studies have shown that SAT scores correlate very little with success in college. that's why stanford doesn't consider them nearly as much as schools like harvard and yale. instead, stanford requires more essays and weighs factors like teacher recommendations, essays, and extracurricular activities far more heavily.
great video! so i have a question myself. i am 14 years old and i am a freshman i am an eagle scout, captian of the golf team, the lacross team, and debate team. i have take both a high school SAT and ACT and received a 24 on my ACT and a 1200 on SAT i toke them when i was only 13. Sanford has been my dream school for years and was wondering if you thought i had any chance of getting. then again i graduate in 4 years but do you still think that they would be interested in someone like me?
You people are so fucking ignorant. Honestly. Yeah it sucks that some people have advantages because of their skin color but to be brutally honest, as a white woman, I've had more advantages than most colored people throughout my whole life. I don't give a shit if they have a better chance of getting into college than I. They DESERVE the advantage that, in often cases, white Americans have neglected to give them. If you think they are the ones that keep you from being accepted, then work harder.
@caraconcerta true, but what about the ethnicities that are disadvantaged by aa? asian families come to america to seek a better life, and many times, the parents can't speak english and probably work in a sweatshop, if at all. their circumstances are equally as difficult. how do you think these parents feel when they discover their child has a much lower chance of succeeding because of the heritage he was born into? is this really equality?
@chinswagger I think you're generalizing. I live in an area that is heavily populated with asians. I go to school with 4500 kids, and I'd say at least 3000 of them are asian. There are definitely some who come from "fobs" or are 1st generation americans, but if a child dealt with such hardship as having parents who were forced to work in sweatshops, perhaps they should focus on selling themselves with that circumstance. It's horrible, but American education is fucked up.
@caraconcerta And you must see that those who have incredible life stories are not common. Believe me. I know of only two students that have had stories like the one you stated, and I know thousands of Senior Asians who are trying to get into college. It's a rough race for Asians in general. I honestly could write more about this but it's not worth making like 5 comments, ya know? And I never said any of this was equality, but it's necessary. At least that's what I believe.
@caraconcerta i completely understand where you're coming from; you're right, minorities do need to be lifted. my point is, however, that ALL minorities need to benefit from aa. why should asians get the brunt of the negatives when the other minorities enjoy aa’s benefits? i don’t think i’m generalizing. as an asian american myself, i don’t just understand the problems facing asians; i live it every single day.
@chinswagger here’s the problem: when you think of asians, you probably think of notoriously competitive groups such as the chinese, japanese, and koreans; but trust me—they’re not the only asians out there. immigrants from poverty-stricken countries such as cambodia need just as much aid as the blacks or the hispanics. i agree that something needs to be done about the performance gap, but i just don’t think that affirmative action is the solution.
affirmative action is bs. I wonder how this student would react if they told her, "you only got in this uni to fulfill a target - you got in because of your race." I bet she wouldn't be so arrogant, then.
@chinswagger you should look at stanford's admissions FAQ. regarding affirmative action, stanford emphasizes that what's more important than your ethnicity is your background, i.e. the context of your accomplishments (in other words, are you poor or disadvantaged?), crossing ethnic lines. regarding your example of a family of asian immigrants, in reality these students have a huge advantage. being a low-income, immigrant applicant, even if you're asian, is an advantage in stanford admissions.
for someone giving advice about LOW SAT scores (as low as 1800 and still applying to Stanford) and trying to convice us not to "trip" just goes to show that afirmative action is one way to get into Stanford.
@al2275 no, it isn't. you never saw the rest of her application, so you can't say how strong an applicant she was (Stanford does not weigh SAT scores very heavily compared to more subjective factors; as said before, SAT scores correlate very little with success in college, and Stanford realizes that)
Not having the same education resources or coming from a low income home is not an excuse. If you want to succeed you will find the way no matter what adversities you face. The fact is, life is more than unfair, its simply indifferent. Good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people; therefore, you must do what it takes to succeed even if others have it more easier than you
i want to go to Stanford!! But no one except my Spanish teacher wants me to go btw I am frm New York.. do you know any Stanford students from the NorthEast??
Amen. For all the comments about affirmative action...ha. I'm glad that you are not an admissions officer because as she stated: it is a holistic application process. A lot of low-income minorities are forced to have inferior educations and inadequate test prep which would give most people low scores. Colleges take people on potential to succeed not privilege.
I am a college student at Renssalear Polytechnic Institute and had the same low SAT score worries as I had a 1760 with a 640 on the math section. What you say is true.
At 5:04 you said see "what is in them" and all I am wondering is what will it take for a brother to get inside you?
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MsVictoriaShantrell -- I'm a high school senior and recently I've felt very worn down by the whole application process. I think people forget that the point of going to college is to improve your life and the lives of others; in fact, many people act as if their sole purpose in life (at this moment) is getting into Stanford. I wish I had kept the perspective better, but I'm starting to think more positively now, and seeing your video has made me more hopeful as well. Thank you.
Honestly, people tell me that I'm going to get into good school's because I'm native, and that's not fair. Yes, many schools have under 1% of Native American or Alaska Native students at their institution, so my ethnicity is a positive for them, but if I don't have what it takes to get in, there's no point in accepting me. If I get into Stanford, it's because I earned it, not because I'm (part) Alaska Native. Conversely, MS.VS got in on her own merits, not because she's African American.
Love the video, but to be honest, I have no clue of what "affirmative action" means. I feel I am a strong candidate, despite my economic depravities as a young Latino. Nevertheless, can someone please give a thorough explanation of what aa means? Thank you in advance.
