It is tiring that there always has to be the "noble white savior" in ANY story that deals with racial and ethnic relations..... HOWEVER, the ugly reality is the studios/producers will not give any funding to any film that doesn't have the "noble white savior" because IN THEIR VIEW, no white character = no box office.
Someday it will change but for now we're stuck with this.
People who aren't shore about seeing this movie, don't. Instead go get the original mini series Roots. 50 minutes in I couldn't handle the poor acting by most of the white women and how they wouldn't even say the N word. Now I know it's PG-13 but, that's the problem with the movie. It doesn't want to afend anyone but if you wan't to make a great movie about this subject matter you have to be athintic. Roots was very serious but also had a bunch of humor in it and it all worked extremely well.
I decided to read the book before seeing the movie. The book explains each person's POV clearly on why they would participate in the book, the movie doesn't make that clear. With the changes from book-to-movie, ite misses the tension and fear of the maids who a risked their lives to tell their story and the major issue, race. What made me really not like movie is the complete change of the of Skeeter's maid Constantine, whose plight is the crux of the book. Read book, skip movie.
Thank you Alonso...the only way white audiences can stomach a pre-civil rights movement America is if its re-written so that a white person is the hero.
you can't make a safe, light movie about slavery, this movie does it which intrinsicaly makes it a failure. this movie is a disgrace for all the people that suffered and were discriminated against during that period. Go Alonso !
Best movie of the year!!!!!!!!! This deserves Best Actress nomination Emma Stone. Best Supporting Actress Nomination Viola Davis. Best Supporting Actress nomination Octvia Spencer. Octvia takes the pie.
Alonso Duralde is 100% right. What part of the Ku Klux Klan being on your house and killing your family makes the terror threat worth telling your story to some barely legal girl?
What a lot of you people are saying about this movie just proves that people downplay what blacks have had to go through in this country. I mean to not even acknowledge it is ignorant and bigoted. And no ones telling white people to feel guilty about anything. But obviously you do. Or else you wouldn't keep referring to "white guilt". Guilt is self-inflicting. No one can MAKE you feel guilty but you. Remember that.
@dramatish Movies are art not anything else it doesn't have to be historical fiction or non-fiction its the past so you weren't there now move the fuck on
@TheMartinLane dumbest comment in youtube-history.. YES it has to be historical correct .they show the assassination of kennedy,the march on washington in the movie and other historical landmarks of that time.SO YES IT HAS TO BE HISTORICAL CORRECT..you can have a fictional story in a real historical context.BUT STILL THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT HAS TO BE ACCURATE...PERIOD
@TheMartinLane Oh So obviously transformers 3 has to be historically correct because it has the moon landing? Fucking idiot your idea of a movie removes all art and relies strictly on fact? Truth is it "HAS TO BE" is bullshit its a movie I repeat a movie PS People use caps when there argument is lacking so before you start throwing stones with lack of intelligence in a comment I suppose you take a look in the damn mirror... "period" haha jackass
@dramatish Oh So obviously transformers 3 has to be historically correct because it has the moon landing? Fucking idiot your idea of a movie removes all art and relies strictly on fact? Truth is it "HAS TO BE" is bullshit its a movie I repeat a movie PS People use caps when there argument is lacking so before you start throwing stones with lack of intelligence in a comment I suppose you take a look in the damn mirror... "period" haha jackass
@TheMartinLane It needs to be somewhat accurate, esp. if it's based in a time period that is a historically painful part of history. A movie about landing on the moon obviously has no need to be historically or scientifically accurate. The event in the movie doesn't have to tell Armstrong's story; it can be a fictional story of a dog orbitign the moon but Black ppl, for the most part aren't going to wink at talented ppl out to make a buck who don't find their history worth telling accurately.
@R1D2S3 so your comment doenst even matter ..what kind of ignorant shit is that ..watch the movie if you dont like then you can critique, otherwise its just bullshit...sorry
@dramatish yes it does matter...I'm not going to give my money to this happy nigga bullshit no more if I don't want to...fu-k Ho-llywood...They want give a black director money to make a real movie about slavery,but they let a white director like Quentin Tarantino to do one...Now why is that?
@R1D2S3 you should do some research first before you comment.django unleashed is not about slavery but more a love-story playing at the time of slavery
@MizAlexandria well thank you for you coherent response but I just find how people are disliking it solely on histoical inaccurey is profoundly stupid when nobody should relie on movies for a grounded relizism last time I checked Titanic was a wildly loved movie while most of it was fabricated without basis.. Like it dislike it I haven't even seen the movie I just find this line of critisism dumb
Also, Alonso's review is totally crap. Even though I thought the movie would end multiple times, I was pleasantly surprised when it continued. The threat of writing down the lives of black women was dealt with, albeit in a manner some will consider unrealistic, by giving the "queeen bee" an incentive to spread the notion that the books based on another town (and the black servants don't go around telling whites that they wrote the book).
@baumbart99 Tell me, do you think throwing a bunch of hissy fit labels at someone is anything near a friggin argument? The "redhead" acknowledged that the film "toned down" some of the uglier parts of 1960s Deep South and that charaacter-dialogue was the primary reason to like it.
Stupid ass movie. Same old cliche story about Negros struggling in the racist south. Boo! Conan and Fright Night are better movies and shouldve taken the number one spot.
Anyone else wish they would revisit already released movies to give us their opinions? It may end up encouraging people to watch movies they missed out on... I'm interested to hear their take on Blade Runner, Fight Club, Memento, V for Vendetta, and I, Robot.
Alonzo its fiction! Fucking fiction not a documentary all you motherfuckers who are treating it like a documentary should go fuck themselves I am talking to you @missamericanpie1@modap3000 @healthypig1423
@TheMartinLane Just because its fiction doesn't mean that people have to some how like it. For a drama (fiction) movie there still has to be believability factor and the context of the movie just wasn't realistic based on the time period.
I dunno Alonzo its hard to take you too seriously after giving this movie a 4.5 and the glee movie 8.5. Especially after admitting this movie had very good acting while the glee movie was missing one of its best characters.
RESPECT ALONSO. A poor film. I was disgusted by the lack of emphasis of the danger faced by these women. Not only did they face losing their livelihoods but their lives. The ease which the black women participated in the scheme with a "damn the consequences" attitude misrepresents the time and the place (Mississippi) this film supposed took place.The black women in this film will of course be rewarded by the Academy for participating in this farce. SMH
@madax132 Why would anyone who isn't white feel good about this movie? Who feels good watching how their ancestors had nothing and were too helpless to change it (which isn't true)? That they needed a some white chick to fight for them (when in actuality, white women didn't do shit).
