What a thrill to come across this clip. To see Wieland Wagner, Bohm, Windgassen, Neidlinger, the lamented Erwin Wohlfahrt, et. al. in rehearsal--what a gift, what a treasure! It's like finding the Titanic. Thank you, and God bless NHK!
It's interesting that Windgassen is such an effective Loge, since he's mostly associated with Siegfried, but its more common for the tenor who sings Mime to double as Loge, and Wagner goes out of his way to point out the contrast between Siegfried and Mime later in the cycle. It just shows what an interesting character Loge is and how many directions you can go with him, IMO.
WHERE oh where did you get this from? I'm writing a thesis on Wagner productions and I'm really interested in Wieland's 1951 Ring (especially Rheingold)... do you have anything on that?
Do you have a version with German or English subtitles, as the words are quite difficult to make out?
Thank you so much for this priceless window into music-art history. This is jawdropping footage of some of the greatest Wagnerians of all time!
WIndgassen's intelligent Loge is the standard (for me, anyway) - and especially that moment, when he sings about his failed quest to find one being who was willing to renounce love - immortal art!
Is there more of this museum quality film? Again thank you for making this available.
Between timings 00.05 and 1.45 or so we have a very good view of the great Finnish bass Martti Talvela towards the back of the room. Wonderful archive material!
@ric55 Yes, great to have a glimpse of MT! I think we can only see him briefly from 0:35-0:45 though, at the back in the light-coloured jacket. The guy in the dark jacket, with hammer, is (I think) Gerd Nienstedt as Donner. Martti was singing Fasolt for the first time. (There's another video of this rehearsal on youtube now which shows them a bit more clearly).
tahileki-thanks for the information about Gerd Nienstedt. I didn't realise it was him. I did have access to a book listing all performers and performances in Bayreuth from 1951 up to 1969-I often borrowed it and more or less read the print off the pages-but my library has either lost it or sold it!
This is SO amazing: when Mr. Windgassen sings near the piano, I can't see any emotions in his face, however I know he's an outstanding actor. But when I close my eyes, I have a picture of fantastic Loge with all feelings in his monologue. All acting is in voice, because it's not a stage performance and acting with face and body isn't needed - wow, that's REAL art without any cheap-show behaviour! And we can see also wonderful direction of Wieland Wagner, a descendant worthy Richard.
What a thrill to come across this clip. To see Wieland Wagner, Bohm, Windgassen, Neidlinger, the lamented Erwin Wohlfahrt, et. al. in rehearsal--what a gift, what a treasure! It's like finding the Titanic. Thank you, and God bless NHK!
MrMattsboy 7 months ago
Interesting material. Never seen this before...
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Greetings,
Rolf
Historical classical recordings
European Archive, Paris
EuropeanArchive 3 years ago
It's interesting that Windgassen is such an effective Loge, since he's mostly associated with Siegfried, but its more common for the tenor who sings Mime to double as Loge, and Wagner goes out of his way to point out the contrast between Siegfried and Mime later in the cycle. It just shows what an interesting character Loge is and how many directions you can go with him, IMO.
ianw115 3 years ago
WHERE oh where did you get this from? I'm writing a thesis on Wagner productions and I'm really interested in Wieland's 1951 Ring (especially Rheingold)... do you have anything on that?
Do you have a version with German or English subtitles, as the words are quite difficult to make out?
Thankyou so much!
Ivorykeys83 3 years ago
@Ivorykeys83
This must be from NHK, the suberb Japanese TV broadcasting company. Terrific material, thanks for posting it on Youtube.
tokyoisfun 1 year ago
Thank you so much for this priceless window into music-art history. This is jawdropping footage of some of the greatest Wagnerians of all time!
WIndgassen's intelligent Loge is the standard (for me, anyway) - and especially that moment, when he sings about his failed quest to find one being who was willing to renounce love - immortal art!
Is there more of this museum quality film? Again thank you for making this available.
jkircher314 3 years ago
Wow, ich hätte nicht gedacht, dass ich Gustav Neidlinger mal sehe. Danke!
Skukkuk 3 years ago
Between timings 00.05 and 1.45 or so we have a very good view of the great Finnish bass Martti Talvela towards the back of the room. Wonderful archive material!
ric55 3 years ago 2
Thanks for spotting Talvela. You're so right - this is fantastic archive material.
jkircher314 3 years ago
@ric55 Yes, great to have a glimpse of MT! I think we can only see him briefly from 0:35-0:45 though, at the back in the light-coloured jacket. The guy in the dark jacket, with hammer, is (I think) Gerd Nienstedt as Donner. Martti was singing Fasolt for the first time. (There's another video of this rehearsal on youtube now which shows them a bit more clearly).
tahileki 2 years ago
tahileki-thanks for the information about Gerd Nienstedt. I didn't realise it was him. I did have access to a book listing all performers and performances in Bayreuth from 1951 up to 1969-I often borrowed it and more or less read the print off the pages-but my library has either lost it or sold it!
ric55 2 years ago
@ric55 you're very welcome - and sorry about your library, how could they??! Kind regards, thlk.
tahileki 2 years ago
This is SO amazing: when Mr. Windgassen sings near the piano, I can't see any emotions in his face, however I know he's an outstanding actor. But when I close my eyes, I have a picture of fantastic Loge with all feelings in his monologue. All acting is in voice, because it's not a stage performance and acting with face and body isn't needed - wow, that's REAL art without any cheap-show behaviour! And we can see also wonderful direction of Wieland Wagner, a descendant worthy Richard.
Manya1759 3 years ago 2
intéressant de voir Wieland Wagner faire sa mise en scène... bien qu'en fait on ne voit pas grand chose.
Windgassen chante faux à un moment ?
document chaotique et légèrement glaçant quand même : pas de nostalgie... dp
villebaston 4 years ago
An extraordinary document! Thanks so much for this posting, and please, if you have more...
mdicanio 4 years ago 3
INCREIBLE!!!!
xyvp 4 years ago 2