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CHINESE TOOK OVER STANDFORD UNIVERSITY. WE EDUCATE CHINESE , THEY GRADUATE , GO BACK TO CHINA AND FUCK OUR ECONOMY. DONT FUCKING TELL ME STANDFORD UNIVERSITY IS IN USA, ITS NOT ITS IN CHINA, SOON WE WILL WORK FOR CHINESE. CHINA IS TAKING OVER AND WE ARE STUPID WE PUT OUR KIDS INTO ARTS, WHILE CHINESE PUT THEIRS INTO ENGENEERING, ETC. ONE MORE TIME, WE DRINK TO MUCH CAFFEINE AND WE ARE STUPID, ALL AMERICAN UNIVERSITIES WHO ACCEPT CHINESE STUDENTS ARE STUPID, SHAME ON YOU !
Affirmatve action has become the crass leitmotif for the kvetchy underachievers. According to them, everytime someone other than a white male ascends in business or academics, it's due primarily to affirmative action.
Since Stanford emphasizes diversity, do you think my chances of getting accepted will go up if I'm an African American student from Harlem New york who will graduate in the top 11% of senior class?
CHINESE TOOK OVER STANDFORD UNIVERSITY. WE EDUCATE CHINESE , THEY GRADUATE , GO BACK TO CHINA AND FUCK OUR ECONOMY. DONT FUCKING TELL ME STANDFORD UNIVERSITY IS IN USA, ITS NOT ITS IN CHINA, SOON WE WILL WORK FOR CHINESE. CHINA IS TAKING OVER AND WE ARE STUPID WE PUT OUR KIDS INTO ARTS, WHILE CHINESE PUT THEIRS INTO ENGENEERING, ETC. ONE MORE TIME, WE DRINK TO MUCH CAFFEINE AND WE ARE STUPID, ALL AMERICAN UNIVERSITIES WHO ACCEPT CHINESE STUDENTS ARE STUPID, SHAME ON YOU !
@cichlidiot94 I sure was! The ironic thing is even tho I was the lowest 1% at the beginning, I ended up in the top 10% at the end. Just another reason why SAT scores shouldn't leave you hopeless; they are not indicative of your true ability.
with your scores...specifically what WERE your ec's/grades? basically, what did you do to get in? I mean of course aa helped but there must have been something else...
@snotberg123 well, as I've said in other responses, my cum gpa was 4.3 and my entire senior yr I had a 4.75 (AP + college courses raised my gpa). I had began taking courses at the local college during my jr yr to pass time and continued that during as a sr. I founded several clubs on campus, participant in national academic competitions, etc. So I was not the average student by far; I just didn't do standardized test very well (particularly writing and English).
@MsVictoriaShantrell considering you speak of WEIGHTED gpa and assuming that AP classes counted as 5.0 while honors were 4.5 as it is at my school...I'm assuming that you had over 12-15 B's? and how did you have time to take courses at a local college or even let you into this "local college"? I'm asking this because I've been doing pretty badly in school (sophmore in h.s.) as I've been getting some B's while killing myself by going to school early for a class and skipping lunch for a class
@MsVictoriaShantrell like basically I made a schedule that would allow me to take 4 AP's as a sophmore (generally I'd only be able to take 3) in that I gave up lunch and I paid $300 for a class before school in order to raise my rank and gpa (I take the highest courses possible but there's so much comopetition) but it kinda backfired since now I'm virtually dying...and also I have a local college here but I doubt they'd let me go and I'm working towards qualifying for AIME or maybe ARML
@snotberg123 chill out! Don't kill urself with work. It's about finding balance and being healthy- physically, mentally, and emotionally. If you end up getting some Bs and not going to the #1 school in the world, life will still be okay. Yes, prepare for the future; but, also live for the now. Right now, you're no more than 16 yrs old; enjoy going out with your friends, partying, watching tv, and things that 15 yrs old do. Don't stress about getting into a top ranking school.
@snotberg123 Just handle your business and live life. All that extra stuff like missing lunch for a class or paying $300 for a class is not necessary. At the end of the day, if I were an admission counselor and I saw a student who seemed to be overdoing it with classes and not paying attention to his/her mental/emotional/social health, I wouldn't admit them because they wouldn't seem like they'll be able to survive in this high-stressed atmosphere.
@snotberg123 Surviving is not merely doing well in courses and getting A's. Surviving college is graduating with a greater sense of self, a greater sense of one's role in our social world, a greater understanding of how he/she can contribute positively to our society, the ability to think clearly, the ability to interact with others in an effective manner, and a getting a degree. No great institution wants students who can only make the grade. Remember that.
@snotberg123 so perhaps aa did assist, but I think that I was pretty well qualified even if I wasn't Black. Plus my essays were probably what really set me apart from other applicants. I invite you to check them out at my website.
wow this is really encouraging. i always feel like the only piece i'm missing in my Application to the ivy leagues/equivalents is my standarized test scores. thanks so much! :)
People talk about affirmative action as though the recipient isn't required to put any work into earning the degree! If she wasn't capable of handling the curriculum she would not of been able to graduate with 2 degrees!
@ChrissyCuppycakes@DistortedV12 Affirmative Action most certainly does take place at private schools (it actually doesn't exist in CA public schools, however). And regardless of if I got in off of AA or not, all I'm going to say is this woman right here got two fucking degrees and I'm debt-free bitches! lol...
@TheOuroboros21 you consider it ghetto, I consider it AAVE. And yes, I still speak it. Who knew it was possible to go to an elite institution and retain your original tongue, right?
Respond to this video... Wow. This girl got in with a 1500 SAT?! I couldn't get in with my 2250 SAT...maybe it's because I'm white. Actually I KNOW it's because I'm white. You may ask how the FUCK does a person that scores below average in the national percentile get into one of the top universities in the world? This is a perfect example of the reverse racism known as affirmative action.