@urkelette A person who sees a person helping another person instead of a white women helping a black person. Also "white women didn't do shit" is a pretty big generalization considering that white women as well as men marched in civil rights and participated in the underground railroad. You saying all whites at the time were bad people is like me saying that all black people are thieves and equally ridiculous. Before you take that last part out of context I obviously don't think that it's a
@madax132 White women (and white people in general) are waaaaaaay overrepresented in movies and history books in the fight for african-american freedom (incuding their part in the underground railroad). This re-written history is responsible for credit being removed from the rightful people who died for the cause. If you can't see why a perpetuation of that lie doesn't make people feel good, thats your fault.
@urkelette What examples do you have as evidence that whites are over represented in history books in civil rights? You're taking a film too seriously, it's meant to be a feel good story not re write history. This is showing a story about a person who has nothing to gain doing what's right. Do you think that saving private ryan was arguing that world war 2 was centered around private ryan?
@madax132 I gave you an example-white involvement in the underground railroad is overrepresented in...well, any book illustrating more white abolitionists than black (because there were far more black abolitionists). Media affects how people perceive each other, which is why I'm taking this seriously. I'm not asking you to stop feeling good (though yeah, you should) I'm explaining why movies like this aren't going to leave African Americans jumping for joy.
@urkelette You're an idiot, first of all you haven't seen the movie. You need to give an actual example of the thing you say is happening in popular culture, you can't just say it's there because it is. If you actually say the movie you'd know that the black characters are the leads and are self sufficient and well realized. If you can't even give a few examples then you're only trying to play the victim which you are, watch the fucking movie before you criticize it and stop being an idiot.
@madax132 Um, what makes you think I haven't seen the movie? If you want me to hold you hand through this, you can watch the overgeneralization of white involvement in movies like roots, or literally any history book you'd find in a midwestern school district. It also looks like you're assuming what my race is here, so who is the racist, now? Whatever, I'm talking to a person who doesn't particularly care about facts, anyway.
@urkelette You haven't seen the movie because you don't understand that the black people in it are the main characters and are fleshed out as well as self sufficient. You're trying to make a problem that isn't there, there are no text books currently out or movies that claim whites played a larger part than they did in civil rights. You're name is Urkelette, steve Urkel is a famous black character and the suffix elette would indicate female. If you aren't a black female get a new user name.
@urkelette it's really pretty sad that you don't see why I think it was a feel good movie, it's about a person helping another, I DON'T CARE WHAT THE SKIN COLOR OF THE PERSON IS, THERE I SPELLED IT OUT FOR YOU. That was the point I was trying to get across but you're such a dense racist idiot that you couldn't see it.
This movie is garbage. It is a movie that can only possibly be enjoyed by people so far detached from the realities of that time period. Matt nailed it.
The book and movie certainly didn't portray Skeeter as the white savior. I honestly don't know what movie Alonso watched if that's what he thinks. The black characters are the leads--they're completely self-sufficient, well-realized, and have goals & dreams of their own. In the book, it's very clear the amount of danger the maids were in. Perhaps that wasn't as clear in the movie, but I still think Alonso's criticisms were largely unfounded. I think he went in to the movie with judgements
Alonso simply cannot allow the movie to be the self-contained reality that it intends to be. The movie and presumably the book, is about a small town, it involves specific people -- it's not unlike tons of stories (Field of Dreams springs to mind) that could never have happened, but the author has invented a tale. Live with it, deal with it, but PLEASE quit belly-aching about it. Jeez.
Only people who don't know the history and realities of those times would tolerate this film. "Hilarity ensues..."? In the Deep South KKK Jim Crow cross burning lynching Mississippi?
It was an excellent interview in the sense that I thoroughly understand everyone's point of view.
I criticized Alonzo for (repeatedly) monopolizing airtime in previous interviews. I appreciate that he afforded enough time to opinions contrary to his in this interview so that I could come away from it with a broader perspective.
That said, in the gradient between his opinion and Christy's and Grae's, mine is probably closer to his this time (although not quite to the same extent of disbelief).
Alonso was totally white...i mean right. Two words to describe this movie, white guilt. Just like Avatar, the great white hero has to come and save the minorities. Gag me with a spoon.
ALSONO IS WRONG! I can't believe their are so much uneducated, ignorant people here! Why is it so wrong that a WHITE person helped black people find empowerment? How would this story make any sense if a black women published the book? Who would publish it? How would be have been educated? Maids WERE NOT educated back then, ONLY Aibleen could write (if you read the book you would know!). SCHINDLER'S LIST WAS BASED A FCUKING TRUE STORY! DO YOU REALLY THINK THE JEWS WERE NOT SAVED BY OTHER RACES?
@immuntocrap2 Many jewish and white men and women helped blacks achieve rights and freedom! SOME EVEN DIED WITH THEM! I don't understand why people can not comprehend this! I am black and I don't feel ashamed that another race helped mine! ALL IMPOVERISHED AND CONTROLLED GROUP NEEDED HELP FROM AN OUTSIDER! The little guy never wins unless a big guy helps lead the way!
@immuntocrap2 Yeah ! the jews run everything, i'm pretty sure the next step of the antisemitic group that see everything trough the prism of a jewish conspiracy will be to say that the jews actually run GOD !
@Sheeeeeenful: If I'm anti-semitic for saying that the Jews ran the Civil Rights 'Movement' (which is actually true you dummy), does that mean that you're anti-black by saying that the blacks did?
@dameagatha100 your an idiot. There really is a book called "the help" but the book is a work of fiction you moron. Of course this didn't really happen.
Gotta love how the 2 white ladies (one of them Lemire, one of the worst critics out there) see no problem with getting another "white savior" movie which Hollywood loves making all the time.
This is a cliche that greatly insults nonwhites as it's done again and again. Hollywood loves movies that involves a white lead that "saves" nonwhites that otherwise couldn't do it themselves. It happens all the time and I am sick of it. Recent examples are The Blind Side and even James Cameron's Avatar.
You idiot! This whole movie is a true story there is really a book about a called the Help and all this really happened in Jackson Missipi! Idiot Alonso!
Alonso SUCKS!!!! This movie represents how one person can think ahead and not be stupid enough to think african americans are lower that them and how one person can make a differance.
