to agree with him in all the things, while the others are like they know it best and since its 1400 year old than it must be true!! Masalaam
smakskm 3 years ago
Uptil now I haven't found Mr Ghamdi agaist Quran or teaching of Hadis and this all what should matter to any MUSLIM and not what are ancestors use to belief. You all accuse and label him w/o talking to him in person!! BUT SEE, not even once he has taken names of any Maulvi and called them 'deviant', or shaitaan, etc.. He really follows the example of Prophet (pbuh) and invite everyone on Quran and with patience.
smakskm 3 years ago
I would just like to comment on my brother (alias) Mr. Djarullah statement that one should have difference based on some evidence. Please share your evidence!!! The example you are trying to use that "written by the scholars of Islam for the past 1400 years....." than I would say we should all convert to Hindusim as its one of the oldest religion and they are nearly 1 billion Hindus (approx). SO ARE THEY ALL WRONG IN their religious belief??? I will not anwser that.
smakskm 3 years ago
great discussion.
pakwatangeo 3 years ago
Ghamidi is a deviant. His understanding of Islam opposes what has been said and written by the scholars of Islam for the past 1400 years. Sufism is an integral part of Islamic orthodoxy, and has been viewed as such by the VAST MAJORITY OF MUSLIM SCHOLARS.
Djarullah 3 years ago
A truth that many donot understand:
A Sufi is great Muslim privided his all actions are as per Quran. Any so called Sufi if acts and says some thing (when not in ecstacy) which is against Kitaab-Allah is Kafir & Mulhid. When a Sufi is in ecstacy, do not measure his actions with sharia, nor sharia is enforceable on a person who is in ecstacy. If a sufi says in ecstacy "Ana-Al-Haq, do not curse him nor decalre him a kafir. But if he says in normal condition "An-Al-Haq, for sure he is a Zindeeq
PurgingFalsehood 2 years ago
Great discussion. Thanks for sharing. Please add Ghamidi to your tags.
saifulilm 3 years ago 2