@TheOuroboros21 i've interacted, inside and outside of class, with many students who "speak ghetto." in class, they sound just like anyone else. outside, they're more willing to be themselves and "speak ghetto." look up the work of john rickford, a certified-badass professor at stanford, who argues that most black people in the US are actually bilingual, speaking both standard american english (a la ABC news) and african american vernacular english (AAVE).
@MsVictoriaShantrell this girl is probably debt-free too. unlike at the school you're graduating from, stanford's financial aid policy is loan-free - stanford replaced loans with grants, and if you make under $60k it's free; under $100k it's free tuition; and under $200k it's significantly reduced tuition. don't assume that prestigious school = expensive and puts you in debt. that isn't the case at stanford where 80% of the students are on some form of financial aid.
@mlope92805 Stanford looks at the total person and does not have a GPA or SAT cap or floor to my knowledge. So I say if this is where you want to be give your all in all aspects of the application and apply. And remember to not let the admission decision be a source of your validation! You are brilliant and will continue to be brilliant no matter where you go!
@MsVictoriaShantrell Thank you! You don't know how much you have helped me, not only did you give me hope but you have also changed my way of thinking in case I don't make it in. Thank you once again and thank you for posting this video. =)
Unfortunately, if you're either white or especially Asian there's almost no chance of getting into Stanford with sats low as 1800 even if everything else on your application is good. Like TheHarvardMIT said, it's all affirmative action. If you're black, hispanic, native american or pacific islander you can get into a college like stanford with literally half the qualifications as a chinese person. So yeah..take advantage of it if you can.
@MsVictoriaShantrell im going to the 11th grade and ive gotten 2s on all the ap exams ive taken ( ap human geo & apwh) but im not gonna let that get me down . & thanks for the fast reply
@MsVictoriaShantrell Hey iam an african american male and i feel like i would really fit in at stanford but my sats are low i was wondring if you can look over my essays and read over them for me. THank you
@TheHarvardMIT that shit amazes me, the fact that we have had to put up with shit for 200 years, and this one little thing that works to our advantage sends you into this outrage that's crazy fuck that shit get a fucking life and stop being so spoiled. We were not even allowed to go to college until like 50 years ago...for Christ sake they had to bring the national guard in to let a little black girl to to school. Cry me a rive and don't call me african America i have never even been to Africa.
Inspirational. I'll be considered as a prospective international student. My grades are good as well as my participation in sports and community service. All that I do is fueled by my intuitive capacity to learn and affect the world in a positive light. I've done my research and i'm awe-inspired by the phenomenal people who attended and currently attend and the impacts made. Stanford University seems to be the right fit. I too want to leave an indelible mark on our global community!
@joejacksonriley Well, I'm not going to lie and say that I didn't have a good application. I graduated with a 4.75 gpa, I just didn't have good SAT scores but beyond that, I was a helluva candidate.
@MsVictoriaShantrell And you obviously lacked any intellectual potential whatsoever. The SAT measures a student's aptitude meaning how successful you will most likely be in college. I'm guessing you got your degrees in some bullshit departments where work ethic took precedence over intelligence, like African-American Studies and English.
@moorecz1 You are such an ignorant jerk. I shouldn't even be taking the time to respond to you .I hope when you get rejected to your schools that you take the time to re-evaluate your concept of what success means. She's in the top 10% of her class at Stanford. You want to tell her she has no intellectual potential?
SATs cannot be said with certainty to measure anything beyond your ability to take a test. If you think success in college is defined within the parameters of a test, you've got a
huge wake up call in the future. Stop being so bitter over a rejection, celebrate the fact that there are good people trying to make positive things happen in the world, and go be one of those people.
You inspired me. Now I'm gonna go do my AP Bio and pray for my acceptance letter. Also congrats on graduating with honors, Dean's list, etc. You seem very confident and know where you're going! :)
However, I went to a TOP state university and graduated magna cum laude this past May. Now, I am in grad school, and I'm not paying a dime! So even if our children don't get into ivy leagues, they still have bright futures. =]
Great message to the incoming college students. I took the SAT in 05, when the highest possible score was only 1600, and got a 980. I balled my eyes out b/c I went to a gifted h.s. where majority of my peers got >1200 or at least cracked 1000. I thought it was the end of the world and wanted to retake it. But, I'm glad numerous people (including my parents) talked me out of it and shifted attention to my other credentials. I got into Columbia, but didn't go b/c of $. Cnt'd --->
Justin wondering, what extracurricular did you join? Yes, grades are not important and its truly the person you are that allows you get in. But, what was it that YOU did? What was it that showed you were not lazy? What did you put in your essay? What let the Stanford administration know that you have the potential to make a difference in our world? -A Freshman in Highschool
@vhusu12 Well I started a poetry organization that put on open mics at local coffee shops and a semiannual literary mag, I also started BSU at my school and I worked. But I also went to a community college while I was in hs, I had a cumm gpa of 4.3 and I maintained a 4.75 my entire senior year (AP classes gave me the bump). I moved around a lot and for the last 1.5 yrs of hs I traveled 60 miles every day to school (and 60 miles back).
Wow. That is amazing. So, to get into a prestigious school like Standford, do you recommend starting something, doing something big? Well, let me ask this, how did you start off? Before you even started your poetry organization... what did you do, how did you get there? As a Freshman... what things did you do?
@vhusu12 Well, I don't necessarily recommend that you start something or do something big; what I do recommend is that you be honest with yourself about what you enjoy or what you're passionate about and commit to it. I def. know lots of ppl who didn't start orgs or do something big in hs and attend Stanford. But they showed commitment to something beyond classwork (you gotta have a balance). Some of them were dancers, artists, or community service enthusiast; there's no one path..
@vhusu12 Before I started the poetry org, I sat around without a lot of fear and doubt. I had wanted to start the club when I first started hs- I always loved poetry- but I was too afraid that no one would join. So for 2 years I had an idea but allowed fear of failure keep me from making it reality. But when I switched schools jr yr, I said "fuck it" and went for it. And the crazy thing is it was wildly successful! We had the fire marshall come to one event bc it was so packed!