Schindler's List was based on true events and even if it wasn't to even suggest that people relate to it only because of the non-minority hero is just plain stupid.
i don't know. I'm pretty sensitive and sometimes suspicious about plots where a white person is helping a group or community of minorities who are in a tough spot. Think about thouse movies with the white teacher in the ghetto. However, the book doesn't feel that way at all. The heroines are "the help"; the maids are putting themselves in danger big time. Plus, their situation was so oppressing that they needed a white person with access to a platform for their stories.
Going to see this tonight! Read the book, which was amazing! Since I haven't seen the movie yet, I can't say if Alonso is just missing it... but in the book, there was a fine undertone of danger throughout... you were always worried about what could happen to these women. I hope they capture that in the movie. It sounds like they may have from other reviews.
That's a weird analogy since this movies does not depict a white women as the champion of the civil rights movement at all. Watch the movie or read the book, then you can criticize it.
If you want to know anything that is an accurate depiction of the terrible things that happened during that time. You should rather see Malcolm X. I'm pretty sure this movie is going to draw dithyramb from everywhere and have a great exposure and publicity but the movie that i mentionned Malcolm X never drew any significant attention from the media. "The Help" it's called, rather ironic. When white people helped the movement they were killed like like andrew goodman and james chaney.
This movie is disgusting.It only serve the purpose of making white people feeling good about the dreadful act commited in the civil right era.It is not even historically accurate,nearly 3500 African Americans were lynched in the United States between 1882 and 1968 (conservative estimates) i'm sure they make no mention of that in the movie.It is dangerous to make that kind of movie because it make people question the authenticity of the rage of the civil right movement. This movie is a disgace.
"nearly 3500 African Americans were lynched in the United States between 1882 and 1968 (conservative estimates) i'm sure they make no mention of that in the movie"
Why would they? The movie isn't about that.
"It is dangerous to make that kind of movie because it make people question the authenticity of the rage of the civil right movement."
So all movies about the civil rights movement have to be super serious and depict white people as evil. They can't have a light film about it?
@thehoffmanapprentice Would you make light 9/11? How about the holocaust? These are time periods when people suffered. To make light of it would be like spitting on the graves of every soul lost during it. While I understand where you are coming from, you have to have respect for them. It's not a matter of making them whites evil, even though what was done by them during that time period is far from justifiable. It's a matter of showing it for what it was. History should never be sugar-coated.
Even if the movie isn't about creating the most accurate depiction of what actually happened during that time, it's very important to establish accurate context of the times...
It's not about making white people look evil, it's about saying what happened
you can't have a "light" film about holocaust, slavery, (not that i'm making any kind of competition of dreadfulness between these things). Because they are not light subjects....
@Kilzoful THIS IS NOT ABOUT SLAVERY! It is about the HELP! THE HELP! In that time period many black people were working to raise their families, just because many black Americans were involved in civil rights DOES NOT mean ALL blacks were willing to leave their job and join in all at once or at all! This movie is only for the help and shows how far we have come from those days. It's a movie based about REAL people and REAL LIFE! Not everyone was as brave as Martin Luther King!~
@Kilzoful Why would I feel good or bad about something that has nothing to do with me? I don't have any family who committed violence against black people. I don't know anyone who did and I certainly haven't. How does this movie belittle the civil rights movement? It shows plenty of bad white people but chooses to show the good as well as contrary to your popular opinion there were many whites with nothing to gain that were beaten and even killed in civil rights.
@madax132 The first part of your answer is actually a big cliché that many people use (generally conservative) to deligitimize the consequences of that period : affirmative action in particular. Maybe you didn't do anything wrong but your ancestors did and you should pay the price of that. Like our children would have to pay the price of our generation's inaction towards global warning maybe it's unfair but that's how it works.
@Kilzoful Sorry but No one I knew owned slaves and all of my family fought on the north side of the civil war. I'm a liberal but like I said I don't feel bad for something I didn't do and I'd seriously slap the shit out of you for saying my family has done anything in the past to the effect of owning slaves or violence against black people. There are racists like you on one side and white supremacists on the other and at this rate no one is going to let the past be the past and move on.
@madax132 you are not direcly addressing my argument, you're making the same exact point as before which leads me to believe that you have been defeated.
Ohhh i was wating for that charge: racist. I rest y case, that's what people treat you of when they don't have anything else to say
@Kilzoful Um. . no, you didn't respond to my argument whatsoever. All you said it that because I'm the same skin color as some people who did something to your family in past generations that I should feel guilty because of my skin color. SO that's racist but no the reason I called you racist was because you made a blanket statement about the entire white race when it comes to movies. You're a small minded man who can't see past color, good day sir.
@madax132 As for the second part as somebody said earlier you can't make a feel good, safe movie about the civil right era. it akes it intrinsicaly a failure and i mentionned andrew goodman and james chaney, that's what happened to white people who helped, they were killed.
"As for the second part as somebody said earlier you can't make a feel good, safe movie about C.R era."I assume you were refuring to me, anyway I wasn't going to respond but I just can't help it now. Anyway to make a safe feel good movie about the MLK assasination, or bombings at black churches is wrong. However there is nothing wrong about making a light movie on the subject manner of racism, and having it take place during the C.R. time period. Its been done before, by "Hairspare" with no prob
White people "didn't help in the civil rights movement sometimes." Many whites joined the Freedom Riders into the South. Catholic Priests organized and marched with Civil Rights leaders, and JFK took huge political risk by putting Federal troops into the South.
@dmaradona10 sorry but black people didnt overcome that era because of white peole but despite white people. and yes there were occasionally white people who helped but they were no factor considering the big picture of struggle african americans went through
LETS JUST BE REAL FOR A MINUTE.
AFRICAN AMERICANS FOUGHT FOR THEIR OWN RIGHTS...point blank period
@dramatish I didn't say black people overcame because of white people. The word "occasionally" that you use underscores the fact that whites participated in and risked life and limb for blacks in the South to over come segregation. This diminishment is a curious re-write of Civil Rights history.
@dmaradona10 why diminishment.THATS THE REALITY.let me put this way: even with not one single white helping, the course of the history wouldnt have changed.it was irrelevant for the big picture.THATS A FACT
so why hollywood has always HAS to make those movies when it was by faaaaaaaaaaaar not the norm.
considering how little that was its just unproportionally how many movies are about some whites helping some minorities in contraste to minorities helpng themself.