@vhusu12 So my advice to u as a frshmn is to learn how to say "fuck it" and do you. My biggest regret was not having the courage to say fuck it before I did. The first steps to making things happen is saying "fucking it; I'ma do it" and do then do it. But that only works for when it's something that you're really passionate about bc then you won't be too preoccupied by its "success"; success for you will be the fact that you followed that inside voice.
Thank you! Also, congrats on your poem club, thats amazing how it turned out to be so packed! Well, im going make sure to follow through with a certain passion, and to say "fuck it". Honesty, I have fear in me also, I better let it out as soon as possible. Thank you for the advice, and I might be having a few more questions in the future. Probably when I hit AP... (Next Year)
@vhusu12 No problem! feel free to hit me up whenever :).. and as for the fear, even the most fearless experience fear; they just don't allow that fear to keep them from moving forward. Learn to trust that inner voice inside and say fuck it! Also, don't be afraid to change. Your passions might change and as long as you're listening to that inner voice and not external ideas about who you're supposed to be, that change is growth... and growth is beautiful.. growth is living.. Take care!
@MrBric12 It cost about $60k/yr to go to Stanford (tuition, room/board, books, etc). I do not pay for my education. Being poor sucked as kid, but as an adult in college (at a wealthy private institution), I came up. lol..
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MrPatrickBalls 1 week ago
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s3xiisir3n 1 week ago
studies have shown that SAT scores correlate very little with success in college. that's why stanford doesn't consider them nearly as much as schools like harvard and yale. instead, stanford requires more essays and weighs factors like teacher recommendations, essays, and extracurricular activities far more heavily.
nyuckkyle 2 weeks ago
great video! so i have a question myself. i am 14 years old and i am a freshman i am an eagle scout, captian of the golf team, the lacross team, and debate team. i have take both a high school SAT and ACT and received a 24 on my ACT and a 1200 on SAT i toke them when i was only 13. Sanford has been my dream school for years and was wondering if you thought i had any chance of getting. then again i graduate in 4 years but do you still think that they would be interested in someone like me?
coozgolf1 1 month ago
Thanks for the advice, M'am. :D
MegaJackMeister 1 month ago
You people are so fucking ignorant. Honestly. Yeah it sucks that some people have advantages because of their skin color but to be brutally honest, as a white woman, I've had more advantages than most colored people throughout my whole life. I don't give a shit if they have a better chance of getting into college than I. They DESERVE the advantage that, in often cases, white Americans have neglected to give them. If you think they are the ones that keep you from being accepted, then work harder.
caraconcerta 1 month ago
@caraconcerta true, but what about the ethnicities that are disadvantaged by aa? asian families come to america to seek a better life, and many times, the parents can't speak english and probably work in a sweatshop, if at all. their circumstances are equally as difficult. how do you think these parents feel when they discover their child has a much lower chance of succeeding because of the heritage he was born into? is this really equality?
chinswagger 4 weeks ago
@chinswagger I think you're generalizing. I live in an area that is heavily populated with asians. I go to school with 4500 kids, and I'd say at least 3000 of them are asian. There are definitely some who come from "fobs" or are 1st generation americans, but if a child dealt with such hardship as having parents who were forced to work in sweatshops, perhaps they should focus on selling themselves with that circumstance. It's horrible, but American education is fucked up.
caraconcerta 4 weeks ago
@caraconcerta And you must see that those who have incredible life stories are not common. Believe me. I know of only two students that have had stories like the one you stated, and I know thousands of Senior Asians who are trying to get into college. It's a rough race for Asians in general. I honestly could write more about this but it's not worth making like 5 comments, ya know? And I never said any of this was equality, but it's necessary. At least that's what I believe.
caraconcerta 4 weeks ago
@caraconcerta i completely understand where you're coming from; you're right, minorities do need to be lifted. my point is, however, that ALL minorities need to benefit from aa. why should asians get the brunt of the negatives when the other minorities enjoy aa’s benefits? i don’t think i’m generalizing. as an asian american myself, i don’t just understand the problems facing asians; i live it every single day.
chinswagger 4 weeks ago
@chinswagger here’s the problem: when you think of asians, you probably think of notoriously competitive groups such as the chinese, japanese, and koreans; but trust me—they’re not the only asians out there. immigrants from poverty-stricken countries such as cambodia need just as much aid as the blacks or the hispanics. i agree that something needs to be done about the performance gap, but i just don’t think that affirmative action is the solution.
chinswagger 4 weeks ago
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affirmative action is bs. I wonder how this student would react if they told her, "you only got in this uni to fulfill a target - you got in because of your race." I bet she wouldn't be so arrogant, then.
al2275 2 weeks ago
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caraconcerta 4 weeks ago
@chinswagger you should look at stanford's admissions FAQ. regarding affirmative action, stanford emphasizes that what's more important than your ethnicity is your background, i.e. the context of your accomplishments (in other words, are you poor or disadvantaged?), crossing ethnic lines. regarding your example of a family of asian immigrants, in reality these students have a huge advantage. being a low-income, immigrant applicant, even if you're asian, is an advantage in stanford admissions.
nyuckkyle 2 weeks ago
@nyuckkyle
for someone giving advice about LOW SAT scores (as low as 1800 and still applying to Stanford) and trying to convice us not to "trip" just goes to show that afirmative action is one way to get into Stanford.
al2275 2 weeks ago
@al2275 no, it isn't. you never saw the rest of her application, so you can't say how strong an applicant she was (Stanford does not weigh SAT scores very heavily compared to more subjective factors; as said before, SAT scores correlate very little with success in college, and Stanford realizes that)
nyuckkyle 2 weeks ago
@nyuckkyle that may be so for stanford, but i'm referring to colleges in general.
chinswagger 3 days ago
Easy to say for African Americans... they can literally get into Harvard with a 1200 SAT score. Damn you affirmative action! Damn you!