@dramatish Right...no white people had a role in integration. LBJ a Texan, signing the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Act of 1965, didn't effect the course of history. If one single white person didn't help? Your views are obviously slanted You can keep stating that white people's actions didn't play are role in the Civil Rights movement, however, that's not the true history of the Civil Rights movement. Most Hollywood films are always the standard Remember the Titans type storyline.
@dmaradona10 HAHAHA YOU ARE MAKING ME LAUGH.. white people were and still are the etablishment . they were not the reason for the change but BECAUSE OF THEIR POSITION HAD TO SIGN DOCUMENTS IN FAVOR OF BLACK PEOPLE ( which some did again their own beliefs)
they did so becausE at the end of the day the pressure black civil right movement put on society was too big.THEY MADE SOCIETY CHANGE.SOCIETY DIDNT CHANGE by ITSLEF:::FACT
maybe nothing would have change till this days if they did not fight:
Figured the female critics would like the movie.
aquapendulum 1 week ago
this guy is a asshole. the movie was good.
BRm2008 2 weeks ago
Alonso is so right.
JozieLeePro 3 weeks ago 2
It is tiring that there always has to be the "noble white savior" in ANY story that deals with racial and ethnic relations..... HOWEVER, the ugly reality is the studios/producers will not give any funding to any film that doesn't have the "noble white savior" because IN THEIR VIEW, no white character = no box office.
Someday it will change but for now we're stuck with this.
lukebccb 3 weeks ago
People who aren't shore about seeing this movie, don't. Instead go get the original mini series Roots. 50 minutes in I couldn't handle the poor acting by most of the white women and how they wouldn't even say the N word. Now I know it's PG-13 but, that's the problem with the movie. It doesn't want to afend anyone but if you wan't to make a great movie about this subject matter you have to be athintic. Roots was very serious but also had a bunch of humor in it and it all worked extremely well.
RdVirus777 1 month ago in playlist More videos from whattheflickshow
Alonso is correct. I liked the movie (better than I liked the book) but it glossed over the true horror of the time.
ThePhoenixAvalon 1 month ago
Eat my shit.
sycotic51 2 months ago in playlist More videos from whattheflickshow
Alonso, I'm not certain if I spelled your name correctly, I apologize. But I have to say what a excellent review you gave. Great perspective.
Garrett2027 2 months ago
I decided to read the book before seeing the movie. The book explains each person's POV clearly on why they would participate in the book, the movie doesn't make that clear. With the changes from book-to-movie, ite misses the tension and fear of the maids who a risked their lives to tell their story and the major issue, race. What made me really not like movie is the complete change of the of Skeeter's maid Constantine, whose plight is the crux of the book. Read book, skip movie.
killervirgo 2 months ago
grace is pretty cool..I'd like to ha a friends like her.
xteric1 3 months ago
Thank you Alonso...the only way white audiences can stomach a pre-civil rights movement America is if its re-written so that a white person is the hero.
urkelette 4 months ago
that was emma stone? didnt even recognize her...lol
MrTWISTEDHUMORable 4 months ago
That guy always gets really offended and goes off on rants, lol
BitchesCallMeTFree 4 months ago
you can't make a safe, light movie about slavery, this movie does it which intrinsicaly makes it a failure. this movie is a disgrace for all the people that suffered and were discriminated against during that period. Go Alonso !
Sheeeeeenful 5 months ago
I cried a little at the end.
captcrais101 5 months ago
Best movie of the year!!!!!!!!! This deserves Best Actress nomination Emma Stone. Best Supporting Actress Nomination Viola Davis. Best Supporting Actress nomination Octvia Spencer. Octvia takes the pie.
captcrais101 5 months ago
Alonso Duralde is 100% right. What part of the Ku Klux Klan being on your house and killing your family makes the terror threat worth telling your story to some barely legal girl?
It is a crappy Hollywood premise.
GennaSt 5 months ago in playlist More videos from whattheflickshow
Alonso, please shut the hell up.
witch26071 5 months ago
What a lot of you people are saying about this movie just proves that people downplay what blacks have had to go through in this country. I mean to not even acknowledge it is ignorant and bigoted. And no ones telling white people to feel guilty about anything. But obviously you do. Or else you wouldn't keep referring to "white guilt". Guilt is self-inflicting. No one can MAKE you feel guilty but you. Remember that.
415jdookie 5 months ago 9
@dramatish Movies are art not anything else it doesn't have to be historical fiction or non-fiction its the past so you weren't there now move the fuck on
TheMartinLane 5 months ago
@TheMartinLane dumbest comment in youtube-history.. YES it has to be historical correct .they show the assassination of kennedy,the march on washington in the movie and other historical landmarks of that time.SO YES IT HAS TO BE HISTORICAL CORRECT..you can have a fictional story in a real historical context.BUT STILL THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT HAS TO BE ACCURATE...PERIOD
dramatish 5 months ago
@TheMartinLane Oh So obviously transformers 3 has to be historically correct because it has the moon landing? Fucking idiot your idea of a movie removes all art and relies strictly on fact? Truth is it "HAS TO BE" is bullshit its a movie I repeat a movie PS People use caps when there argument is lacking so before you start throwing stones with lack of intelligence in a comment I suppose you take a look in the damn mirror... "period" haha jackass
TheMartinLane 5 months ago
@dramatish Oh So obviously transformers 3 has to be historically correct because it has the moon landing? Fucking idiot your idea of a movie removes all art and relies strictly on fact? Truth is it "HAS TO BE" is bullshit its a movie I repeat a movie PS People use caps when there argument is lacking so before you start throwing stones with lack of intelligence in a comment I suppose you take a look in the damn mirror... "period" haha jackass
TheMartinLane 5 months ago
@TheMartinLane It needs to be somewhat accurate, esp. if it's based in a time period that is a historically painful part of history. A movie about landing on the moon obviously has no need to be historically or scientifically accurate. The event in the movie doesn't have to tell Armstrong's story; it can be a fictional story of a dog orbitign the moon but Black ppl, for the most part aren't going to wink at talented ppl out to make a buck who don't find their history worth telling accurately.
ladyEulaelie 4 months ago
THIS MOVIE IS FOR WHITE WOMEN & HOUSE NI--AS!!!!
R1D2S3 5 months ago
@R1D2S3 did you see the movie ?
dramatish 5 months ago
@dramatish NO!...NOT GONER!!!
R1D2S3 5 months ago
@R1D2S3 so your comment doenst even matter ..what kind of ignorant shit is that ..watch the movie if you dont like then you can critique, otherwise its just bullshit...sorry
dramatish 5 months ago
@dramatish yes it does matter...I'm not going to give my money to this happy nigga bullshit no more if I don't want to...fu-k Ho-llywood...They want give a black director money to make a real movie about slavery,but they let a white director like Quentin Tarantino to do one...Now why is that?
R1D2S3 5 months ago
@R1D2S3 you should do some research first before you comment.django unleashed is not about slavery but more a love-story playing at the time of slavery
dramatish 5 months ago
@MizAlexandria well thank you for you coherent response but I just find how people are disliking it solely on histoical inaccurey is profoundly stupid when nobody should relie on movies for a grounded relizism last time I checked Titanic was a wildly loved movie while most of it was fabricated without basis.. Like it dislike it I haven't even seen the movie I just find this line of critisism dumb
TheMartinLane 5 months ago
What is it with Christy Lemire and cardigans? Yearround!
liza617 5 months ago
Also, Alonso's review is totally crap. Even though I thought the movie would end multiple times, I was pleasantly surprised when it continued. The threat of writing down the lives of black women was dealt with, albeit in a manner some will consider unrealistic, by giving the "queeen bee" an incentive to spread the notion that the books based on another town (and the black servants don't go around telling whites that they wrote the book).
WpgRagReview 5 months ago
@WpgRagReview I agree with you!
witch26071 5 months ago
kick out the redhead. she has no clue. the help is a horrible white guilt disney version of history.
baumbart99 6 months ago
@baumbart99 Tell me, do you think throwing a bunch of hissy fit labels at someone is anything near a friggin argument? The "redhead" acknowledged that the film "toned down" some of the uglier parts of 1960s Deep South and that charaacter-dialogue was the primary reason to like it.
WpgRagReview 5 months ago
I usually agree with pov this guy is coming from, just not this time.
chefawkes 6 months ago
Dammit I want a movie where the non-white is the hero/main character guess it won't happen in my lifetime
Antichrys 6 months ago
@Antichrys Plenty of blackexploitation movies for you to watch.
SuperBenzid 6 months ago
@Antichrys Black Dynamite my friend, Black Dynamite
RetGamingTV 6 months ago
@RetGamingTV saw the trailer...i may just watch the whole thing :-)
Antichrys 6 months ago
naggers nagging... what else is new?
shadowninjaboy 6 months ago
i agree with alonso...
painintheauss 6 months ago 2
where did ben go?
The420blaze69 6 months ago
Stupid ass movie. Same old cliche story about Negros struggling in the racist south. Boo! Conan and Fright Night are better movies and shouldve taken the number one spot.
Amoraklin2 6 months ago
@Amoraklin2 but the help and conan are like apples and oranges
The420blaze69 6 months ago
I just figured out why ppl think Alonso's such a queen.
babyfran05 6 months ago
I agree... the Help its a great Sci-fi movie.
Villesanti 6 months ago
Anyone else wish they would revisit already released movies to give us their opinions? It may end up encouraging people to watch movies they missed out on... I'm interested to hear their take on Blade Runner, Fight Club, Memento, V for Vendetta, and I, Robot.
YuanMizzle 6 months ago
So.... what i got out of this is, this movie is a total chick-flick. As well as if you think more logically than emotionally you won't buy it.
70bpmcamire 6 months ago
people should watch this movie when they are shitting ! it will fall easier
Sheeeeeenful 6 months ago
Go Alonso
yayazein222 6 months ago 16
viola has the lead role
cameronstar14 6 months ago
please review fright night?
mrodrig94 6 months ago
I'm with Alonso, and I'm glad he had the guts to speak his mind.
The64v 6 months ago 2
I hope hes not dissing Schiendlier's List
theclashroc28 6 months ago 2
Alonzo its fiction! Fucking fiction not a documentary all you motherfuckers who are treating it like a documentary should go fuck themselves I am talking to you @missamericanpie1 @modap3000 @healthypig1423
TheMartinLane 6 months ago
@TheMartinLane Just because its fiction doesn't mean that people have to some how like it. For a drama (fiction) movie there still has to be believability factor and the context of the movie just wasn't realistic based on the time period.
MizAlexandria 6 months ago
@TheMartinLane yeah but movie tried to be in a historical correct context ..so even if the characters are fiction it still has to be realistic
dramatish 5 months ago
I dunno Alonzo its hard to take you too seriously after giving this movie a 4.5 and the glee movie 8.5. Especially after admitting this movie had very good acting while the glee movie was missing one of its best characters.
fortyone0 6 months ago
Alonzo is the truth. He speaks the truth. Us po negros needed us a white woman to save our day! Bullshit. Complete bullshit and a damn disgrace.
missamericanpie1 6 months ago 12
Hated the book. Hated the movie. Feel-good, po negro white movie of the year. I hated it! As a black woman, I am appalled.
missamericanpie1 6 months ago 5
@missamericanpie1 what a surprise.
MultiSnyderman 6 months ago
The fat guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
whateverdv 6 months ago
RESPECT ALONSO. A poor film. I was disgusted by the lack of emphasis of the danger faced by these women. Not only did they face losing their livelihoods but their lives. The ease which the black women participated in the scheme with a "damn the consequences" attitude misrepresents the time and the place (Mississippi) this film supposed took place.The black women in this film will of course be rewarded by the Academy for participating in this farce. SMH
henchman696 6 months ago 2
that dude in the middle is the fucking truth
DruggyP 6 months ago 2
Most of the people who are bashing this film havn't even seen it or read the book, which is pissing me off. Only a complete ignorent tool does that.
thehoffmanapprentice 6 months ago
I hate to hear critics complain about movies being long. 2 hours and 15 mins isn't long.
thehobbsguy 6 months ago
This movie sounds like another fairytale
FLASHBLAK 6 months ago 2
White feel-good movie of the year...The Help.