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MrVarchie 2 months ago
@MrVarchie I don't "go" to Stanford.. I GRADUATED from Stanford.. with 2 degrees... thank you very much.. google me lol
MsVictoriaShantrell 2 months ago
you only got in cause ur black
Mycommentsgethumbsup 2 months ago
Thank You for the inspiration :)
iceecream6 2 months ago
Thank you for posting this video ! You are actually giving me hope ! I'm crossing my fingers ! I just want to be accepted in a good school !
BSabrine 2 months ago
Not having the same education resources or coming from a low income home is not an excuse. If you want to succeed you will find the way no matter what adversities you face. The fact is, life is more than unfair, its simply indifferent. Good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people; therefore, you must do what it takes to succeed even if others have it more easier than you
VincitOmniaVerit 2 months ago
She got in because shes fuckin black
Rbethell76 2 months ago
i want to go to Stanford!! But no one except my Spanish teacher wants me to go btw I am frm New York.. do you know any Stanford students from the NorthEast??
LadiiTricia23 2 months ago
Amen. For all the comments about affirmative action...ha. I'm glad that you are not an admissions officer because as she stated: it is a holistic application process. A lot of low-income minorities are forced to have inferior educations and inadequate test prep which would give most people low scores. Colleges take people on potential to succeed not privilege.
LeonardAThomas 2 months ago
@MsVictoriaShantrell lol, but im serious though. -__-
TheTice1 2 months ago
I am a college student at Renssalear Polytechnic Institute and had the same low SAT score worries as I had a 1760 with a 640 on the math section. What you say is true.
At 5:04 you said see "what is in them" and all I am wondering is what will it take for a brother to get inside you?
TheTice1 2 months ago 2
@TheTice1 lol smh
MsVictoriaShantrell 2 months ago 2
I am applying right now and I needed some inspiration. YOU JUST GAVE ME INSPIRATION! thanks :))
aashley9099 2 months ago
You seem like a Stanford student though. Optimistic, open-minded, passionate and eager to excel and succeed! I love this video.
peteribored777 2 months ago 2
I love this video! I know people who had test scores that were much higher than mine who didnt get in, but I did.
peteribored777 2 months ago
Yeah the first question on the Stanford app is Ethnicity? If you check anything but 'white' you are done filling out the app.
rastaischill 2 months ago
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Gna1128 2 months ago
MsVictoriaShantrell -- I'm a high school senior and recently I've felt very worn down by the whole application process. I think people forget that the point of going to college is to improve your life and the lives of others; in fact, many people act as if their sole purpose in life (at this moment) is getting into Stanford. I wish I had kept the perspective better, but I'm starting to think more positively now, and seeing your video has made me more hopeful as well. Thank you.
serena1232 2 months ago
Honestly, people tell me that I'm going to get into good school's because I'm native, and that's not fair. Yes, many schools have under 1% of Native American or Alaska Native students at their institution, so my ethnicity is a positive for them, but if I don't have what it takes to get in, there's no point in accepting me. If I get into Stanford, it's because I earned it, not because I'm (part) Alaska Native. Conversely, MS.VS got in on her own merits, not because she's African American.
serena1232 2 months ago
Love the video, but to be honest, I have no clue of what "affirmative action" means. I feel I am a strong candidate, despite my economic depravities as a young Latino. Nevertheless, can someone please give a thorough explanation of what aa means? Thank you in advance.
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qiongatamlotus 2 months ago
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CHINESE TOOK OVER STANDFORD UNIVERSITY. WE EDUCATE CHINESE , THEY GRADUATE , GO BACK TO CHINA AND FUCK OUR ECONOMY. DONT FUCKING TELL ME STANDFORD UNIVERSITY IS IN USA, ITS NOT ITS IN CHINA, SOON WE WILL WORK FOR CHINESE. CHINA IS TAKING OVER AND WE ARE STUPID WE PUT OUR KIDS INTO ARTS, WHILE CHINESE PUT THEIRS INTO ENGENEERING, ETC. ONE MORE TIME, WE DRINK TO MUCH CAFFEINE AND WE ARE STUPID, ALL AMERICAN UNIVERSITIES WHO ACCEPT CHINESE STUDENTS ARE STUPID, SHAME ON YOU !
democratsaresmart 3 months ago
Great insight! This video took away all the stress and doubt I've had about admissions!
Xxdrew102 3 months ago
Affirmatve action has become the crass leitmotif for the kvetchy underachievers. According to them, everytime someone other than a white male ascends in business or academics, it's due primarily to affirmative action.
Exegete84 3 months ago
No offense, but you probably go in because you are black, not because you are competitive with the non-black applicants.
highvoltage47 3 months ago
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Since Stanford emphasizes diversity, do you think my chances of getting accepted will go up if I'm an African American student from Harlem New york who will graduate in the top 11% of senior class?
assassin465 3 months ago
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CHINESE TOOK OVER STANDFORD UNIVERSITY. WE EDUCATE CHINESE , THEY GRADUATE , GO BACK TO CHINA AND FUCK OUR ECONOMY. DONT FUCKING TELL ME STANDFORD UNIVERSITY IS IN USA, ITS NOT ITS IN CHINA, SOON WE WILL WORK FOR CHINESE. CHINA IS TAKING OVER AND WE ARE STUPID WE PUT OUR KIDS INTO ARTS, WHILE CHINESE PUT THEIRS INTO ENGENEERING, ETC. ONE MORE TIME, WE DRINK TO MUCH CAFFEINE AND WE ARE STUPID, ALL AMERICAN UNIVERSITIES WHO ACCEPT CHINESE STUDENTS ARE STUPID, SHAME ON YOU !
democratsaresmart 3 months ago
I got 19 on my ACT do you think Im getting to the University of Illinois or Pennsylvania (state)??