Last year...Precious
Year before...The Blindside
modap3000 6 months ago 7
@modap3000 It can't be --->A<--- feel good movie? Why does it have to be a WHITE feel good movie, it's about a person helping another.
madax132 6 months ago
@madax132 Why would anyone who isn't white feel good about this movie? Who feels good watching how their ancestors had nothing and were too helpless to change it (which isn't true)? That they needed a some white chick to fight for them (when in actuality, white women didn't do shit).
urkelette 4 months ago
@urkelette A person who sees a person helping another person instead of a white women helping a black person. Also "white women didn't do shit" is a pretty big generalization considering that white women as well as men marched in civil rights and participated in the underground railroad. You saying all whites at the time were bad people is like me saying that all black people are thieves and equally ridiculous. Before you take that last part out of context I obviously don't think that it's a
madax132 4 months ago
@madax132 White women (and white people in general) are waaaaaaay overrepresented in movies and history books in the fight for african-american freedom (incuding their part in the underground railroad). This re-written history is responsible for credit being removed from the rightful people who died for the cause. If you can't see why a perpetuation of that lie doesn't make people feel good, thats your fault.
urkelette 4 months ago
@urkelette What examples do you have as evidence that whites are over represented in history books in civil rights? You're taking a film too seriously, it's meant to be a feel good story not re write history. This is showing a story about a person who has nothing to gain doing what's right. Do you think that saving private ryan was arguing that world war 2 was centered around private ryan?
madax132 4 months ago
@madax132 I gave you an example-white involvement in the underground railroad is overrepresented in...well, any book illustrating more white abolitionists than black (because there were far more black abolitionists). Media affects how people perceive each other, which is why I'm taking this seriously. I'm not asking you to stop feeling good (though yeah, you should) I'm explaining why movies like this aren't going to leave African Americans jumping for joy.
urkelette 4 months ago
@urkelette You're an idiot, first of all you haven't seen the movie. You need to give an actual example of the thing you say is happening in popular culture, you can't just say it's there because it is. If you actually say the movie you'd know that the black characters are the leads and are self sufficient and well realized. If you can't even give a few examples then you're only trying to play the victim which you are, watch the fucking movie before you criticize it and stop being an idiot.
madax132 4 months ago
@madax132 Um, what makes you think I haven't seen the movie? If you want me to hold you hand through this, you can watch the overgeneralization of white involvement in movies like roots, or literally any history book you'd find in a midwestern school district. It also looks like you're assuming what my race is here, so who is the racist, now? Whatever, I'm talking to a person who doesn't particularly care about facts, anyway.
urkelette 4 months ago
@urkelette You haven't seen the movie because you don't understand that the black people in it are the main characters and are fleshed out as well as self sufficient. You're trying to make a problem that isn't there, there are no text books currently out or movies that claim whites played a larger part than they did in civil rights. You're name is Urkelette, steve Urkel is a famous black character and the suffix elette would indicate female. If you aren't a black female get a new user name.
madax132 4 months ago
@urkelette it's really pretty sad that you don't see why I think it was a feel good movie, it's about a person helping another, I DON'T CARE WHAT THE SKIN COLOR OF THE PERSON IS, THERE I SPELLED IT OUT FOR YOU. That was the point I was trying to get across but you're such a dense racist idiot that you couldn't see it.
madax132 4 months ago
@urkelette comparison showing how ridiculous you're narrow sighted way of thinking is right now.
madax132 4 months ago
@madax132 If you think reality is ridiculous, thats your opinion. It would also explain why you need inaccurate movies to 'feel good'.
urkelette 4 months ago
@modap3000 precious was not a white feel good movie.
MultiSnyderman 6 months ago
This movie is garbage. It is a movie that can only possibly be enjoyed by people so far detached from the realities of that time period. Matt nailed it.
DaniB0626 6 months ago 2
Thank god Alonso was there to say what any intelligent non-racist person who saw this movie was thinking.
Healthypig1423 6 months ago 2
@Healthypig1423 Personally I think Alonso ate the shit pie that was in the movie and now he's pissed off about it. lol
ChameleonLost88 6 months ago
The book and movie certainly didn't portray Skeeter as the white savior. I honestly don't know what movie Alonso watched if that's what he thinks. The black characters are the leads--they're completely self-sufficient, well-realized, and have goals & dreams of their own. In the book, it's very clear the amount of danger the maids were in. Perhaps that wasn't as clear in the movie, but I still think Alonso's criticisms were largely unfounded. I think he went in to the movie with judgements
bookworm3583 6 months ago 13
@bookworm3583 Well he was the one who said that green lantern was better than Thor
MultiSnyderman 6 months ago
@bookworm3583 Everybody has judgements, buddy. We're human beings, not robots. As a critic, he'll never admit to it, but it's true.
RDBeatnik 6 months ago
michelle obama screened this garbage at the white house ! what a moron ! i thought she was educated
Sheeeeeenful 6 months ago
One more thing, wonder what Malcolm X would have thought about these types of movies.
executioner67 6 months ago 3
What's the next movie gonna be about? MLK was is secret white man who had dark make up on...
executioner67 6 months ago
Short hair lady is a terrible reviewer, absolutely the weak link.
ThomYorkesHead 6 months ago 2
VERY INTERESTING STATEMENT FROM THE BLACK WOMEN HISTORIANS ASSOCIATION : bit.ly / nS9syu. Tell me what you think about it !
Sheeeeeenful 6 months ago
Haven't watched the clip yet but let me guess.... White woman saves black people.
00maharum00ma 6 months ago
watched it today... this movie sucked. go watch planet of the apes... i watched it with super low expectations. ironically very good.
shadowninjaboy 6 months ago
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UglyBetty70 6 months ago
Fauver Gregg Liuzzo look her up..
UglyBetty70 6 months ago
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UglyBetty70 6 months ago
I love u christy. Yumyumyummmmmmm
petefentonp 6 months ago
Alonso simply cannot allow the movie to be the self-contained reality that it intends to be. The movie and presumably the book, is about a small town, it involves specific people -- it's not unlike tons of stories (Field of Dreams springs to mind) that could never have happened, but the author has invented a tale. Live with it, deal with it, but PLEASE quit belly-aching about it. Jeez.
nicholas9999 6 months ago
Only people who don't know the history and realities of those times would tolerate this film. "Hilarity ensues..."? In the Deep South KKK Jim Crow cross burning lynching Mississippi?
tanmack 6 months ago 43
From the ratings I can assume this is a chick flick.
dwalden74 6 months ago
It was an excellent interview in the sense that I thoroughly understand everyone's point of view.
I criticized Alonzo for (repeatedly) monopolizing airtime in previous interviews. I appreciate that he afforded enough time to opinions contrary to his in this interview so that I could come away from it with a broader perspective.
That said, in the gradient between his opinion and Christy's and Grae's, mine is probably closer to his this time (although not quite to the same extent of disbelief).
makosharkesq 6 months ago
Alonso was totally white...i mean right. Two words to describe this movie, white guilt. Just like Avatar, the great white hero has to come and save the minorities. Gag me with a spoon.
yaysweetcherryjam 6 months ago
I don't know any african americans, though I do know some black people.
CenkIsAdorable 6 months ago
Christy = Blonde MiLF!!!
stefanrozman 6 months ago
ALSONO IS WRONG! I can't believe their are so much uneducated, ignorant people here! Why is it so wrong that a WHITE person helped black people find empowerment? How would this story make any sense if a black women published the book? Who would publish it? How would be have been educated? Maids WERE NOT educated back then, ONLY Aibleen could write (if you read the book you would know!). SCHINDLER'S LIST WAS BASED A FCUKING TRUE STORY! DO YOU REALLY THINK THE JEWS WERE NOT SAVED BY OTHER RACES?
KpopManiacSFL 6 months ago
Correction: The jews ran the civil rights movement.
immuntocrap2 6 months ago
@immuntocrap2 Many jewish and white men and women helped blacks achieve rights and freedom! SOME EVEN DIED WITH THEM! I don't understand why people can not comprehend this! I am black and I don't feel ashamed that another race helped mine! ALL IMPOVERISHED AND CONTROLLED GROUP NEEDED HELP FROM AN OUTSIDER! The little guy never wins unless a big guy helps lead the way!
KpopManiacSFL 6 months ago
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Mack7mle 6 months ago
@KpopManiacSFL you're not black.....
Mack7mle 6 months ago
@immuntocrap2 Yeah ! the jews run everything, i'm pretty sure the next step of the antisemitic group that see everything trough the prism of a jewish conspiracy will be to say that the jews actually run GOD !
Sheeeeeenful 6 months ago
@Sheeeeeenful: If I'm anti-semitic for saying that the Jews ran the Civil Rights 'Movement' (which is actually true you dummy), does that mean that you're anti-black by saying that the blacks did?
immuntocrap2 6 months ago
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dramatish 5 months ago
Alonso is on point, I think I found a new film critic. BTW FUCK THE HELP MOVIE!!!
rlazarr 6 months ago 2
And alonso is totally right. I saw the blind side and I thought it was painful to watch and it looks like this movie is going for the same thing.
547falcons 6 months ago
@dameagatha100 your an idiot. There really is a book called "the help" but the book is a work of fiction you moron. Of course this didn't really happen.
547falcons 6 months ago
Gotta love how the 2 white ladies (one of them Lemire, one of the worst critics out there) see no problem with getting another "white savior" movie which Hollywood loves making all the time.
This is a cliche that greatly insults nonwhites as it's done again and again. Hollywood loves movies that involves a white lead that "saves" nonwhites that otherwise couldn't do it themselves. It happens all the time and I am sick of it. Recent examples are The Blind Side and even James Cameron's Avatar.
DaRunningMan 6 months ago 4
You idiot! This whole movie is a true story there is really a book about a called the Help and all this really happened in Jackson Missipi! Idiot Alonso!
dameagatha100 6 months ago
Emma Stone looks good with curly hair
captcrais101 6 months ago
Alonso SUCKS!!!! This movie represents how one person can think ahead and not be stupid enough to think african americans are lower that them and how one person can make a differance.
dameagatha100 6 months ago
@dameagatha100 Moron !
Kilzoful 6 months ago
Schindler's List was based on true events and even if it wasn't to even suggest that people relate to it only because of the non-minority hero is just plain stupid.
MrIStillDontCare 6 months ago
i don't know. I'm pretty sensitive and sometimes suspicious about plots where a white person is helping a group or community of minorities who are in a tough spot. Think about thouse movies with the white teacher in the ghetto. However, the book doesn't feel that way at all. The heroines are "the help"; the maids are putting themselves in danger big time. Plus, their situation was so oppressing that they needed a white person with access to a platform for their stories.
papasalas 6 months ago
Alonso is the voice of reason. Thank you!
ashl905 6 months ago 2
To be Fair Schlindler was a real man.
flake452 6 months ago
Going to see this tonight! Read the book, which was amazing! Since I haven't seen the movie yet, I can't say if Alonso is just missing it... but in the book, there was a fine undertone of danger throughout... you were always worried about what could happen to these women. I hope they capture that in the movie. It sounds like they may have from other reviews.
laurenmcintyre 6 months ago
Not seeing it, thats for sure
Oli3TB76 6 months ago
Skeeter: Hey black folks, honk honk!
SenorFancyPants87 6 months ago
YAY Alonso!!!!!! Agree 100%
wholehistory 6 months ago
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you can't make a safe, sort of a "grand public" movie about the civil rights era. This movie does it which intrinsically makes it a failure
Sheeeeeenful 6 months ago
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Sheeeeeenful 6 months ago
i'm pretty sure if in a movie a guy was the champion of the feminist movement many women would find it outrageous
captainlaz1 6 months ago 4
@captainlaz1
That's a weird analogy since this movies does not depict a white women as the champion of the civil rights movement at all. Watch the movie or read the book, then you can criticize it.
thehoffmanapprentice 6 months ago
If you want to know anything that is an accurate depiction of the terrible things that happened during that time. You should rather see Malcolm X. I'm pretty sure this movie is going to draw dithyramb from everywhere and have a great exposure and publicity but the movie that i mentionned Malcolm X never drew any significant attention from the media. "The Help" it's called, rather ironic. When white people helped the movement they were killed like like andrew goodman and james chaney.
Kilzoful 6 months ago
Go Alonso
Kilzoful 6 months ago
This movie is disgusting.It only serve the purpose of making white people feeling good about the dreadful act commited in the civil right era.It is not even historically accurate,nearly 3500 African Americans were lynched in the United States between 1882 and 1968 (conservative estimates) i'm sure they make no mention of that in the movie.It is dangerous to make that kind of movie because it make people question the authenticity of the rage of the civil right movement. This movie is a disgace.
Kilzoful 6 months ago 3
"nearly 3500 African Americans were lynched in the United States between 1882 and 1968 (conservative estimates) i'm sure they make no mention of that in the movie"
Why would they? The movie isn't about that.
"It is dangerous to make that kind of movie because it make people question the authenticity of the rage of the civil right movement."
So all movies about the civil rights movement have to be super serious and depict white people as evil. They can't have a light film about it?
thehoffmanapprentice 6 months ago
@thehoffmanapprentice Would you make light 9/11? How about the holocaust? These are time periods when people suffered. To make light of it would be like spitting on the graves of every soul lost during it. While I understand where you are coming from, you have to have respect for them. It's not a matter of making them whites evil, even though what was done by them during that time period is far from justifiable. It's a matter of showing it for what it was. History should never be sugar-coated.