ToFiiiii 3 months ago
Thank you sooooo much -3 I applied to Stanford EA with a "low" SAT score but a great character! hopefully I'm admitted.
Maliarianna 3 months ago
Thank you so much for this <3
mdsq36 3 months ago
You know that statistic that's the lowest of all the admitted students? Like the bottom 1% or so?
You're watching her video.
cichlidiot94 3 months ago
@cichlidiot94 I sure was! The ironic thing is even tho I was the lowest 1% at the beginning, I ended up in the top 10% at the end. Just another reason why SAT scores shouldn't leave you hopeless; they are not indicative of your true ability.
MsVictoriaShantrell 3 months ago
with your scores...specifically what WERE your ec's/grades? basically, what did you do to get in? I mean of course aa helped but there must have been something else...
snotberg123 3 months ago
@snotberg123 well, as I've said in other responses, my cum gpa was 4.3 and my entire senior yr I had a 4.75 (AP + college courses raised my gpa). I had began taking courses at the local college during my jr yr to pass time and continued that during as a sr. I founded several clubs on campus, participant in national academic competitions, etc. So I was not the average student by far; I just didn't do standardized test very well (particularly writing and English).
MsVictoriaShantrell 3 months ago
@MsVictoriaShantrell considering you speak of WEIGHTED gpa and assuming that AP classes counted as 5.0 while honors were 4.5 as it is at my school...I'm assuming that you had over 12-15 B's? and how did you have time to take courses at a local college or even let you into this "local college"? I'm asking this because I've been doing pretty badly in school (sophmore in h.s.) as I've been getting some B's while killing myself by going to school early for a class and skipping lunch for a class
snotberg123 3 months ago
@MsVictoriaShantrell like basically I made a schedule that would allow me to take 4 AP's as a sophmore (generally I'd only be able to take 3) in that I gave up lunch and I paid $300 for a class before school in order to raise my rank and gpa (I take the highest courses possible but there's so much comopetition) but it kinda backfired since now I'm virtually dying...and also I have a local college here but I doubt they'd let me go and I'm working towards qualifying for AIME or maybe ARML
snotberg123 3 months ago
@snotberg123 chill out! Don't kill urself with work. It's about finding balance and being healthy- physically, mentally, and emotionally. If you end up getting some Bs and not going to the #1 school in the world, life will still be okay. Yes, prepare for the future; but, also live for the now. Right now, you're no more than 16 yrs old; enjoy going out with your friends, partying, watching tv, and things that 15 yrs old do. Don't stress about getting into a top ranking school.
MsVictoriaShantrell 3 months ago
@snotberg123 Just handle your business and live life. All that extra stuff like missing lunch for a class or paying $300 for a class is not necessary. At the end of the day, if I were an admission counselor and I saw a student who seemed to be overdoing it with classes and not paying attention to his/her mental/emotional/social health, I wouldn't admit them because they wouldn't seem like they'll be able to survive in this high-stressed atmosphere.
MsVictoriaShantrell 3 months ago
@snotberg123 Surviving is not merely doing well in courses and getting A's. Surviving college is graduating with a greater sense of self, a greater sense of one's role in our social world, a greater understanding of how he/she can contribute positively to our society, the ability to think clearly, the ability to interact with others in an effective manner, and a getting a degree. No great institution wants students who can only make the grade. Remember that.
MsVictoriaShantrell 3 months ago
@snotberg123 so perhaps aa did assist, but I think that I was pretty well qualified even if I wasn't Black. Plus my essays were probably what really set me apart from other applicants. I invite you to check them out at my website.
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MsVictoriaShantrell 3 months ago
Did you have an alumni interview in the area you lived in?
LincolnScott1 3 months ago
@LincolnScott1 to my knowledge, Stanford didn't do interviews at that time (or at least I did not have one)
MsVictoriaShantrell 3 months ago
wow this is really encouraging. i always feel like the only piece i'm missing in my Application to the ivy leagues/equivalents is my standarized test scores. thanks so much! :)
whatitdosoyo 4 months ago
Thank you iam an african mal and i thought i had no chance with my sat scores but because of you i will give it a go and see what happens
THEONETHEONLYEM21 4 months ago 2
if you get an 1800 on the SAT and want to go to stanford... take it again.
agray220 4 months ago 5
People talk about affirmative action as though the recipient isn't required to put any work into earning the degree! If she wasn't capable of handling the curriculum she would not of been able to graduate with 2 degrees!
lindseythelush 4 months ago
@ChrissyCuppycakes @DistortedV12 Affirmative Action most certainly does take place at private schools (it actually doesn't exist in CA public schools, however). And regardless of if I got in off of AA or not, all I'm going to say is this woman right here got two fucking degrees and I'm debt-free bitches! lol...
MsVictoriaShantrell 4 months ago 20
@MsVictoriaShantrell And yet you still speak this ghetto?
TheOuroboros21 3 months ago 7
@TheOuroboros21 you consider it ghetto, I consider it AAVE. And yes, I still speak it. Who knew it was possible to go to an elite institution and retain your original tongue, right?