LadyOfMyth 6 months ago
@LadyOfMyth i couldn't have said it better
Kilzoful 6 months ago
@thehoffmanapprentice
Even if the movie isn't about creating the most accurate depiction of what actually happened during that time, it's very important to establish accurate context of the times...
It's not about making white people look evil, it's about saying what happened
you can't have a "light" film about holocaust, slavery, (not that i'm making any kind of competition of dreadfulness between these things). Because they are not light subjects....
Kilzoful 6 months ago
@Kilzoful THIS IS NOT ABOUT SLAVERY! It is about the HELP! THE HELP! In that time period many black people were working to raise their families, just because many black Americans were involved in civil rights DOES NOT mean ALL blacks were willing to leave their job and join in all at once or at all! This movie is only for the help and shows how far we have come from those days. It's a movie based about REAL people and REAL LIFE! Not everyone was as brave as Martin Luther King!~
KpopManiacSFL 6 months ago
@Kilzoful Why would I feel good or bad about something that has nothing to do with me? I don't have any family who committed violence against black people. I don't know anyone who did and I certainly haven't. How does this movie belittle the civil rights movement? It shows plenty of bad white people but chooses to show the good as well as contrary to your popular opinion there were many whites with nothing to gain that were beaten and even killed in civil rights.
madax132 6 months ago
@madax132 The first part of your answer is actually a big cliché that many people use (generally conservative) to deligitimize the consequences of that period : affirmative action in particular. Maybe you didn't do anything wrong but your ancestors did and you should pay the price of that. Like our children would have to pay the price of our generation's inaction towards global warning maybe it's unfair but that's how it works.
Kilzoful 6 months ago
@Kilzoful Sorry but No one I knew owned slaves and all of my family fought on the north side of the civil war. I'm a liberal but like I said I don't feel bad for something I didn't do and I'd seriously slap the shit out of you for saying my family has done anything in the past to the effect of owning slaves or violence against black people. There are racists like you on one side and white supremacists on the other and at this rate no one is going to let the past be the past and move on.
madax132 6 months ago
@madax132 you are not direcly addressing my argument, you're making the same exact point as before which leads me to believe that you have been defeated.
Ohhh i was wating for that charge: racist. I rest y case, that's what people treat you of when they don't have anything else to say
Kilzoful 6 months ago
@Kilzoful Um. . no, you didn't respond to my argument whatsoever. All you said it that because I'm the same skin color as some people who did something to your family in past generations that I should feel guilty because of my skin color. SO that's racist but no the reason I called you racist was because you made a blanket statement about the entire white race when it comes to movies. You're a small minded man who can't see past color, good day sir.
madax132 6 months ago
@madax132 As for the second part as somebody said earlier you can't make a feel good, safe movie about the civil right era. it akes it intrinsicaly a failure and i mentionned andrew goodman and james chaney, that's what happened to white people who helped, they were killed.
Kilzoful 6 months ago
"As for the second part as somebody said earlier you can't make a feel good, safe movie about C.R era."I assume you were refuring to me, anyway I wasn't going to respond but I just can't help it now. Anyway to make a safe feel good movie about the MLK assasination, or bombings at black churches is wrong. However there is nothing wrong about making a light movie on the subject manner of racism, and having it take place during the C.R. time period. Its been done before, by "Hairspare" with no prob
thehoffmanapprentice 6 months ago
@Kilzoful First off the events in the movie never happend, this is fictional, two just ctfu, we are tired of your noobish comments
MultiSnyderman 6 months ago
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Sheeeeeenful 6 months ago
@MultiSnyderman stfu you're a moron
Kilzoful 6 months ago
@Kilzoful u mad bro?
MultiSnyderman 6 months ago
I totally agree with Alonso, though he should be reminded that Schindler's List was based on real life events :\
moccamonster 6 months ago
Wow!! Did I just agree with Alonso?
scifiwritir1 6 months ago
alonso is 100% RIGHT. it's patronizing
Sheeeeeenful 6 months ago
these 3 work well together, good combo!
0508Gee 6 months ago
We all love you Alonso. You are honest and real.
bigdickbitchify 6 months ago
alonso is a chauvinist
unprofessionalvids 6 months ago
alonso is just being a dick in this one
unprofessionalvids 6 months ago
White people "didn't help in the civil rights movement sometimes." Many whites joined the Freedom Riders into the South. Catholic Priests organized and marched with Civil Rights leaders, and JFK took huge political risk by putting Federal troops into the South.
dmaradona10 6 months ago
@dmaradona10 sorry but black people didnt overcome that era because of white peole but despite white people. and yes there were occasionally white people who helped but they were no factor considering the big picture of struggle african americans went through
LETS JUST BE REAL FOR A MINUTE.
AFRICAN AMERICANS FOUGHT FOR THEIR OWN RIGHTS...point blank period
dramatish 6 months ago
@dramatish I didn't say black people overcame because of white people. The word "occasionally" that you use underscores the fact that whites participated in and risked life and limb for blacks in the South to over come segregation. This diminishment is a curious re-write of Civil Rights history.
dmaradona10 6 months ago
@dmaradona10 why diminishment.THATS THE REALITY.let me put this way: even with not one single white helping, the course of the history wouldnt have changed.it was irrelevant for the big picture.THATS A FACT
so why hollywood has always HAS to make those movies when it was by faaaaaaaaaaaar not the norm.
considering how little that was its just unproportionally how many movies are about some whites helping some minorities in contraste to minorities helpng themself.
just being real
dramatish 6 months ago
@dramatish Right...no white people had a role in integration. LBJ a Texan, signing the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Act of 1965, didn't effect the course of history. If one single white person didn't help? Your views are obviously slanted You can keep stating that white people's actions didn't play are role in the Civil Rights movement, however, that's not the true history of the Civil Rights movement. Most Hollywood films are always the standard Remember the Titans type storyline.
dmaradona10 6 months ago
@dmaradona10 HAHAHA YOU ARE MAKING ME LAUGH.. white people were and still are the etablishment . they were not the reason for the change but BECAUSE OF THEIR POSITION HAD TO SIGN DOCUMENTS IN FAVOR OF BLACK PEOPLE ( which some did again their own beliefs)
they did so becausE at the end of the day the pressure black civil right movement put on society was too big.THEY MADE SOCIETY CHANGE.SOCIETY DIDNT CHANGE by ITSLEF:::FACT
maybe nothing would have change till this days if they did not fight:
dramatish 6 months ago