MsVictoriaShantrell 3 months ago
@MsVictoriaShantrell LoL, Ebonics. In other words, even as other blacks would say, you speak ghetto. Hah :p
TheOuroboros21 3 months ago
@MsVictoriaShantrell or your original ignorance...
moorecz1 3 months ago
Respond to this video... Wow. This girl got in with a 1500 SAT?! I couldn't get in with my 2250 SAT...maybe it's because I'm white. Actually I KNOW it's because I'm white. You may ask how the FUCK does a person that scores below average in the national percentile get into one of the top universities in the world? This is a perfect example of the reverse racism known as affirmative action.
moorecz1 3 months ago 2
@moorecz1 Maybe schools got a whiff of your gnarly attitude and decided they didn't want that infecting the kids at their campus.
serena1232 2 months ago
@TheOuroboros21 i've interacted, inside and outside of class, with many students who "speak ghetto." in class, they sound just like anyone else. outside, they're more willing to be themselves and "speak ghetto." look up the work of john rickford, a certified-badass professor at stanford, who argues that most black people in the US are actually bilingual, speaking both standard american english (a la ABC news) and african american vernacular english (AAVE).
nyuckkyle 2 weeks ago
@MsVictoriaShantrell this girl is probably debt-free too. unlike at the school you're graduating from, stanford's financial aid policy is loan-free - stanford replaced loans with grants, and if you make under $60k it's free; under $100k it's free tuition; and under $200k it's significantly reduced tuition. don't assume that prestigious school = expensive and puts you in debt. that isn't the case at stanford where 80% of the students are on some form of financial aid.
nyuckkyle 2 weeks ago
@nyuckkyle oops, clicked on the wrong comment to reply to, but y'all get the point :)
nyuckkyle 2 weeks ago
If my GPA is off by a couple points that are required for the admission, do you know if I still have a chance to get in?
mlope92805 4 months ago
@mlope92805 Stanford looks at the total person and does not have a GPA or SAT cap or floor to my knowledge. So I say if this is where you want to be give your all in all aspects of the application and apply. And remember to not let the admission decision be a source of your validation! You are brilliant and will continue to be brilliant no matter where you go!
MsVictoriaShantrell 4 months ago
@MsVictoriaShantrell Thank you! You don't know how much you have helped me, not only did you give me hope but you have also changed my way of thinking in case I don't make it in. Thank you once again and thank you for posting this video. =)
mlope92805 4 months ago
Two words "Affirmative Action"
DistortedV12 4 months ago
I LOVE you ! :D
jewlieable 5 months ago
What is your e-mail id ?
rushitsharma1 5 months ago
you're really pretty!
JepMcFly 5 months ago
Unfortunately, if you're either white or especially Asian there's almost no chance of getting into Stanford with sats low as 1800 even if everything else on your application is good. Like TheHarvardMIT said, it's all affirmative action. If you're black, hispanic, native american or pacific islander you can get into a college like stanford with literally half the qualifications as a chinese person. So yeah..take advantage of it if you can.
ezlorulz 5 months ago 2
did you take ap exams , if so what did you make ?
BrittanyTheGenius 7 months ago
@BrittanyTheGenius Apush 4 Calc 4 Lit 2 (I took Gov but didn't take the test bc I already had took US gov at a college so didn't need the credit)
MsVictoriaShantrell 7 months ago
@MsVictoriaShantrell im going to the 11th grade and ive gotten 2s on all the ap exams ive taken ( ap human geo & apwh) but im not gonna let that get me down . & thanks for the fast reply
BrittanyTheGenius 7 months ago
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@BrittanyTheGenius - you have no fucking chance
crazyhillbillies 6 months ago
@MsVictoriaShantrell Hey iam an african american male and i feel like i would really fit in at stanford but my sats are low i was wondring if you can look over my essays and read over them for me. THank you
THEONETHEONLYEM21 4 months ago
Affirmative Action allows for less qualified african americans and hispanics to attend a good college.
TheHarvardMIT 8 months ago 34
@TheHarvardMIT true. as an asian, this AA bs makes me sick.
chillipeanuts 5 months ago 2
@TheHarvardMIT Just know Black excellence.
BkSenko24 5 months ago
@TheHarvardMIT yeah and it takes away the chances of hard working asians
snotberg123 3 months ago
@TheHarvardMIT that shit amazes me, the fact that we have had to put up with shit for 200 years, and this one little thing that works to our advantage sends you into this outrage that's crazy fuck that shit get a fucking life and stop being so spoiled. We were not even allowed to go to college until like 50 years ago...for Christ sake they had to bring the national guard in to let a little black girl to to school. Cry me a rive and don't call me african America i have never even been to Africa.
scsunsfan 2 months ago 2
@TheHarvardMIT fuck you
guitarherochick123 2 months ago
Inspirational. I'll be considered as a prospective international student. My grades are good as well as my participation in sports and community service. All that I do is fueled by my intuitive capacity to learn and affect the world in a positive light. I've done my research and i'm awe-inspired by the phenomenal people who attended and currently attend and the impacts made. Stanford University seems to be the right fit. I too want to leave an indelible mark on our global community!
robbiethedream 9 months ago 2
@robbiethedream Thank you and good luck!
MsVictoriaShantrell 9 months ago
You were so inspiring to me! Thank you for this video :)
jackrhennessy1 9 months ago 3
@jackrhennessy1 Thank you! I'm glad to offer some inspiration..
MsVictoriaShantrell 9 months ago
Thank you so much for the advice~~~ I love ur videos^o^ you are such a good inspiration for me!
jynsuh 10 months ago
Jesus Christ I didn't know Stanford accepted blacks with <1700
joejacksonriley 1 year ago
Respond to this video... I wouldn't be surprised to find that the only students at Stanford with SAT scores <1700 are black haha
moorecz1 3 months ago
Be real. If you get an 1800 you better have one hell of an application otherwise.
joejacksonriley 1 year ago
@joejacksonriley Well, I'm not going to lie and say that I didn't have a good application. I graduated with a 4.75 gpa, I just didn't have good SAT scores but beyond that, I was a helluva candidate.
MsVictoriaShantrell 1 year ago
@MsVictoriaShantrell And you obviously lacked any intellectual potential whatsoever. The SAT measures a student's aptitude meaning how successful you will most likely be in college. I'm guessing you got your degrees in some bullshit departments where work ethic took precedence over intelligence, like African-American Studies and English.
moorecz1 3 months ago
@moorecz1 You are such an ignorant jerk. I shouldn't even be taking the time to respond to you .I hope when you get rejected to your schools that you take the time to re-evaluate your concept of what success means. She's in the top 10% of her class at Stanford. You want to tell her she has no intellectual potential?
SATs cannot be said with certainty to measure anything beyond your ability to take a test. If you think success in college is defined within the parameters of a test, you've got a
serena1232 2 months ago
huge wake up call in the future. Stop being so bitter over a rejection, celebrate the fact that there are good people trying to make positive things happen in the world, and go be one of those people.
serena1232 2 months ago
@MsVictoriaShantrell 4.75 O_O
serena1232 2 months ago
You inspired me. Now I'm gonna go do my AP Bio and pray for my acceptance letter. Also congrats on graduating with honors, Dean's list, etc. You seem very confident and know where you're going! :)
chichilista 1 year ago
@chichilista good luck!
MsVictoriaShantrell 1 year ago
However, I went to a TOP state university and graduated magna cum laude this past May. Now, I am in grad school, and I'm not paying a dime! So even if our children don't get into ivy leagues, they still have bright futures. =]
Liyahbeat 1 year ago
@Liyahbeat congrats! Proud of u!
MsVictoriaShantrell 1 year ago
Great message to the incoming college students. I took the SAT in 05, when the highest possible score was only 1600, and got a 980. I balled my eyes out b/c I went to a gifted h.s. where majority of my peers got >1200 or at least cracked 1000. I thought it was the end of the world and wanted to retake it. But, I'm glad numerous people (including my parents) talked me out of it and shifted attention to my other credentials. I got into Columbia, but didn't go b/c of $. Cnt'd --->
Liyahbeat 1 year ago
deezam lady you are a vision such natural black beauty wow smart too!!
dtowntexg 1 year ago 2
Justin wondering, what extracurricular did you join? Yes, grades are not important and its truly the person you are that allows you get in. But, what was it that YOU did? What was it that showed you were not lazy? What did you put in your essay? What let the Stanford administration know that you have the potential to make a difference in our world? -A Freshman in Highschool
vhusu12 1 year ago
@vhusu12 Well I started a poetry organization that put on open mics at local coffee shops and a semiannual literary mag, I also started BSU at my school and I worked. But I also went to a community college while I was in hs, I had a cumm gpa of 4.3 and I maintained a 4.75 my entire senior year (AP classes gave me the bump). I moved around a lot and for the last 1.5 yrs of hs I traveled 60 miles every day to school (and 60 miles back).
MsVictoriaShantrell 1 year ago
@vhusu12 A lot of stuff happened in my life that could have sidetracked me from doing well in school but I stayed focus on my future.
MsVictoriaShantrell 1 year ago
@MsVictoriaShantrell
Wow. That is amazing. So, to get into a prestigious school like Standford, do you recommend starting something, doing something big? Well, let me ask this, how did you start off? Before you even started your poetry organization... what did you do, how did you get there? As a Freshman... what things did you do?
vhusu12 1 year ago
@vhusu12 Well, I don't necessarily recommend that you start something or do something big; what I do recommend is that you be honest with yourself about what you enjoy or what you're passionate about and commit to it. I def. know lots of ppl who didn't start orgs or do something big in hs and attend Stanford. But they showed commitment to something beyond classwork (you gotta have a balance). Some of them were dancers, artists, or community service enthusiast; there's no one path..
MsVictoriaShantrell 1 year ago
@vhusu12 Before I started the poetry org, I sat around without a lot of fear and doubt. I had wanted to start the club when I first started hs- I always loved poetry- but I was too afraid that no one would join. So for 2 years I had an idea but allowed fear of failure keep me from making it reality. But when I switched schools jr yr, I said "fuck it" and went for it. And the crazy thing is it was wildly successful! We had the fire marshall come to one event bc it was so packed!
MsVictoriaShantrell 1 year ago
@vhusu12 So my advice to u as a frshmn is to learn how to say "fuck it" and do you. My biggest regret was not having the courage to say fuck it before I did. The first steps to making things happen is saying "fucking it; I'ma do it" and do then do it. But that only works for when it's something that you're really passionate about bc then you won't be too preoccupied by its "success"; success for you will be the fact that you followed that inside voice.
MsVictoriaShantrell 1 year ago
@MsVictoriaShantrell
Thank you! Also, congrats on your poem club, thats amazing how it turned out to be so packed! Well, im going make sure to follow through with a certain passion, and to say "fuck it". Honesty, I have fear in me also, I better let it out as soon as possible. Thank you for the advice, and I might be having a few more questions in the future. Probably when I hit AP... (Next Year)
vhusu12 1 year ago
@vhusu12 No problem! feel free to hit me up whenever :).. and as for the fear, even the most fearless experience fear; they just don't allow that fear to keep them from moving forward. Learn to trust that inner voice inside and say fuck it! Also, don't be afraid to change. Your passions might change and as long as you're listening to that inner voice and not external ideas about who you're supposed to be, that change is growth... and growth is beautiful.. growth is living.. Take care!
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MsVictoriaShantrell 1 year ago
@vhusu12 correction *I sat around with a lot of fear and doubt (in the previous msg I said "without' when I meant "with")
MsVictoriaShantrell 1 year ago
If you don't mind me asking, how did you pay for your Stanford education? How much is it a year to attend Stanford?
MrBric12 1 year ago
@MrBric12 It cost about $60k/yr to go to Stanford (tuition, room/board, books, etc). I do not pay for my education. Being poor sucked as kid, but as an adult in college (at a wealthy private institution), I came up. lol..
MsVictoriaShantrell 1 year ago